P2 of 14 - Gangsters Paradise - Rev. Otis Moss III

[oriskany]

Most evangelists are essentially used car salesmen.

They will be asked for accountance.

[ronptech]

It's amazing how folks will throw anything up and expect us to believe or accept it just because they said so. Secondly, your comment appears to infer that non-used car salesmen will not be asked for an accounting? How so?

[oriskany]

ronptech: First of all, I am fully aware of the presumption of my statement.

Let me add, however; that I have been subjected to AG evangelists in the past.

Not my cup of tea, if you will. ALL of them seemed drunk with their own form of presumption, and that is to say they presupposed people needed them. Not so.

Suffice it say I have been in the presence of these people and watched them closely enough to form an opinion.

This is only a brief offering, there is much more.

[ronptech]

Understood, thus the take away is:

1. Assertion-1 ("Most evangelists...") - opinion with no evidence or factual certification.

2. Assertion-2 ("They will be asked...") opinion with no evidence or factual certification.

I run with the belief that everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is accepted no more than that unless supported with evidence or certified fact.

[oriskany]

I'm drinking a fine cognac, what are YOU drinking?

1. Assertion-1 ("I run with the belief...") - no evidence unless I personally certify it.

2. Assertion-2 ("...accepted no more than...") - no evidence unless I personally certify it.

Incumbency is a drug, you are not in a position to ensure continued supplies.

[ronptech]

There certainly are progressive limits to incumbency, though you haven't on any level established a foundation of credibility to advance this discussion. The cognac association doesn't fulfill that requirement nor decrease the floor of uncertainty you've established.

[ronptech]

Back to your assertions; lets try Socrates.

1a. What proof do you offer other than your anecdotal experiences that "most evangelists are essentially used car salesman?"

1b. Please describe your use of the phrase "used car salesman?"

2. What of the accountancy of the rest of the non-used car salesman universe?

[oriskany]

Back to your assertions; let's try Yogi Berra.

90% of evangelism and/or selling used cars is physical; the other half is mental.

[ronptech]

Yogi's developed that opinion from his societally acknowledged successful and seasoned experience in baseball. He established a credible foundation, from where he could acceptably make such statements. Yogi Berra also said that "all pitchers are liars or crybabies." Using Yogi's credibility to launch your evangelist assertions doesn't work, though it was a C+ try!

[oriskany]

Oh well, now you're making me laugh.

I remember as a student in Paris detecting the almost complete lack of satire or irony amongst the French students.

They were so absorbed in learning English that they entirely missed the "essence" of the language.

Too correct, if you will, missing the point.

You broached it with "liars" in reference to pitchers. Now you must accept the likelyhood that you protest too much at a relatively moot point.

In other words, I see you, immigrant.

[ronptech]

Not really, although you made the classic mistake of misusing an idiomatic expression along with assuming my focus was on liars relative to baseball. Hopefully you haven't assimilated some of the stereotypical superior society crap. There's no hierarchy at work here. Credibility is yours to establish.

Getting back to the point. I don't accept you unsubstantiated assertion that "most evangelists are essentially used car salesmen" nor your "accountance" reference if meant less than universal.

[oriskany]

We can go back and forth here without achieving a damned thing, and you know it.

Instead of glomming onto my pantleg relentlessly, why don't you, in your formal and contrived usage of English, share your vision as an evangelist?

What or who put you on the pursuit of evangelism?

If you will do that I will explain fully the "used car salesman" reference.

[ronptech]

Sorry... you made the assertion and I challenged it's authenticity. I've allowed you to waste enough of my time with various distractions from that point, including your hypocritical language metaphors. You came here with an opinion cloaked as fact, thus It remains on you to demonstrate the validity of "most evangelists are essentially used car salesmen" and even that leaves you with much boundary flexibility.

[oriskany]

I could not have said it better.

You have answered it.

[MsNotforsale]

Are there any other races there?, and if so what do they wear just regular clothes.

[IsaacsMedia]

I have family friends who sing in the choir and I'll explain to you what's going on. This choir- the Sanctuary Choir- wears African attire on special occasions and during the summer months. It's a way of the choir being UNIFORM even with different outfits on, because they are UNIFORM in concept (the same style of clothing) than just by all wearing the same robe.

Anybody can wear African attire- even you. Blacks are not as racists as some of THOSE who accuse us of being so. *wink*

[MsNotforsale]

Thanks, but i am black also. I appreciate

your response and much love to ya! I was just wandering was it a special occasion or something. Thanx.

[ronptech]

Easter service.

[LoveAfricaAlways]

I love their clothing

[mrrdrm]

I'm resolutely irreligious, but I have to give it up for the music.

[samuelfoto]

If they did not attack your Church I will not have found you. Jeremaiah Whright's Ministery continues, fueled by those who have eyes but do not see.

[germans4obama]

amen!

[Jcksht]

listen to the rhythm section kick in at 5:27.

it's a beautiful thing.

[worldcomingtoanend]

oh yes man that section kicks ass:)