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  • "Interesting," that's the best he can come up with? Thomas Jefferson's spiritual descendant is educating him on public fucking television and "interesting" is all this douchenozzle has to say...

    That's like listening to Darwin and going "hmmmmmmm well I've never heard any of that stuff before, nevermind the fact that it's totally consistent with reality..."

  • You can tell Cenk is seething with hate, he was itching for ron paul to slip up so he could make a fool of him.

  • I remember seeing this talking head saying Ron Paul is a racist, I guess he loses his balls when standing before the man!

  • this little bitch talked so much shit about Ron Paul he is a disgrace to the human race.

  • 1:03 "So" in unison sounds really creepy.

  • Now Cenk.. They were indeed complaining about their benefits being cut, BUT WHY ARE THEY BEING CUT??? CAUSE WE'RE BANKRUPT, DUH

  • YES Cenk, because YOU define what is right and wrong

  • well, at least we dont have to see the young turk clips to our right everytime we watch a video. hope the money is worth your soul coward

  • "Look at this poll Ron: people are stupid and believe they can get something without paying for it, how can you say that is wrong?"

  • So this is Cenk Uygur or whatever? what a fool, every time I open a video that starts off with one of his ten minute long commentaries I immediately close it back up.

  • The idiot interviewer keeps saying " I hear you , I hear you " as he continues to interrupt Dr. Paul ! Media fail once again !

  • All these programs are going to go away anyway!! We cant afford them! Why not end them and put all that money back into out economy before the food riots that we must know are co

  • I love this man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @NeverForget1776

    I couldn't have said it better myself.

  • Cenks POLL is as reliable as a martian made car. If I put out a poll asking if CUTS to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid Were Acceptable, Somewhat Acceptable or Unacceptable then no matter what I could use those numbers to infer that these are teh things people are most against cutting.

    Hey CENK - How about listing the details of the POLL or would that blow the scam?

  • Young people are willing to opt out? To care for themselves?? Oh come on, Paul. I like you - but even you can see the cynisim of THAT argument. Of COURSE college kids are willing to opt out (more money for more partying, electronic gadgets, cool sneakers, etc). And of course theyre willing to take care of themselves. Theyre healthy - age isn't taking its toll yet, and the youth are notorious for brashness and not preparing for the future! But when they become disabled, AARP will look good

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  • Well, I do like MOST everything Ron Paul says - I agree that we have a serious economic problem. That problem was caused by the dismantling of our productivity and centralization of our economy (a few big stores, a few big farms), coupled with empire building (preemptive wars, or "picking fights"). If we have to choose our priorities, caring for (OUR) people (welfare) is more important than killing people (empire building). Keep our troops here to protect our borders. Thats enough.

  • Am a Ron Paul fan and will vote for him but if the Republicans wont let him Run Agianst Obama & Trust me Obama will Win 100% since Republicans dont have anyone else to beat Obama only Ron Paul would beat Obama in 2012 .... But we all now what will happen so 4 more years of Obama i will Blame the Republicans For this

  • Im still trying to figure out just what we are supposed to do to ensure that the elderly and disabled dont end up out in the street. Not everyone has a family - or if they do, a family financially capable - of caring for them. Shall we send our elderly, orphaned, and disabled out into the woods to be eaten by wolves once they are no longer capable of being "productive (workers)" members of our society? Just what do those of you who advocate for the dismantling of our social programs suggest?

  • @MJ12AgentG In Ron Paul's world if you're poor you die, people tell your grandparents the free rid is over. if they can't afford to retire they should work till they die....!

  • Cenk is a weasel for trying to demonize Ron Paul because he is honest enough to admit we're broke.

    Get over it Cenk. Big brother is not able to take care of you from cradle to grave after all. If you were an American and not a Turk, you'd know that it's NOT the American way anyway. This country was founded on low taxes, limited govt, and self-responsibility. Not socialist entitlement programs. Grow up TYT.

