Power isn't everything. In the rough stuff, 4wd, ground clearance, and bigger tires make more of a difference than power.
I've ridden different kinds including a Banshee, and have owned 4 ATVs, including a sport ATV (Kawasaki Mojave). I know for a fact that a sport machine, while handling good and having great power, will NOT go all the places where an IRS 4wd utility 4wd will go.
I currently have an '06 Wolverine 450, and did have an '07 Brute Force 750 until I lost my job and had to sell it.
@HKrider218 I care about clearance, as do quite a few others.
But if you don't care about clearance, why did you increase preload and add bigger tires?
By the way, there were very few places, if any where the extra power of my Brute gave any practical advantage over my Wolverine. Power is usually only good for bragging rights and testosterone-induced stunts that can get you killed. In fact, on steep Kentucky hillclimbs, my lighter and more stable Wolverine 450 had an advantage over the Brute.
@HKrider218 But you said things like "i HAVE an 08" and "i HAVE 27" swamplights" and "i HAVE a shit load of clearence". The word "have" that you used 3 times is present tense, meaning you CURRENTLY HAVE a Brute.
@HKrider218 And regardless of how much money I have, I still prefer a durable and reliable machine that requires fewer repairs. The more reliable and durable machine is less likely to leave me stranded and less likely to ruin a good day of riding, just like my Brute did. It's that simple.
There's 3 ATV forum sites that I belong to. ATVSource is one, Nyroc is another, and High Lifter is a third. They have lots of good info about each machine's weaknesses.
One of the more major problems with Can Am is the SST frame. At the very least, it needs a good set of skidplates to reduce damage to the frame spar. The frame can be dented and bent so easily that there are lots of fixes on the internet to strengthen it. You might should check into it.
@WKHalford yep already got a new aftermarket skidplate btw i had a highlifter button kit on my brute it locked the front diff in place so i didnt have to hold the button and what kind of wheeler do you have??
@HKrider218 After I had the engine in my '07 Brute quit, I sold it, so now I just have an '06 Wolverine 450 4wd. But I just started a very well paying job in northwestern New Mexico (just moved there from Florida), so I hope to get a new utility ATV soon while keeping the Wolverine. The Wolverine 450 is a fairly light and compact ATV that does good at a lot of things. It's easy to ride and won't pull any punches. In fact, like I said before, it climbed steep hills better than the Brute.
@HKrider218 I used to trailer both the Brute and the Wolverine to a small town in eastern central Kentucky in the mountains. Although the Brute had an advantage in some places with the locker and IRS, there were other places where the 100lb less weight of the Wolverine gave it an advantage. There's a rock face there called Binocular. Although it was a lot of work to get the Wolverine up it, it made it on it's own power. I had to winch the Brute up it.
@WKHalford yeah the brutes pretty light for its size but its not the lightest or the tallest when your in mud i love the brute its light i was riding with my cousin and his friend they both had sportsman 800 and they were talking shit so i told them lets go play in this swamp/mud there was like 3feet of water and the rest was mud but they got stuck and i just was runing circles around them bcause i was lighter and i had wide tires the swamplights are great tires i love them look them up on youtu
@HKrider218 Mine had 27" Mud Lites, they did good in mud. They didn't do well rock crawling or on steep hills. I like woods trails, hillclimbs, & rock crawling. The stock tires on the Wolverine are fine for that. The Mud Lites on the Brute sucked on rocks and steep hills. Then again, the Brute isn't as stable or heavy enough in front to keep the front end down, even with a winch. The Wolverine is front heavy, stable and lighter, that helps, so the Brute's tires weren't all the problem.
If you think that you are going to convince anyone that a 2wd limited ground clearance sport machine (with no reverse) will go where these 4wd 25" tire IRS utility machines go UNDER THEIR OWN POWER, you are WRONG. At least you won't convince anyone that has significant knowledge of ATVs.
There's no way a Banshee will go over those tall logs easier than the Grizzly did. The Banshee certainly would require a LOT more effort. That is a FACT.
@TheHondaAbuser The only real advantage those machines have in those situations is the fact they are lighter. That's it.
If you notice, it specified in capital letters "UNDER THEIR OWN POWER". No way a sport machine will do better.
Just because your Banshee/450R MIGHT do okay in the rough, that doesn't mean they are superior overall.
I've had a dirtbike. I know for a fact that there's places a 4wd ute ATV can go a dirtbike can't, and with less effort as well as less risk of getting hurt.
