I think it is crazy they think only a spouse/family member will kill their family.. That is not true and their facts are way off with the percentage. Plenty of people murder, rape etc total strangers. All the time! This is very absurd that someone would stab their own selves in the stomach etc.. Maybe he did do it..however.. Police need to do better work. And frankly that lady looks crazier than a loon and possessed as they come. People on drugs kill people all the time.
I've always wondered if this guy was innocent. There just didn't seem to be enough evidence to convict him of the murders at the time. I remember the trial when I was kid, and how everyone was really surprised when he was convicted.
I have been following this case since it happened. Should we dismiss Dr. MacDonald as a suspect? Hell, no. But was there guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt?" Again, hell no. I am a personal friend of a terrific lady who has written books on the subject (she has spent a fortune of her own money doing so) and even she cannot make up her mind as to his guilt or innocence. Even if he did it, he should have been released long before now...
For your information after the MacDonald trial, Bernie Segal became a law school professor. He taught law school for nearly 40 years and was one of the most respected and beloved law school professors at his university. Your negative comment about him is totally disrespectful and untrue.
@melfaery It's interesting that you comment on legal cases when you obviously know nothing about the law.
Bernie Segal was a criminal defense attorney. Do criminal defense attorneys represent clients who are guilty? Absolutely! Because in the US we are presumed innocent of a crime until proven guilty by a court of law.
A criminal defense lawyer is not only defends his client, but the US Constitution as well.
@TheGreatgirl3 Please, get over yourself. As if all criminal defense attorneys are doing God's work and doing it well! Berni didn't do a good job of defending MacDonald. The defense forensic expert said he needed more time to evaluate the evidence, Berni told him, "We don't need more time, he's going to be acquitted." And that closing argument - have you read that?
@Gwyka Please get over YOURSELF. Someone who's being brought to trial has the constitutional RIGHT to have an attorney. Defense attorneys stand up for these individuals, & for this constitutional right. If they didn't, people indicted for crimes would have NO ONE to defend them in a court of law, whether guilty or innocent. But I suppose you believe people accused of crime don't deserve defending, & the constitution is garbage. Never mind, I've already decided I don't care what you think
@Crayzeehappee You suppose wrong about what I believe. I just don't believe that all criminal defense attorneys are "all that". Some are out to make a buck, some just plain suck at what they do and some are wrong. And, yes, some care and are good.
it's too late to claim you don't are what I think after you've hit the post button.
@Gwyka I don't believe I supposed wrong at all.I was led to believe what I did about ur comments by ur own words. If you don't want to be misconstrued, u should be more clear. U implied all defense attorneys are crap, after u told someone who contradicted this to get real. & I don't recall saying they were 'all that', or denying the fact there're less than competent defense attorneys, but this also applies to prosecutors. & I'd comment on ur last sentence, but I cannot understand it.
I originally stated that Berni Segal didn't do such a great job, then, "As if all defense attorneys are doing god's work and doing it well" and then that "Not all defense attorneys are all that."
So, it's quite clear that I've never stated that all defense attorneys suck, or - the words you orginally put in my mouth - that defendants are not entitled to representation.
@ad8369 Yes, in large quantities. Also, analysis showed that Colette's blood was on the pj top before it was torn, further disproving MacDonald's story.
@singpraise247 Yes you can tell when something has been stained with blood before being torn. If you take the torn pieces and put the item back together and the edges of the stain match perfectly - as was done in this case with the pajama top pocket.
@gotch09 You're right. Helena was just desperate for attention and her "confessions" are a joke. They vary widely, they don't match the crime scene, and they don't even match MacDonald's version of events.
@stackleft He was probably trying to explain why it was so bloody. Later, when he stabbed her with the icepick, he either forgot about the top (it was very dark) or simply figured it wouldn't matter.
does anyone else find him really good looking? i feel so wrong saying that but if i saw that man on the street and seeing how hardworking he was etc, i wouldnt even know. that's the scary part.
Also springs can be broken while still being ON something. Duh. They look fine but don't work!!!!!
singpraise247 1 month ago
I think it is crazy they think only a spouse/family member will kill their family.. That is not true and their facts are way off with the percentage. Plenty of people murder, rape etc total strangers. All the time! This is very absurd that someone would stab their own selves in the stomach etc.. Maybe he did do it..however.. Police need to do better work. And frankly that lady looks crazier than a loon and possessed as they come. People on drugs kill people all the time.
singpraise247 1 month ago
looks like a brand new spring to me..
PAGEN3 1 month ago
I've always wondered if this guy was innocent. There just didn't seem to be enough evidence to convict him of the murders at the time. I remember the trial when I was kid, and how everyone was really surprised when he was convicted.
KevinVancouver2 2 months ago
The woman claiming the death of the family was terminally ill and she tried to defend Jeffery knowing that her death was near.
chante707 3 months ago
age 32 for hippie chick to die from a bad liver...must have switched from groovy lsd to night train wine.
monk22yrs 4 months ago
He is one of the most arrogant person I have ever seen!!!! Just disgusting.
mlc2005 6 months ago
I have been following this case since it happened. Should we dismiss Dr. MacDonald as a suspect? Hell, no. But was there guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt?" Again, hell no. I am a personal friend of a terrific lady who has written books on the subject (she has spent a fortune of her own money doing so) and even she cannot make up her mind as to his guilt or innocence. Even if he did it, he should have been released long before now...
keithcozz 7 months ago
4 hour gap between midnight and 4pm?
jimpurdie 7 months ago
helena was just trying to help a fellow evil person out!!
karmalevel 7 months ago
bernie siegal is so scummy.
melfaery 8 months ago
@melfaery
For your information after the MacDonald trial, Bernie Segal became a law school professor. He taught law school for nearly 40 years and was one of the most respected and beloved law school professors at his university. Your negative comment about him is totally disrespectful and untrue.
