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  • I agree with ladymodel

  • The only thing I like about Joe is the fact that he gave me Michael

  • I know Joseph is cold, treated his kids bad, and have done and said many horable things to everyone in the family. But deep inside, the family meant everything to him. He just didnt grab it right.

  • thankful for beating him to be our idols?? wouldnt it be better if he could have had a happy normal live? this is so egoistic amazing. he could have been a star without the beating too, with his talent, and he'd propably still be with us

  • michael when he sang as kid had a stronger voice than he did as an adult lol

  • Michael doesn't look happy at 6:48, I wonder what it was about??

  • Oh loko,a gente tá socegado e vê o Joe.Que medo!!!

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  • wow! Mr. Jackson and Tito looks very much alike 0:51 around the same age,

  • @thewinn2007 i noticed that too

  • and Berry Gordy set a fine example of course.

  • Michael jackson when he was 12-15 was schitzoprenic&all family knew about this diagnosis coz he wasc rying all the time&severely depressed&suffered an undiagnosed mental breakdown at 16 but joe&kath did not want this2get out so didnt get MJ help cz they feared that it wud be the end of the jacksons american dream if the jackson 5/jacksons stopped chugging along.

    Mj shud hav goten that help frm sum1 outside the family instd of kath&joe thinkin all the MJ, the boy needed ws time with his family.

  • I really do think that Joe Jackson sexually abused them, plus physical and emotional! UGH WHAT A MONSTER!!!

  • @youthgirl14

    Why do you think that?

  • @youthgirl14 really why? please explain.

  • where does 'johnny' jackson come into the family??? PLEASE TELL MEE! :)

  • Joe Jackson wanted his children to have the BEST and be the BEST, it's BETTER than all these DEADBEATS out here, who can't even buy milk and diapers for their kids!

  • PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE

    there's no other alternative...

  • MICHAEL SAID HE USED TO OIL HIM DOWN IN THE NUDE N WHIP HIM :(

    Type in youtube michael jackson rare tapes and click on the 3rd one

  • @MsMJ247 Michael was a compulsive liar. He never got any beaten from Joe. Johnny said so, so did Janet and Jackie. Why would Joe be beating up his best star. MJ just lied because he thought he would get public sympathy. Just like how he was so lonely he walked the streets begging people to be his friend. Ha, he only had 2 nose jobs. ha He took paris out the hospital with the placents still attached. The lies are too enormous and all are contradicted by the People who new Mj, Berry Gordy too.

  • @amore2010ad1

    Exactly! I love Michael with all my heart, but there was a point where he just said anything people wanted to hear!

  • @bebreezy93 To be honest he down played alot of the abuse. We all forget that La Toya said Joe molested both her and Rebbie. To lie and say your own father molested you . . . I don't know?

  • @liacashmere58 Think about this. Michael let go of his father LONG before he started talking about him "beating" him like he did. Why did he wait years, after all those child molestation charges, after people were saying AWFUL things about him, to talk about that stuff? Why did LaToya wait until she was so unsuccessful to come out and say those AWFUL things about him? Right now, I'm into a lot of J5 stuff. I find interviews, home videos, and pictures all over the place. That was a happy family.

  • @liacashmere58 There's an interview with the Jackson family, and Jackie is talking. The interviewer asks Jackie about all the things LaToya said. Now Jackie wasn't in the business like he was anymore. He wasn't in the spotlight anymore, and he liked it that way. That man CRIED, on television. Saying that he couldn't understand why LaToya said all those things. I've seen pictures, seemingly during the years the J5 would be gone where LaToya and Joe are together, laughing....

  • @liacashmere58

    she's feeding him something that he seems like she cooked. Then later on into the 80s, Mike was "The King", Janet was just revving up, and the bro's seemed happy doing what they were doing with their lives. Now LaToya wanted all this success. According to her, in a video I saw with her in Mike back in 85, she wanted to be a star like Diana Ross or Barbara Streisand....she wanted to do acting and singing and be extremely successful at both. That didn't happen...

