its not really fair. i use amd btw. the amd solution uses a proper gpu where intel has never really made intergrated graphics and has assumed people will run discret cards. APUs at this price range are cleary the way to go.
@sexking83 I'll have you know sir that I am not trolling at all, to the contrary. In reality, I want people to listen to your statement because it has merit. Unfortunately that was the cleverest thing I could think of to say.
hi will this run games such as:arma 2, day of deafet source, counter strike source, left for dead both 1&2,garrysmod,crysis1, call of duty world at war, and team fortress 2? please answer it will greatly help
And now compare the power consumption, the AMD will loose with clearly so you get a faster APU but it also consumes double the power and gets hotter. And ifyou really want to play games like Battlefield 3, you don't use the integrated graphics, that's for Office-PCs and the AMD consumes way too much power for an Office-PC.
@48734A Not necessarily. The A8 is more power efficient than core i3 @ idle. At load its a different story. But office machines spend most of their time at near idle anyway so A8 could end up being more efficient in an office machine.
@48734A APU consumes half of i3 in idle, in laod is a shit, but in idle is much less, due to cool 'n' quiet technology, and as the computer spend the most of the time in idle, than APU is better
@BritishNathan@LeakyWicks can you show me some tests where the A8 is really consuming less power than the i3? All tests I can find show a maximum of 2 or 3 Watts that an i3 is consuming more in idle. But I didn't even know it only needs that little energy in idle :O
The i7 is out of the range for this AMD, AMD's run better than intels and faster only due to that they over heat alot faster thats a AMD side a effect. You can't compare this AMD to the i7 cause they are way apart for the price range and still the Zambezi is better than i7 sandstorm cause it runs at a faster pace.
@FellTheSky if you are getting a video card you dont need an APU. I recommend the Phenom II X4 955, its about U$140 and will give you better performance.
@Cidadd yes but thats a different price range and isnt relevant. the apus arnt using high end discret level gpus yet so the performance will be less. however when they do, they will be a real competitor to intels even highest level cpus . unless intel and nvidea get into bed togather. haha that would be a total outright waar
@LeakyWicks well yes, but the 540 was so low in price that i could not resist xD. although i ve overclocked to 4.2, and igota say it , its a beast (and 100% stable)
AMD is far better then Intel if you prefer price/value!
I have just built 2 pc for my friends. I told them to buy an AMD phenom II x4 965 because its more than enough to play every game on the highest settings.
Guys don't waste ur money on an extremly expensive cpu. Buy a 965 and an as powerful vga as you can!
so an A8 amd processor (4 cores, uses 100W, cheaply made) is better than an i3 (2cores, not a gaming cpu, 35W, perfect for working)...... what a great review this man made..... please next time make a video of an i5 vs the amd fx 8150...... yes an i5 will crush its soul.... i7 2600 wait wait the new i7 2700k is unreachable.... oh and dont compare the i7 990x.... fuck amd.... they cant do shit right they have terrible hyper threading.....
Well you could at least pop in a 50-100 dollars GPU in. As the AMD APU costs about 80 dollars more (at least here). OC'ing the Intel would probably make the CPU better than the Quad Core APU for gaming (with 80 dollars GPU).
@Hokrollo1 u cant overclock i3 Sandy-Bridge u retard, it's not unlocked, A8 is unlocked, it means more points to A8, and u need at least a 100 dollars GPU to compare it to A8 graphics. and you're wrong with price, go to amazon and search for A8 3870k this one is even better cuz have 3.0Ghz, its 160 USD now go to amazon and search for i3, its 140 USD, its 20 USD of difference you retard, and dont matter what u say to defend i3, i3 LOST to A8, search anywhere you want, any site, and admit it
@Hokrollo1 i3 is locked. Cant overclock. Adding a GPU would make your price for CPU&GPU go above $200 and for that much, it would still perform badly.
@Hokrollo1 you need at least a $80 GPU to compare it to the A8 graphics, and you can overclock it, but it isnt as good as it would with a unlocked multiplier, and you can easly overclock A8 to 3.3Ghz and its GPU too, with stock cooler making it really better and making need a $120 GPU on i3 to compare to its overclocked graphics
and both i3 and A8 cost exactly the same, as the guy said below, why are you going to spend $140 on i3 + $80 GPU = $220, when you can spend 140$ for a single one?
waste of time I don't really favor any side but if your comparing Intel HD and AMD graphics AMD obviously wins because they own a gaming division. What they should have done is test CS5, cpu intensive tasks and encoding video w/ handbreak! I personally am looking to get an amd GPU but am switching over to intel's ivy bridge if it's a good performance boost over sb!
The A8 makes for an epic budget gaming laptop... I own one. But it's kinda pointless it desktops, as it's really easy to get an $80 6670, stick it in a desktop, and beat an A8 with any CPU you have.
Intel IGP still sucks, nevertheless. There's no way to around it. None of you have lived with it: framerates are bad, but the freaking graphical glitches and lag spikes are even worse.
These apus sold SO well that amd has made $89 million PROFIT over them in first 3 months. NOT revenue. profit. so at least $200 million worth LLanos have been sold.
A lot of Intel fans fail to realize that if AMD dies, Intel will jack the price up to $1000 for every CPU; not just their high ends. Intel already jacked up the price for Xeons because of the bad Opteron release last year; please dont let that become the same for every market. Intel fans: You need AMD.
@Shayd93 AMD E-450 ($30) runs San Andreas on maximum detail. Intel Atom costs around $100 and can barely run it on medium, not to mention it cant even handle Windows Aero or 720p video without lagging.
@Shayd93 Thats a low-end atom. That would run it even lower. I'm talking about the highest-end Atom with the newest graphics. The $70 Atom has a graphics processor equivalent to a low-end GeForce from 2006 and a CPU equivalent to a Pentium 4.
If you compare it to the E-450 I mentioned earlier, the Atom has 1/3 the graphics power and equivalent CPU performance. FOR THE SAME PRICE.
@Shayd93 Getting the best Atom/Motherboard/Graphics combo that runs the same will cost you $170 from Intel, because they have to include nVidia ION to make it perform at non-pitiful levels. AMD can provide an E-450 that does pretty much the same thing fro around $60. Atom will NEVER be as good as a low-end APU.
"and another thing. The way this is marketed, its terrible. It makes it look like the i3 is trash compared to the A8, guarantee you put a discrete card in here and it will put the A8 to shame because the i3 is alot faster of processor than the A8 is processor side. So when someone is using a CPU only process, The i3 would be a much better option"
And how much more money does it take for the I3 to beat the A8 in gaming 60-80$ and it will use more power
This is a APU for those who doesnt have money to buy a good computer, so stop fucking comparing it to an i7 990x Extreme or saying "if you put a graphics card..." HELL, if you put a graphics card it will cost the double! this is for low-budget PCs.
Intel have the best High-End processor, we in AMD admit that, and respect that, but you need to admit that AMD have the best Mid-Range graphics processors.
thumbs up this comment so everyone see and stop fight
This video was about mobile. And trust me then, Nvidia is the way to go. My dual 570s smash anything AMD has out right now. Dual 570s way faster than dual 6970s. Plus PHYSX.
No its not you dumb fuck the 6950 cf is just as fast as the 570 sli. the 6970 in cf comes close to the 580 sli thinks to its higher scaling god YouTube users can be so dumb
Amd may not make the best processor but they do make the best APU. Intel makes great processors but shitty graphics. At least Amd can make Good processors(they can play any game Intel can and i know from experience who cares about pretty charts anyways) But intel can NOT make graphics that can game.
