so what, new information was not added, some unicelular organisms can join with other cells and form colonies, but that is thanks to preexisting mechanisms. random mutations where not needed.
what´s next? are you going to say that catapilars evolved in to butterflies?
@Answerquestions1 One thing I've always been curious about; how do you measure the amount of information in an organism? What units of measurement and what methods do you use to establish such a thing?
@Answerquestions1 I see, so the amount of functional genesis equal to the amount of information. So a grain of rice does indeed contain more information than a human being. That seems rather strange to me, since it doesn't have much to do with the complexity of the body.
To be honest, I'm glad to see you off of Genesis. This atheist can only take so much. Your voice and manner are well suited to critiques like this one.
Great vid, and very fascinating research. I'm so glad you made this video, as it's a very interesting topic (not to mention clubbing the living piss out of Juby)
saccharomyces cerevisiae and I are on good terms :-)
The Gravitational Selection experiment is very exciting. Far from being the end all explanation for single to multi cell. But, it does bust the door open for future research in that area.
Best part of the experiment was that when a cluster of cells would grow a conjoined set of cells. Then the cells in the middle would voluntarily die so the new organism could become independent.
My first thought was that the creatards are going to shit when they find out this thing reproduced after it's kind.
I suspect Juby is actually Oliver Hardy. If you remember in 'Stan and Ollie Go To Berkeley', Ollie was clowning around with his tie and generally being a twat when he slipped on a scientific formula and tumbled inside the Egghead Department's time-machine. His final destination was never known...
But now I suspect Ollie was beamed forwards in time and space to The Discovery Institute in 1999.
"Macro-evolution!?! Macro-evolution!?! Whaddya mean Macro-evolution? Why I oughta... Mmph."
Excellent point, but I found the "Winner" of the Evolution Pwnage contest to be even more funny. The guy directly lifts Plantinga's (very poor) argument wholesale, admits it, does not add anything to it, and he wins?! The kid with the helicopter was at least funny to laugh at, as an absurd strawman.
Sure, the winning video wasn't plagiarism per say, but there is a lack of intellectual rigor involved. Hmmmm.... Lack of intellectual rigor + creationist. Oh, I take it back. No wonder he won!
At 12:41, isn't that a striped hyena in the middle? Hyenas are not even canines! Leave it to Crockoduck hunter, Ian Juby and his cronies to say other wise! They get such a hard on for "kinds"! If animals kinda-sorta look alike...they are of the same "kind" sorta!
Creatard logic....gotta love it! LOL
Great video Paul! I am always happy to see people like Juby boy, lassoed and brought back into reality. ; )
Creationism is the result of 2,000 years selective attention during which time anyone who had the gall to ask a searching question was immediately stoned to death or burned at the stake whilst those who believed in fairy tales were encouraged to go forth and multiply.
@paulchartley LOL. Perhaps I should have said 'divide', unfortunately neither really has the slap they deserve. Maybe I should have been more to the point and just said 'go forth and kill the unbelievers'.
@paulchartley I'd just like to add that after they had multiplied a lot, they divided (into roughly 38,000 denominations). This does not in any way subtract from your earlier statement.
It's good how you square up to the creationists and get to the root of the issue. Easily done, when you're willing to do the math.
@evilyakko That's right, they are felines that just happen to both look and behave like canines.
If you only have variation within the kinds and the ancestors of all animals alive today came off a boat in northern turkey and hyper-evolved into all the species we have today then how and why did a cat kind of animal evolve into a dog kind of animal.
Some creationists might just consider it to be what they think of as a transitional species!
I just found out about this walking blob a little earlier. If people trust this classical salesman for science issues, then they might as well get crackheads for baby sitters. How can anyone trust such charachters, they smell fraudulence. I was watching a video where he claims, that what Evolution says is that Princes turn to Frogs, as part of his arguments for 6 year old kids. Propaganda child abuser. Who the fuck, would trust the common sense of a 6 year old about Science? Rip him apart paul!
@ONESPECIES You need to look up how conservapedia got started. Andrew Schlafly, the guy who owns it got his home-school students to write a good number of the articles.
Obviously a 14yr old school kid is a better authority on matters of science than someone who has studied the subject at hand to a high level at university and beyond.
As you would expect, many of the science subjects on there involve participation by Jesus in some way
I love reading conservapedia just for the epic fail
Awesome. Loved the pie gag. I'm contemplating addressing one of Mr. Boobie's vids too, mainly for the unlimited potential for cheeseburger and doughnut jokes. This also made me wonder. If you stuck a population of creationists in a room and then only selected the ones who didn't eat their own bogies, do you think they would evolve intelligence?
His weekly show is a goldmine with something new to debunk every Thursday.