  • @liacashmere58 so, don' t you find it strange that she just happened to come out with all those things, and get attention for them. She would say things like Joe would put guns up to their heads, and come in their rooms at night. If that was the case, why would she be all happy and laughing afterward. Most children hate their molesters and wouldn't want to be anywhere near them. . . but nooo, I've seen pictures where they look like the happiest family you could ever no. I mean her story.....

  • @bebreezy93 know*

  • @liacashmere58

    would never be straight. She'd say things like, "I'd try to leave, but mother would stop me, and say no. If you go...they know your name out there, and try and kidnap you." -_____- what?? That doesn't even make sense! She say things like he's hold guns up to their heads. -_- and it was even said DURING that time that she first started saying, he just beat me, then as her airtime increased. The story escalated into: he molested us. -_- Come on now. Later on....

  • @liacashmere58 she said that it was her husband who made her pose nude for playboy, (oh any by the way, during the accusations she claimed her father "Molesting" her was why she posed nude -_-. How about she wasn't getting any attention) and that if she didn't say all those things about her family, he'd kill them. Now HE was the one abusing here. Beating her, not the way Joe did with a belt, but with his fist, in her face. You must not forget that celebrities have people in their ear....

  • @liacashmere58 all the time. And it got to a point, where Michael only had "yes men" around him. Michael was stubborn, and when he wanted something...he'd get it. Think about having all that power. It doesn't make sense that he'd wait to talk about all that stuff, when before he'd say, "yes. I was the feisty one. I'd talk back, I'd throw shoes, and he'd beat me" now in Black culture, a "beating" isn't "pouring oil on people and whipping them"

  • @liacashmere58 idk why he said that in that Martin Bashir interview, but that was the interview that Lisa Marie said he looked high as a kite on. So I love Michael Jackson. With all my heart. But he did lie, and so did LaToya. Black folks used switches, Black folks use belts....that's not uncommon.

  • @amore2010ad1 How can you say that? La Toya told alot of lies but when she said Joe beat them she was telling the truth. Even Jermaine's ex wife in her book wrote that it was Tito who told her that Joe would beat them and pour salt in their wounds NOT Mj. Even Janet said herself Joe was ''old school'' and believed in beatings. Hell, even Joe said he did it. I don't even see how it's a debate. Did Mj lie? Yes he lied but so do most celebs. His face has nothing to do with me

  • I understand that child abusement may have been common during michael's childhood, but Joe did take it a little far in my opinion. I read that one night, joe creeped through michael's bedroom window in a fright mask and screamed, which led to mental health problems for michael, such as recuring nightmares of being kidnapped and sleeping disorders. Joe did this just so that micheal would stop leaving his bedroom wndow open at night. Bit drastic

  • LMAO .. why is Joe eye brows so evil looking !!!!!! lol

  • joe is an mk-ultra operative. he was paid by a governement cult to abuse sexually molest and kephis kids at odds with each other. katherine. was just a baby maker and i blame her also. michael suffered under them. but his spirit his soul was touched by the great balck mama. thats why he is was a blessing to us all wether he is alive or dead. he may be alive. the illuminati might have paid him to fein death. no matter what he still has good spitit. mj if you see this do right. ok

  • Joe is a silly man !!!

  • Why are Joe's eyebrows always so evil looking?

  • @MiamiPush2theLimit I know...that guy sure is creepy...

  • Thank you for posting:-)

  • Joe did beat his children..And so what? That's how it was back in those days. If the parents didn't beat the children, the neighbors will. He beat his children to teach them wrong and rights in the world, also to get better. He was a good father. If it wasn't for Joe, there would've been no Jackson Five or anything. Joe isn't ugly because his children have feautures of him and act like him in a way, which is just fine.

    I love the Jackson Family..And the people who hate are obsessed!

  • @lilbush98 You have to understand that the abuse that Michael and the others suffered was worse than just beating. I mean, ok, maybe for the others it was just beating, but Michael, he tortured the poor thing for no reason. If he messed up during rehearsal he used to beat him and throw him in a dark basement or the closet until he felt like taking him out. Michael didn't deserve that. I mean, come on now! People make mistakes at rehearsals. That's normal. Rehearsal's are for fixing mistakes.