Like Amd said their are 2 companies that make x86/x64(Fuck via) processors and 2 companies that make high-end graphics but their is only 1 company that does both And that is AMD.
"So you are comparing the onboard graphics chipsets??? Ok then, my GT540M is faster than the A8's graphics cores and I get 4 hours of gaming on my laptop and 10 while on intel graphics."
Your a fucking liar you don't get 10 hours on the battery with that unless you have a 10-12 cell battery you dumb fuck so stop trolling. The A8 can out beat that setup when watching videos and normal tasks if the battery is the same.
"Crossfire has never scaled better than SLi, AMD's drivers are not as good thus why they push them out once a month vs Nvidias drivers which push them out every two months. "
Total BS the whole reason a 6990 is faster then a 590 is because of Amd better Performance/Watt and better CF performance. A 6950 in CF is even with a Gtx 570 sli. So what is your logic in that as soon as Amd took Ati over Ati kicked Nvidia's ass and they still are. The radeon 4000HD series kicked nvidia in the balls.
u know what amd should do? amd should make an a12 or a8 squared, they should make a apu soooo good that it will beat the current and future i7's. I wouldnt care if they hike up the price near intel, all i want is an apu that owns the i7
Alternative solution - actually use a proper graphics card - AMD is comparing them in what they are best at. I will admit, if you want graphics on the chip (no clue why you would want that), go with AMD. However, the best solution in my opinion is a intel chip with a seperate graphics card (AMD, not nvidia)
@MinecraftModder01 Why not Nvidia, I have yet to see a AMD GPU based laptop get more than 6 hours on single charge. My Intel i5 with Nvidia 540M/ Intel 3000 gpus using Optimus gets 10 hours on a single charge. And I can play Bf3 for about 4 hours off battery. So im curious to see whats wrong with Nvida. And my laptop was only 700 dollars and its less than a inch thin and its a 13in laptop. I fail to see your reasoning???
@MinecraftModder01 This video was about mobile. And trust me then, Nvidia is the way to go. My dual 570s smash anything AMD has out right now. Dual 570s way faster than dual 6970s. Plus PHYSX.
@bigrigross They're actually not faster. The 6970s have 2GB dedicated graphics. I know that memory isn't everything, but that's just 1 example of why I prefer it. Anyway, I said previously that you didn't need that. I have a single 5770, and right now I am doing 3d rendering with no lag. 2 570s are useless. It will never all get used up. Hell, even 1 570 is probably overkill for what you do. What do you do that actually stresses your GPU?
@MinecraftModder01 WHAT the amount of VRAM means nothing. Your still stuck with the slow 256bit memory bus vs my 380bit. A single 570 is 20% faster than a 6970, and I got that number from Anandtech and bittech and HARDOCP. Battlefield 3, metro 2033, and other games use it. Though i also run a 2560x1440 display which is the reason for it. I like my games well above 60FPS. But I do have a mini itx build with a core i3 2100 and a 5770 as well. Its a good backup while im rendering video or code
@bigrigross I can get well above 120FPS on most games with a single 5770 on 1080p maximum settings. I see no need for anything more. As a programmer, I like a fast computer, but I mainly go for CPU speed, as that's what gets used up (as a programmer, anyway). A 2500k oc'd to 4.6GHz gets me through anything I would need. The graphics card really doesn't matter when you get to that speed. After a single 570 you'd be better off getting an SSD, and a RAM upgrade, instead of a second one.
@MinecraftModder01 Yeah, pretty much, i know you on that one. I have a core i7 2600k and it makes my compiling go so much smoother. And I play all my games at max everything. The second 570 gets the job done with that. Though I cant play the witcher 2 on max :/ I payed a pretty penny for my rig. Its used for work and play so it was worth the money. I do use AutoCAD and Maya along with CS5. The videocards do most of my rendering so they are needed. I already have a 240GB SSD and 16GB of ram
@bigrigross Given what you do, that's fair enough, but for most people, they get something far better than what they will ever need, and I find it utterly ridiculous, for example, that the battlefield 3 "recommended specs" are a 6950, given that I can play it on maximum graphics with something half that powerful.
@MinecraftModder01 Yeah, thats the only reason I even have 2. Though having a 2560x1440 screen does push my cards for the most part. Though the reason I chose Nvidia over AMD was because of CUDA. My video renderer along with AutoCAD and Maya use my 570s to do everything in real time for the most part. Heck, I dont mind my little machine at all. The 5770 can sure kick but and the computer only weighs like 10 pounds and it makes it easy to carry.
@Lolimaster Crossfire has never scaled better than SLi, AMD's drivers are not as good thus why they push them out once a month vs Nvidias drivers which push them out every two months. I have never seen crossfire get above 85% scalability while my 570s get 95% in most games. What is it with people today, is their fanboyism clouding their use of google and looking at benchmarks. You guys are pathetic. Anandtech, HARDOCP, and Bittech did all of these benchmarks and no they dont trade punches.
@BritishNathan No, the A8 doesnt use 50% less power. The A8 3850 has a TDP of 100 watts. The Core i3 2100 (which is desktop) is 65 watts. The core i3 in this test is a mobile i3 with a TDP of 45 watts
@bigrigross Seeing as NVidia uses more power usually, and I just looked a bit into Laptop graphics by NVidia, they have a techology called "Optimus" but not on all of the cards, so depending on the GPU AMD usually has a better lifetime because they tend to use less power than NVidia cards.
and I believe your BATTERY might have something to do with that...jus sayin.
@timendo215 Its a 6 Cell Lithium Polymer on a a 13.3 in LED laptop. Nothing to special. It just knows how to save energy and no, Nvidia GPU's do not use more power, if anything the 500 series is very power efficient, yes the 400 series was terrible, but they did fix that and I get amazing battery life when gaming on the go.
@bigrigross Hm, I just looked back into NVidia Power consumption, you're definitely right they seem to have fixed it, but it does have slightly higher in their lower end models, but when AMD puts out their flagship that shit takes a lot of power.
Sorry for the mistake, I usually don't look into power consumption daily unless I'm looking to buy it.
@timendo215 Its no problem, but when I look for laptop gpu chips, efficiency is what I look at first. I almost did get a HP Envy with the 6850M in it but when I seen the battery life on my laptop when I shopped around, I pretty much didnt even think about grabbing this. Though it is an Acer, its actually a pretty good laptop surprisingly. Thin, light, powerful, and plays BF3 at medium at 40FPS. On my desktop 570s, boy do they take power, my kill-o-watt showed 700 watts on BF3 :/
"And oh, british nerd, AMD's getting biased, why would they compare it with i3? it was made a year ago, a8 was just this year. It's stupid and ridiculous, i3 isn't even good for a gaming rig. Why not try comparing their shit with the i7 extreme edition 980x?"
What a dumb ass compare processors and video cards. and by price Amd kills Intel not everyone can spend 600$ on a desktop you could build a A8 system for 400$ while A Intel plus a Amd(ha ha) or nvidia card will cost 100$ more.
So you are comparing the onboard graphics chipsets??? Ok then, my GT540M is faster than the A8's graphics cores and I get 4 hours of gaming on my laptop and 10 while on intel graphics. I fail to see a proper contest between these two. The core i3 was never meant to play games using the intel 2000 series gpu. All you amd people fishing for a win is a fail lol. This just shows that amd fails at gaming. Put a proper GPU in those setups, guarantee you the i3 2150 will win.