  • @MrDeppness Who is broke? Is the one percent of the population that owns more than everyone combined or however that statistic goes, who control all the politicians with their lobbyists broke? You know the ones who have gotten rich largely by STEALING from the rest of us in ways such as launching unjust wars that are publicly funded? Are they broke? No, the 'we' who is broke is the poor and middle class who are constantly getting fucked and Ron Paul isn't one of them.

  • @dubified89 Your comment is ignorant on so many levels. How do I fit this in under 500 characters?

    No, Ron Paul isn't broke but does he have to be to stand up for what's right? Look at Cenk. He's getting rich. Does that mean he doesn't care anymore? Are we really that simple?

    The fact is socialist programs are designed to pander to left-leaning humanitarians, but they can't be paid for without printing or borrowing money. Both lead to dollar devaluation and higher prices. So they don't work!

  • @MrDeppness idk you could be right but I thought Cenk's questions were a valid vetting of Ron Paul's ideas.

    Ron Paul 2012!

  • @Danlovesmakinvids Cenk has a lot of growing up to do. He still trusts the federal government to be there for his every need. This entire education on the American role of government is flawed.

  • I went from liberal to libertarian after finding Milton Friedman and Ron Paul. Screw the left and the right.

  • @LogicalFlawDetector I used to be a Republican, now I am also a Libertarian. Screw the left and the right.

  • this guy is def a lefty, but he is reasonable for the most part. But is stuck in the rhetoric of his own party. Ron Paul is predicting a very scary, but very real future of the world crashing. Even though the elites are loving this because it helps them create a one world gov. But on the predictions of Paul, remember he has predicted all of the catastrophes that have already occured. CHeck the amazingly accurate predictions of Ron Paul.

  • Thumbs up if you think Cenk is dumbass....

    MSNBC, FOX, CNN, reality TV... basically Television is ruining American Society

  • Cenk on MSNBC?!!!!!!! WTF??? He was the anchor YoungTurks show on youtube!!!

  • Cenk sucks, he claims to be independent but all he does is lick the boots of democrats.

  • isnt that the guy from the young turks?

  • @dan11009 it is

  • I JUST WANT IT to make a point MEDICARE is exelent TO you know old people mi respects thanks to them you know our country heritage OKEY THE PROBLEM is the FUCKING DOCTORS AND MEDICAL CORPORATIONS are taking advance big time as soon they know they have medicare they want to perform all the surgery even if people dont need it my uncle had heart surgery and he does not need it tax payers pay $60.000 4 hour surgery

  • msnbc guy is a fucking jerk off.

  • im realy starting to hate that msndc guy

  • @deficithawker

    whens the last time you left the under ground cave ?

  • Why does Cenk keep saying things that make me see him as a total DOUCHEBAG?

  • Fuck Cenk.

  • People who want a free and fair society in this world want Ron Paul as president. It doesn't matter if you are Canadian or Romanian. EVERYONE in their right mind wants 1776. It doesn't matter what color your skin is as long as it's red, white and blue.

  • I do not accept medicare's ability to stick their hand in my pocket and pull out money when they want to. CUT IT! Screw the uneducated vote they showed about "people want medicare". If a thief wants to come into my house and steal things, I am not going to let him!

  • "All perplexities, confusions, and distress in America, arise, not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from a want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation"

    -Thomas Jefferson

  • @JMS13579 That's 100% correct. All the problems we face today, whether social, economic, domestic, or foreign, are directly or indirectly symptomatic of the core issue of our monetary policy over the past century. 

  • THE WORD FADE is totally out of reach of this clown. I feel bad Ron has to talk with such a moron. What is amazing is the way they yell THE PEOPLE ARE CLEARLY AGAINST AS SHOULD THEY BE but with the Death Care Bill what the people had to say went unnoticed by these clowns… over 85% against and we count the homeless and ones that cannot even think as they made up the 15% too. JUST THINK

  • What does the road fairy come take them away?

    Always bite the messenger… Ron is telling you that from this point forward the FED gets out of the roads (one example for the moron that cannot understand Ron) the LOCAL STATE and such pay for the maintenance for the old building of new roads as it used to be.

  • New Social Security would be halted in stages but that does not put those already collecting out, just freezes the new ones from entering the system. It is point by point so easy to see but they want to confuse you by saying NO MORE ROADS.