  • Well thats on Joe, but hwo could he throw Michael in a basement when they didn't have one since their house was soo small. Joe beated his children because he knew what they could do and he's beatings came a dream come true. The pressure wasn't just on Michael, so it wasn't like he continued to pick on him.

    If Joe didn't do it, their neighbors would've. Joe doesn't deserve waht he gets from his children's fans either. They no twice as 0 about Joe so noone should bring pressure to his mind.

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  • lilbush98, put your train of thought to this test (and see if you still agree with yourself): "In 2010, people with internet site handles containing the number 98 will be sought by IP Address cops, and they will be physically and emotionally assaulted until they know the difference between what's right and wrong. Right being that IP Address cops must be loved and respected; wrong being that the number 98 is totally unacceptable."

  • Are you sick? And I have an excuse of my number being what it is. IP address cops. Dude, what's your issue?

    BTW, I don't really care:) Sorry.

  • jo wasnt abusive i just think he overbeat his children n was harsh on them theres a difference if he was abusive he wouldnt give a fuck esp during the child molestation trial n think, would he keep going on having children(nine) if he didnt care

    its cruel but they were poor and j5 was their meal ticket: joseph didnt stop to care if mj was in his room crying if the family was starving: his drive to give his family a better lifestyle overcame his discipline habits n in the end mj was tormented :(

  • He was a fuckin abuser you bitch

  • I agree, I think he was really strict and harsh and cold-- ( maybe that is abuse)because he wouldnt allow them to call him father. Well, he did call Michael names and wasnt very loving.

  • Overbeat??? If someone BEATS there kid than it's abuse!

  • remember, katherine also BEAT the children. she said so in her book that she believes in corporal punishment no matter the age of the child. however, her beatings were different from his. also back in those days, that was how it was, especially in black communities. my parents also beat me but aren't abusive. it depends on how u do it every child has limits to what they can take, and joseph was too harsh on them.

    well i guess it depends on what u mean by "beat", today it is called "spank"

  • @GUURL101 That's right and I find it funny that Michael never got upset over that. Katherine's punishments seemed to be a last resort type deal and you could equivalent it to spanking. Katherine did mention though that there are times that she would purposefully not tell Joe about some of the things the kids did, because she believed that he took the punishments too far. This information is mentioned in her book so it is from a reliable source.

    If your kid passes out when they see you then

  • @GUURL101 something is obviously wrong and it needs to be addressed. I wished that Katherine put both Joseph and Michael in some type of family counseling that way they could work through some issues that they had. Michael would have done well to get someone objective to talk with and teach him how to work through the past - trauma. My mom was beaten to the point that she does not remember anything before the age of seven. It got so bad that grown men would leave the house.

  • 9 kids......lol

    Always gonna fail with 9 kids.

    Shame,  love the music.

  • Johnny Jackson was Murdered in 2006 from being stabbed to death in the chest he was either a cousin or a brother

  • Funny what being beaten everyday will do to a person, and I don't mean Joe, I mean her manager/husband at that time, she would later say. But anyway, she was recently quoted as saying that her brother Michael was "closest" being to "God" on this earth. And Michael has recently been quoted as saying that, as a child, he wished his father dead, basically. Or, would feel nothing if he were.

  • ok well i was wrong. but they did have another brother that had died very early.

  • johnny wasnt a brother, he was only a relative

  • Johnny wasn't a relative, his last name just happened to be Jackson.

  • um yea that was Marlon's twin Brandon that died when he was a baby.

  • i think johnny was the brother right before michael. he died

  • Wow latoya makes it looks like shes suffering alot by ause when the real ones who have been abused about 95 percent more then she got abused were her brothers. I like Janet. heard she was always so close to michael and understood michael more deeper in a way then her other sisters had.

  • 0:51 woooow. you can tell tito is joes son. joe looks just like tito in this pic... or should i say .. tito looks like joe. either way.. wow

  • a christian singing family, the jacksons are no role models for muslims

  • As the story goes, Johnny Jackson was someone the family knew from Gary, Indiana. He was not related even though he shares the same last name as the jacksons. Later Motown told them to pretend that he was a cousin to help with their public image.

  • Who is johnny jackson there were 9 kids right?

    marlon, jermaine, jackie, tito, micheal, randy, janet, rebie and letoya right then since when was there a johnny??