@Lolimaster Mine has never over heated little troll. My laptop stays below 70 degrees Celsius while playing Battlefield 3 on medium. So thank you very much. And again, i have yet to see a amd laptop go past 6 hours. Mine goes 10 while on integrated and 4 while playing BF3, and btw, i have a Acer Timeline X 3830TG with the i5 and the GT540m so shush your mouth you uninformed fanboy.
Usually when people accuse others of being a fanboy, they are themselves.
I'm a fan of whoever makes the best equipment I can afford, and it so happens that that's AMD I fucking love AMD, I can afford their shit, my Phenom II 955 was 111 dollars compared to a 2500k's 230, half the price, thank you very much, BF3 on Ultra, thank you very much.
@timendo215 And there he finally tells the truth haha. AMD's stuff isnt the best but it is cheap. I accuse you because I do have a 5770 in my backup rig and my old rig had 3 4890s in Crossfire and a 955 BE. But that was years ago. And you know what, a 955 is fine for gaming for the most part. But I just dont game, I use AutoCAD, Maya, CS5, compile, use render video. A 955 sucks at those things. Even there 6 core sucks at that. Thats why I use the 2600K is because its 7x faster.
@bigrigross OMG, why everyone here is so stupid, ok, let me say this once more: IF YOU PUT A FUCKING DAMNED GRAOHICS CARD IN THAT SHIT IT WILL COST THE DOUBLE OF THE ORIGINAL PRICE,M THIS IS A COMPUTER FOR WHO DOESNT HAVE FUCKING MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!
@bigrigross wait, I didnt understand... apples are better than orange or orange are better than apple? I prefer apple, and have people who prefer orange, its a question of taste.
Well, let me try to understand this... you're trying to say: "if A8 is really, really better than i3, why compare with it", right? well, answer is simple:
@BritishNathan Umm, as a processor though, the A8 is a very bad processor by itself. In computational task it would get owned by the i3. That is what I dont understand about this all. And all there is on that A8 is a 6630, a GT520 is equivalent to that and it uses 65 watts also. AMD has never been known for their power efficiency. I guarantee you my laptop uses less electricity and is more powerful than that A8 system, its only a i5 mobile and a gt540m. Sorry, discrete> apu
@bigrigross I dont fuckinh know what you didnt understand, I've said this about 100 times, Im going to say it for the 101st time: a i5 with a gt540 cost about 1,000 dollars, and if you dont ahev that money???? you have just 600 dollars, you BUY A A8. You understand now or I need to repeat? Im goint to repeat in other words:
OBVIOUSLY YOUR COMPUTER IS BETTER YOU RETARD, BUT IS NOT EVERYONE THAT CAN AFFORD IT!!!! A8 IS THE BEST LOW-BUDGET POSSIBLE COMPUTER
@BritishNathan oh and OBVIOUSLY A NOTEBOOK HAVE LESS POWER CONSUPTION THAN A COMPUTER.
I guess you understand now that if you have 1.000 dollars you've obviously buy a gt540m with a i5, but I dont fucking know what it have about the video!!!!!!!! This is a competition of low-budget PCs you idiot.
@BritishNathan WHAT???? I paid 600 dollars for it. From the price you just quoted me you know nothing of the price of hardware components. Give me a a set of specs and I can get within 100 dollars of the suggested price. Before you start spelling, you might want to learn grammar. Its understand now or "Do" I need to spell
@bigrigross dude, Im from Brazil, the prices here are lot different, I just quick searched google to find in dollars, I have no idea of prices in dollars, but I know here in Brasil a laptop with i5, gt 540m and 4gb RAM is costing R$ 2200 and a computer with A8 is R$800.
I really dont know why u compared ur laptop to an A8 computer, even my grandma knows your laptop is lot better, this is a competition of low-budget PCs, and the A8 won
It doesnt matter what u say, search anywhere, A8 is best.
@bigrigross please dude stop being a Intel fanboy, you can do nothing, A8 has been declared the best possible solution for low-budget gaming computer, you lost, Intel lost in low-budget computer.
We respect that Intel have the best high-end PCs, isnt this enough for your loved Intel? Let the AMD have the best midle-range PCs, well if you dont want, as I sais, it is the best anyway, it doesnt matter waht u say
look what tefrosen just wrote here down, hes right, cuz I SEARCHED, thing u dont
@BritishNathan and another thing. The way this is marketed, its terrible. It makes it look like the i3 is trash compared to the A8, guarantee you put a discrete card in here and it will put the A8 to shame because the i3 is alot faster of processor than the A8 is processor side. So when someone is using a CPU only process, The i3 would be a much better option.
@bigrigross dude... look at the video title: 2011 top 5 most popular GAMES...
this is a game camparison, i3 is not crap, is crap just for games, it doesnt matter what you say, A8 is better for low-bugdet gaming PCs and gaming laptops (E-series) is even better because you cant put a Offboard card in a laptop, whats the problem of admit that?
@BritishNathan And here ill say this, anything that averaged 30 FPS in the video is not playable at all. That means the average and that means it crawls somewhere around 15 to 20 fps which is not playable at all.
@bigrigross all the games in this video has been played 30 FPS+ in A8, and you can perfectly play any game with about 25 FPS, obviously your notebook can play it on 60 FPS, but its not everyone that can buy your notebook, if you dont have money, you buy an A8 that is definitelly better than i3
Honestly, this is quite trivial. Also, what kind of a competitive gamer would use integrated graphics? I'm not bashing AMD. But put a midrange graphics card on those rigs, the i3 would likely be edging out on those games.
@arlonvan23 my points exactly, sadly a lot of people has been enticed by this glorified APU, and the "good old 4 core vs 2 core" comparison that they missed to see other much more efficient and "faster" builds possible with an intel set-up
More than half of the people who commented doesn't read reviews. A Pentium G620 is more than enough to tackle the A8 "in gaming", "in terms of cpu performance". The money save from getting a G620 can be directed to buying a GT 440 instead. Now let's see who's getting their ass kicked.
@0902studios@arlonvan23 hah, you dont need the video dude, search ANYWHERE in the web, i3 lost for AMD APU, AMD has evolved integrated graphics with APU.
Im not ATI fanboy, YOU are a fucki** Intel fanboy, and be fanboy is a complete stupidity, doesnt matter the company.
Of course Intels high-end procesors are the best, I dream to have one of those, but can AMD is the champion of mid-range graphics you can't avoid the truth.
And HD6990 is the best graphics card in world, has been proved
@BritishNathan Just because I'm hating AMD that doesn't mean I'm a Intel fanboy. I have been saying those based on my experiences not as a fucking fanboy like you, kiddo. Nvidia and Intel are great and I prefer them over AMD, and that's my own preference, not yours. There are others too who agree with me, so if you don't, I don't care though.
@BritishNathan And oh, british nerd, AMD's getting biased, why would they compare it with i3? it was made a year ago, a8 was just this year. It's stupid and ridiculous, i3 isn't even good for a gaming rig. Why not try comparing their shit with the i7 extreme edition 980x? They can't even go further than that. AMD is a big fail nowadays, many people just can't see it. It's a big bias company. I have PCs at my home and they had AMD Intel and Nvidia on them. But AMD isn't just right.
@0902studios OMG dude, cant you understand? I've said 100 times and I repeat: THIS IS A MID-RANGE PROCESSOR, obviously i7 Extreme is better you retard, and they're comparing to an i3 because it costs the fucking same price, so actually, if someone's going to buy a low-buget gaming PC, the processor would be i3 or A8, because you dont have money to i7 extreme, so this proves A8 is really really better than i3 with the same fucking price, and run all games.
