Surefire Kroma

[mlgprotipsy]

@88warwolf stop dickriding you faggot surefire fanbitch.

[88warwolf]

i can't afford to go buy a ferrari at the moment but that doesn't mean people who can are idiots that don't know how to manage their money. my advice.....drop the commie union worker bullshit. get a real education, real job and surround yourself with good honest hard working conservatives. then you can enjoy the benefits that come with it instead of spreading your misery on the internet.

[88warwolf]

i should just let this go but people like you are the reason why people like me are elitist bigoted assholes. nearly every single encounter i have with someone in your social economic class is a negative one. you're the reason why the rich hate the poor. you guys think you're victims of wealthy people but the truth is that you are just so stupid and quick to start a fight and mentally unstable. i simply put out a piece of advice for real people and you throw a fit because you cant afford it

[TheGLK2008]

@88warwolf Yea you should just let it go about how "poor people" operate. I myself am poor, but I'm young and am in school for the real jobs. However, people in general don't like advise and are often taught to not accept it, because of the saying "Good judgement comes from bad judgement".. I agree with what your trying to display, but honestly, it's either not going to be heard, or people have their own opinion.

[88warwolf]

enjoy your poor people guns and hobbies. i'm getting ready for a night vision shoot. adios

[88warwolf]

i watched some of your videos. you are a typical loud mouthed angry poor union worker. you seem very unstable. typical for your social economic class.

[88warwolf]

i win

[88warwolf]

and just for the record to set your goofy ass straight. if someone takes their self defense seriously and has the money to buy top notch weapons, weapons accessories, gear and training that does not automatically make them a mall ninja. you simply can't afford to do those things so you have to make fun of those that can to make you feel better about yourself. we aren't going to get rid of our top of the line weapons and gear to make some poor person on the internet feel better about them self

[88warwolf]

yep i was right. just checked your channel. a poor person with poor people guns.

[88warwolf]

me on the other hand.....my life and my girls life is worth enough to me to buy only the finest weapons and gear. you get what you pay for applies to everything. enjoy your DPMS and budget lights.

[nirvanero85]

lol 50.0 lumens / 1.5 hours

nice battery time. that light suxs..

[Adrianb760]

Very nice

[chobbit1lc]

Buying a Surefire light is like buying an American made tv. I always try to buy American, but when it comes to electronics, it just doesn't make sense. The technology is just to far behind. Thats just the honest truth. 50 Lumins SUCKS!

Its like buying a fancy car with no engine. I am not a Surefire hater, they just don't perform. Thats just a sad fact.

[GearBuyersGuide]

@chobbit1lc

looking at a light made for pilots and comparring it to one made for max lumins is a waste of time since they are for different needs / uses

and making a decision on that comparrison is not real smart IMO

[88warwolf]

@chobbit1lc surefire is so far beyond any other flash light manufacturer that you cant even compare them to anything else. the only reason to not buy a surefire is if you cant afford one. especially when it comes to weapon lights. i wouldn't even consider putting anything except for surefire weapon lights on any of my guns. everything else is a toy in comparison.

[DaytonaRoadster]

@88warwolf oh thats bullshit, Fenix and NiteCore make superior lights at least cost, they only reason people buy them is name recognition by mall ninjas

[88warwolf]

@DaytonaRoadster i'm sorry you can't afford it. the mall ninja comment is very ironic, considering the only people that are going to agree with you are barfcom losers that live in poor people housing.

[DaytonaRoadster]

@88warwolf Im sorry your retarded, to think i'm dumb enough to waste my money on over priced crap, i spend my money wisely, head back to call of duty child

[88warwolf]

@DaytonaRoadster we are completely different people in different social economic classes that own weapons for entirely different reasons. i'm a business owner with a great life. i don't own guns for the novelty of it or for a hobby. i own weapons to defend my life and the life of my woman or any other innocent people out in public from the mentally ill, drug addicted unstable poor. call up some real real training facilities and ask them if surefire is over priced junk for "mall ninjas".

[88warwolf]

i have come to realize that the youtube "gun community" for the MOST PART consists of lower income gun hobbyists that own guns for the novelty and fun of it. they review low end knock off weapon related accessories and give eachother high fives for saving money and buying inferior products. i'm an economist. but when it comes to my personal protection and the defense of my woman money is no object to me. a mall ninja is a goofy poor nerd that owns cheap guns loaded with knock off accessories

[DaytonaRoadster]

@88warwolf go check the firearms on my channel, and see what kind of 'lower' income guns i own, and LWRC AR-15, a Gewher Works AK-74...and think again. I spend money on quality when its needed, i own a surefire light, and its inferoir to my nitcore light

[den9]

@chobbit1lc

my surefire e2d is american made but has asian made led components.