  • latoya

  • La Toya :)

  • What a talented family xxx R.I.P Mj

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    GO TO GOOGLE AND TYPE 'MICHAEL JACKSON TRIBUTE PORTRAIT'

    WE NEED 250,000 VOTES BY MJ'S BIRTHDAY (august 29) please support this project and spread the word. : D

    this might not be the best vid to post this on but hey as long as you guys see this and support...whateva. : p

  • My mind nvr changes about Joe....Dnt get me rong I admire him and Kathrine for giving us MJ and da res of da Jacksons....but Abusing his kids on a whole nutha level is unforgetable and sad....he abused them so much they were afraid 2 see him...like that shudnt be....but i do credit him for giving them da fame i do...but da abuse...wasnt necessary...look what it did 2 MJ =( i blame his dad for his constant restructure b/c his dad always teased him smh

    I Love You MJ...RIP Sweety

  • many of you were angry about what i said about joe jackson with the whole vacation thing im here again to say im very sorry and i didnt look at the date so i didnt know please dont send me rude comments it was a little mistake i hope you all accept my apology

    -greecegirl

  • Don't come correcting me before I correct myself and yu act like yu know so much about Joe to say if he was not beating them Michael saayed he did so there yu go and when a little child 4 or 5 yrs old get a whooping they dont know the diffrence of it from beating because both of them hurt..so plz stop questioning me..

  • i think yu need to keep my name out off your comments i was going to go back and erase it so get the fuck and no i dont know him and truly dont want to after what i heard he was..?? and just because he move them to epic he still wasnt a good business mane if Michael had started to handle it all..

  • you lot all backing joe jackson like you know him personally. How? If you suffered the abuse that MJ, most of you wont be saying this. HOW NIEVE!

  • greecegirl & polokid you all need to peruse this clip again. You both got it so wrong. This is an old interview long before MJ's transition. Don't be so quick to stone this man. This is not a current interview. This is so old that Inside Edition format has since changed. There are new host like Debra Norville. Even the music of the show have since changed.

  • i think yu need to keep my name out off your comments i was going to go back and erase it so get the fuck and no i dont know him and truly dont want to after what i heard he was..??

  • Ok you're name is out. Might I suggest that you take a remedial Grammar class. You can spell the four letter word very good. Do you speak as you write? I should hope not. And I don't think you are really angry at me. You're really angry at yourself for showing your incompetence to comprehend a logical conversation.

  • and thanks for taking my name out and if i was really having a real conversation with you i let yu know how my grammar is ms or mr genious..and that comment i wrote wasnt going towards yu until yu jumped in so sorry that yu jumped in yu are real bold because the person i was talking to never replied and no im not mad for what yu was just curious i guess..

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  • when did he say he was happy mikey is dead??

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  • what are you talkin about this interview is most likely more than 16 years old! this was way before MJ's death.He meant he doesnt manage his kids anymore.

  • People will look for any excuse to rag on Joe Jackson.

  • What the hell are you smoking??? You can't tell this is atleast 15 years old?? SMH...

  • im sorry i made a mistake i didnt look at the date this was posted and i shouldnt have said that about joe jackson. but you could have been a little nicer to me instead you were rude please accept my appology i removed the comment from this

    -greecegirl910

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  • but you must give the guy love though because he could of given them a childhood if he wanted to lets be truthful but no he created our idols and i love him for it, he beat them so fucking what i got beat from norway to fucking india and it wasnt for a singing career it was for bullshit! but im just hurt nomore mike, i still believe till this day if it werent for them lying kids mike would of been on his 12th album ready to retire from music and would of smashed thriller i felt it but RIP MJ

  • @Peache17 from norway to india lmao

  • dont listen to the fucking press chat shit, katherine and jermaine already said about the dad, saying its all lies! but janet said now im only going off an interview she said her father never beat the girls it was always the boys but it does sound realistic, she said he was just controlling! jermaine always said marlon got the worse treatment out of them all but latoya looks a complete different person from young did she change her whole face or something, that nose is just terrifying

  • thats the same thing i was saying she looks completely different it looks like she got some kind of cheek implants or somethin.