The problem is that gamers will not be choosing any of these two cpus, they will be looking at a higher end chip and that will favor the i5 2500k. It's great that Amd is winning in the low end but that's like saying you won the special Olympics 10times while your completion only won in the Olympics once, no one cares about your wins in the special Olympics.
@terorvlad The i5 2500K is faster clock for clock, and even so that chip was volted like crazy and was hand selected not to mention cooled on liquid nitrogen, not even realistic situation.
they used a bad motherboard on intel, ecs h67 motherboard that can only take 1333mhz ram so 1600 is useless. this video is biased. its like putting a car engine to a vehicle w no tires
@arlonvan23 cmom, 1333mhz - 1600mhz, are u mad? this gives no shit, maybe 2-3 FPS, nothing bigger.
You dont need this video, search in ANY site you well want in web, i3 graphics lost good for AMD APU for a VERY big differnece. You can put this Intel i3 in a P8P67 Extreme motherboard, it will still lost.
@BritishNathan i can compare this product to a lower cpu than that i3 much cheaper and then buy a "dedicated" GPU than using amd APU. that will still beat AMD
@assaulth3ro911 if your saying price is the issue it shouldnt be parts by parts price comparison it shud be the whole price computer prices comparison. because AMD A8 is an APU, its better to get an i3 or lower tier processors and with a "dedicated GPU" with the same price much better performance
@Tenzinpelha They are called something different for a reason, APU. its AMD's way of saying, "hey gamers" don't discourage this is not meant for you, its meant for the mediocre gamer who will be playing cheap low performance demanding games.
@timendo215 Not everyone is interested in flagships, though. Look at the market. About 2% of all computers use flagships the rest use things like the APU or i3. This APU is good for the price performance and power usage.
its not really fair. i use amd btw. the amd solution uses a proper gpu where intel has never really made intergrated graphics and has assumed people will run discret cards. APUs at this price range are cleary the way to go.
TheMrApothesis 2 weeks ago
AMD IS THE BEST GOD BLESS THE FOUNDERS OF IT
HolyKid321 2 weeks ago
Funny thing is the Intel Core i3 2105 is at a similar price point to the AMD FX 6100 and the 6100 generally gives out better performance.
MrBoxfacetramp13 2 weeks ago
I LOVE AMD!!!
shafishaheer212 2 weeks ago
Song at the beggining of the video ? please :)
iburnothers 2 weeks ago 2
try i7
EdwinjoseFeliz 2 weeks ago
weird i have intel graphics i can run these games.
AFSSD1 3 weeks ago
@AFSSD1 can run, but not as good as you would with an APU
BritishNathan 2 weeks ago
i have intel hd graphics do not get it i cant run shit
IAMTHECAKEdotORG 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
mw3 outsold skyrim? awesome >:)
7techno7ful 3 weeks ago
動画投稿ありがとうございます！!
M4A1411 4 weeks ago
face it, intel graphics are useless
sexking83 1 month ago 20
@sexking83 Listen to this guy (@sexking83), he knows what he's talking about. He's a King of sex for the love of satan.
intolerance100 1 week ago
@intolerance100 look at this guy trolololing
sexking83 1 week ago
@sexking83 I'll have you know sir that I am not trolling at all, to the contrary. In reality, I want people to listen to your statement because it has merit. Unfortunately that was the cleverest thing I could think of to say.
I know. I'm a failure and should kill myself.
intolerance100 1 week ago
@intolerance100 k no ones stopping
sexking83 1 week ago
@sexking83 200% agree who the fuck want to use gpu-cpu share shitty intel graphic for gaming anyway.
allofyousuckla 6 days ago
hi will this run games such as:arma 2, day of deafet source, counter strike source, left for dead both 1&2,garrysmod,crysis1, call of duty world at war, and team fortress 2? please answer it will greatly help
Hockeymysport41 1 month ago
@Hockeymysport41 10000% sure that this APU will run all of those.... - crysis
spoonikle 1 month ago
@Hockeymysport41 pfffffff, these games are toys for A8 3850. You can run Battlefield 3 in this APU at high framerates, trust me.
BritishNathan 1 month ago
And now compare the power consumption, the AMD will loose with clearly so you get a faster APU but it also consumes double the power and gets hotter. And ifyou really want to play games like Battlefield 3, you don't use the integrated graphics, that's for Office-PCs and the AMD consumes way too much power for an Office-PC.
48734A 1 month ago
@48734A Not necessarily. The A8 is more power efficient than core i3 @ idle. At load its a different story. But office machines spend most of their time at near idle anyway so A8 could end up being more efficient in an office machine.
LeakyWicks 1 month ago
@48734A APU consumes half of i3 in idle, in laod is a shit, but in idle is much less, due to cool 'n' quiet technology, and as the computer spend the most of the time in idle, than APU is better
BritishNathan 1 month ago
@BritishNathan @LeakyWicks can you show me some tests where the A8 is really consuming less power than the i3? All tests I can find show a maximum of 2 or 3 Watts that an i3 is consuming more in idle. But I didn't even know it only needs that little energy in idle :O
48734A 1 month ago
@48734A anandtech /bench/Product/399?vs=289
hothardware /Reviews/AMD-A83870K-Unlocked-Llano-QuadCore-APU-/?page=6
LeakyWicks 1 month ago
The i7 is out of the range for this AMD, AMD's run better than intels and faster only due to that they over heat alot faster thats a AMD side a effect. You can't compare this AMD to the i7 cause they are way apart for the price range and still the Zambezi is better than i7 sandstorm cause it runs at a faster pace.
KiloExtras 1 month ago
@KiloExtras correction Sandy Bridge
KiloExtras 1 month ago
Hi, im going to get a midrange gaming pc, but i already have a 6870, would you recomend me the A8, or the core i3 540
FellTheSky 1 month ago
@FellTheSky if you are getting a video card you dont need an APU. I recommend the Phenom II X4 955, its about U$140 and will give you better performance.
Cidadd 1 month ago
@Cidadd yes but thats a different price range and isnt relevant. the apus arnt using high end discret level gpus yet so the performance will be less. however when they do, they will be a real competitor to intels even highest level cpus . unless intel and nvidea get into bed togather. haha that would be a total outright waar
TheMrApothesis 2 weeks ago
@FellTheSky I thought the i3 540 is extinct by now? If you already have a 6870 go for a sandy bridge chip in your price range.
LeakyWicks 1 month ago
@LeakyWicks well yes, but the 540 was so low in price that i could not resist xD. although i ve overclocked to 4.2, and igota say it , its a beast (and 100% stable)
FellTheSky 1 month ago
But how long until the fan and heatsink can no longer cool the AMD?
MirthlessSmile79 1 month ago
mw3 the best bf3 suks
Amneet270 2 months ago
@Amneet270 MW2*
LOL Same game
Tyler11440 2 months ago
Behold!!! The savior of PC Gaming!
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AMD is far better then Intel if you prefer price/value!
I have just built 2 pc for my friends. I told them to buy an AMD phenom II x4 965 because its more than enough to play every game on the highest settings.