[soaper1]

@chobbit1lc Please look at the Surefire L2D LED defender 200lumens please, then you can feel free to compare them. Like he said, there's no point to compare a light that is made for dark places such as pilots in a cockpit.

[roguebama]

@soaper1 I agree, the L2D LED is an outstanding light. I've got 2 of them.

[MajorDDS]

Surefire, great flashlight. I own two different Surefire's, both went to Iraq on two different deployments. They work great!

[mlgprotipsy]

like all surefires.......overpriced as shit

[GearBuyersGuide]

@mlgprotipsy

Like most surefire haters.. offering an opinion for no reason other than to complain

[mlgprotipsy]

@GearBuyersGuide as an example for an edc light. surefire e2d led defender. 200 bucks for 200 lumens with 2 settings. olight m21 warrior. 150 bucks for 500 lumens with 4 output modes INCLUDING strobe. maybe i did not mean overpriced because surefire lights are extremely well build. they are just poor value compared to other offerings.

[GearBuyersGuide]

@mlgprotipsy

I suggest you place value on number of functions, while others including myself place value on construction

[mlgprotipsy]

@GearBuyersGuide i place my value on a flashlight as an entire, operational, fully featured and fully functional too. i want a light that is well made and has useful features, AND is reasonably priced. surefire can do quality but NOT features and price.

[GearBuyersGuide]

@mlgprotipsy

I don't agree.

It's like you want lots of features on a police car, but you are willing to settle on putting those features in a compact import car..

I am willing to pay more for a full size car made here with strong parts, and only the needed features that will work always work

[mlgprotipsy]

@GearBuyersGuide japanese cars are better than american cars. they are MUCH more reliable. MUCH more popular. better ALL AROUND. my point is that just because a light is MADE IN THE U.S.A does not make it better than an imported light. My olight is a higher quality light than any surefire i have ever handled and TRUST ME......i have handled a lot of surefire lights. by the way. most cars are not MADE in the US. they are ASSEMBLED THERE. i think all of this stuff against imports is racist.

[GearBuyersGuide]

@mlgprotipsy

OK you show your true colors

Calling someone a raciest because they want to see their fellow countrymen employed is not just wrong it's divisive. You are attempting to bring political issues into a financial / technical discussion.

it seems you are NOT interested in the gear nearly as much as you are into voicing your opinion.. this is no longer a discussion it seems more like a stage for you to complain about a company that has done nothing but produce good lights

[mlgprotipsy]

@GearBuyersGuide i am not attempting to do any such thing. i mis-spoke. What i meant is people do not put enough faith in foreign industry. just because something is MADE IN CHINA does not mean it is an inferior product. tha Chinese can mass produce anything for cheaper than anyone and possibly do it better some people. maybe i did not state it clearly when i started flaming. Surefireis in no way a BAD brand. i am just saying that they are not at the top of the industry as they used to be. :)

[Drewskie50]

Just to let you know in a survival situation you want something that is simple. Simple things always work better. Why do you think compasses, flint and strikers and fixed blade knifes are still around. there are many variations of things but, they do one job and do it well and hardly ever fail. Carry your flashlight with all the gizmos. ill be the one lighting your way when the world ends. Also go buy a mag-lite if your gonna complain about price. Bet you don't buy 10 dollar shoes from walmart.

[mlgprotipsy]

@Drewskie50 i have a maglite :)

[bonerman115]

My M3 combat light survived an IED explosion while in afghanistan.....needless to say best 400 dollars ive spent

[alfabravo98]

too much money for not enough output

[GearBuyersGuide]

@alfabravo98

are you a pilot? what would you use this for?

[Durwood71]

@starbuck680 "I had flashlights that only cost a few dollars that you could throw against the wall & it would still work." I doubt it.

[Durwood71]

@starbuck680 When you buy a Surefire light, what you get is a solidly built flashlight that will take whatever abuse you can dish out and keep on working. Drop a Surefire from a height of 30-feet and you can pick it up and keep right on using it. Drop a Coast light from a height of 30-feet and you'll be picking up the pieces. Surefire also has topnotch support and will repair or replace a light that has stopped working for any reason at no cost to the consumer. And that's why it costs $300.

[555222444999]

well how much would the flashlight you show in this video cost

[GearBuyersGuide]

I forget, but I think in the $300 area

[555222444999]

how much would the flashlight with the white/blue/red leds cost

[GearBuyersGuide]

I don't think that is an option

[protectionanddefense]

Thanks!!!

[GearBuyersGuide]

no prob, this is a cool ight, I'll take any excuse to play with it