SIG USA sucks period. They are ruining the legacy of the superb Swiss/German Sig-Sauer pistols. If you want a quality SIG that will function 100% stay the Hell away from the crappy American made Sigs. Get a P-230,232 if yo want a .380.
American manufacturers are flooding the market with sub-par pistols and ALL consumers should beware. S&W,Ruger and Taurus are also doing the same. Stay away!
@craigdamage Really. Ruger and S&W offer sub-par pistols? Based on what information do you make that comment? The only part of your comment that is even remotely correct could be about Taurus. But you do realize Taurus is a Brazilian manufacturer, right?
@iropeadope Yeah dude...I know Taurus is from Brazil.(Rossi and Bersa too) Ruger and S&W have recently been churning out some seriously lame products. Ruger LCRs cracking with +p ammo. LCP slide issues. S&W has had several MAJOR issues with the "Bodyguard" series....etc. I have several decades experience with firearms.
Many manufaturers are currently spewing out low quality garbage to fill the enourmous demands of young and inexperienced shooters who obviously don't know the difference.
I had same problem. Took my brand new, properly lubed P238, down to the range, and was having many feeding malfunctions with Ball ( full metal jacket ) ammo! I've never in my life had this happen with any of the many guns I have owned, and with my first Sig, this happens! Frustrated, I started cleaning my gun. After running a Q-tip, along the ramp, I noticed a bur that was snagging the Q-tip. I grinded and polished off the bur by hand, and now no jams. Thought the bullet case was the culprit.
I had same problem. Took my brand new, properly lubed P238, down to the range, and was having many feeding malfunctions with Ball ( full metal jacket ) ammo! I've never in my life had this happen with any of the many guns I have owned, and with my first Sig, this happens! Frustrated, I started cleaning my gun. After running a Q-tip, along the ramp, I noticed a bur that was snagging the Q-tip. I grinded and polished off the bur by hand, and now no jams. Thought the bullet case was the culprit.
I have one which was manufactured last month. The barrel design looks the same, but the latest magazine has a continuous edge wrapping around the front-right corner, instead of that little shoulder bump sticking up. I just fired the first ~75 rounds through it today, and that spot on the barrel appears to have no marks at all. The black coating is still solid.
SIG has screwed the pooch. Period. Sig USA is churning out sub-par products.
You will NEVER find flaws like this in any of the proper Swiss/German Sigs.
Really sad to me. American gun companies are so desperate for record profits they are saturating the market with piss-poor products. Ruger and S&W are even worse.
btw...I own 3 German made Sigs and two classic Smith and Wesson revolvers that are all superb.
Gabe I've watched all of your videos regarding the 238 and decided to file the smallest section off of my barrel after doing this I went ahead and polished the feed ramp this leading to my polishing the entire barrel , last night we took the gun to the range and fired 100 rounds w/o any jams, however I still think there's more to it than just the barrel and mag , I have a funny feeling the extractor is also of poor design and could stand to have a bit more grab on the empty casing, just an idea
I would love one of these but there are way to many issues and I would not in full confidence be able to carry it. I called Sig and they said they would not be fixing this problem. I'm going to have to pass on this one. Sucks I love the look!
Good Video - I hope Sig makes the Correction on all the p238's; seems like they just need to either shorten that ramp by a few millimeters or perhaps increase the angle of the ramp so that the ramp does not even come close to the mag. - Could you imagine really needing to draw and fire your Concealed Carry Pistol just to have it fail.
Im having problems with mine also . im going to check it out see if its the same thing. i paid to much money for his little gun.shouldnt pay $600 dollars and now feeding problems. Already sent it to sig. came back. shot remington loads, jams . ire wenchester james . Im going to send it back one more time to sig and if it continues will be for sale. I went to the gun dealer and all they would give me is $250 gun , i laughed walked out, $250? HAAAAAAA
thanks for the video. I have this gun and have never had a jam. I will check those areas just to make sure that my gun is not showing any signs of wear or malfunction.
Give the magazine a good look where you think it's hitting the barrel and the magazine should have a small witness where the two pieces interfere. ( Just more evidence of the problem.)
@highdesignfool Mine is jamming all over the place. Sent it in because the extractor broke and now keeps jamming so will send it in one more time. I think its over price little junk. its not worth no $600. give them $300 what a waste of money.
your not the only one having issues with this pistol. I'm getting jams on the 4th round. I recently called Sig, and there sending me a new mag, and a new recoil spring, I'll update you on if this works, or not...good job on the videos by the way.
Man you just find what 6 figure salary gun engineers from Sig couldn't ! Grate video ! I am not getting this gun! Same thing with the colt mustang ! they are good looking but the do not work properly. Ruger LCP Here I come
@jsdubon82 You best keep that LCP because this little gun is junk! If i have to defend myself with it ill just give to the criminals! hAAaaaaa what shit! for $600 ... I went to gun dealer and he said all its worth is $250.....I said dam!
