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  • we've been lied to folks it's time we come to grips with this, the elitest of this world do not want us to know the true knowledge of this planet, but the truth is now coming out not because they want it to but because it has to come out now.

  • Religions are not "alternatives" or substitutes for the evolutionary model.

  • 3:59pm Wednesday (CDT) - Time in MAC

  • In my humble opinion, the theory of evolution is fine. The scientific consensus for the story of humankind leaves a lot to be desired.

  • Michael Cremo is a tool.

    "not everybody's satisfied with that"

    Who cares if they arent satisfied, its the truth. Tough luck. Get over it.

    "A larger family of spiritual alternatives to Darwinism"

    Darwinism is not a religion on equal footing with others. This is a rediculous assumption. It is scientific proven and does not require belief or faith. It is well above and in a league of its own.

  • @RedAlphaDingo

    I think you are a tool.

    Evolution is scientifically proven? that shows what a tool you truly are. All Michael Cremo is trying to say is that there a lot of gaps in the current accepted theory of evolution and we need a different explanation.....

  • @ameyap108

    Do you think evolution is true or false?

  • @RedAlphaDingo

    I know where you are going with this.

    Anyways,

    yes I think evolution is false. I believe life comes from life and not from chemicals. We do not have any conception of life coming from matter. No one has proved it and will never be able to prove it.

    I know technically evolution is not about the origins of life but evolutionists do realize that they have to explain the how the genetic structures of the first entities came about from the primordial soup and all dey do is speculate

  • @ameyap108

    "never be able to prove it" - So you know the future?

    All of scientific explanations we have for natural events were once thought to be the products of Gods or Supernatural beings - Rain, the Seasons, floods, earthquakes, rainbows, the sun and moon, disease, ... the list is long.

    How many times has a Scientific explanation supplanted a Supernatural one? Too many times to count. How many times has a Supernatural explanation supplanted a Scientific one? Not once. Good luck with that

  • I do not place myself under an religius bannor btw. I am not a beliver at all(so far attleast). But one thing peapel that call themself "athiests" shuld think about is that some of the things religion say is good things that realy every man shold folow whether they are belivers or not, my grandfather is a priest and he say alot of wise things, I take these things in my thught and think about them but I still dotn belive in God.

    So please stop this idiotic argument.

  • @RedAlphaDingo Yes I know that as I am an atheist... read before you speek!

  • Truly, the false religion of "atheism" sponsors totalitarianism. Judaism is a religion. A religion constitutes a form of government. A religion endeavors to regulate, repudiate, & forbid specific human undertakings through law (codes), rites & traditions.

  • @SufferInJuly

    Atheism is not a religion. Atheists do not deny the need for laws and government. You claim that Atheism is false and that you are right. Can you prove that a God exists? Evolution is true, whether you like it or not does not matter. Its true

  • @RedAlphaDingo Can you prove that "God" dosent exist?

    No one knows and only time will tell uss how it is... theese arguments are just idiotic you cant proff there is a god and you cant proff there isnt...

    I mysellf only talk about things I know and dont think about things I cant proff, that dosent meen I dont belive in god, some peapel say they hear and feel the pressance of someone/something and I cant proff them wrong so I shuldent open my mouth. And same goes the other way.

  • @Erik3E

    (1) There is no proof of God. If he does not exist, then you cannot produce direct proof for that either. You can however, provide evidence that it all could have happened without him (Big bang, planetary formation, abiogenesis and evolution) and you can also provide logical argument for why a God cannot exist and also hold the attributes of Oniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Omnibenevalence and being Unchanging all at the same time. That is what atheists argue.

  • @RedAlphaDingo There is no prof of big bang only speculations... history is a big ball of speculation and nothing about history is certan to an exact science.

    I can not argu with someone that cant shut up about things that he know nothing about... as I said before if "god" exists or if he dont only time can tell us that.

    I myself dont belive in anything that the bibel says as It is just a compilation of what different peapel thru history have to say about "god/jesus".

  • @RedAlphaDingo So the whole concept of argumenting this is just not even worth it...

  • @Erik3E

    "So the whole concept of argumenting this is just not even worth it"

    Dont tell me what my viewpoint is. You obviously dont know anything and are simply trying to censor my opinion because you find it offensive. This is what all religion does "agree with me or be tortured". Nowadays its more like "be nice to us and respect us, otherwise you're a meanie".

    Go fuck yourself. Religion is a malignant cancer that destroys our potential and may possibly kill off our species.

