Horses, Chariots, & Elephants in the Book of Mormon

[LDS4Life71]

Our information about the form of the Book of Mormon originally comes

from statements in two letters that Professor Charles Anthon wrote

years after Martin Harris came to him with a sample of the exotic

writing that Joseph Smith had copied off the "gold plates." What he

was shown, Anthon said, was "singular characters . . . arranged and

placed in perpendicular columns, and the whole ended in a rude

delineation of a circle, divided into various compartments, arched

with various strange marks."

[LDS4Life71]

Spaniards noted (but only in documents that Joseph

Smith could not have known about) that large numbers of native books—

many held in great reverence as sacred records—were in use when they

arrived in Mexico in the early sixteenth century. Archaeologist

Michael Coe believes "there must have been thousands of such books in

Classic times" (generally AD 300—900).2 Only four have been preserved

from the Maya zone. But in the 1820s not even the experts knew about

these Mesoamerican books.

[LDS4Life71]

The very idea that large numbers of books were written and preserved

in any ancient American culture was also contrary to the notion

universally held by literate and rustic citizens of the United States

that the "Indians" were only "savages." The writer in Helaman 3:15

tells of "many books and many records of every kind" among his people

in the first century BC, some kept by the Lamanites but a majority by

Nephites. They had been "handed down from one generation to

another"

[LDS4Life71]

although nobody at that time could make

much sense of it. Nothing suggested by Humboldt sheds any real light

on native American written documents nor relates to the Book of

Mormon. Besides, the chance is vanishingly small that the learned

German's esoteric work would have been accessible anywhere in America

except at a handful of the best libraries on the Atlantic seaboard, to

which Joseph had no access before the Book of Mormon was published.

[LDS4Life71]

t the time Smith lived, the only Mesoamerican object anything like a

codex that had been described in an English-language source was the

Aztec "calendar stone." It was pictured in a book by Humboldt

published in 1814 in London,

[LDS4Life71]

great video. The book of Mormon is 100% true

[kramd1]

these elephants are dwarf mammoths on an Island off Alaska. Next they will be saying Zarahemla is off the baring straights.

[GohModley]

Chariots are mentioned in both Alma and 3 Nephi. That man lied via ommission, a common LDS sin. I should know, I'm still a member and have been for nearly 30 years.

[lyrical77]

your guys are lying through your teeth.

[GohModley]

you would too if you were paid to. oh wait that's FARMS.

[TrueSaintsLDS]

75 I know, O LORD, that thy judgments are right, and that thou in faithfulness hast afflicted me.

76 Let, I pray thee, thy merciful kindness be for my comfort, according to thy word unto thy servant.

77 Let thy tender mercies come unto me, that I may LIVE: for thy law is my delight.

Psalm 119

[TrueSaintsLDS]

16 And thus mercy can satisfy the demands of justice, and encircles them in the arms of safety, while he that exercises no faith unto repentance is exposed to the whole law of the demands of justice; therefore only unto him that has faith unto repentance is brought about the great and eternal plan of redemption.

Alma 34:16

[AntiCitizenX]

Wrangle Island? Is that supposed to be profound? There were elephants in INDIA, too. Should we count those, too?

Do these guys ever think of the word "academic honesty" when they do research? Or do they just prefer to make crap up?

[jaysonvalentine]

Everything in Mormonism is made up.

[Bidimus1]

for those not wanting to google it.. wrangle island is part of Alaska.

[TrueChurchLDS]

Peter 3:18-19

While Jesus Christ's body was in the tomb, Jesus innaugerated teachers to preach the true gospel that all might recieve it.

until the 4th century the macceans practiced baptisms for the dead.

1 Corinthians 15:29 Else what shall we do if the dead rise not all, why then are they then baptized for the dead?

RESURRECTION Definition : the reuniting forever of the body and the spirit, becoming one, whole, complete and immortal. That is free

[Bidimus1]

key word they.. not we.