Guys don't waste ur money on an extremly expensive cpu. Buy a 965 and an as powerful vga as you can!
macskap 2 months ago
what the hell greg81809 this is a budget apu and it was compared with the i3 not the i7 idiot
jeenormus 2 months ago
so an A8 amd processor (4 cores, uses 100W, cheaply made) is better than an i3 (2cores, not a gaming cpu, 35W, perfect for working)...... what a great review this man made..... please next time make a video of an i5 vs the amd fx 8150...... yes an i5 will crush its soul.... i7 2600 wait wait the new i7 2700k is unreachable.... oh and dont compare the i7 990x.... fuck amd.... they cant do shit right they have terrible hyper threading.....
greg81809 2 months ago
There are 13 peoples working in Intel ;)
CraftPolskaPL 2 months ago
LOVE INTEL !!! :)
dstrachal 2 months ago
13 people saw Battlefield was in this video and gave it a dislike
chuyito1010 2 months ago 13
@chuyito1010 you misspelled cod
loctran1994 2 months ago
@loctran1994 wait what?"
chuyito1010 2 months ago
@chuyito1010 Is battlefield3 a bit rubbish? I've never played it.
TableWolfMusic 1 month ago
@chuyito1010 lol
7techno7ful 3 weeks ago
Well you could at least pop in a 50-100 dollars GPU in. As the AMD APU costs about 80 dollars more (at least here). OC'ing the Intel would probably make the CPU better than the Quad Core APU for gaming (with 80 dollars GPU).
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@Hokrollo1
you can't overclock most of intel's sandy bridge cpus.
also amd has the a6 which costs around the same price as the i3 and is only a bit weaker than the a8 for gaming.
FirsToStrike 2 months ago
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@Hokrollo1
you can't overclock most of intel's sandy bridge cpus.
also amd has the a6 which costs around the same price as the i3 and is only a bit weaker than the a8 for gaming.
FirsToStrike 2 months ago
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@Hokrollo1
you can't overclock most of intel's sandy bridge cpus.
also amd has the a6 which costs around the same price as the i3 and is only a bit weaker than the a8 for gaming.
FirsToStrike 2 months ago
@Hokrollo1 u cant overclock i3 Sandy-Bridge u retard, it's not unlocked, A8 is unlocked, it means more points to A8, and u need at least a 100 dollars GPU to compare it to A8 graphics. and you're wrong with price, go to amazon and search for A8 3870k this one is even better cuz have 3.0Ghz, its 160 USD now go to amazon and search for i3, its 140 USD, its 20 USD of difference you retard, and dont matter what u say to defend i3, i3 LOST to A8, search anywhere you want, any site, and admit it
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan
You mad bro?
Hokrollo1 2 months ago
@Hokrollo1 what?? thats what you have to say in your defense?
stop being a fanboy
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan A8-3870K is not $160. Its $140. Amazon priced it bad because they ran out.
Tyler11440 2 months ago
@Hokrollo1 i3 is locked. Cant overclock. Adding a GPU would make your price for CPU&GPU go above $200 and for that much, it would still perform badly.
Tyler11440 2 months ago
@Tyler11440
Locked multipliers, not meaning it can't overclock. And GPUs doesn't cost 200 $
Hokrollo1 2 months ago
@Hokrollo1 you need at least a $80 GPU to compare it to the A8 graphics, and you can overclock it, but it isnt as good as it would with a unlocked multiplier, and you can easly overclock A8 to 3.3Ghz and its GPU too, with stock cooler making it really better and making need a $120 GPU on i3 to compare to its overclocked graphics
and both i3 and A8 cost exactly the same, as the guy said below, why are you going to spend $140 on i3 + $80 GPU = $220, when you can spend 140$ for a single one?
BritishNathan 1 month ago
i3 gpus is not powerful but cpu is much better than a8
Szyman6 2 months ago
@Szyman6 we're talking about GAMING
BritishNathan 2 months ago
wow who the fuck gets intel i3 wtfffff
greg81809 2 months ago
@greg81809 hell yeah!!!
BritishNathan 2 months ago
waste of time I don't really favor any side but if your comparing Intel HD and AMD graphics AMD obviously wins because they own a gaming division. What they should have done is test CS5, cpu intensive tasks and encoding video w/ handbreak! I personally am looking to get an amd GPU but am switching over to intel's ivy bridge if it's a good performance boost over sb!
iDartProductions 2 months ago
The A8 makes for an epic budget gaming laptop... I own one. But it's kinda pointless it desktops, as it's really easy to get an $80 6670, stick it in a desktop, and beat an A8 with any CPU you have.
Intel IGP still sucks, nevertheless. There's no way to around it. None of you have lived with it: framerates are bad, but the freaking graphical glitches and lag spikes are even worse.
miest0908 2 months ago
These apus sold SO well that amd has made $89 million PROFIT over them in first 3 months. NOT revenue. profit. so at least $200 million worth LLanos have been sold.
unity100 2 months ago
intel 4!!!
EIGGG1 2 months ago
I'd say AMD for low budget PC's Intel for somewhat better
PloxCakeGaming 2 months ago
A lot of Intel fans fail to realize that if AMD dies, Intel will jack the price up to $1000 for every CPU; not just their high ends. Intel already jacked up the price for Xeons because of the bad Opteron release last year; please dont let that become the same for every market. Intel fans: You need AMD.
Tyler11440 2 months ago
What moron uses i3 for gaming? It's good for laptops.
Shayd93 2 months ago
@Shayd93 i3 actually works well for light gaming on games like Dirt3 and other games 1+ years old.
Tyler11440 2 months ago
@Tyler11440 Intel atom runs San andreas, so?
Shayd93 2 months ago
@Shayd93 AMD E-450 ($30) runs San Andreas on maximum detail. Intel Atom costs around $100 and can barely run it on medium, not to mention it cant even handle Windows Aero or 720p video without lagging.
Tyler11440 2 months ago
@Tyler11440 Are you stupid or just not well informed, You can get Atomb along with motherboard for it for 70 bucks
Shayd93 2 months ago
@Shayd93 Thats a low-end atom. That would run it even lower. I'm talking about the highest-end Atom with the newest graphics. The $70 Atom has a graphics processor equivalent to a low-end GeForce from 2006 and a CPU equivalent to a Pentium 4.
If you compare it to the E-450 I mentioned earlier, the Atom has 1/3 the graphics power and equivalent CPU performance. FOR THE SAME PRICE.
Tyler11440 2 months ago
@Shayd93 Getting the best Atom/Motherboard/Graphics combo that runs the same will cost you $170 from Intel, because they have to include nVidia ION to make it perform at non-pitiful levels. AMD can provide an E-450 that does pretty much the same thing fro around $60. Atom will NEVER be as good as a low-end APU.
Tyler11440 2 months ago
intel 4ever :P fuck AMD
idobutidont 2 months ago
amd mops the floor with intel in every market except the smallest market
dave777blaster 2 months ago
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i read the comment and had no doubt why i3 is selling well ( for the ingnorants and retard fanboys )
mesavor 2 months ago
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mesavor 2 months ago
6670 on both plataform still win amd. you need at last a 6790 on i3 to compare i3+6790 with a8-3850+6670
tefrosen 2 months ago 3
@tefrosen exactly
BritishNathan 2 months ago
put one 6670 an you get dual graphics on amd
tefrosen 2 months ago
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"and another thing. The way this is marketed, its terrible. It makes it look like the i3 is trash compared to the A8, guarantee you put a discrete card in here and it will put the A8 to shame because the i3 is alot faster of processor than the A8 is processor side. So when someone is using a CPU only process, The i3 would be a much better option"
And how much more money does it take for the I3 to beat the A8 in gaming 60-80$ and it will use more power
wii166 2 months ago
ASRock has AMD motherboards?
