Vid45 Volcano Cell Update (HHO, Brown's Gas, Hydroxy)

[shiftingclown]

HOW THAT VALCANO HHO DESIGN MADE I LIKE THAT ONE PUT A CUPPLE OF THEM WITH A COOLING FAN I CAN RUN MY LAWN MOUR LOOK COOL

[heartrobot351]

hey i been watching your videos nice work, one question , on the plates? you said you have to drill a hole in the middle ? what for? and what kind of seals you use?

[UltraDavidson37]

Very original, but this design is not as efficient, the bubbles begin to accumulate between the plates and prevent a good electrolysis, due to the horizontal position of the cell

[HHO4ALL]

@UltraDavidson37 You are entitled to your opinion. I have tried standard drycell designs and horizontal designs actually work much better than vertical designs. 

Vertical designs build up pockets of gas that have to be forced from one plate to another. They also have less reactive surface area, because the electrolyte will not go above the exhaust port. This leaves you with 10 to 15% of unused surface area.

[UltraDavidson37]

@HHO4ALLExcellent response, very good explanation, I have observed the same in my experiments with dry cells. So the idea is to merge the electrolyte tank, with the dry cell. But then, my question is, gas bubbles make it out fast enough so as not to accumulate between the plates?

[HHO4ALL]

@UltraDavidson37 I use nothing larger than 4" x 4" plates with 1/2" exhaust holes drilled in the center, because larger plates do accumulate pockets of gas.

[UltraDavidson37]

@HHO4ALL Yeah... that's the idea, to avoid that

[tectalabyss]

Neat setup Maybe try to offset your tabs . And add one more bolt in between may stop your leaks.Thanks for sharing.Tec

[PappyDan]

trim the plates down on one side, but leave a little tab to plug the female connector in to in diffrent locations to reduce over crowding.

to increase flow, use 2 tanks, and pipe it so the water can flow in from the bottom and bleed over to the second tank to prevent over flow.

[HydroStudy]

You have great ideas and very clean setups and i have expirimented with drycells and wetcells. It seems to me that a circular fuel cell plate has better output than a square or rectangle. An example would be a stainless steel 2in washer.. i produced 2 LPM with 7 of them with 12 volts 8.5 amps using KOH... try circular shapes in some of your drycells and find out gfor yourself---HydroStudy

[HHO4ALL]

Check out my video 28 & 29 to see a Washer DryCell that I came up with.

[summertimef1]

@HHO4ALL i got a question i have my ss plates. what did u find the best result in plate setup +nn-nn+nn- or +n-n+ or +nnn-nnn+ what worked the best. ihave a 5 plate setup +n-n+ and i have a 19 plate +n-n+n-n+ ect.. i did to the +-+-+ that didnt work to well drew way to many amps.. so it need a N to separate them.. but should i use two N or three N?

[HHO4ALL]

@summertimef1 I discovered that using Negative Plates on the ends reduced the number of Pos Plates and in effect reduced amperage.

Try a configuration like this (you will get the similar output with lower amperage)

-nnn+nnn- (using the extra neutral will increase the distance between the POS & NEG plates and will reduce amperage)

Adding neutral plates lowers the voltage per plate. 5 plates at 12v = 2.4v per plate, and 9 plates at 12v = 1.3v per plate.

[moonielo]

nice system! never thought of this..

[HHO4ALL]

Thanks

[DEKAROHHO]

Love it ! Am going to make a volcano cell. Give parts list written and parts sources. Is there not a hole in each plate for gas escape? Can you recommend power supplies and sources for parts such as nylon bolts and washers? Please give a source for neoprene for making gaskets for dry cells.

[DEKAROHHO]

List for reading purposes your materials, measured sizes. List out supply sources that you use for nylon bolts washers. The gauge of feed wire used to feed the volcano cell etc. Give sources of the neoprene for making gaskets. Is there a hole in each plate for gas escape?? Give power supply used and the supplier obtained from. Preparing to build three different cells and want to set up a well outfitted construction area and testing facilities. Anyone reading this please respond.

[BigFireDave]

Possibly you could put positive leads on one side and negative on the other. Besides helping to eliminate the leak caused by crowding it would also even out the electron flow.

[HHO4ALL]

Thanks for the great idea. Sometimes you can't see these things yourself, until someone else points them out.

I was working on a new design, but I've been so busy lately that I haven't had a chance to finish it and get a video posted.

I'll have to make sure I have my connections on opposite sides of the plates to see if it makes any difference.

[HHOhybridBuilder]

Impressive and wonderful.

[HHO4ALL]

thank you

[RisingSun350]

Its looking good. It would be awesome to see a large scale version of this. (Ex: like the 6"or 8" plate scale.)

I wonder what would happen if instead of having just one output hole on the top of the cell, have 2 or 3 going into the water cup. Maybe this would reduce gas pocketing. Increase output. Just a thought.

[hhoWayToGo]

great to see an update :)

are those power wires made of steel?

if so, it's a waste of power. take copper wire instead, because steel wire has a higher resistance than copper does and therefore energy is wasted in the form of heat.

cheers. keep it up.

[rainmaker0909]

Very nice cell, I'm glad that you didn't have to buy new materials, That shows us not to discard our old projects. We can recycle them!!! look forward to LPM outcome Cool name makes me think of the vinegar and baking (power) (soda) experiments that kids do in school !!! I've been out of school for a loooong time, I guess they still do it.

keep it up

[HHO4ALL]

Thanks for the spare parts, they are coming in handy.

I have another design that is a little bigger, but I had a leak that I need to fix before I will make a video.

[ZEROPOINT132]

Nice cell and production, not sure if the water is flowing through the cell or not.

cheers.

[insAneTunA]

Hey there,

Looking forward to see the video with the LPM.

:-)

Greets, iT

[TheJax101]

I love small cells I have three, a 3, 4, 5, plate very portable,

Mine put out up to .5LPM but do get hot, but it's just to show peeps the process of an HHO cell and they can run small torch.

Low volts on the 3 plate.

Nice work

[anilchavands]

@TheJax101

[sakcheegii]

Don't you think it is too thin spacing? Could water enter to between your cell plates?

[HHO4ALL]

I am using 1/16" Shower Pan liner for my gaskets. This is pretty much the standard for most dry cells.

Water does not have any problems getting between the plates. In the center of each plate I have a 1/2" hole that is located directly below the 1/2" Hose Barb. Gravity forces the water from the bubbler into the cell, where the center chamber is filled completely.

[HHOPWR]

Thanks for sharing. Keep up the fight.

Larry

[SmartScarecrow]

is this design sensitive to being "off level" ???

[HHO4ALL]

It's my crappy video skills that gives the illusion of it being "off level".

[HHO4ALL]

I used the cutting board pieces from a previous project, but I had to rotate the cell to get it to fit between the 4 bolts.

[SmartScarecrow]

you misunderstand ... I was wondering if this design will still perform well if it is mounted off level ... it seems to me that only a slight off level condition would cause gas pockets to form at the high points in the device which I think might cause a loss of productivity ... just wondered if you had thought of this and compensated in some way ...

[HHO4ALL]

You are right, I was way off. I hadn't taken that into account, but I'm sure I could mount it on a float plate to keep it level.

I've started working on a new variation that has dual output. The holes are drilled at the corners of the 3"x3" plates (diagonally across from each other). This should help with water refill and reduce the chance of any gas pockets from forming.