FOreman was just a strong idiot in the ring. All ALi did was see how george kept his hands down or they were never blocking so he just through straight hands. He did lay on the ropes all the time too which they don't allow really and the reason the people are cheering all the time is because it's in africa. Oh and ALi isn't out of his prime he's not old here He's the only one to blame if you think he lost his step he just didn't train as hard because he believed he was the best.
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...... A 32yr Old Boxer is in his Prime ... Specially when they a HeavyWeight .. George was a Kid ... and had no Chance against Ali .. check George's Interviews about this Fight .... Ali 32 .... George 24 .... George given a Lesson in Humbleness
In my opinion, this is one of the greatest fights of all time. When else has an old, fading ex- HW champ come back and out-ring generaled a truly great younger champion to reclaim his title? Foreman was in the top ten HW of all time in many experts opinions, and here is old Ali, now lacking his former footwork and reflexes, able to prevail in this brutal fight with a peak Foreman who had slaughtered the great Frazier and seemed invincible. Ali is so cagey here, and displays great heart.
the referee should've given Foreman a slower count, so he could've gotten up in time. That way Ali would've finished him even more powerfully and completely knocked out Foreman.
uh yeah, not a whole lot of future of leaning into ali the whole fight with your hands down. i remember this fight, the whole time they kept saying wait for foreman's "right", he's stetting up the "right", ali just covered up and let him go at it, once you saw foreman wear himself out and the "right" wasn't there...
ali had an amazing ability to adapt his style to the opponent. there were times when dundee had no idea what he was doing, but ali was always thinking on his feet.
@MeTaLdUdE02 rocky marciano you mean the guy that fought an old as fuck lewis and fought those useless boxers??? boxing was not as strong as ali's era and if you belive that video where marciano "beats" ali then you are just a golf fan nothing else i can say, yes he retired undefeated so wat?? did he fight any fighters that were actually worth it?? did ali fight the best boxers and still managed to beat them??? YES. please stfu stick to golf t.hanks
@ThePeRuAno18 gee i'm sorry, maybe you don't keep up with standards back then. let me explain to you: back then, heavyweight boxing was not all george forman/cassius clay stuff. back then, rocky marciano was young, and he also retired in his 30's. he came back in his 40's (yes, an old guy) and still won. it doesnt matter if ali or anyone else was bigger than him, marciano would never stay down. whereas most boxers today will stay down and accept defeat, rocky never did.
While this is one of the greatest fights in boxing history, keep in mind that Ali is old here, and extremely slow by the standards of what he was in his prime. Check him out in '66, fighting Williams or London, to judge his at the top of his game.
Fastest feet and reflexes of any heavyweight ever. People tend to rate him low in defense, because he fought with his hands down, when in fact, his defense was better than any boxer who held his arms up. He was simply unique.
The more you watch this fight the more you realize how Ali sized up Foreman early on, realized he couldn't rely on his footwork at 32+years and decided to use his crafty experiance and wait like a possum until Foreman wore himself down.
People forget that Ali was very far from his prime here, and relying on his big heart and brains instead of his once amazing footspeed. It's stunning just how far Ali got this late in his career. There was no luck here at all. Guts, experiance and strategy.
why are you guys even arguing about this? there's a video in the suggestions of the both of them on a talk show going back and forth about how the other one is better: tyson said repeatedly ali is the greatest of all time and how he was his biggest inspiration and ali says how he's a dancer, but if he got hit by tyson it'd be ugly and tyson says how ali's fought much stonger guys... it's actually really funny so i think the arguments pretty pointless
Why is this even a conversation, Tyson did have great technique and was fast, but he never beat anyone worth mentioning, he couldn't even handle Holyfield. What do you think Foreman would have done to him??? Come on man think, Ali destroyed Foreman at a older age. Holyfield Barely beat Foreman when he came out of retirement. Put it together, tyson wouldn't last in the ring with Ali. What is your logic????
@SCOTTIERAP So Larry Holmes, Frank Bruno, Nrian Nielsen just to name a few aren't worth mentioning? And have you even seen the Tyson Holyfield fights? I'd like to see how good you do after getting headbutt so many times and so hard that you get cut, Holyfield is a fucking punk. He headbutted, gone for more low blows than any other fighter I can think of, and ontop of that there is the steroid and hgh usage. A prime Tyson vs Foreman or Ali would be a great fight. But a prime Tyson is unbeatable.