Aelfredus26 2 months ago
@Aelfredus26 yep
BritishNathan 2 months ago
THIS IS FOR ALL EVERYONE HERE:
This is a APU for those who doesnt have money to buy a good computer, so stop fucking comparing it to an i7 990x Extreme or saying "if you put a graphics card..." HELL, if you put a graphics card it will cost the double! this is for low-budget PCs.
Intel have the best High-End processor, we in AMD admit that, and respect that, but you need to admit that AMD have the best Mid-Range graphics processors.
thumbs up this comment so everyone see and stop fight
BritishNathan 2 months ago 85
@BritishNathan you the fcking man dough!
drey27 1 month ago
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This video was about mobile. And trust me then, Nvidia is the way to go. My dual 570s smash anything AMD has out right now. Dual 570s way faster than dual 6970s. Plus PHYSX.
No its not you dumb fuck the 6950 cf is just as fast as the 570 sli. the 6970 in cf comes close to the 580 sli thinks to its higher scaling god YouTube users can be so dumb
wii166 2 months ago
Amd may not make the best processor but they do make the best APU. Intel makes great processors but shitty graphics. At least Amd can make Good processors(they can play any game Intel can and i know from experience who cares about pretty charts anyways) But intel can NOT make graphics that can game.
Like Amd said their are 2 companies that make x86/x64(Fuck via) processors and 2 companies that make high-end graphics but their is only 1 company that does both And that is AMD.
wii166 2 months ago
" Put a proper GPU in those setups, guarantee you the i3 2150 will win."
Oh yes Intel is so great having to use Amd's or nvidia's graphics instead of their own!
Amd says we can make a gaming computer with are own cpu and gpu
Intel says we can make a gaming computer with are CPU and your gpu or nvidia's gpu
wii166 2 months ago
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"So you are comparing the onboard graphics chipsets??? Ok then, my GT540M is faster than the A8's graphics cores and I get 4 hours of gaming on my laptop and 10 while on intel graphics."
Your a fucking liar you don't get 10 hours on the battery with that unless you have a 10-12 cell battery you dumb fuck so stop trolling. The A8 can out beat that setup when watching videos and normal tasks if the battery is the same.
wii166 2 months ago
"Crossfire has never scaled better than SLi, AMD's drivers are not as good thus why they push them out once a month vs Nvidias drivers which push them out every two months. "
Total BS the whole reason a 6990 is faster then a 590 is because of Amd better Performance/Watt and better CF performance. A 6950 in CF is even with a Gtx 570 sli. So what is your logic in that as soon as Amd took Ati over Ati kicked Nvidia's ass and they still are. The radeon 4000HD series kicked nvidia in the balls.
wii166 2 months ago
u know what amd should do? amd should make an a12 or a8 squared, they should make a apu soooo good that it will beat the current and future i7's. I wouldnt care if they hike up the price near intel, all i want is an apu that owns the i7
sofruity3 2 months ago
@sofruity3 You do know AMD is getting out of the enthusiast market after the complete and utter failure of bulldozer right?
bigrigross 2 months ago
6 dislikes. Nice try Intel
cyctechproductions 2 months ago 30
Cant wait for the A10-5800 this spring!
Tyler11440 2 months ago
Alternative solution - actually use a proper graphics card - AMD is comparing them in what they are best at. I will admit, if you want graphics on the chip (no clue why you would want that), go with AMD. However, the best solution in my opinion is a intel chip with a seperate graphics card (AMD, not nvidia)
MinecraftModder01 2 months ago
@MinecraftModder01 Why not Nvidia, I have yet to see a AMD GPU based laptop get more than 6 hours on single charge. My Intel i5 with Nvidia 540M/ Intel 3000 gpus using Optimus gets 10 hours on a single charge. And I can play Bf3 for about 4 hours off battery. So im curious to see whats wrong with Nvida. And my laptop was only 700 dollars and its less than a inch thin and its a 13in laptop. I fail to see your reasoning???
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross I use a desktop. I have no care for battery life.
MinecraftModder01 2 months ago
@MinecraftModder01 This video was about mobile. And trust me then, Nvidia is the way to go. My dual 570s smash anything AMD has out right now. Dual 570s way faster than dual 6970s. Plus PHYSX.
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross They're actually not faster. The 6970s have 2GB dedicated graphics. I know that memory isn't everything, but that's just 1 example of why I prefer it. Anyway, I said previously that you didn't need that. I have a single 5770, and right now I am doing 3d rendering with no lag. 2 570s are useless. It will never all get used up. Hell, even 1 570 is probably overkill for what you do. What do you do that actually stresses your GPU?
MinecraftModder01 2 months ago
@MinecraftModder01 WHAT the amount of VRAM means nothing. Your still stuck with the slow 256bit memory bus vs my 380bit. A single 570 is 20% faster than a 6970, and I got that number from Anandtech and bittech and HARDOCP. Battlefield 3, metro 2033, and other games use it. Though i also run a 2560x1440 display which is the reason for it. I like my games well above 60FPS. But I do have a mini itx build with a core i3 2100 and a 5770 as well. Its a good backup while im rendering video or code
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross I can get well above 120FPS on most games with a single 5770 on 1080p maximum settings. I see no need for anything more. As a programmer, I like a fast computer, but I mainly go for CPU speed, as that's what gets used up (as a programmer, anyway). A 2500k oc'd to 4.6GHz gets me through anything I would need. The graphics card really doesn't matter when you get to that speed. After a single 570 you'd be better off getting an SSD, and a RAM upgrade, instead of a second one.
MinecraftModder01 2 months ago
@MinecraftModder01 Yeah, pretty much, i know you on that one. I have a core i7 2600k and it makes my compiling go so much smoother. And I play all my games at max everything. The second 570 gets the job done with that. Though I cant play the witcher 2 on max :/ I payed a pretty penny for my rig. Its used for work and play so it was worth the money. I do use AutoCAD and Maya along with CS5. The videocards do most of my rendering so they are needed. I already have a 240GB SSD and 16GB of ram
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross Given what you do, that's fair enough, but for most people, they get something far better than what they will ever need, and I find it utterly ridiculous, for example, that the battlefield 3 "recommended specs" are a 6950, given that I can play it on maximum graphics with something half that powerful.
MinecraftModder01 2 months ago
@MinecraftModder01 Yeah, thats the only reason I even have 2. Though having a 2560x1440 screen does push my cards for the most part. Though the reason I chose Nvidia over AMD was because of CUDA. My video renderer along with AutoCAD and Maya use my 570s to do everything in real time for the most part. Heck, I dont mind my little machine at all. The 5770 can sure kick but and the computer only weighs like 10 pounds and it makes it easy to carry.
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross
They're not.
CF scales better than SLI and 570/6970 trade blows depending on game so CF 6970 > SLI 570.
Physx is as dead as a dodo. Batman and what more? Yeah, nothing.
Lolimaster 2 months ago
@Lolimaster Crossfire has never scaled better than SLi, AMD's drivers are not as good thus why they push them out once a month vs Nvidias drivers which push them out every two months. I have never seen crossfire get above 85% scalability while my 570s get 95% in most games. What is it with people today, is their fanboyism clouding their use of google and looking at benchmarks. You guys are pathetic. Anandtech, HARDOCP, and Bittech did all of these benchmarks and no they dont trade punches.
