Well said. You've highlighted the subtlety of bourgeois-capitalist propaganda. Most folks, while watching sit-coms, punctuated with ads, don't realize they're being indoctrinated.
Yup, little story. I was at a public place watching a video interview of Noam Chomsky few weeks ago. Some random guy saw what I was watching and began ranting. "That man is the reason this country is going to shit" blah blah blah. He also said that Noam was a Maxis, I was like NO he is not, Then spent about an hour trying to explain why he was not. It was like trying to break a brick wall with my fist. Then I lost my temper and I got kick out of the place for coursing. :(
I prefer Hahnel & Albert's term, coordinatorist economy, instead of state capitalism for the Soviet Union. Marxists-leninists can get away with pretending the system was not class-based - with a proffessional-managerial or coordinator class instead of a capitalist class - by using state-capitalist. otherwise, another interesting valuable piece. particularly that India stat. btw see davis's "late victorian holocausts" for about approx 30 million dead due to free-market imposed series of "famines"
Suharto's philosophy was called Pancasila. It was religionist and (in theory) supports welfare statism. It seems to be part of the trend of nationalist governments arising out of the context of being colonized by western imperial powers.
Communism and Capitalism are one in the same, with the same corrupt monetary system at it's heart. Advocate a resource based economy! Join the zeitgeist movement! Abolish Money!
Friend,Communism was based on the 'labor theory of value' of the classical economists,including the laissez-fair pioneering physiocrats,and advocated the abolition of currency & markets altogether,waaaaay before your zeitgeist movement.lol
Just be happy with the simple life, dude, it's the gift of comformity...getting together with the church buddies feeling part of something. Don't worry about the world. If your mind is liberated, you are liberated.
I love how everybody loves pointing out the Pol Pot regime and how murderous they were but look the other way when you tell them it was communists who stopped the genocide in Cambodia.
You're absolutely correct. "Communists" r not monotholic... if we applied this standard, we could argue the U.S. is a one-party state (the Capitalist Party or something)...
Double standards. A famine in a socialist country is caused by bad policies, a famine in a capitalist country is a natural disaster. there r communist/marxist rebels, dictators etc, never capitalist rebels, dictators terrorists etc. LIKE YOU SAID. Exactly right!
Really, so hitler was a communist. Well then why did he put the communists in concentration camps? Franco, a fascist leader in Spain killed thousands of communists. Mussolini, a fascist member of Hitler's axis, said that fascism is about establishing a corporate state.
Great reply there SEJ. Shows you really are a deep thinker. What makes you think China is "Communist"? Because they say it? Did you believe that East Germany was Democratic just because they called themselves the German Democratic Republic? Did you bother listening what the guy in the video had to say about how the term Communism is used? The majority of the Chinese economy is in private hands. That comrade, makes it Capitalist. Nazi Germany had a Capitalist economy too.
On the point you make about not hearing about "capitalist terrorists" and "capitalist rebels" is very true. In the corporate media, FARC in Colombia are always painted as some fringe extremist group ready to slit the throat of any man, woman and child. It's all because they're Marxists rebelling against a capitalist government. If it was Americans rebelling against a Marxist leader, it would be praised and a display of "patriotism."
I dont like how you represented communists... Communists and anarchists should be like brothers, they essentially want the samething, communists are more rational of course, it seems, until you talk to an anarchist who recognizes this...communism is essentially anarchism, a form of anarchism...
Dialectic is pseudoscience. It's basically the product of Hegel's reactionary idealism. That German revolutionaries embraced it is a demonstration of the poverty of revolutionary thought of the time, and the necessity of radical theorists to reappropriate reactionary mental constructs because of the then lack of a revolutionary intellectual foundation.