@Thagame07 TROLL. tyson almost lost to fucking Bruno in his prime. Ali went up against top class boxers and tyson only had holyfield to deal with and he lost twice to him. Lennox Lewis was alright has well, oh yeah tyson lost to him aswell. who can you say tyson beat who is a top WORLD champion? Ali beat Frazier, Foreman, Sonny Liston. ALI GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!! and just to and its not all about boxing, Ali was and the best entertainer in boxing, he make the best rymes while tyson boring....
@BoAMightyreds Haha, I love how I can't even have a fucking opinion without being called a "Troll". Everything I said was true, and when did I ever say "MIKE TYSONZ DA GREATEST EVA! LAWL!" Thats a fucking troll, I made valid points and said it would be a great fight. And Ali is not the greatest of all time, you probably say that because you follow what everyone else says. Joe Louis is the greatest HEAVYWEIGHT boxer of all time. Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest boxer overall.
@BoAMightyreds And the fight with Sonny Liston was fucking fixed you idiot.Ali "KO'd" Liston with a phantom punch,look up Sonny Liston and the mafia and you will know what I'm talking about.And so what if Tyson was "Boring" outside the ring, maybe he didn't want to look like a fucking clown.And how is Ali the greatest he got beat by Frazier and lost The Fight Of The Century? Like I said, Tyson vs Ali would be amazing. I never said Tyson would fucking destroy Ali, it would be impossible 2 predict
@Thagame07 Tyson had talent but was a bum. He didn't beat anybody worth talking about and lost all the big fights. As exciting as he may have been, he wouldn't even be in the top 10 greatest heavyweights of all time.
@upthecelts2 He beat up Larry Holmes and Holmes was very highly regarded heavy weight, plus all those other heavy weights he smashed don't seem worth talking about because he made them look so bad. In his prime there was no one who could even challenge the man. All the other guys, Like Lewis and Holyfield fought Tyson way past his prime, a 20 year old Tyson would have murdered them as he did all other guys who were put in front of him.
@Thagame07 Before you start running your mouth you might want to read up on stuff bud. He got beat by Frazier and lost The Fight of the Century???? The Fight of the Century was against Frazier you idiot...and he beat him twice after that fight. He also beat Liston twice...and once he was half blind (because Liston was cheating)...so even if Liston did throw the second fight, he had already beat him up before that. So get it right or shut up!
@Mick1416 You sound like a fucking retard, you pretty much didn't make any kind of sense when trying to talk about The Fight of the Century. You pretty much repeated what I said dumb fuck, and why do people dick ride Ali so much? You probably haven't seen more than 2 or 3 Ali fights. And you probably skip to the end because you don't find them intresting. And Ali isn't the greatest of all time. That title can be used for Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, and Rocky Marciano only IMO.
@BoAMightyreds one person off the top of my head who was well known and heavy weight champ was tony tucker who was beaten by mike tyson though mike tyson could have done better, so i disagreethat he fought no one worth mentioning while i do agree that ali was an overall better fighter but you have to admit tyson was pretty good
Foreman himself said that Tyson was a phenomenon hitting atleast as hard as him and Frazier, but with the speed of Ali. If that is correct, it would make him better than them all.
Muhammad Ali was and will probably be Greatest Boxer that ever lived.
Mike Tyson was great also, he had flexibility, speed, power, technique but he was really inferior to Ali mentality wise.
Also Ali had incredible jaw, he withstood punches from guys like Earnie Shavers, George Foreman, Joe Frazier (got up on count of 3 from most vicious left hook ever). And as fast Tyson was Muhammad had faster hands and was more elusive. Who knows who would win as they are both favorites, but i go for Ali.
@june1683 The ref was saving Foreman from anymore embarrassment.. I agree it was the quickest 10 count I ever seen in any sport. Ali could have easily hit him one more time when he was going down but he didn't. It was a classy move. I think other boxers like Mike Tyson would have given him so extra hits on the way down to make sure he didn't get up. Mike Tyson was a beast in his early days. I really wonder who would have won when both were in their primes.