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross yes obvouosly, but I say and repeat, this is for who doesnt have 2.000 dollars to buy a dual 570, LOL
this is a low-budget PC gaming, and A8 win and smach Intel Core i3, that are the same price, and usesss 50% less power consuption
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan No, the A8 doesnt use 50% less power. The A8 3850 has a TDP of 100 watts. The Core i3 2100 (which is desktop) is 65 watts. The core i3 in this test is a mobile i3 with a TDP of 45 watts
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross you forgot the video card TDP, as A8 already comes with one...
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@bigrigross Seeing as NVidia uses more power usually, and I just looked a bit into Laptop graphics by NVidia, they have a techology called "Optimus" but not on all of the cards, so depending on the GPU AMD usually has a better lifetime because they tend to use less power than NVidia cards.
and I believe your BATTERY might have something to do with that...jus sayin.
timendo215 2 months ago
@timendo215 Its a 6 Cell Lithium Polymer on a a 13.3 in LED laptop. Nothing to special. It just knows how to save energy and no, Nvidia GPU's do not use more power, if anything the 500 series is very power efficient, yes the 400 series was terrible, but they did fix that and I get amazing battery life when gaming on the go.
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross Hm, I just looked back into NVidia Power consumption, you're definitely right they seem to have fixed it, but it does have slightly higher in their lower end models, but when AMD puts out their flagship that shit takes a lot of power.
Sorry for the mistake, I usually don't look into power consumption daily unless I'm looking to buy it.
timendo215 2 months ago
@timendo215 Its no problem, but when I look for laptop gpu chips, efficiency is what I look at first. I almost did get a HP Envy with the 6850M in it but when I seen the battery life on my laptop when I shopped around, I pretty much didnt even think about grabbing this. Though it is an Acer, its actually a pretty good laptop surprisingly. Thin, light, powerful, and plays BF3 at medium at 40FPS. On my desktop 570s, boy do they take power, my kill-o-watt showed 700 watts on BF3 :/
bigrigross 2 months ago
"And oh, british nerd, AMD's getting biased, why would they compare it with i3? it was made a year ago, a8 was just this year. It's stupid and ridiculous, i3 isn't even good for a gaming rig. Why not try comparing their shit with the i7 extreme edition 980x?"
What a dumb ass compare processors and video cards. and by price Amd kills Intel not everyone can spend 600$ on a desktop you could build a A8 system for 400$ while A Intel plus a Amd(ha ha) or nvidia card will cost 100$ more.
wii166 2 months ago
So you are comparing the onboard graphics chipsets??? Ok then, my GT540M is faster than the A8's graphics cores and I get 4 hours of gaming on my laptop and 10 while on intel graphics. I fail to see a proper contest between these two. The core i3 was never meant to play games using the intel 2000 series gpu. All you amd people fishing for a win is a fail lol. This just shows that amd fails at gaming. Put a proper GPU in those setups, guarantee you the i3 2150 will win.
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross i3 never win, the chipset it's very horrible !
dnscpan 2 months ago
@bigrigross
Little troll, AMD built-in gpu's are proper gpu's and they overheat like nvidia ones. So you safe space, battery and heat.
Lolimaster 2 months ago
@Lolimaster Mine has never over heated little troll. My laptop stays below 70 degrees Celsius while playing Battlefield 3 on medium. So thank you very much. And again, i have yet to see a amd laptop go past 6 hours. Mine goes 10 while on integrated and 4 while playing BF3, and btw, i have a Acer Timeline X 3830TG with the i5 and the GT540m so shush your mouth you uninformed fanboy.
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross Says the obvious Intel NVidia fanboy?
Usually when people accuse others of being a fanboy, they are themselves.
I'm a fan of whoever makes the best equipment I can afford, and it so happens that that's AMD I fucking love AMD, I can afford their shit, my Phenom II 955 was 111 dollars compared to a 2500k's 230, half the price, thank you very much, BF3 on Ultra, thank you very much.
timendo215 2 months ago
@timendo215 And there he finally tells the truth haha. AMD's stuff isnt the best but it is cheap. I accuse you because I do have a 5770 in my backup rig and my old rig had 3 4890s in Crossfire and a 955 BE. But that was years ago. And you know what, a 955 is fine for gaming for the most part. But I just dont game, I use AutoCAD, Maya, CS5, compile, use render video. A 955 sucks at those things. Even there 6 core sucks at that. Thats why I use the 2600K is because its 7x faster.
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross OMG, why everyone here is so stupid, ok, let me say this once more: IF YOU PUT A FUCKING DAMNED GRAOHICS CARD IN THAT SHIT IT WILL COST THE DOUBLE OF THE ORIGINAL PRICE,M THIS IS A COMPUTER FOR WHO DOESNT HAVE FUCKING MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!
Understand?????????????????????
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan Then why compare apple to oranges???
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross wait, I didnt understand... apples are better than orange or orange are better than apple? I prefer apple, and have people who prefer orange, its a question of taste.
Well, let me try to understand this... you're trying to say: "if A8 is really, really better than i3, why compare with it", right? well, answer is simple:
cuz they are the same price
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan Umm, as a processor though, the A8 is a very bad processor by itself. In computational task it would get owned by the i3. That is what I dont understand about this all. And all there is on that A8 is a 6630, a GT520 is equivalent to that and it uses 65 watts also. AMD has never been known for their power efficiency. I guarantee you my laptop uses less electricity and is more powerful than that A8 system, its only a i5 mobile and a gt540m. Sorry, discrete> apu
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross I dont fuckinh know what you didnt understand, I've said this about 100 times, Im going to say it for the 101st time: a i5 with a gt540 cost about 1,000 dollars, and if you dont ahev that money???? you have just 600 dollars, you BUY A A8. You understand now or I need to repeat? Im goint to repeat in other words:
OBVIOUSLY YOUR COMPUTER IS BETTER YOU RETARD, BUT IS NOT EVERYONE THAT CAN AFFORD IT!!!! A8 IS THE BEST LOW-BUDGET POSSIBLE COMPUTER
understand now or I need to spell?
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan oh and OBVIOUSLY A NOTEBOOK HAVE LESS POWER CONSUPTION THAN A COMPUTER.
I guess you understand now that if you have 1.000 dollars you've obviously buy a gt540m with a i5, but I dont fucking know what it have about the video!!!!!!!! This is a competition of low-budget PCs you idiot.
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan WHAT???? I paid 600 dollars for it. From the price you just quoted me you know nothing of the price of hardware components. Give me a a set of specs and I can get within 100 dollars of the suggested price. Before you start spelling, you might want to learn grammar. Its understand now or "Do" I need to spell
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross dude, Im from Brazil, the prices here are lot different, I just quick searched google to find in dollars, I have no idea of prices in dollars, but I know here in Brasil a laptop with i5, gt 540m and 4gb RAM is costing R$ 2200 and a computer with A8 is R$800.
I really dont know why u compared ur laptop to an A8 computer, even my grandma knows your laptop is lot better, this is a competition of low-budget PCs, and the A8 won
It doesnt matter what u say, search anywhere, A8 is best.
BritishNathan 2 months ago
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BritishNathan 2 months ago
@bigrigross please dude stop being a Intel fanboy, you can do nothing, A8 has been declared the best possible solution for low-budget gaming computer, you lost, Intel lost in low-budget computer.