Materialism is important as an analytic framework, but it must be grounded in empiricism, not the intellectual wanking known as dialectic.
its true that anarchists and communists want the same thing, but they want it in different ways.
i personally respect communists as people, and i am willing to talk, discuss, and come to conclusions with them, because i think this is necessary. the more communists and anarchists understand each other, the better it will be in the end and the easier it will be to decide upon how to act on political levels.
What are you talking about? anarchism is not a brother to communism, if your saying that then you can see the same for all government systems. Democracies then are true brothers to anarchism no. Anarchism is very complex but yet very simple. It goes into the human desire for freedom, however people naturally gravity to government, The idea of a state issuing and telling you what to do goes against individual will. Even in democracies, there are flaws that goes againt individual will. not same.
True but that does not make them brothers it equals to about the same in Capitalism. Which has socialist concepts as well. which is what sold the american dream so well. Hard work gets you anything, no one is better than you. None is better no is worse, they have their pros and cons. They have the same principal components, just to different degrees. The state must direct individual force, that goes against free will, even if the end is good. Again, flaws in both, one is not better.
If you liked that, check out Noam Chomsky, you'll love him. For example google his article 'International Terrorism: Image and Reality', where he does to the word 'terrorism' what mr1001nights does to 'communism' in this video. It's definitely going to change your perspective on things.
I will check it out. I like Noam Chomsky, he sometimes has more refined views on my insights. Terrorism, its actually funny the way it is used and what it means in reality verus the actual use of it and perception of how it should be handled. Terrorism is and has become the new term to replace Guerrilla fighter, lol.
Excellent video; it is very annoying when people these days who have not done their homework call you a communist like some preprogrammed response (which it is because of the very narrow capitalist propaganda infested media imposed on us everyday) when people start discussing the direct democratic control of the means of production and education.
How important is it for us to draw distinction between the different types of capitalism? ex. Sweden, the US and China (to a degree) are all very different forms of capitalism.
The brutal regime which collapsed in the former soviet bloc was State Run Capitalism.Nationalisation = State Capitalism,the workers remain wage slaves forced to sell their labour power to the state employer.
Well said. You've highlighted the subtlety of bourgeois-capitalist propaganda. Most folks, while watching sit-coms, punctuated with ads, don't realize they're being indoctrinated.
Danarchistic1 2 weeks ago
Yup, little story. I was at a public place watching a video interview of Noam Chomsky few weeks ago. Some random guy saw what I was watching and began ranting. "That man is the reason this country is going to shit" blah blah blah. He also said that Noam was a Maxis, I was like NO he is not, Then spent about an hour trying to explain why he was not. It was like trying to break a brick wall with my fist. Then I lost my temper and I got kick out of the place for coursing. :(
N0g0dzN0masterz 10 months ago
This video definitely sums up the whole notion of a double standard.
OneforEating 1 year ago
I prefer Hahnel & Albert's term, coordinatorist economy, instead of state capitalism for the Soviet Union. Marxists-leninists can get away with pretending the system was not class-based - with a proffessional-managerial or coordinator class instead of a capitalist class - by using state-capitalist. otherwise, another interesting valuable piece. particularly that India stat. btw see davis's "late victorian holocausts" for about approx 30 million dead due to free-market imposed series of "famines"
slainemacroth 1 year ago
Suharto's philosophy was called Pancasila. It was religionist and (in theory) supports welfare statism. It seems to be part of the trend of nationalist governments arising out of the context of being colonized by western imperial powers.
dadrogon 1 year ago
Communism and Capitalism are one in the same, with the same corrupt monetary system at it's heart. Advocate a resource based economy! Join the zeitgeist movement! Abolish Money!
skept1c615 1 year ago
@skept1c615
Friend,Communism was based on the 'labor theory of value' of the classical economists,including the laissez-fair pioneering physiocrats,and advocated the abolition of currency & markets altogether,waaaaay before your zeitgeist movement.lol
thirdshift47 10 months ago
Just be happy with the simple life, dude, it's the gift of comformity...getting together with the church buddies feeling part of something. Don't worry about the world. If your mind is liberated, you are liberated.
riverlioness 1 year ago
I love how everybody loves pointing out the Pol Pot regime and how murderous they were but look the other way when you tell them it was communists who stopped the genocide in Cambodia.