If you put half the creationists who comment on his videos in a room together the ones that didn't eat their own bogies would probably be eating eat others.
Although I call him Indiana Juby he's really more of a Marcus Brody in that he's a bit of a fuckwit who runs a museum.
@WildwoodClaire1 I got a bit behind on this one and so I am trying to catch up so hopefully there will be another episode aimed in his direction addressing last weeks episode in the next few days.
Awesome video, & I've learnt something about evolutionary theory that puzzled me; namely how single celled organisms evolved into multi-cellular organisms. How can anyone still believe in creationism when there is so much clear evidence for evolution & much of it presented in a way that even a lay-person with just a secondary level of education (such as myself) can understand, baffles me!
@Nilsy1975 The interesting thing about this experiment is that itfocuses on specific selection criteria, namely gravity. It's truly fascinating! :D With respect to the education level for understanding it is the joy of science that most of it is accessible to anyone willing to do even the most basic research, it is one of the reasons why I love it so much. And sure enough some fields require a degree of mind-bending math, but the beauty of evolution is its simplicity. :D
Yes, Jube is an idiot, but I have to play devil's advocate here. His argument that the centrifuge may have contributed to the multicellularity seems to be a valid objection IF the researchers didn't have a non-centrifuged control to compare it to. I'm sure they did, but you didn't mention it.
@Astrobrant2 Juby is even more deceptive on this aspect than any other. I skipped this bit as it went off on a tangent that he only touched on briefly with his main rant being about the centrifuge but the centrifuge was only used in one part of the experiment.
Another more significant part investigates settling rates where a centrifuge is not used at all because they varying the settling times so they could investigate the trade off between settling time and multicellular selection rates
so what, new information was not added, some unicelular organisms can join with other cells and form colonies, but that is thanks to preexisting mechanisms. random mutations where not needed.
what´s next? are you going to say that catapilars evolved in to butterflies?
Answerquestions1 1 week ago
@Answerquestions1 One thing I've always been curious about; how do you measure the amount of information in an organism? What units of measurement and what methods do you use to establish such a thing?
wasneeplus 6 days ago
@wasneeplus
new functional genes = new information
Answerquestions1 6 days ago
@Answerquestions1 I see, so the amount of functional genesis equal to the amount of information. So a grain of rice does indeed contain more information than a human being. That seems rather strange to me, since it doesn't have much to do with the complexity of the body.
wasneeplus 6 days ago
You rock Paul!
Keep up the good work!
odinata 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Pie bit at the end killed me. You sir, are awesome of the highest order!
Blackjack030190 3 weeks ago
raped, raped and raped. I'd like to subject this creatard to about 30 g's, followed by a sudden stop.
psycho3968 3 weeks ago
To be honest, I'm glad to see you off of Genesis. This atheist can only take so much. Your voice and manner are well suited to critiques like this one.
Ilicium 3 weeks ago in playlist Indiana Juby
Great vid, and very fascinating research. I'm so glad you made this video, as it's a very interesting topic (not to mention clubbing the living piss out of Juby)
saccharomyces cerevisiae and I are on good terms :-)
SiriusMined 3 weeks ago
@SiriusMined Schizosaccharomyces pombe kicks cerevisiae's butt.
TheLivingDinosaur 3 weeks ago
@TheLivingDinosaur
AHAHAHAA
SiriusMined 3 weeks ago
The Gravitational Selection experiment is very exciting. Far from being the end all explanation for single to multi cell. But, it does bust the door open for future research in that area.
Best part of the experiment was that when a cluster of cells would grow a conjoined set of cells. Then the cells in the middle would voluntarily die so the new organism could become independent.
My first thought was that the creatards are going to shit when they find out this thing reproduced after it's kind.
xdassinx 3 weeks ago
So gravity wins again. Amazing!
TheHydrogen4 3 weeks ago
@TheHydrogen4 It's just a theory!
tctheunbeliever 3 weeks ago
very nice, thanks for the instruction and the laugh.
rollofnickles 3 weeks ago
So much awesome in this video:
Pwnage, an observed instance of *major* evolutionary change, and the cat-kind dog-kind conundrum as cherry on top.
Thanks and take care
akylae101 3 weeks ago
I suspect Juby is actually Oliver Hardy. If you remember in 'Stan and Ollie Go To Berkeley', Ollie was clowning around with his tie and generally being a twat when he slipped on a scientific formula and tumbled inside the Egghead Department's time-machine. His final destination was never known...
But now I suspect Ollie was beamed forwards in time and space to The Discovery Institute in 1999.
"Macro-evolution!?! Macro-evolution!?! Whaddya mean Macro-evolution? Why I oughta... Mmph."