  • Unfortunately people of the US vote based on how to media portrays the candidates, that is why Ron Paul will never win. However, if the people of America were forced to listen to an u=nbiased radio show which allows every candidate to give a speech, the majority of Americans WOULD vote for Ron Paul.

    The media is doing everything to try to make Ron Paul look like a fool.

    +30 million, Canada votes for Ron Paul

  • @TheMattswish If we STAND STRONG we can force the media to be real... stop the television series THE OBAMA DISASTER 

  • @Sheeple101

    I'm with you, unfortunately I'm Canadian and won't have a say in your elections, but will continue to show my support for Ron Paul.

  • @Aislan4414

    Neocons only want 4 more years of Obama's protection

    84% Reject Official 9 11 Story

  • Remember the '07 - '08 campaign ...

    Remember what they did, remember who did it.

    nader paul kucinich gravel mckinney baldwin ventura sheehan 

    This time an entire citizen army of every stripe stands beside Dr Ron.

  • @ryanshaunkelly

    AMEN

    IN 2012 IT'S RON PAUL OR NOBODY AT ALL

  • Wrote that before I even watched the video after watching I say

    Wow Cenk is really really retarded... no for real.

  • Cenk is a retard

    Ron Paul rules

  • The Young Turk guy is on MSNBC now?

  • We should all be very concerned about what both parties are doing, and what's coming as a result. Bureaucrats & lobbyists are crawling all over DC for their own interest, and way too many citizens just don't see nor care. We tried both parties and they both failed us miserably! I'm convinced that Ron Paul is our only hope. WE are the engine of economics--government needs to get out of our way so we can produce & prosper!

  • @deficithawker ... You mean the kind of "service" that you get when you call the 1-800 # , to order a new credit card, and get the lady with the east Indian-sounding accent on the line that you can barely understand? ...(In case you didn't know it, our service jobs are being exported too. )

  • Damn, they gave Cenk an actual show on television? SO Glad I don't own a TV anymore.

  • @atomicpuppet lol I agree. Cent is a moron.

  • @atomicpuppet After he agreed to sale his soul and what lite morals he had left it was easy to get a show. The popularity of the Young Turks show gave him a spotlight and once the boys in power saw this they kned they had to buy him and bring him on baord as a "Team Player". A pad "Team Player" no less. To bad Cenk didn't have the guts to pick principal over money.

    Don't you love the way he so naturally spins it on the show. A natural politician if there ever was.

  • @deficithawker you truly are a fucking retard. 

  • Cenk was basically dumbfounded.

    Cenk: So you're saying you would phase out Medicare and Social Security?

    Ron Paul: You don't get it dumbass, the country is going to collapse and those programs will be irrelevant because people will barely be able to feed themselves.

    Cenk: So you're saying you would phase out Medicare and Social Security?

  • @SangriaStud28

    Cenk: You mean stop giving people free sh*&!

    Ron Paul: No, we will not have anything here soon, so there won't be any sh*& to give for free dumbass!

    Cenk: You mean stop giving people free sh*&!

  • Best words ever said to this liberal msnbc douchebag..."you are misleading them"

  • The problem is that since most politicians are more worried about getting reelected than actually doing good, they aren't willing to make the hard choices. Social security, medicare, medicaid, and a large military all enjoy wide public support, so no one wants to go on the record saying they need to be cut or we'll, quite simply, go bankrupt.

    Choose: a smaller welfare system now, or none in about 20 or 30 years.

  • @deficithawker ...you still didn't answer the question. Why do we have to borrow money from other countries then?... and the diferrence between the 1970's and now is the mass exportation of our manufacturing jobs that we have now.

  • Ron Paul, I hate you so much, but at least you are better than Obama, I will vote for you in 2012.

  • @deficithawker really? trillions in debt.. and really no plan to pay that debt off other than printing more money. People like you are hysterical, people in washington are hysterical. I dont agree with Ron Paul on everything but my god at least this guy speaks the truth and isnt ignorant about the state of the country unlike everyone else in capital hill.