Darnit I was hoping this was why mine was failing to feed but alas no burrs. Just finicky about ammo I guess. You should send this video on to Sig by all means.
@gabe200027 Sig needs to be made aware of all issues or problems with their pistol. I have a HD that has the slide replaced by sig due to the "soft slide issue"
Sig replaced the slide but now my Sig concelled carry holster won't fit because the slide is bigger. I am still waiting for them to send me a new one when one became available.
@tunyung same here, they said mid oct to shoot them an email and they will send me a replacement. how does yours shoot now I took mine out and it did not eject 2 out of 6 still I am dissapionted. we need sig to view these videos to see for them selfs.
I'm confused by what I'm seeing. From the looks of it, it appears that this gun wouldn't even cycle, or would punch a hole in the magazine. With the mag fully inserted, how is the gun cycling at all?
I like how well you captured the detail in this video! However, I disagree with your conclusion with respect to the feeding issue. If the barrel is hitting the magazine, then the bullets will not be contacting the feed ramp at that same location. I found that my P238 has the bullets contacting the feed ramp approximately in the middle of the ramp, well above the ding on my ramp. Try shooting yours without cleaning it for over 100 rounds to see exactly where they are contacting the feed ramp.
file the feed ramp.
M107SASR 1 day ago
@M107SASR That was done you'll need to see all of my P238 videos.
gabe200027 1 day ago
what a piece of shit
PureHayabusa 1 month ago
SIG USA sucks period. They are ruining the legacy of the superb Swiss/German Sig-Sauer pistols. If you want a quality SIG that will function 100% stay the Hell away from the crappy American made Sigs. Get a P-230,232 if yo want a .380.
American manufacturers are flooding the market with sub-par pistols and ALL consumers should beware. S&W,Ruger and Taurus are also doing the same. Stay away!
craigdamage 4 months ago
@craigdamage Really. Ruger and S&W offer sub-par pistols? Based on what information do you make that comment? The only part of your comment that is even remotely correct could be about Taurus. But you do realize Taurus is a Brazilian manufacturer, right?
iropeadope 3 months ago
@iropeadope Yeah dude...I know Taurus is from Brazil.(Rossi and Bersa too) Ruger and S&W have recently been churning out some seriously lame products. Ruger LCRs cracking with +p ammo. LCP slide issues. S&W has had several MAJOR issues with the "Bodyguard" series....etc. I have several decades experience with firearms.
Many manufaturers are currently spewing out low quality garbage to fill the enourmous demands of young and inexperienced shooters who obviously don't know the difference.
craigdamage 3 months ago
@craigdamage WRONG!....Oooops,my bad. Bersa is actually from Argentina.
craigdamage 3 months ago
yeah after watcign the whole video you have the old mag...
sniperUSMC00 4 months ago
i think you need the new mag - this fixes the issue 99% of the time. make sure its the polished one.
sniperUSMC00 4 months ago
macro is said (mack-row) not (may-crow) fyi ^^
JAYcovey706 4 months ago
I have a model made in July 2010, the updated magazines have a notch cut.
MrSpoolie12 4 months ago
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I had same problem. Took my brand new, properly lubed P238, down to the range, and was having many feeding malfunctions with Ball ( full metal jacket ) ammo! I've never in my life had this happen with any of the many guns I have owned, and with my first Sig, this happens! Frustrated, I started cleaning my gun. After running a Q-tip, along the ramp, I noticed a bur that was snagging the Q-tip. I grinded and polished off the bur by hand, and now no jams. Thought the bullet case was the culprit.
benny99507 6 months ago
I had same problem. Took my brand new, properly lubed P238, down to the range, and was having many feeding malfunctions with Ball ( full metal jacket ) ammo! I've never in my life had this happen with any of the many guns I have owned, and with my first Sig, this happens! Frustrated, I started cleaning my gun. After running a Q-tip, along the ramp, I noticed a bur that was snagging the Q-tip. I grinded and polished off the bur by hand, and now no jams. Thought the bullet case was the culprit.
benny99507 6 months ago
I have one which was manufactured last month. The barrel design looks the same, but the latest magazine has a continuous edge wrapping around the front-right corner, instead of that little shoulder bump sticking up. I just fired the first ~75 rounds through it today, and that spot on the barrel appears to have no marks at all. The black coating is still solid.
Mole6022e23 7 months ago
Colt Mustang had the very same feed problem. I have rework about 30 of them for people over the years.
lisar3006 7 months ago
SIG has screwed the pooch. Period. Sig USA is churning out sub-par products.
You will NEVER find flaws like this in any of the proper Swiss/German Sigs.