USERNAMEfieldempty 3 weeks ago
Juby is becoming a bit of a laughing stock.
Ansonidak 3 weeks ago
@Ansonidak becoming? He passed that milestone long ago.
globalfraud 3 weeks ago
I am so embarrassed that Juby is Canadian.
thefusilier1000 3 weeks ago
Excellent point, but I found the "Winner" of the Evolution Pwnage contest to be even more funny. The guy directly lifts Plantinga's (very poor) argument wholesale, admits it, does not add anything to it, and he wins?! The kid with the helicopter was at least funny to laugh at, as an absurd strawman.
Sure, the winning video wasn't plagiarism per say, but there is a lack of intellectual rigor involved. Hmmmm.... Lack of intellectual rigor + creationist. Oh, I take it back. No wonder he won!
balanceseeker 3 weeks ago
Awesome!
MoveOrder 3 weeks ago
At 12:41, isn't that a striped hyena in the middle? Hyenas are not even canines! Leave it to Crockoduck hunter, Ian Juby and his cronies to say other wise! They get such a hard on for "kinds"! If animals kinda-sorta look alike...they are of the same "kind" sorta!
Creatard logic....gotta love it! LOL
Great video Paul! I am always happy to see people like Juby boy, lassoed and brought back into reality. ; )
FishHeadSalad 3 weeks ago
Young earth creationism is the result of there being no selective pressures on the christian population.
no2religions 3 weeks ago 19
@no2religions I suppose that's almost a good argument for introducing lions into North America
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paulchartley 3 weeks ago 20
@paulchartley As a lion, I approve of this message.
nuclearlion 3 weeks ago
@paulchartley
You know, Louis C.K. said the exact same thing in a guest spot on Letterman. :D
thantrus 3 weeks ago
@paulchartley I don't think they were a threatened species in Roman times. Maybe we can learn from the past.
tctheunbeliever 3 weeks ago
@paulchartley i'm afraid it wouldn't work: we tried it in italy, and now we have the bloody vatican.
try cloning velociraptors, and let's see how the simians, kent ham&pals, manage around the little adorable killing machine.
theVulcanGuy 2 weeks ago in playlist Indiana Juby
Creationism is the result of 2,000 years selective attention during which time anyone who had the gall to ask a searching question was immediately stoned to death or burned at the stake whilst those who believed in fairy tales were encouraged to go forth and multiply.
ritchloui 3 weeks ago 5
@ritchloui there is nothing wrong with telling creationists to go forth and multiply
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paulchartley 3 weeks ago
@paulchartley LOL. Perhaps I should have said 'divide', unfortunately neither really has the slap they deserve. Maybe I should have been more to the point and just said 'go forth and kill the unbelievers'.
ritchloui 3 weeks ago
@paulchartley I'd just like to add that after they had multiplied a lot, they divided (into roughly 38,000 denominations). This does not in any way subtract from your earlier statement.
It's good how you square up to the creationists and get to the root of the issue. Easily done, when you're willing to do the math.
I'll get my coat.
TychoCelchu 3 weeks ago
@paulchartley I'd rather multiply in Fortran
moestietabarnak 3 weeks ago in playlist u
Hyenas arn't dogs lol. so no.
evilyakko 3 weeks ago
@evilyakko That's right, they are felines that just happen to both look and behave like canines.
If you only have variation within the kinds and the ancestors of all animals alive today came off a boat in northern turkey and hyper-evolved into all the species we have today then how and why did a cat kind of animal evolve into a dog kind of animal.
Some creationists might just consider it to be what they think of as a transitional species!
paulchartley 3 weeks ago
Mmmm, pie.
SpectatorCrow 3 weeks ago
i looked up mensa and he's not even in it... anywhere
SANHEDRIN666 3 weeks ago
@SANHEDRIN666 Check again, he's got to be in it!
Ian surely wouldn't lie about his qualification.
He might lie about most everything else but not his mensa membership
paulchartley 3 weeks ago
I love the ending.
And that stuff that came before it. The... content of the video, that's it.
Eminemno1fan 3 weeks ago
I have to say, that was an extreme strawman of Juby's position.
I mean... PIE? Everyone knows Ian doesn't eat pie -- he eats cake!
Of course, the cake too is a lie, but that's beside the point.
firefly4f4 3 weeks ago
WTF is wrong with YT???? For the last few days, videos simply WILL NOT LOAD!!!!
ciaochowbella 3 weeks ago
I just found out about this walking blob a little earlier. If people trust this classical salesman for science issues, then they might as well get crackheads for baby sitters. How can anyone trust such charachters, they smell fraudulence. I was watching a video where he claims, that what Evolution says is that Princes turn to Frogs, as part of his arguments for 6 year old kids. Propaganda child abuser. Who the fuck, would trust the common sense of a 6 year old about Science? Rip him apart paul!