  • @deficithawker ...if we're not bankrupt than why do we have to borrow money from other countries, and why do we have a deficit of $14 Trillion plus dollars that we can't get to stop growing?

  • If Ron Paul gets enough support to where he's any kind of threat to the establishment, he WILL get assassinated because he will NOT back down from his anti-establishment principles that he's held dear to him for decades. Do you people really think that the establishment will bow down to Ron Paul and his ideals? No, so let's get behind Ron while he's still alive and make a difference for all of humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @deficithawker How can you say that? They are trillions of dollars in debt.

  • "The dollar is an interesting question".....It's THE question!!!!

    Ron Paul 2012!

  • the banks have driven the world into debt,get a clue

  • I'm for medicare and medicaid.

    But Ron Paul's absolutely right - If inflation keeps rising and the dollar collapses, what good is medicare?

  • Argument of dude on left is designed to make people think "Omg, Hell nah, I want my medicare!!!! I want mines!!!!" While Ron Paul thinks in terms of the big picture. The media tries to appeal to individuals, like "He's is speaking personally to me!". Ron Paul thinks on a global scale, and has an understanding of things that are lost to the American Selfish. Global thinkers will agree with Ron Paul.  Selfish thinkers will fail to look at the big picture.

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  • Every news commentator spends the entire show trying to cut him off, because they know if they let him speak he will win any argument.

    He tries to argue with honesty and logic, and they resort to interruption, and try to bully him off the screen.

  • Ron Paul is the most intelligent candidate for president we've seen in this lifetime. That is exactly why he will lose. Idiots would prefer to be lead by other idiots. Dumb people don't want intelligent leaders. They want "Good ol' boys".

  • Every One Needs To Write Ron Paul on their 2012 Ballet !!!

  • Are the people listening, I mean REALLY listening to what RP is saying?? He is saying predicting that the citizens & the social structure of the USA is going to have a major "freak out" very soon if something smart is not done VERY soon. Do you people have a concept of what that really means when the dollar "tanks"? When the cheeze doodles and pepsis get low for the city folk, they are going to be eating each other. Are you ready for that? No, you're not.

  • Motherfucker u respect Ron Paul. Yeah we young ppl got his back. Ron Paul all the way

  • America the great is focusing too much on outside. We are ignoring our own problems and we need to look inward to better ourselves. We're in this for the long run. The decisions you make today have effects 30 years down the road. We cannot continue to go to war.

  • America the great is focusing too much on outside. We are ignoring our own problems and we need to look inward to better ourselves. We're in this for the long run. The decisions you make today have effects 30 years down the road. We cannot continue to go go war.

  • warfare wellfare... not fair ;) we are fucked and too few wanna admit it... i don't trust obama or trump. they are jokes... :( idk what to believe in. our government has been failing the people and we've let them do it without contest.

  • Ron Paul in not so concern as to go back to a rational progressive tax rate so we can pay for some of our spending.

  • This drizzle witted ninny shows just how dense you can be and still get a job on MSNBC.

  • is that the chubby guy from TYT?

  • @yogivivier Yes.

  • Paul/Kucinick 2012 as Independents!

  • linx they haven't ate Ron Paul yet he has been warning America about the very things that are happening right now for 20+ yrs to keep pumping money in to a failed system that you know is going to fail. seem crazy to me. why not do what Paul says take care of our old and disabled.While we are bailing out of a failed system. or we can keep doing. what we are doing. and see our old our sick and disabled living with no help what so ever ? this is not a game we are in real trouble

  • Cenk looks like a guy from the mob." Hey where's the pizza Frank?"

  • the house of representatives will eat this guy alive... hahaha cuts on military spending?!? good luck with that... I agree with some of Ron Paul's views but to phase out Social Security?? why?? they take money out of my check every 2 weeks... so that money belongs to me when i retire... There's a surplus on Social Security and thats why the govt wants it... & if they already taken it.... they probably dont want to pay it back.... dam we are screwed!!!!