@WKHalford just lightereh.ok whatever u say lol im quite sure my shee has more power as well. and a dirtbike will go way farther than any atv in almost any terrain. and usually a hell of a lot faster except in snow, but if your so great why dont u make a video of your quad ( i doubt u have 1 ) and a sport quad goin at it. the goof on the utility quad will have a sore ass and wont be able to breath through all the dust.
@TheHondaAbuser I forgot to reply my last post to you. Read it.
And no, I do not lose. Having all 4 wheels pulling, more aggressive utility tires, higher ground clearance, reverse etc. beats a 2wd sport machine without reverse in most any terrain. And I'm not talking about speed, I'm talking about what it will go through.
And I've had my Kawasaki KLR250 street legal dirt bike stuck as much as, if not more than, my Wolverine 450 and Brute Force 750 combined. Same with my Kawasaki Mojave 250.
@HKrider218 Show me where I said anything bad about the Brute. But since you decided to wrongly respond, I will say it now. I had an '07 Brute 750. Although having good power, it constantly required work. The airbox design sucks. Tie rod ends wore out. Once stuck in a mud hole in 2wd, 4wd didn't want to engage (must be engaged BEFORE going in). The CVT design is inferior. Despite my Brute having 27" Mud Lites, more power, and a front locker, my '06 Wolverine 450 climbs steep hills better.
@HKrider218 In addition to what I just said, the Brute overheats easily. Lubrication to the valvetrain sucks. For an IRS machine, the ground clearance isn't good. The Brute has flaws that should be addressed with aftermarket fixes (airbox and tie rod ends, etc.). My Brute had less than 700 hours and it seized a crank bearing despite the fact that I took care of it.
Yes, the Brute kills. It kills the wallet. It kills tie rod ends.The engine kills itself. Maybe you should research it online.
@WKHalford and you bought a 07 i have an 08 and i bet it will kick all your pieces of shit machines have there goods and bads and btw clearence isnt a problem just turn your shocks up and put tires on i have 27" swamplights and i have a shit load of clearence the only shity part is the fuel pump they need better filters on the pump
@HKrider218 Yes, all machines have good and bad points. But some are worse than average, and the Brute is one of them. The '08 was an improvement with the addition of fuel injection, since it doesn't run quite as lean, making it run cooler. But the '08 also has less ground clearance than the '07.
So why should I make the Brute ride rougher by cranking preload when I can buy a machine that has more clearance to start with? And bigger tires can be added to any machine, making that a moot point.
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patpat22023 2 days ago
Just bought a 2012 and love it
pmnova 2 weeks ago
If anyone wants to trade a atv like this for a 2007 kx 85 hit me up
TheBowlingboy300 1 month ago
GO YAMAHA!
cbk982 3 months ago
What do these sell for?
RoughNeckRage 3 months ago
Im getting an 05 kodiak 400. Anybody got any comments?
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cbk982 3 months ago
@beachamboys11 its a great quad. my uncle has 2 of them and they are great 4 wheelers :D
traxxasmaxx33 2 months ago
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sldl04 8 months ago
this is way ride not be all nice with atv power though what in ur way
nice i want ride there look fun
TheDivinedragon13 8 months ago
Power isn't everything. In the rough stuff, 4wd, ground clearance, and bigger tires make more of a difference than power.
I've ridden different kinds including a Banshee, and have owned 4 ATVs, including a sport ATV (Kawasaki Mojave). I know for a fact that a sport machine, while handling good and having great power, will NOT go all the places where an IRS 4wd utility 4wd will go.
I currently have an '06 Wolverine 450, and did have an '07 Brute Force 750 until I lost my job and had to sell it.
WKHalford 1 year ago
@WKHalford or you could get a wheeler with power who gives a shit about clearence i got money to repair it so
HKrider218 10 months ago
@HKrider218 I care about clearance, as do quite a few others.
But if you don't care about clearance, why did you increase preload and add bigger tires?
By the way, there were very few places, if any where the extra power of my Brute gave any practical advantage over my Wolverine. Power is usually only good for bragging rights and testosterone-induced stunts that can get you killed. In fact, on steep Kentucky hillclimbs, my lighter and more stable Wolverine 450 had an advantage over the Brute.
WKHalford 10 months ago
@WKHalford thats cool i sold my brute in 09 but i have a renagade 800 its BA
HKrider218 10 months ago
@HKrider218 But you said things like "i HAVE an 08" and "i HAVE 27" swamplights" and "i HAVE a shit load of clearence". The word "have" that you used 3 times is present tense, meaning you CURRENTLY HAVE a Brute.