Really sad to me. American gun companies are so desperate for record profits they are saturating the market with piss-poor products. Ruger and S&W are even worse.
btw...I own 3 German made Sigs and two classic Smith and Wesson revolvers that are all superb.
craigdamage 10 months ago
Gabe I've watched all of your videos regarding the 238 and decided to file the smallest section off of my barrel after doing this I went ahead and polished the feed ramp this leading to my polishing the entire barrel , last night we took the gun to the range and fired 100 rounds w/o any jams, however I still think there's more to it than just the barrel and mag , I have a funny feeling the extractor is also of poor design and could stand to have a bit more grab on the empty casing, just an idea
Whytnoiz07 11 months ago
I would love one of these but there are way to many issues and I would not in full confidence be able to carry it. I called Sig and they said they would not be fixing this problem. I'm going to have to pass on this one. Sucks I love the look!
JPLReptiles 11 months ago
Sorry guys I didn't update sooner...I got a new spring (much bigger one) and a 3rd generation magazine. This P238 works flawless now. Thank You SIG!
JayDee189 1 year ago
Good Video - I hope Sig makes the Correction on all the p238's; seems like they just need to either shorten that ramp by a few millimeters or perhaps increase the angle of the ramp so that the ramp does not even come close to the mag. - Could you imagine really needing to draw and fire your Concealed Carry Pistol just to have it fail.
FreeAgain2 1 year ago
Im having problems with mine also . im going to check it out see if its the same thing. i paid to much money for his little gun.shouldnt pay $600 dollars and now feeding problems. Already sent it to sig. came back. shot remington loads, jams . ire wenchester james . Im going to send it back one more time to sig and if it continues will be for sale. I went to the gun dealer and all they would give me is $250 gun , i laughed walked out, $250? HAAAAAAA
spacecop67 1 year ago
thanks for the video. I have this gun and have never had a jam. I will check those areas just to make sure that my gun is not showing any signs of wear or malfunction.
OBryantFamily 1 year ago
Did Sig fix this problem?
jbravo70 1 year ago
@jbravo70 Yes
gabe200027 1 year ago
Give the magazine a good look where you think it's hitting the barrel and the magazine should have a small witness where the two pieces interfere. ( Just more evidence of the problem.)
highdesignfool 1 year ago
@highdesignfool Mine is jamming all over the place. Sent it in because the extractor broke and now keeps jamming so will send it in one more time. I think its over price little junk. its not worth no $600. give them $300 what a waste of money.
spacecop67 1 year ago
you got a pube in your mag
baltzellb 1 year ago
your not the only one having issues with this pistol. I'm getting jams on the 4th round. I recently called Sig, and there sending me a new mag, and a new recoil spring, I'll update you on if this works, or not...good job on the videos by the way.
JayDee189 1 year ago
@JayDee189 Thats probably what i need ! Jamming , remind me M16 , Jamine Jeany!
spacecop67 1 year ago
Man you just find what 6 figure salary gun engineers from Sig couldn't ! Grate video ! I am not getting this gun! Same thing with the colt mustang ! they are good looking but the do not work properly. Ruger LCP Here I come
jsdubon82 1 year ago
@jsdubon82 You best keep that LCP because this little gun is junk! If i have to defend myself with it ill just give to the criminals! hAAaaaaa what shit! for $600 ... I went to gun dealer and he said all its worth is $250.....I said dam!
spacecop67 1 year ago
THANKS FOR THE INFO GOOD LOOKIN OUT
hoggwheels 1 year ago
Darnit I was hoping this was why mine was failing to feed but alas no burrs. Just finicky about ammo I guess. You should send this video on to Sig by all means.
v3z6kc 1 year ago
AWESOME VID. thanks
JackSureshot 1 year ago
please tell me you have sent this link to a sig representative and/or customer service !!!
cartweth 1 year ago 2
@cartweth, I have not. Think I need to?
gabe200027 1 year ago
@gabe200027 Sig needs to be made aware of all issues or problems with their pistol. I have a HD that has the slide replaced by sig due to the "soft slide issue"
Sig replaced the slide but now my Sig concelled carry holster won't fit because the slide is bigger. I am still waiting for them to send me a new one when one became available.
tunyung 1 year ago
@tunyung same here, they said mid oct to shoot them an email and they will send me a replacement. how does yours shoot now I took mine out and it did not eject 2 out of 6 still I am dissapionted. we need sig to view these videos to see for them selfs.
eddie2fly 1 year ago
I'm confused by what I'm seeing. From the looks of it, it appears that this gun wouldn't even cycle, or would punch a hole in the magazine. With the mag fully inserted, how is the gun cycling at all?
meiowalot 1 year ago
Thanks for this great video!
I just sent my p238 HD to sig for the same problem, damage on the right side mostly, and all the way across the bottom is burred a bit.
The slide stop is also chewed up like many I've seen from others.
The only problem is not locking back on the last round. Shoots fine other than that.
jolow2 1 year ago
I like how well you captured the detail in this video! However, I disagree with your conclusion with respect to the feeding issue. If the barrel is hitting the magazine, then the bullets will not be contacting the feed ramp at that same location. I found that my P238 has the bullets contacting the feed ramp approximately in the middle of the ramp, well above the ding on my ramp. Try shooting yours without cleaning it for over 100 rounds to see exactly where they are contacting the feed ramp.
cyclone336 1 year ago