Mabuza14 2 years ago 15
You're absolutely correct. "Communists" r not monotholic... if we applied this standard, we could argue the U.S. is a one-party state (the Capitalist Party or something)...
Double standards. A famine in a socialist country is caused by bad policies, a famine in a capitalist country is a natural disaster. there r communist/marxist rebels, dictators etc, never capitalist rebels, dictators terrorists etc. LIKE YOU SAID. Exactly right!
hell, Nazism, fascism, juntas... capitalist crimes!
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fettergraf 2 years ago 6
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"Nazism, fascism...... capitalist crimes!"
I often wonder why socialists are so stupid and ignorant.
Wraith23 2 years ago
Really, so hitler was a communist. Well then why did he put the communists in concentration camps? Franco, a fascist leader in Spain killed thousands of communists. Mussolini, a fascist member of Hitler's axis, said that fascism is about establishing a corporate state.
bigpapi255 2 years ago 4
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Mussolini also said "Fascism is the complete opposite of Marxian Socialism".
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Mussolini also said "Fascism is the complete opposite of Marxian Socialism".
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Mussolini also said "Fascism is the complete opposite of Marxian Socialism".
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Mussolini also said "Fascism is the complete opposite of Marxian Socialism".
Sismiques 1 year ago
Socialism isn't bad at all. Most of Europe is Democratic-Socialist.
Cyclonus21 1 year ago
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Sure, lemmings observe, "everyone's jumping, it can't be bad."
riverlioness 1 year ago
@riverlioness haha no.
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fettergraf 2 years ago 4
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"Capitalist genocide"........LOL
Wraith23 2 years ago
I'm just hoping that you mean Bukharin's Socialism In One Country as opposed to National Socialism, or Nazism.
samsonlovesyou 2 years ago 9
Respect fellow comrade, you speak the truth!
Zamolxx 3 years ago 21
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i see you posted this on an appropriate day.
jdhf983y4uhu 3 years ago
Maybe you would rather live in Haiti? They have great private school I hear.
badmuffy 3 years ago 24
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Because China and Cuba are great places to live.
amirite?
SlapEveryJew 3 years ago
China is Capitalist.
Marconi76 3 years ago 27
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Are you brain-dead?
SlapEveryJew 3 years ago
Great reply there SEJ. Shows you really are a deep thinker. What makes you think China is "Communist"? Because they say it? Did you believe that East Germany was Democratic just because they called themselves the German Democratic Republic? Did you bother listening what the guy in the video had to say about how the term Communism is used? The majority of the Chinese economy is in private hands. That comrade, makes it Capitalist. Nazi Germany had a Capitalist economy too.
Marconi76 3 years ago 24
Agree! The fact that the media calls China communist is a living proof that there is a fucking conspiracy against the left!
Anarkokommunist 3 years ago 20
fucking right
seigneurvoland666 2 years ago
Every economic market has capitalistic principals and socialistic principals. If you want to put it like that, countries are technically Capitalist.
Ryukikon 2 years ago
Which also connects to the whole Propaganda Model by Herman & Chomsky
destructicon500 3 years ago 19
On the point you make about not hearing about "capitalist terrorists" and "capitalist rebels" is very true. In the corporate media, FARC in Colombia are always painted as some fringe extremist group ready to slit the throat of any man, woman and child. It's all because they're Marxists rebelling against a capitalist government. If it was Americans rebelling against a Marxist leader, it would be praised and a display of "patriotism."
destructicon500 3 years ago 38
Socialism/Communism = A Classless Stateless Moneyless system of society.A world without man made borders and the abolition of the wages system.