  • @RedAlphaDingo You are more retarded than I culd ever imagine... I even told you I was a "non beliver" but you are so full of shitt you dident take that in.

    All I am saying is "no one knows" and therefore nore the belivers or the non belivers shold say what is right or what is not. If someone whant to belive in god I am all for it. And if you are taling about religion, I must admit religion atracts alot of greedy and evil men but I dubt that is beccous of religion itself and mainly becous of

  • @RedAlphaDingo the power one man culd have by controling the masses and clam to speek the words of "god". When I speek about religion I do not speek of a movement I speek of the things peapel say they have experienced "spiritual" not fysical.

    And I say it once more! I am not a beliver so dont say I am trying to stop you from having your own opinion!

    Cheers! :)

  • @Erik3E

    I am sick of stupid theists (or people who believe in the supernatural) on this website that claim they are atheists. Like I will automatically believe them and listen to what they say. I know youre talking bullshit.

    "There is no prof of big bang only speculations"

    Yeah. Completely not true. Just have a look at it the evidence because this is laughable. Just as laughable as claiming that Evolution isnt true.

  • @RedAlphaDingo I am not saying it isent true I am saying it is hard to actualy proff and if we whant to proff it we wold have to do it all over again in an experiment... I dont know how retarded you have to be to actualy be to see that no scientific reserch have ben acepted without an experiment on that it actualy is true!

    If you knew I was talking bullshit you woldent be trying to defend yoursellf so hard...

    Further more I do belive in evolution becous evolution have ben proffen right.

  • @Erik3E

    "if we whant to proff it we wold have to do it all over again in an experiment... no scientific reserch have ben acepted without an experiment"

    LMAO. Are you really that stupid? Thats like a Judge saying they wont convict a person for murder unless they actually saw the person doing it. Even when they have the DNA evidence, footprints, blood splatter, weapon with fingerprints and motive.

    Science DOES accept facts without having to replicate. Becuase they have EVIDENCE left behind.

  • @RedAlphaDingo No that is not the same thing... you cant compair a car to a horse... We can tutch evidence from big bang but we can tutch evidence from a trial.

    And besides it is rather easy to frame someone for a murder so framing big bang for the creation off all wold be just as easy.

  • @Erik3E

    The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. I would suggest reading these two books before you say anything so stupid again:

    Why Evolution is True - Jerry Coyne

    The Greatest Show on Earth - Richard Dawkins

    For the Big Bang I would recommend:

    A Brief History of Time - Stephen Hawking

  • @RedAlphaDingo I just told you I "do" belive in evolotion... I dident say I did not...

  • @Erik3E

    There is no such thing as the spiritual or the supernatural. Its all a bunch of make-believe. Dont like it? To bad. Just becuase its not nice, doesnt mean its not true. Cant you see the patterns? All religions and all things supernatural are dying at the feet of Scientific research and empirical evidence. Science and Atheism will win. That because theyre truth based on evidence, not belief based on wishful thinking.

  • @RedAlphaDingo You are having a hard time seeing what I am saying... might you be blind... I do not "belive in any of the supernatural" or any thing of sutch nature I am saying you cant rule it out just becous you personaly dotn belive in it. It wold be just like saying you can see into the future witch woldent make sence now wold it...

    Oh will some one win? I dident notice this was a competition... if it is then I better polish my gear and suit upp.

  • @RedAlphaDingo And besides never in time will every one belive in exactly the same thing!

  • @Erik3E

    Sigh. I dont care if you dont believe in the Supernatural. But you obviously dont understand the scientific method to say so many stupid things about Science. Science is not on an equal step with religious beliefs. It is above. Science takes into account the unknown the potential for change in the light of new evidence.

    Have a look at these videos on youtube:

    The Scientific Method Made Easy - Potholer54

    The Relativity of Wrong - C0nc0rdance

  • @Erik3E

    "the power one man culd have by controling the masses and clam to speek the words of "god". "

    Yeah. Exactly like the doofus above, Michael Cremo, propounding bogus bullshit.

  • @RedAlphaDingo I have no ideea of who "Michael Cremo" or what he is talking about I was just browsing around youtube and noticed a few comments I thught I wold share my point in. So I cant say he speeks bullshit or not, tho he do looks like someone who talks about allot of bullshit, but then again I can not proff he dose so I wont speek of it.

  • @Erik3E

    Science on the other hand, which you obviously doubt, is a collective effort to discover and prove the truth through the scientific method, empricial evidence and falisifiable theories. If you dont understand science (as you obviously dont) you are not putting your life in trust of man. You are putting your trust elsewhere. Most likely the supernatural. Either that or you are very very very stupid.