Now you are saying you got rid of it in '09.
Which is it?
WKHalford 10 months ago
@HKrider218 And regardless of how much money I have, I still prefer a durable and reliable machine that requires fewer repairs. The more reliable and durable machine is less likely to leave me stranded and less likely to ruin a good day of riding, just like my Brute did. It's that simple.
WKHalford 10 months ago
@WKHalford yeah well i had a brute i sold it in 09 had like 36hrs on it i like my renegade better though
HKrider218 10 months ago
@HKrider218 Okay, just making sure.
There's 3 ATV forum sites that I belong to. ATVSource is one, Nyroc is another, and High Lifter is a third. They have lots of good info about each machine's weaknesses.
One of the more major problems with Can Am is the SST frame. At the very least, it needs a good set of skidplates to reduce damage to the frame spar. The frame can be dented and bent so easily that there are lots of fixes on the internet to strengthen it. You might should check into it.
WKHalford 10 months ago
@WKHalford yep already got a new aftermarket skidplate btw i had a highlifter button kit on my brute it locked the front diff in place so i didnt have to hold the button and what kind of wheeler do you have??
HKrider218 10 months ago
@HKrider218 After I had the engine in my '07 Brute quit, I sold it, so now I just have an '06 Wolverine 450 4wd. But I just started a very well paying job in northwestern New Mexico (just moved there from Florida), so I hope to get a new utility ATV soon while keeping the Wolverine. The Wolverine 450 is a fairly light and compact ATV that does good at a lot of things. It's easy to ride and won't pull any punches. In fact, like I said before, it climbed steep hills better than the Brute.
WKHalford 10 months ago
@HKrider218 I used to trailer both the Brute and the Wolverine to a small town in eastern central Kentucky in the mountains. Although the Brute had an advantage in some places with the locker and IRS, there were other places where the 100lb less weight of the Wolverine gave it an advantage. There's a rock face there called Binocular. Although it was a lot of work to get the Wolverine up it, it made it on it's own power. I had to winch the Brute up it.
WKHalford 10 months ago
@WKHalford yeah the brutes pretty light for its size but its not the lightest or the tallest when your in mud i love the brute its light i was riding with my cousin and his friend they both had sportsman 800 and they were talking shit so i told them lets go play in this swamp/mud there was like 3feet of water and the rest was mud but they got stuck and i just was runing circles around them bcause i was lighter and i had wide tires the swamplights are great tires i love them look them up on youtu
HKrider218 10 months ago
@HKrider218 Mine had 27" Mud Lites, they did good in mud. They didn't do well rock crawling or on steep hills. I like woods trails, hillclimbs, & rock crawling. The stock tires on the Wolverine are fine for that. The Mud Lites on the Brute sucked on rocks and steep hills. Then again, the Brute isn't as stable or heavy enough in front to keep the front end down, even with a winch. The Wolverine is front heavy, stable and lighter, that helps, so the Brute's tires weren't all the problem.
WKHalford 10 months ago
@WKHalford FUCKING FAGGIT YOU BETTER GIVE YOUR TOWN AND YOUR PHONE NUMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CHICKEN SHIT BASARD
allanshawn 10 months ago
@allanshawn You have yet to give your phone number, full name, email, etc. Why should I?
And what is a "basard"?
You keep showing your stupidity and idiocy with every post.
WKHalford 10 months ago
@WKHalford yeah i can tip the brute on its back rack haha i loved doing wheelies with the but but its even better with the can am
HKrider218 10 months ago
my 98 kodiak can do all that yamaha is the best!!!!!
catdaddyex 1 year ago
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gOn7eSc 1 year ago
@gOn7eSc polaris blows
AviationTech2 1 year ago
@AviationTech2 DUDE polaris is one of the best quad companies out there! your mom is the one that blows XD
aswam444 8 months ago
where is this in washington?
XxmonstahobgobxX 1 year ago
That looks like a blast!
MRSketch09 1 year ago
washington? huh come and see west virginia then you wanna see something i seen one of these roll off agnus before
johntedrowjr 1 year ago 2
id fail on these trails with a quad
skidooracermxz 1 year ago
@skidooracermxz ikr?
airsoftman50 1 year ago
nice couch
RedBullBurger25 1 year ago
lmfao! those trails are nothin! i took my banshee on my extreme shit
TheHondaAbuser 1 year ago
@TheHondaAbuser Nothing??? Really???