ONESPECIES 3 weeks ago
@ONESPECIES You need to look up how conservapedia got started. Andrew Schlafly, the guy who owns it got his home-school students to write a good number of the articles.
Obviously a 14yr old school kid is a better authority on matters of science than someone who has studied the subject at hand to a high level at university and beyond.
As you would expect, many of the science subjects on there involve participation by Jesus in some way
I love reading conservapedia just for the epic fail
paulchartley 3 weeks ago
Awesome. Loved the pie gag. I'm contemplating addressing one of Mr. Boobie's vids too, mainly for the unlimited potential for cheeseburger and doughnut jokes. This also made me wonder. If you stuck a population of creationists in a room and then only selected the ones who didn't eat their own bogies, do you think they would evolve intelligence?
TheLivingDinosaur 3 weeks ago
@TheLivingDinosaur PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!!!!
I'd adore to see what you do with this eejit's vids.
ciaochowbella 3 weeks ago
@TheLivingDinosaur Maybe those that start eating brains will.
ONESPECIES 3 weeks ago
@TheLivingDinosaur How nutritious are bogies anyway? Any Nature paper on that?
KaroKoenich 3 weeks ago
@TheLivingDinosaur Oh please do, that would be epic.
His weekly show is a goldmine with something new to debunk every Thursday.
If you put half the creationists who comment on his videos in a room together the ones that didn't eat their own bogies would probably be eating eat others.
Although I call him Indiana Juby he's really more of a Marcus Brody in that he's a bit of a fuckwit who runs a museum.
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paulchartley 3 weeks ago
@paulchartley I wouldn't be surprised if he's also gotten lost in his own museum.
Great video.
TheScienceFoundation 3 weeks ago
Mmmm, selective bread.
evilmiera 3 weeks ago
Always a pleasant wake-up when I find one of your delightful pwnage videos in my inbox.
WildwoodClaire1 3 weeks ago
@WildwoodClaire1 I got a bit behind on this one and so I am trying to catch up so hopefully there will be another episode aimed in his direction addressing last weeks episode in the next few days.
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paulchartley 3 weeks ago
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WildwoodClaire1 3 weeks ago
Indiana Juby! Hahaha!
Juicexlx 3 weeks ago
Another beautiful dissection of another example of attempted Creationist Kerplunk.
falchion49 3 weeks ago
who ate all the pies... Juby did
fuzlover 3 weeks ago
Awesome video, & I've learnt something about evolutionary theory that puzzled me; namely how single celled organisms evolved into multi-cellular organisms. How can anyone still believe in creationism when there is so much clear evidence for evolution & much of it presented in a way that even a lay-person with just a secondary level of education (such as myself) can understand, baffles me!
Nilsy1975 3 weeks ago
@Nilsy1975 The interesting thing about this experiment is that itfocuses on specific selection criteria, namely gravity. It's truly fascinating! :D With respect to the education level for understanding it is the joy of science that most of it is accessible to anyone willing to do even the most basic research, it is one of the reasons why I love it so much. And sure enough some fields require a degree of mind-bending math, but the beauty of evolution is its simplicity. :D
finitekosmos 3 weeks ago
If an idiot like Juby can qualify for MENSA then i am glad to have an IQ of 9.
pilgrimpater 3 weeks ago
@pilgrimpater hey are you just showing off to those of us whose IQ's are fractions?
jimthepleb 3 weeks ago
@jimthepleb Yes i am, dummy.
pilgrimpater 3 weeks ago
@pilgrimpater
Hehe.. An IQ below 20 would mean you are profound mentally retarded :P
ItsmeonY2 3 weeks ago
Yes, Jube is an idiot, but I have to play devil's advocate here. His argument that the centrifuge may have contributed to the multicellularity seems to be a valid objection IF the researchers didn't have a non-centrifuged control to compare it to. I'm sure they did, but you didn't mention it.
Astrobrant2 3 weeks ago
@Astrobrant2 Juby is even more deceptive on this aspect than any other. I skipped this bit as it went off on a tangent that he only touched on briefly with his main rant being about the centrifuge but the centrifuge was only used in one part of the experiment.
Another more significant part investigates settling rates where a centrifuge is not used at all because they varying the settling times so they could investigate the trade off between settling time and multicellular selection rates
paulchartley 3 weeks ago
@Astrobrant2 Your point is significant and so I have amended the info in the info box to address this issue.
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paulchartley 3 weeks ago
bloody brilliant :D
wounduppenguin 3 weeks ago in playlist Indiana Juby
Great video once again!
Sincerely, thank you...
markotark 3 weeks ago