  • @TheLegendaryLinx Ron Paul wants to phase it out AND get rid of your payroll tax that was originally made to pay for social security and Medicare. Then you would keep 15% of your income that normally goes to the government in taxes! You keep that money and save it (or buy gold so it holds it's value until we abolish the FED) or invest it for your retirement. Right now what you pay into the program you won't get back anyway, so you're being ripped off.

  • @TheLegendaryLinx the surplus on s.s? you mean the surplus that is now paying more to people then receiving? if you think that you will see s.s. by the time you retire (depending on your age) goodluck.

  • yes!  I havent seen him this fired up since 2008!! LETS FUCKING DO THIS RON!

  • wow I love how Ron Paul just tears into this complete moronic waste of life.

    Ron Paul for President 2012!

  • Ron Paul has regained some of his aggression I see. Awesome. Pricks like Cenk deserve it.

  • Poor old Cenk, still stuck within the left/right paradign.

  • Yo yo, Guess who the Cenk is?... Hes like the biggest fucking sellout ever! What a fUCking Dirtbag! Fuck you Cenk i hope i see you soon!

  • You fucking idiot we ARE pissed off about bankruptcy!

  • Like it or not, Ron Paul is right. We must stop spending! If you're worried about being able to survive, do what I do, follow a book called Simple Wealth by Andrew Costello. It will set you financially free.

  • @SuperSpidey25 We need to charge the OWNERS of the Fed with FRAUD and get our gold and silver back from that tiny island causing the world so much crap.

  • If we are going to fight, we need to fight for what was stolen and not some dead man that was killed. When everyone learns that BS Obama (BS is Barry Soetoro hmmm) lied and was conning the people, will they get rid of him or find excuses again?

  • A liar is a liar is a liar and we don't need more liars... VOTE RON PAUL

  • Who's the jackass who gave this idiot a show on TV?

  • @FRUNTCASTER The guy who Cenk was giving a blow job.

  • Cenk is such a cocksucker.

  • where will you get a new land after you have destroyed the land that you have now?- Until now I have had this idea that Americans are intelligent people who don’t take crap from its government, and I hoped that they will elect someone who will lead them to prosperity, but any worthy candidate who they could have elected was trashed, spitted and thrown aside, like it happened to Ron Paul who could have taken them out from the shits they are in now.such a shame...

  • This asshole is nothing but the elite mouth piece... why does Ron come on this idiots show... anything that comes out of his mouth Ron is nothing but a lie so please don't come back on his SHOWGAME...

  • I think Cenk got owned while Ron was speaking

  • How many YOUNG people took part in this poll? Of course all the OLDER people don't want them cut they believe they are "entitled" to them.

  • @sgapplebee

    When you look at your pay check, part of the money allegedly goes towards medicade, another part goes towards social security..

    fucking right they ARE entitled to them, no quotations needed there, they should get what is RIGHTFULLY theirs.

  • @thefakeyeti ,

    The ONLY THING they are RIGHTFULLY entitled to is what THEY paid into it (plus interest). Anthing more is THEFT! The average recipient gets EVERYTHING they paid into it (plus 5% interest) within the first 5 years of collecting, and they collect for 15 years on average. WHERE'S that extra 10 years of money coming from? The Tooth Fairy?

  • @sgapplebee You're stats are wrong because they don't account for the massive loss of purchasing power of those dollars they are now collecting. Nominally you're right, but count for inflation (which you have to) and people are lucky to get 70% of what they paid in. Take like my grandpa for ex. He was paying payroll tax in 1950's 60's 70's 80's. The dollar has lost over 70% of it's value since the 50's so it take a lot more dollars just to get back what he paid in.

  • @midtra52 ,

    Then please refer me to where you get your stats. When I looked into this a couple of years ago, most of the stats from different places were pretty close to each other AND had included inflation in the formula.

  • @sgapplebee Sure, search for shadowstats website and see their information on inflation. They calculate inflation the way it was done before the 1980's, when it was done legitimately. What our government and the FED calls inflation is the manipulated CPI index. The FED and government however do not manipulate the PPI index (yet). The PPI is eventually passed through to consumers so this is currently the best measure of inflation we have. You can find that it's been around 10%.