If you think that you are going to convince anyone that a 2wd limited ground clearance sport machine (with no reverse) will go where these 4wd 25" tire IRS utility machines go UNDER THEIR OWN POWER, you are WRONG. At least you won't convince anyone that has significant knowledge of ATVs.
There's no way a Banshee will go over those tall logs easier than the Grizzly did. The Banshee certainly would require a LOT more effort. That is a FACT.
WKHalford 1 year ago
@WKHalford buddy ive had my banshee and 450r in alot tougher places than that, But all in all your best bet is a dirtbike
TheHondaAbuser 1 year ago
@TheHondaAbuser The only real advantage those machines have in those situations is the fact they are lighter. That's it.
If you notice, it specified in capital letters "UNDER THEIR OWN POWER". No way a sport machine will do better.
Just because your Banshee/450R MIGHT do okay in the rough, that doesn't mean they are superior overall.
I've had a dirtbike. I know for a fact that there's places a 4wd ute ATV can go a dirtbike can't, and with less effort as well as less risk of getting hurt.
WKHalford 1 year ago
@WKHalford just lightereh.ok whatever u say lol im quite sure my shee has more power as well. and a dirtbike will go way farther than any atv in almost any terrain. and usually a hell of a lot faster except in snow, but if your so great why dont u make a video of your quad ( i doubt u have 1 ) and a sport quad goin at it. the goof on the utility quad will have a sore ass and wont be able to breath through all the dust.
TheHondaAbuser 1 year ago
@WKHalford just admit it. you lose.
TheHondaAbuser 1 year ago
@TheHondaAbuser I forgot to reply my last post to you. Read it.
And no, I do not lose. Having all 4 wheels pulling, more aggressive utility tires, higher ground clearance, reverse etc. beats a 2wd sport machine without reverse in most any terrain. And I'm not talking about speed, I'm talking about what it will go through.
And I've had my Kawasaki KLR250 street legal dirt bike stuck as much as, if not more than, my Wolverine 450 and Brute Force 750 combined. Same with my Kawasaki Mojave 250.
WKHalford 1 year ago
@WKHalford the brute kills man dont be hatin
HKrider218 10 months ago
@HKrider218 Show me where I said anything bad about the Brute. But since you decided to wrongly respond, I will say it now. I had an '07 Brute 750. Although having good power, it constantly required work. The airbox design sucks. Tie rod ends wore out. Once stuck in a mud hole in 2wd, 4wd didn't want to engage (must be engaged BEFORE going in). The CVT design is inferior. Despite my Brute having 27" Mud Lites, more power, and a front locker, my '06 Wolverine 450 climbs steep hills better.
WKHalford 10 months ago
@HKrider218 In addition to what I just said, the Brute overheats easily. Lubrication to the valvetrain sucks. For an IRS machine, the ground clearance isn't good. The Brute has flaws that should be addressed with aftermarket fixes (airbox and tie rod ends, etc.). My Brute had less than 700 hours and it seized a crank bearing despite the fact that I took care of it.
Yes, the Brute kills. It kills the wallet. It kills tie rod ends.The engine kills itself. Maybe you should research it online.
WKHalford 10 months ago
@TheHondaAbuser I don't have a way of recording live video. Just because a person doesn't have video, that doesn't mean they don't have an ATV.
I do have pics posted on ATV Source and Nyroc ATV forums though. My screen name for both is William.
WKHalford 1 year ago
@WKHalford and you bought a 07 i have an 08 and i bet it will kick all your pieces of shit machines have there goods and bads and btw clearence isnt a problem just turn your shocks up and put tires on i have 27" swamplights and i have a shit load of clearence the only shity part is the fuel pump they need better filters on the pump
HKrider218 10 months ago
@HKrider218 Yes, all machines have good and bad points. But some are worse than average, and the Brute is one of them. The '08 was an improvement with the addition of fuel injection, since it doesn't run quite as lean, making it run cooler. But the '08 also has less ground clearance than the '07.
So why should I make the Brute ride rougher by cranking preload when I can buy a machine that has more clearance to start with? And bigger tires can be added to any machine, making that a moot point.
WKHalford 10 months ago
ill pass on 4 wheelers but yamaha is the best by far!
slimshady197825 1 year ago
looks sick!
123devinzz1 1 year ago