  • arghhh joe jackson

    still alive....for what reason i would never know

  • That is da most hateful comment ever:(

  • they all look the same its crazy

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  • oh please!

    get the facts b4 bashing sum1 u dont even kno.

    he said earlier publicly that rumor was not true as well as the one about making mj's kids the "jackson 3"

    leave the jackson's alone. goodness

  • I heard Joe is making JAckson 5 (now 4) tour and they'd play MJ's unreleased songs with MJ hologram!!!!! Does JOe ever stop making money off of his son? Can't the brothers stand upto this SATAN, they're grown man now, STOP ACTING LIKE A VICTIM and STOP disrespecting MJ's legacy!

    I'm sick and tired of seeing JOe and family members making money using MJ's name!!!! He's not even buried, where're your integrities!

  • she wants kids, i know someone who justs had there 1st kid at 60. And mike rest in peace his yougest was 7, so u no people are having kids now a days younger and older.lol

  • Why would Katherine need to buy sleeping bags and cheap toys in a compound like this? I swear that the press are ridiculous.

  • They had a slumber party / camp out on the grounds of the compound. We live in Encino and it was a big event.

  • I think Janet should have the kids. She's the most like Michael and she'd be a stable person who's not in it for the money.

  • It's possible Janet doesn't want to have kids at all. She's past 40 and she hasnt had any yet.

  • JANET LOOKS JUST LIKE HER DADDY!

  • doesnt she

  • Johnny is their cousin...

    You can see him in early pics with the J5...

    I believe since Joe has gotten older he has gotten a lil wiser and isn't as aggressive as he used to be, ecspecially towards his kids because they are grown now! I think he has learned partially from his mistakes, but he still has a way to go...Judging from recent actions after Mike's passing...

    I will give him this, if it wasnt for him that family would proally still be in Gary..doing God knows what...

    RIP MIKE!

  • he's nt really their cousin. . .they just said tht n the beginning 4 promotional purposes,along with lying abt their ages and the fact tht diana ross discovered them...bobby taylor and gladys knight actually discovered them. . .

  • so who the hell was he...

    just a dude from down the street?

  • yea n tht ronny rancifer. . .

  • JACKSON 5 FTW.

  • who's johnny jackson?--is he a cousin?

  • no. he just was a drummer who lived down the street

  • so the last name is a coincidence then?

  • joe jackson was aight hes calm now........

  • ITV 2003 - Michael Jackson - The beatings from his father Joe Jackson. oh yeah they did. its horrible. the title above is from that documentary "living with Michael Jackson" Michael describes it. A few of his siblings have talked about other incidents too. The family really doesn't talk too much of it but when they do it's bad...like real bad. Spankings are needed with REALLY bad kids I guess but not this kind of stuff.

  • Mostly it's parents who make bad kids, by not being good parents. You don't know right and wrong when you're born, you have to be taught it.

    It's always the children who suffer with men like this. Becuase they can't defend themselves

  • I believe LaToya when she says this guy was abusive, but I don't respect her for

    sensationalism. It puts her on a par with

    this promoter who was her father.

  • The sons were Jackie, Jermaine, Marlon, Tito, Michael and Randy. The daughters were Rebbie, LaToya and Janet. Nine kids, and Michael was the standout talent

    among them. Meaning that this frustrated performer drove him harder than the rest.

  • Also the rest of the brothers and sisters were not as famous without Michael. So Michael is the only one that made the family famous and not Joe. So Joe is totally out of the picture.

  • He was fired by Michael and Janet. So why would anyone wanted to work with him. Michael had a hurger for music and Janet had a hurger for acting. Michael would've already be a big star with out Joe because how did Michael find a producer by himself without the help of Joe and became the King Of Pop? Janet wanted to act more then sing and her mother took her to audition for a part for Good Time and she did it without Joe. She became big with out Joe.

  • You're right about Joe. For those who don't know; Joe was the one that moved the J5 from Motown to Epic. The man deserves some credit. Joe was honing his childrens' skills & he did it the only way he knew how. Don't agree with the bullying but maybe he didn't know any better. He didn't left his children at the industry's discretion. He navigated them & they ran with it. Especially, Mike. He reared 9 kids & I'm sure they didn't just acquire structure & good discipline by themselves.