TheGreatgirl3 4 months ago
@TheGreatgirl3 oh you forgot the spot on his resume where he defended a sociopath who viciously murdered his pregnant wife and children.
melfaery 4 months ago
@melfaery It's interesting that you comment on legal cases when you obviously know nothing about the law.
Bernie Segal was a criminal defense attorney. Do criminal defense attorneys represent clients who are guilty? Absolutely! Because in the US we are presumed innocent of a crime until proven guilty by a court of law.
A criminal defense lawyer is not only defends his client, but the US Constitution as well.
TheGreatgirl3 4 months ago
@TheGreatgirl3 Please, get over yourself. As if all criminal defense attorneys are doing God's work and doing it well! Berni didn't do a good job of defending MacDonald. The defense forensic expert said he needed more time to evaluate the evidence, Berni told him, "We don't need more time, he's going to be acquitted." And that closing argument - have you read that?
Gwyka 4 months ago
@Gwyka Please get over YOURSELF. Someone who's being brought to trial has the constitutional RIGHT to have an attorney. Defense attorneys stand up for these individuals, & for this constitutional right. If they didn't, people indicted for crimes would have NO ONE to defend them in a court of law, whether guilty or innocent. But I suppose you believe people accused of crime don't deserve defending, & the constitution is garbage. Never mind, I've already decided I don't care what you think
Crayzeehappee 2 months ago
@Crayzeehappee You suppose wrong about what I believe. I just don't believe that all criminal defense attorneys are "all that". Some are out to make a buck, some just plain suck at what they do and some are wrong. And, yes, some care and are good.
it's too late to claim you don't are what I think after you've hit the post button.
Gwyka 2 months ago
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@Gwyka I don't believe I supposed wrong at all.I was led to believe what I did about ur comments by ur own words. If you don't want to be misconstrued, u should be more clear. U implied all defense attorneys are crap, after u told someone who contradicted this to get real. & I don't recall saying they were 'all that', or denying the fact there're less than competent defense attorneys, but this also applies to prosecutors. & I'd comment on ur last sentence, but I cannot understand it.
Crayzeehappee 2 months ago
@Crayzeehappee
I originally stated that Berni Segal didn't do such a great job, then, "As if all defense attorneys are doing god's work and doing it well" and then that "Not all defense attorneys are all that."
So, it's quite clear that I've never stated that all defense attorneys suck, or - the words you orginally put in my mouth - that defendants are not entitled to representation.
Gwyka 1 month ago
@TheGreatgirl3 The orginal comment was posted before Segal passed away. He lost this case - big time.
Gwyka 4 months ago
so was his wife blood on the pajama top?
ad8369 8 months ago
@ad8369 Yes, in large quantities. Also, analysis showed that Colette's blood was on the pj top before it was torn, further disproving MacDonald's story.
jksonny 8 months ago 2
@jksonny Ok seriously. You can' tell if there was blood on something BEFORE it was torn!!!!
singpraise247 1 month ago
@singpraise247 Yes you can tell when something has been stained with blood before being torn. If you take the torn pieces and put the item back together and the edges of the stain match perfectly - as was done in this case with the pajama top pocket.
Gwyka 1 month ago
Stokeley was just inserting herself into the story. Some people are so pathetic, they'll do that.
gotch09 1 year ago 3
@gotch09 You're right. Helena was just desperate for attention and her "confessions" are a joke. They vary widely, they don't match the crime scene, and they don't even match MacDonald's version of events.
jksonny 1 year ago 4
I wonder why he stabbed his wife after he threw the top over her.
stackleft 1 year ago
@stackleft He was probably trying to explain why it was so bloody. Later, when he stabbed her with the icepick, he either forgot about the top (it was very dark) or simply figured it wouldn't matter.
jksonny 1 year ago
@stackleft he was also out of his mind!
kfag101 1 year ago
@stackleft he messed up!!
kfag101 1 year ago
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@stackleft to kill her ? i think look at michelle obama; she is the worlds most hideously disfigured ape, and she hates whiteys !
ihateyoujerkoff 1 year ago
@ihateyoujerkoff you're a troll. michelle obama's asshole looks better than your girlfriends face. lol.
stackleft 1 year ago 2
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@ihateyoujerkoff obama is the anti christ
kfag101 1 year ago
does anyone else find him really good looking? i feel so wrong saying that but if i saw that man on the street and seeing how hardworking he was etc, i wouldnt even know. that's the scary part.
bellacinderellakk 1 year ago 3
@bellacinderellakk he was hot
kfag101 1 year ago
evil man!
kfag101 1 year ago
Stokeley was a pathetic, loser, seeking attention.
animalliberation0961 2 years ago 15
@animalliberation0961 And she wasn't as pathetic as MacDonald was...
stevepwood 1 year ago 8