  • @sgapplebee Now with that information, understand that you can't use the CPI past the 1980's to calculate how much purchasing power your dollars lost. Now using any table of inflation rates pre 1980 and the PPI post 1980 you can calculate how much value your dollars lost. Start with 100 dollars in 1912 and subtract your purchasing power for each year. You can do this in excel. I say do this yourself so you trust the numbers, but this has been done many times and you can find it online.

  • @midtra52 ,

    The problem, as always, comes down to WHOS stats do we trust, doesn't it?

    However, one thing is for sure. The BIG WINNERS in ALL ponzi schemes are at the beginning of it; and the BIG LOSERS are ALWAYS at the end of it--which is EXACTLY what's happening with Socialist Security. There's no way in hell I will ever come EVEN CLOSE to getting out of it what I am forced to put into it.

    Are both these statements not true?

  • @sgapplebee Yep that's completely right. I'll say I don't trust the governments stats in this case. Bernie Madoff said SS is a ponzi scheme and that guy knows a ponzi scheme when he sees one. haha

  • @midtra52 ,

    Agreed :-)

  • how can this guy on msnbc be so STUPID?

    Obama is bought and sold by Wall Street

  • these news people don't seem interested in a genuine exchange or actually listening to their guest. In this case they are just trying to corner Ron Paul and get some sensational sound bite or news story. They're just looking for the 'gotcha' line... but it backfires because we see it and understand whats happening. so keep it up!

  • I support Ron Paul but,Mr Paul you can't get rid of ssi.disabled and elderly will be starving and homless.you address social security but never address how your plans will effect disabled people.

  • @solkacorot so before there was medicaid and social security olderly people were starving and homeless? i didn't think so, if people had more of there own money and weren't dependent on the govt. they could help the elderly and the elderly would have been forced to secure their own retirement while they were younger. do you really think its ok to steal money from me to support yourself when your old simply on the basis that you're old?

  • @solkacorot "you can't get rid of ssi.disabled and elderly will be starving and homless." Did you not watch the video? Paul said to TRANSITION away from them, not to throw people one the streets. Here, let me twist your words for you in return - If I ask a dum-fuk question can I make the only truly principled politician in America look bad? No, because Ron Paul is just too consistent and understood, geddit?

  • @Capnwabbit first off Mr Paul addressed Social Security and not Supplimental Security Income,secondly what i said wasn't stupid.someone needs to be there voice.and 3rd and most importantly i am a huge supporter of ron paul so don't try to get smart assed with me or come off to me like i'm anti ron paul.you are a prick buddy.

  • @solkacorot Well I aint American so I'm not aware of sublte differences between social security and supplemental security, especially when you refer to them by intial. I see that Seestu above has already given you one response, here's another - why are you such a dick as to think RP would carefully transition for one group, yet one throw another out the window? If you're a supporter you'd know he's not like that - and by the way, it's "their" voice, not "there" voice, geddit? Read a book.

  • Cenk ? Isn`t that the guy who said "Fuck Ron Paul " on his damn tv show ...?

    He`s lucky he`s even geting this interview ...

    Ron Paul is so tolerant of all kinds of idiots . may be a lttle too much at times .. in this case in particular .

  • God bless you Mr Paul Please run we need a real American in office! The lawers suck keep them out of all government,I know they screw us for the up and comeing wars, Im not leting my sons go Me and my family have done are part.I can not wait to thow you N.W.O types in jail and puting you ass holes on a pile of brush to burn!! You filth turned out to be the most dangers ass holes I cant wait to get you all and in jail. A real jail like a FED prison Like it up the ass any one. I cant wait !

  • God bless you Mr Paul Please run we need a real American in office! The lawers suck keep them out of all government,I know they screw us for the up and comeing wars, Im not leting my sons go Me and my family have done are part.I can not wait to thow you N.W.O types in jail and puting you ass holes on a pile of brush to burn!! You filth turned out to be the most dangers ass holes I cant wait to get you all and in jail. A real jail like a FED prison Like it up the ass, any one.somebodys bich

  • Ron Paul is right on target. Time for America to face reality.

  • god this turk guy is an idiot.... I hated him on you tube as well.