  • WHO IS JOHNNY JACKSON

  • He's no relation. He played keyboard for the 5.

  • if there was no joe jackson, there would be no michael jackson. think about it. though we fans feel the pain for michael and his abusive childhood, joe saw talent in michael and made him work it, and if he didnt do that, michael probably wouldnt have been who is is today and forever on, the king of pop. im not saying joe jackson was a good father to michael, but i am saying that he did help michael become who he is.

  • Perhaps. But you can guide your children without cruelty.

  • Joe did not show no emotions during the memorial...that was Michale joe come on his fans show more emotions than you his father did. Poor Kathrine

  • I wish sumbody would cut dis man sum slack...don't nobody know wut he wuz like behind closed door maybe he don't like showing his emotions infront of alot of people I'm da same way...I didn't show no emotions at my grannys funeral but as soon as I got home I went to my room and I cried maybe he's da same!!!

  • Sorry for typos -- was typing fast.

  • Joe Jackson likely abused his children like most black families did in those days. Friends of families sometimes would hit people's children. Getting a switch outside is a common thing folks can talk about. Because the Jackson's a famous and exposed to the mainstream - this type of discipline seems extreme. BUT TRUST many families behind closed doors do not look at that as "abuse" - this is a different time...what can you say...back then it was just a spanking....not abuse.

  • that doesn't make it okay

  • I disagree. It's the slave/master mentality carried through. Kids back then knew it was abuse, even if adults justified it.

  • I think Joe Jackson was EXTRA with not being sensitive and Michael was JUST THE OPPOSITE - VERY SENSITIVE - therefore, the two did not mix. But I think during the trial Michael began to appreciate Joe's sternness and toughness. He told Geraldo during his 2005 trial that he's strong like his father!

  • Of course I don't know too much about the private life of Joe Jackson and the abuse accusations. BUT to me he's not that bad. He's like most black men of that time (Civil Rights era). You had to be tough during those times when black men would be killed for the most simple mistake. Joe Jackson is just a stern guy, that keeps it too real for the mainstream media. He loves his children though...he just shows it in a different way. He too was by Michael's side during the trial.

  • Well he might just be alive and a father to his children!

  • JOe was chewing gum during memorial

    He's SATAN in human body!

  • check your facts, he actually ABUSED them!

    But that's ok for me, since Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson and the Jackson 5 were considered to be icons.

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  • I don't agree with how Joe disciplined the children and how they had no childhood, but Joe had a vision for his family and he fulfilled his dreams. He instilled this drive in his children. BTW, Michael IS THE GREASTEST ENTERTAINER OF ALL TIME and Janet damn sure did great things!

  • I WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME

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  • Joe and kathrine jackson and their chilren is a REAL Black family

  • I agree, same struggles as everyone else.

  • You know, I don't care how poor you are or how talented your children may be, there is no NO excuse for beating a child. If he didn't, yeah Michael Jackson may not have been a FLAWLESS dancer but who cares? You're a father! I'm studying to be a Kindergarten teacher and if i have evidence of a parent beating a child, I am to report them first thing. there is no asking the parent if there doing it for a good cause. Come ON people. NO!!

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  • All that I can say about this is that everybody has got some skeletons in their closets as well as in their families. It might be easy to sit back and try to judge the whole situation but no one will ever know what kind of difficulties Joe and Catherine Jackson had to endure in order to make the Jackson five the success which they became. They are a phenomenal family in spite of their hardships. They are a testament to the world that with hard word and determination anyone can make it. RIP MJ!

  • I think Joe jacskon was trying to raise his children properly the best way he knew how. His methods may have been wrong but his motives were not.

  • i hate him so much!!!

  • michael got talent...he would make it either way! its absurd to say he needed the strictness of his father to become a superstar and to make an incomparable career! he would be on the right path even though his father wouldnt hurt him...

  • What a pretty family! Especially the girls. I wish I looked like one of those women!

