WABC-TV 7 - Saturday Night Movie - WCBS-TV 2 - Late Show

[monkeeman1966]

I recorded this audio off of channel 7 years ago. This was the ABC night of the week movie theme that channel 7 used also. Good to see it again.

Good job!

[jpwjr1199]

I know this is random, but I seem to remember during either the Late Show or Late Late Show movies, CBS used to have an instrumental track of one section of the song "Angry Young Man"? Maybe, I'm remembering wrong, but that seems to stick out in my mind for some reason

[a1cjlock]

Dude thinks she's dinner! lol

[sd04276]

these are great thanks so much

[Colortiniz]

The trader always saves you ;-)

Very nice video aside from the bug.

[wmbrown6]

From what I could tell, the film ending prior to the "Saturday Night Movie" title sequence commencing, was of "The Pride and the Passion" (1957), with title design by the great Saul Bass. Having seen the opening, and heard the music score (not to mention the Century Schoolbook typeface which was used for the credits), that's what it was. It was obviously the type of film that was not considered suitable for WABC's (by 1987, long defunct) "4:30 Movie." Someone has "TP&TP" opening titles on YT.

[keiichiudagawa]

anpanman!

[the430movie]

I miss you!!!!

[MNRRConductor2006]

Goodness that Channel 7 WABC (NY) late movie intro brings back damn memories!! Whenever you heard that theme, you knew you was up late!!

[humbleradio]

Cool! Really is the best movie intro I've ever seen. Any idea who the cameraman is? He looks geniune and not an actor, though hard to tell of course.

[MSTS1]

I wouldn't know who he is, but I doubt if they hired an actor to be the cameraman that, 1: he would be able to operate the spinner handles very well, and 2: that the actor would wear glasses.

This guy wears glasses and probably was a cinematographer for real, I'd think.

[theschizoidman]

Actually, he'd be a camera operator (man, in those days). The DP or AC would be next to him on the crane and would not be operating the equipment.

Ridiculous huh? That's the union. For Directors it's worse. they can' t even touch the camera.

[MSTS1]

I saw (most of) a film yesterday on cable called "The Last Mogul" (2005) about MCA-Universal's Lew Wasserman. At the point in the timeline where they reach the companys' involvement in television ('60s-'70s), they ran a variation of the above WABC-7 Cameraman/Zooming-7s piece. The movie narration plays over it, but could be worth checking out for fans of this clip.

And interestingly, they ran this film the same day of the Universal City fire (6/1/08)..

[ClarenceFisher]

oh, thank you for posting this - especially the last one, the Saturday Evening Movie

[kstar8706]

Does anyone know if Harry Marks did the ABC7 Saturday Night Movie opener? It sure looks like his style.

[wmbrown6]

If that's so, then Mr. Marks was doing graphics for ABC in the 1971/72 season . . . as it was from then that the rotating cameraman shot originated, as from their weekend edition of ABC's "Movie of the Week," and then was passed down to WABC (and presumably some of the other ABC O&O's) for its various movie umbrellas over the years.

[BlackManticore]

Tired of all the CUSTOM youtubers out there changing the past to their liking. Customize your life...not my memories.

[humbleradio]

Yes, I agree. I also don't like those shows on TV, i forget the names, but they lambast the decade, by getting some folks who lived thru them, and others who didn't and basically ruining memories of precious moments. Stay clear of that series. I think they mostly do 70s.

[sixsixxsixxxx]

why should they ruin your memories? they're yours and can't be touched or diminished by anyone or anything unless you let them

[theschizoidman]

Oh really?

Humble is right. Of course they can be ruined. Anything can be ruined.

If I took a crap on your dining room table during dinner, wouldn't that ruin your appetite? Only if you let it?

Pluuuleeeez.

You're saying, only if you let it.

[FutureNewsAnchor]

@humbleradio You mean the "I Love The..." series on VH1. I like those programs. They give me a history lesson about everything that went on in pop culture before I was born.

[humbleradio]

@FutureNewsAnchor That may be it. Yes, they are informative to a point. But the angle they present, everything as kitch or something to made fun of, doesn't show an accurate or respectful picture really. It's like if I described Kurt Cobain with various pop-ups and semi celeb comments thus: "Kurt was ... "Wild," "Awesome!" "He Sang, He danced" "Now He's Dead!" "Ouch!" "Next up...P Diddy!" Would that describe an accurate presentation of Kurt Cobain? Very doubtful. Same thing here.