  • Real simple economics here: Both parties have increased spending while tax breaks for the rich were given. We had a brief respite during the nineties, but despite that Bush cut taxes for wealthy, increased spending on two unfunded wars and enacted Medicare Part D which was not funded either. Obama gets elected, and continues the wars and spending without increasing taxes. One dollar taken in, one dollar spent and vice versa. We need a social safety net, so let's raise taxes on the rich!

  • i hate that turk guy sooo much

  • When will the talking heads understand that THERE IS NO MONEY! It's not possible to honour these entitlements....NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

  • @pairtrader Well they were already paid for by the taxpayer- when you pay for your social security every year, for instance, it's supposed to come back to you later, and economists have said that social security can pay back all of its balances for 75 years.

  • Way to go Ron!!

  • You know, I'm subscribed to both this channel and the Young Turks. Both sides make good points, and they disagree- I would just like to see more civility in these comments. If we want to make real progress, we should be able to listen to the different sides and find common ground- that's real bipartisanship: not JUST compromise, but also being man enough to admit that yeah, I agree with this, it's a good idea- there's nothing wrong with the other guy supporting it too. Good for them.

  • Ron Paul is a conservative. I am a liberal. I think that Paul is too far and somewhat extreme in certain domestic issues, but I respect that he is a real conservative. If Republicans were like Ron Paul and democrats were like Dennis Kucinich, we could have real, reasonable conversations on this issue.

  • @LeonNLK The first step in fixing your problems is admitting it :) I was a liberal, now I'm libertarian.

  • @mashed107 Well... that's not what i meant, I just meant to be civil towards people who disagree so that you can be reasonable... I wasn't trying to really take a side here, that was kinda the whole point- just listen to both sides and hear the good points on either side.

  • @mashed107 ha, I was a Republican, and now I am a Libertarian.

  • @PipersGrip You're a corporatist if you buy into the Libertarian Party. I'm registered independent.

  • If Ron Paul would actually get some good media coverage he'd be fine, but the uber douches at MSN and Fox tend to slander him. One has no idea how to take care of themselves or spend money, the other loves to jesus and hates the gay.

  • @mashed107 me too!

  • @mashed107 Technically you still are a liberal. Libertarians are classical liberals. Today's 'liberals' are nothing but statists, socialists, and Marxists.

  • @mashed107

    I was once a Liberal but now i am like you a Libertarian

  • lol you could tell Ron Paul was pissed right from the beginning. Congressman Paul is such an inspiration but I do wish he would be a bit more aggressive like this, if not more.

  • Cenk is a pawn for the democrats. He is the equivelant of Sean Hannity touting the republican mantra.

  • @7zarc7 well at least it will even it out a bit! the republicans are ruthless when it comes to politics!

  • @7zarc7 Have you ever watched him? Sean Hannity would never speak out against any republican politician. Cenk on the other hand frequently condemns Obama for lack of leadership and production.

  • @7zarc7 lol he looks like Sean Hannity now that you mention it

  • @7zarc7 Agreed!

  • He shows polls like that means anything in an intelligent debate...the masses are ignorant, and it's a logical fallacy to appeal to polls.

    Argumentum ad populum, appeal to majority opinion.

    Hey Cenk, stop using informal logical fallacies to make statist points.

  • @ProIndividual The fallacy of which of you refer to applies in such cases as:

    A: Is X right or wrong?

    B: Majority of people say right, so it is right

    However, Cenk's use of polls in this case was appropriate, as he invoked the polls to reflect the opinion of the population in order to establish a foundation for his followup. People are more angry over cuts than the bankruptcy, thus cutting them would be unpopular. Legitimate use of statistic.

    I'm not "choosing sides." Just pointing it out

  • @DemonicCollusion Cenk uses the poll to suggest somehow cutting entitlements, like Medicare or Medicaid, is wrong because it's not what the people want. He wants to say those polls point directly to the source of anger for the masses. It oversimplifies to back his statist liberal point; that people don't want entitlement cuts, they want higher taxes on rich people, etc.

    Of course they don't want their handouts cut! The poll is irrelevant to solving the issue, and cause of mass anger.