  • MJ's family didnt help him

    he needed love n they didnt love him

    his fans loved him but we cudnt protect him from the ugly tabloids

    we love u MJ

  • some of you say Joe Jackson made Michael sure but you dont beat the hell out of your kids nearly killing them just to get some money isnt the way to do it ..and some of you say it was right for him to punish them like that look at the end results did you not see what became of Michael he was so emotionally damaged from what this sorry excuse for a father did to him he even changed his face so he wouldnt have to look like this man

  • and Catherine Jackson wasn´t a great help at all....sad thing,really sick...Joe is extremely insane.Got no wore words for that at all.

  • i thought i was the only one who thought that ,idk what was going on in that womans head or if she was in another world while her children were getting abused i guess she was to blinded by the money

  • 2:26 love that statement

  • whoooa

    t.l.d.r

    O-o

  • when they needed to..they would not have gotten that far..!

  • So are you basically your saying that just because it was the old days it was right? No one deserves to be smacked with a tree branch.. or grabbed by the throut then thrown against the wall... or abused expecially! I know what he did by letting them get famous was great... but the whole abusing thing to get them there, wasn't right!

  • back in the day, corpal punishment was big among blacks...if it wasn't for joe, they wouldn't have gotten into music

  • I totally agree with you..Joe Jackson probably has regretted the abuse he inflicted on his children...in addition it was still wrong as hell. God blessed Michael with his talented..not his father. He would have made it regardless.

  • ur damn right annazayla

  • I agree that Joe Jackson may have scraficed personal things to see his children succeed, but I believe at first, the need for his sons to be successful in the music business was a personal goal of his FIRST and foremost and then somewhere down the line, MJ and his brothers started to enjoy performing. Joe also probably saw his children as a "gold mine" per say..you know..as a way to get out of the poverty they lived in for many years. They made, yes indeed, but it scared MJ for life.

  • hopeodmnc is right! Back in the days people got whoop with anything...especially in the south! My grandmama is a little older than Michael and she told me storys about how they got beat with anything, and she turned out great! If it wasn't for Joe Jackson pushing them you wouldn't know a Jackson 5 or a Michael Jackson!

    bklynchicka994 you stupid.. if it wasn't for Joe Jackson Michael wouldn't be here.. He's his father...he gave sperm..duh..but if Joe would have let them slack and not practice

  • What???

    He teased him for having a big nose and spots when he was young ffs what kind of father does that? that surely isnt teaching him anything. He made him feel like trash... not only did hes father tease but hes brothers teased him too because of jealousy.

    He hit him with iron chords and belts to descipline him and hes brother, having 9 kids was no excuse to treat hes kids the way he did, it was completely unacceptable!

    Michael hates him so much that he throws up when he sees him.

  • PAY ATTENTION OKAY!!!!! He did not abuse those kids! I don't care what anyone says. He had to set those kids straight. Look, he had nine kids.... nine!!!!! Can you raise nine kids in America & all of them would be successful and in the spot light? Can u?!! Look at Farrah Fawcett for instance. Her only son is in detention. So please, please, stop with the rude comments about his dad. He does care. He want his kids to be the best & not end up in a jail or on the street or a gang. He is a true dad.

  • Oh yah sure.. so to be a great dad you have to basically beat your kids to make them sucessful! And also to make the kids feel hurt and wanna barf every time they see his face! How can even begin to think that he was a good dad? How?? Why is it that every single Jackson that lived under his roof, crys when they bring him up.. Tell Me! AND PLUS!!! I bet you, that once Michael past he didn't shed one single freakin tear! All he wanted was the fame! And now he got it!

  • you must not know about blacks....yes still today people use corpal punishment so their children won't grow up to be sissy's

  • I agree with you. But I can't imagine beating my kids. I would've taken a less scarring way of punishing them. Although he made some bad choices nobody is perfect.

  • i noe mj would be there without joe .....all joe did was beat the shit outta mj ......he is not even sad tat he's dead

  • He hit him countless times if he got a dance step wrong and that was hes way of teaching them something.

    I blame him for alot of the stuff thats happened to michael.

    At the BET Awards in Los Angeles he turned up and the guy asked how he was going and he says "Im great, my family is doing pretty good" has if it was nothing and than he talks about hes album...

    This man is Trash.

  • @ 3.34 min. Doesnt latoya look like Michael after surgery????? spooky