  • @RedAlphaDingo As I have said a bilion milion times before... I do only belive in what can be proffen, and some things like the big bang cant realy be proffen but most likely that is what happened but "no one" can be sure(atleast not yett). And otherwise saying that "god" dont exists when you have never ben dead is something that is jsut stupid and something you cant proff. If you are going to proff that god dont exists you better go beond the grave and come back first before you say otherwise.

  • @RedAlphaDingo And same goes for the belivers, they cant know shitt untill they actualy are dead, and if they whant to folow a book with a loot of wisdom on there way to death then fine do so.

    I will just add for the last time "I am not a beliver" and I wont belive untill I meet "god" but untill then I do not belive shitt. Still this argument about if he exists or not is just stupid, what someone whant to belive is upp to them. It is a personal choise and we shold concentrait about other things

  • very interesting, true science is about truth, whether we find it palitable or not.

  • Michael Cremo is great! At last, someone is standing up to the dogma we've been taught in school.

  • @flapjack9999

    Dogma is what you are taught by religion. Science only seeks the truth that can be proven with evidence. Evolution is not dogma, its is truth that is backed by tonnes of evidence. Something religion does not have, but persists in claiming it is truth.

  • @RedAlphaDingo That should be true, but I have found certain parts of Science to be completely dogmatic. They ignore evidence that doesn't fit into their beliefs. Religion was invented by man. Christ (or any other significant teacher) never intended his teachings to be a religion.

  • @flapjack9999

    No. You obviously do not understand science if you say such things as 'their beliefs' about scientists. Science is not dogmatic and does not hold beliefs. That is not the scientific method or the process of compiling empirical evidence. It is the opposite.

  • @RedAlphaDingo "Science is not dogmatic and does not hold beliefs"- ha, that's a big lie, because it's obvious that they do. There are countless examples of scientists who refuse to look at evidence that doesn't fit their own theories-The Bering Strait theory, Asteroid(s) wiping out the dinosaurs, Darwinian Evolution, horizontal plate tectonics, the Earth only being a few billion years old, the age of the universe, ....isn't supported by "all" the evidence.

  • @RedAlphaDingo I bet you don't understand jack-squat about science.

  • @flapjack9999

    It would be funny if it weren't so sad. I can only wish people like you would only open your eyes. Please learn about the scientific process. I can suggest a youtube video called "The Scientific Method made easy by a user called "Potholer54".

  • This guy is amazingly smart. Humanity is billions of years old, humanity is eternal, as are you and as am I. You claim to be hindu, yet hindu is not even a word mentioned in the Vedas, its a slang persian word. Have you even read the Vedas? I didn't think so, please check them out friend.

  • Thank you friend. Vedas do mention Sindhu and the religio-geography of Hinduism has its roots in Vedas. Secondly Hinduism also contains in it non-Vedic traditions. Vedic civilizational etho of unity in diversity (Ekam Sath Vibra Bahutha Vathanthi) forms the basis of Hindu civilization. Humanity is not billions of years old as any tenth grade evolutionary text will tell you. Truth is more important than any scripture as Vedic savants themselves would tell you.

  • not quite sure what you are talking about! If you actually read the vedas you would understand that michael cremo is spot on with what he is saying. Good science actually confirms what the vedas are saying.

  • @shivaalchemy

    Science does not prove any religion true.

  • Maybe he is right but cant prove it in a scientific modern way. Just a out of the norm hypothesis.

    Years ago when scientist theorized about alternate dimensions they were seen as crackpots by the scientific community. I think you need to be an intelligent crackpot to find the truth :)

  • How come nobody even try to debunk this guy?

    Scientific community simply ignore him! I see skeptic websites with people asking about this guy, but nobody answers!

    Do u know why? Cause they just cant deal with him!

  • His work is amazingly well researched.

    And plus it just seems so obvious. Like how could we evolve from apes then right away start building pyramids all over the world 10,000 years ago.

    More and more pyramids are being found all over the globe.

    Like in Caral, Peru.

  • I believe in devolution. If you research farther, the creatures long ago are much bigger than now. Look at the large reptiles, the large birds, the huge dragonflies fossils, wide and much taller trees that were discovered long to have existed long ago, etc. They are far more bigger than ours today. As well as humans, in the bible people can live hundreds of years, but now we can barely reach 90 years of age

  • Bristow42, he is very close to the truth.

  • Blasphemy! XD

  • Wow.

    Look at all the misrepresentations of science.

    I wonder if this man knows how the scientific method works at all?

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