[HomeoftheGoodGuys]

The slide for the movie titles used on WCBS-TV and KNXT's "The Late Show", "The Late Late Show" and "Movies for a Sunday Afternoon" for years and it's a good idea to make a blank slide where I can create my own custom version.

[wmbrown6]

WCBS's Sunday movie umbrella was "Picture for a Sunday Afternoon" . . . was it KNXT/KCBS-TV who had "Movies for a Sunday Afternoon"?

[kresblain]

That was actually used at KCOP, which had it in singular tense. KNXT implemented the "Early Show" and "Picture for a Sunday Morning" umbrellas respectively.

[DanZero77]

The old WABC Popcorn/Candy title card! Sweet! That was used extensively during their Saturday/Sunday Afternoon Movie in the 1980s..

And who could forget TRADER HORN?????? Before Best Buy and Circuit City.... that was THE place to go for electronics! I still have a TV we bought from them!!!!!

[HomeoftheGoodGuys]

I remember seeing this since I was a kid, the slides for "The Late Show" was used on both WCBS-TV in New York and KNXT in Los Angeles as well as WBBM-TV in Chicago has that one as well.

[wmbrown6]

All of which are on Channel 2 (though KNXT is now KCBS-TV) . . . I noticed WCAU's "Late Show" graphics differed considerably, what did KMOX in St. Louis have?

[wmbrown6]

B.T.W., what was the film shown on Ch. 7, which ended with the line " . . . and the Spanish people in the tens of thousands who made possible this motion picture"?

[MSTS1]

I don't know; what you see here is all I have of it. The editing is on the video, not of it.

[wmbrown6]

I figured that; I was just curious as to whether you knew offhand the film that had that ending overlay. Maybe someone familiar with that movie may know . . .

[MSTS1]

I'm not saying this is the movie you asked about, but look up 'Master Stroke (1967)', on YT.

So similar...

[wmbrown6]

Maybe the same title designer could've done both . . .

[dsslave2]

Amazing!!! Those in between cards just blew me away! You have great videos!!! Was wondering if you had the original WNEW WEEKEND PLAYHOUSE opening? Or the classic CBS syncoated clock LATE SHOW opening. thanks!

[MSTS1]

I don't have those, and I'm probably running out of NYC material (I had limited access to it..).

I mostly remember WPIX and WOR here. WABC, WCBS and WCAU were switched here on one overnight only and I happened to catch it. WNEW was never on here. I think we had WCBS here in the late 70s for a couple years, but I didn't have the recorder yet, and then TV-2 was removed... Same deal with WTEV/WLNE.

[dyinglikeflies]

Funny mix.

[davemock]

We even get to see a bit of the first episode of "The Saint." Roger Moore and Shirley Eaton.

[wmbrown6]

Can't remember . . . which station aired "The Saint" at that point? (I do recall that as of 1977, the show aired on WNEW-TV.)

[dyinglikeflies]

Definitely was on 5 later. But can't remember who had it on when it was relatively new to the US market, which was way before he became Bond in like 1972 or so.

[wmbrown6]

For a point in the mid-1960's, from what I remember, the show aired locally on WNBC-TV . . . that was before the NBC network picked up the series.

[wmbrown6]

Thank you, thank you, thank you - for confirming the proper position of the audio/video sync of WABC's opening animations for their movies, as on most of their opens ("The 4:30 Movie" pre-1980, "Sunday Night Movie") the audio was moved about a second ahead, therefore messing with the timing. The bumpers were the key, now the close proves it. Again, many thanks.

[MSTS1]

wmbrown6:

I wonder since this was originally produced on film and may have been run as-film through a film chain, if they left space before sound to allow for film-breaking and splicing over a long time use.. Just an idea...

[wmbrown6]

The other key is in the timing of the zoom-out at the start, when the title comes in, and so forth.

[wmbrown6]

@MSTS1 - When ads were produced on film, there was always reserved a blank second or more of no sound for that very purpose of film splicing. (Apparently up to 36 frames or 1.5 seconds, given the 26-to-28 frame differential between picture and sound in 16mm film - varying according to whether optical or magnetic sound was used - and 20 frames for 35mm film.) I also studied the position of certain animations in this opening, and the bumpers in question.

[MSTS1]

@wmbrown6 - Well, for whatever reason they delayed audio start on their bumpers (and I figure it was technically related and not artistic), it did end up making them stand out as different. I like them that way- kind of dramatic at the opening..