majorMcpharter 3 years ago 15
I dont like how you represented communists... Communists and anarchists should be like brothers, they essentially want the samething, communists are more rational of course, it seems, until you talk to an anarchist who recognizes this...communism is essentially anarchism, a form of anarchism...
seigneurvoland666 3 years ago
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'Communism' and 'rational' are a contradiction of terms.
jipemaster 3 years ago
No they actually go hand in hand, learn about Dialectical Materialism, and try again
nauselom 3 years ago
Dialectic is pseudoscience. It's basically the product of Hegel's reactionary idealism. That German revolutionaries embraced it is a demonstration of the poverty of revolutionary thought of the time, and the necessity of radical theorists to reappropriate reactionary mental constructs because of the then lack of a revolutionary intellectual foundation.
Materialism is important as an analytic framework, but it must be grounded in empiricism, not the intellectual wanking known as dialectic.
XBlackFlagX 3 years ago 9
its true that anarchists and communists want the same thing, but they want it in different ways.
i personally respect communists as people, and i am willing to talk, discuss, and come to conclusions with them, because i think this is necessary. the more communists and anarchists understand each other, the better it will be in the end and the easier it will be to decide upon how to act on political levels.
god0fmusic 3 years ago
What are you talking about? anarchism is not a brother to communism, if your saying that then you can see the same for all government systems. Democracies then are true brothers to anarchism no. Anarchism is very complex but yet very simple. It goes into the human desire for freedom, however people naturally gravity to government, The idea of a state issuing and telling you what to do goes against individual will. Even in democracies, there are flaws that goes againt individual will. not same.
Ryukikon 3 years ago
the goal of communism is to eliminate the need for government where the ppl would run there own things
prjctcivilian 2 years ago 7
True but that does not make them brothers it equals to about the same in Capitalism. Which has socialist concepts as well. which is what sold the american dream so well. Hard work gets you anything, no one is better than you. None is better no is worse, they have their pros and cons. They have the same principal components, just to different degrees. The state must direct individual force, that goes against free will, even if the end is good. Again, flaws in both, one is not better.
Ryukikon 2 years ago
wait, where did i comment/ how did u reply i dont know what i said ahh
prjctcivilian 2 years ago
happens, you did bring up a valid point still. Your a really intelligent guy.
Ryukikon 2 years ago 3
wat b/c i cant find what i wrote a bit back
prjctcivilian 2 years ago
If you liked that, check out Noam Chomsky, you'll love him. For example google his article 'International Terrorism: Image and Reality', where he does to the word 'terrorism' what mr1001nights does to 'communism' in this video. It's definitely going to change your perspective on things.
Dalambam 2 years ago
I will check it out. I like Noam Chomsky, he sometimes has more refined views on my insights. Terrorism, its actually funny the way it is used and what it means in reality verus the actual use of it and perception of how it should be handled. Terrorism is and has become the new term to replace Guerrilla fighter, lol.
Ryukikon 2 years ago
Excellent video; it is very annoying when people these days who have not done their homework call you a communist like some preprogrammed response (which it is because of the very narrow capitalist propaganda infested media imposed on us everyday) when people start discussing the direct democratic control of the means of production and education.
Aleksandr711 3 years ago 29
very true, excellent points.
07sawyerr 3 years ago 39
How important is it for us to draw distinction between the different types of capitalism? ex. Sweden, the US and China (to a degree) are all very different forms of capitalism.
AllieCaulfield 3 years ago 23
Great video, favorited.
Are you an anarcho-syndicalist? Just wondering, I've only seen a few of your videos so far so forgive me if you've mentioned it already.
atheismislogic65 3 years ago 24
The brutal regime which collapsed in the former soviet bloc was State Run Capitalism.Nationalisation = State Capitalism,the workers remain wage slaves forced to sell their labour power to the state employer.
majorMcpharter 3 years ago 21
The Sapir--Whorf hypothesis in action.
Pananarchist 3 years ago 17