We respect that Intel have the best high-end PCs, isnt this enough for your loved Intel? Let the AMD have the best midle-range PCs, well if you dont want, as I sais, it is the best anyway, it doesnt matter waht u say
look what tefrosen just wrote here down, hes right, cuz I SEARCHED, thing u dont
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan and another thing. The way this is marketed, its terrible. It makes it look like the i3 is trash compared to the A8, guarantee you put a discrete card in here and it will put the A8 to shame because the i3 is alot faster of processor than the A8 is processor side. So when someone is using a CPU only process, The i3 would be a much better option.
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross dude... look at the video title: 2011 top 5 most popular GAMES...
this is a game camparison, i3 is not crap, is crap just for games, it doesnt matter what you say, A8 is better for low-bugdet gaming PCs and gaming laptops (E-series) is even better because you cant put a Offboard card in a laptop, whats the problem of admit that?
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan And here ill say this, anything that averaged 30 FPS in the video is not playable at all. That means the average and that means it crawls somewhere around 15 to 20 fps which is not playable at all.
bigrigross 2 months ago
@bigrigross all the games in this video has been played 30 FPS+ in A8, and you can perfectly play any game with about 25 FPS, obviously your notebook can play it on 60 FPS, but its not everyone that can buy your notebook, if you dont have money, you buy an A8 that is definitelly better than i3
BritishNathan 2 months ago
I liked the part when Intel sucked.
MegaTENFOLD 2 months ago
Honestly, this is quite trivial. Also, what kind of a competitive gamer would use integrated graphics? I'm not bashing AMD. But put a midrange graphics card on those rigs, the i3 would likely be edging out on those games.
JironBMohamad 2 months ago
@JironBMohamad but would costs much more id you put a mid graphics card, this is for low-budget PCs.
BritishNathan 2 months ago
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@arlonvan23 my points exactly, sadly a lot of people has been enticed by this glorified APU, and the "good old 4 core vs 2 core" comparison that they missed to see other much more efficient and "faster" builds possible with an intel set-up
aurlan 2 months ago
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aurlan 2 months ago
More than half of the people who commented doesn't read reviews. A Pentium G620 is more than enough to tackle the A8 "in gaming", "in terms of cpu performance". The money save from getting a G620 can be directed to buying a GT 440 instead. Now let's see who's getting their ass kicked.
aurlan 2 months ago
Maybe I'll take an AMD A6 or A8 Series PC and give Google Sketchup and Blender a try to see if it's worth doing 3D modeling.
jspector86 2 months ago
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@0902studios @arlonvan23 hah, you dont need the video dude, search ANYWHERE in the web, i3 lost for AMD APU, AMD has evolved integrated graphics with APU.
Im not ATI fanboy, YOU are a fucki** Intel fanboy, and be fanboy is a complete stupidity, doesnt matter the company.
Of course Intels high-end procesors are the best, I dream to have one of those, but can AMD is the champion of mid-range graphics you can't avoid the truth.
And HD6990 is the best graphics card in world, has been proved
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan Just because I'm hating AMD that doesn't mean I'm a Intel fanboy. I have been saying those based on my experiences not as a fucking fanboy like you, kiddo. Nvidia and Intel are great and I prefer them over AMD, and that's my own preference, not yours. There are others too who agree with me, so if you don't, I don't care though.
0902studios 2 months ago
@BritishNathan And oh, british nerd, AMD's getting biased, why would they compare it with i3? it was made a year ago, a8 was just this year. It's stupid and ridiculous, i3 isn't even good for a gaming rig. Why not try comparing their shit with the i7 extreme edition 980x? They can't even go further than that. AMD is a big fail nowadays, many people just can't see it. It's a big bias company. I have PCs at my home and they had AMD Intel and Nvidia on them. But AMD isn't just right.
0902studios 2 months ago
@0902studios uhm but is runs games right? so why do so many suck on intels ballz? cause its faster? uhm ok. i guess.
agello24 2 months ago
@agello24 What?
0902studios 2 months ago
@0902studios OMG dude, cant you understand? I've said 100 times and I repeat: THIS IS A MID-RANGE PROCESSOR, obviously i7 Extreme is better you retard, and they're comparing to an i3 because it costs the fucking same price, so actually, if someone's going to buy a low-buget gaming PC, the processor would be i3 or A8, because you dont have money to i7 extreme, so this proves A8 is really really better than i3 with the same fucking price, and run all games.
Understand or I need to spell?
BritishNathan 2 months ago
The problem is that gamers will not be choosing any of these two cpus, they will be looking at a higher end chip and that will favor the i5 2500k. It's great that Amd is winning in the low end but that's like saying you won the special Olympics 10times while your completion only won in the Olympics once, no one cares about your wins in the special Olympics.
877Medicman 2 months ago
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BritishNathan 2 months ago
how about do an FX 8150 vs an i5 2500k video? both around the same price.
SPAZZY1912 2 months ago
@SPAZZY1912 2500K hands down not to mention the 2500K overclocks like crazy
TehRealCanadarocker 2 months ago
@TehRealCanadarocker last time I checked ,8150p held the record for the highest overclock with 8.4... Ghz
terorvlad 2 months ago
@terorvlad The i5 2500K is faster clock for clock, and even so that chip was volted like crazy and was hand selected not to mention cooled on liquid nitrogen, not even realistic situation.
TehRealCanadarocker 2 months ago
they used a bad motherboard on intel, ecs h67 motherboard that can only take 1333mhz ram so 1600 is useless. this video is biased. its like putting a car engine to a vehicle w no tires
arlonvan23 2 months ago
@arlonvan23 cmom, 1333mhz - 1600mhz, are u mad? this gives no shit, maybe 2-3 FPS, nothing bigger.
You dont need this video, search in ANY site you well want in web, i3 graphics lost good for AMD APU for a VERY big differnece. You can put this Intel i3 in a P8P67 Extreme motherboard, it will still lost.
BritishNathan 2 months ago
@BritishNathan i can compare this product to a lower cpu than that i3 much cheaper and then buy a "dedicated" GPU than using amd APU. that will still beat AMD
arlonvan23 2 months ago
@arlonvan23 Yes and no, The price has to be a same, if not... Then Intel loses automatically..
assaulth3ro911 2 months ago
@assaulth3ro911 if your saying price is the issue it shouldnt be parts by parts price comparison it shud be the whole price computer prices comparison. because AMD A8 is an APU, its better to get an i3 or lower tier processors and with a "dedicated GPU" with the same price much better performance
arlonvan23 2 months ago
The i3 is $125 while the A8 is just $15 more, that's nothing compared to the extra performance your getting.
PCgamer29388 2 months ago
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frenchboner 2 months ago
amd sucks. their latest line of processors are a joke.
Tenzinpelha 2 months ago
@Tenzinpelha They are called something different for a reason, APU. its AMD's way of saying, "hey gamers" don't discourage this is not meant for you, its meant for the mediocre gamer who will be playing cheap low performance demanding games.
aidynphoenix334 2 months ago
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frenchboner 2 months ago
I wonder how Ivy Bridge graphic cores will stand up against the Radeons in A8s.
SteelSkin667 2 months ago
Look at the price difference
~GASP~ HOLY SHIT THERE VIRTUALLY IS NONE
MAYBE THIS IS TO GIVE YOU A RIG IN THE GENERAL PRICE RANGE OF EACHOTHER NOT EACH COMPANIES FLAG SHIPS
HOLY SHIT I USED MY BRAIN
timendo215 2 months ago 9
@timendo215 Not everyone is interested in flagships, though. Look at the market. About 2% of all computers use flagships the rest use things like the APU or i3. This APU is good for the price performance and power usage.
Tyler11440 2 months ago