[TrueChurchLDS]

And there was a breakdown from Within and from without the Original Church, the apostles couldn't replace the spots fast enough as the people around them were not ready to accept the truth in their day either and the Apostles were killed by wickedness.

Like any structure with no foundation the original church fell into darkness and interpretation of men.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, Isaiah 60:2, Amos 8:11

Restoration ?

Isaiah 29:14, Acts 3:21, Revelations 14:6-7 all of Daniel Chapter 2

[Bidimus1]

Jude 1:16These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.

J.smith may 26, 1844

I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I.

I stand with Jude

[hilariofalcon]

I dont think the people in this video believed what they were saying. They made no sense. No serious archeologist outside of BYU would ever consider concurring with them on what they just tried to pass on, on this video. Sorry guys but try again. Archeology disproves you.

[TrueChurchLDS]

1 Nephi. 9: 16

16 And assuredly, as the Lord liveth, for the Lord God hath spoken it, and it is his eternal word, which cannot pass away, that they who are righteous shall be righteous still, and they who are filthy shall be filthy still; wherefore, they who are filthy are the devil and his angels; and they shall go away into everlasting fire, prepared for them; and their torment is as a lake of fire and brimstone, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever and has no end.

True video

[hilariofalcon]

Actually acoording to Mormon doctrine no human except apostate Mormons go to OUTER DARKNESS. Everybody else gets to go to one of three Heavens, right? WRONG! Jesus is the only door!

[TrueChurchLDS]

Yet there is still HELL PRIOR to the final judgement for all Wicked. You obviously haven't read the scriptures nor understand them.

I suggest you go back to LDSdotOrg and read the definition of HELL.

[TrueChurchLDS]

and the Great Jehovah shall say "It is done!"

[hilariofalcon]

Actually my King James Bible gives me all I need to know. The wicked go to hell and await the White Throne Judgement where they will be thrown into the Lake of Fire. It is given to man to die ONCE and then judgement. There is no baptism for the dead that can get you out of hell. I have studied about Gehenna, Sheol, Tartarus, Abrahams Bosom. The bible is unchanged and the BOM has had over 3000 changes since 1830. Don't believe me? Find a BOM just 20 yrs. old and see for yourself.

[TrueChurchLDS]

Ok great well let's open it up then.  let's open our bibles.

[TrueChurchLDS]

The correct baptism for EVERY individual on the PLANET that lived to gain a knowlegde of good and evil or a conscience will require the Correct baptism by IMMERSION by one holding the authrority from Jesus Christ.

the Church of Jesus christ performs the baptisms for the dead and is the exact restoration of the exact church Jesus christ attempted to set up during His great ministry.

built upon a foundation of apostles and prophets Ephesians 2:20 the early christians were put to death.

[TrueChurchLDS]

Peter 3:18-19

While Jesus Christ's body was in the tomb, Jesus innaugerated teachers to preach the true gospel that all might recieve it.

until the 4th century the macceans practiced baptisms for the dead.

1 Corinthians 15:29 Else what shall we do if the dead rise not all, why then are they then baptized for the dead?

RESURRECTION Definition : the reuniting forever of the body and the spirit, becoming one, whole, complete and immortal. That is free

[TrueChurchLDS]

verse 20 of 1st. peter chap 3 talks bout all the spirits that waited to hear the gospel of jesus Christ since the day of the great flood so they use their agency to accept it or not. The like figure (AGE) whereunto baptism doth now save us, that is 8 souls.

But c'mon Every knee will bow, every tongue shall confess this about jesus?. Does it not say this?

How could a muslim, buddist, taoist, evolutionist, ect ect ect every be included in that wording if it were not true?

LDSdotORG

[Bidimus1]

"restored" in this case means copied from the masons, who had made up, with their own false claims to being ancient often with pretended links to the knights templar.

[slu2com]

I made a response to this video

youtube. com/watch?v=ksXbyIW-0T4

[endofus]

Secret handshakes are for boys tree houses, not eternal salvation.