@Cme80 Foreman most likely. Tyson's style was made for Foreman. Tyson would be running into a train head on. The only way Tyson could fight Foreman would be on the inside, thats pretty much a bad idea against someone like Foreman. I can see Foreman knocking out Tyson in 3 rounds.
@vladiator100 Right.... Foreman had hardly any combinations and he was not nearly as fast as Tyson at his best. Tyson had the ability to deliver multiple and fast combinations and I dont think Ali would have lasted very long if standing against the ropes against Tyson. He was much better to set himself up against that kind of tactics. Foreman was more of a puncher and less a boxer.
See how Tyson finished Bruno: /watch?v=PTK_4zl96mk
@Norwegian733 Ali was to fast on his feet for Tyson to catch up. Ali could dance for 15 rounds while Tyson had trouble running for 6. Ali would jab his way to a late KO on Tyson. But that wasn't even my point. I mentioned Foreman not Ali, I don't see Tyson lasting more than 3 rounds against Foreman, Foreman was never a boxer and that didn't stop him from being eating inside boxers like Tyson for lunch.
Ali's combination on Foreman at the end was so fast the announcer was late on calling it. Foreman was inches from the canvas when the announcer realized Ali had landed a combination....
ali's the best who's ever seen it done it and lived it lived it seen it and done it from whoopen foreman to whoopen frazier u cant stop the mans shine even when he loses he wins that man is the greatest
why do people say who woud win Ali or Tyson? Who was the hardest opponent Tyson faced? maybe Holyfield. Ali would've destroyed Holyfield. Ali and tyson are in a completely different league. Tyson fought easy fights, Ali fought true challenging opponents, Frazier, Foreman ,Norton etc.Maybe if you compared Ali to joe louis then there would be a good arguement
@origamu purely opinion . nobody had the same inside power as tyson, not even butterbean. if ali were the same height and reach as tyson he would be a stepping stool for tyson. the "ultimate greats" happen to have size on their side.
mike tyson has a lung problem thats why he was so gung ho on the knock-out he was also really short with a small reach ali could out jab him for five rounds then take the fight to him when he was tired and ko-him
@rubberegg like he did in all of his fights basically :/ its strange that all the "best fighters" happen to be over 6 ft tall.. Whoda guessed that height and reach would effect the outcome.
Its like a person with a machete vs a person with a sword. make sense? put ali on the ropes with tysons inside power and its game over
@familyguyman2008 Yeah i know hes also my favorite boxer,. but ya gotta check out his opponents,. sure hes fought a couple journymen tall dudes,. but when he got to Lewis (6 ft 5) he lost,. just saying the taller you are the easyr it is for you in boxing,. like a sniper game and one person gets a handgun while the other gets a rifle,.Given both shooters had the same skill ,the rifle will always be more accurate.
@raygordon but if he stuck to the point game he would lose because they were out of his range. he would have to work twice as hard to get the same amount from strikes from his lengthier oponents. so tysons realistic choice was to knock his opponent out.
Ali would have knocked George out anyway, but why did they count George out at 8 1/2 seconds and not the full 10. It's cleary not at 10 seconds when they stopped it..
foreman's punches are stronger than tyson and still got his ass whooped... muhammad ali can take punches and wouldn't have let tyson get close enough.
If Ali Trashed talked 21yr old mike tyson and really pissed him off . Even with the best chin, hard as hell to really hit (unless he wants you to ...lol then call you names" A young pissed Tyson would stalk him ...stalk him. take a few shots..only.Ali could take maybe 3 of Tysons brutal upperbombs. Mike Tyson had the most brutal uppercut in boxing history. Ali /greatest. But waiting for Tyson to knock someones head off watch anyday over
Did you ever see those videos of the "pepsis wasp" and the tarantula? The wasp lets the tarantula think it's going to kill it so the tarantula will be vulnerable. Then, at the last second the wasp sneaks in a few stings and it's all over.
Ali fought just like that. He played on his oponent's over confidence and exhausted them. Ali knew what he was doing the whole time. Watching these old fights is like watching an old movie where you know the ending, but it's cool to see how it went down.
I didnt think George was on the ground for a 10 cound. George got ripped off, it doesnt matter if all the punches were doing damage as long as you hit the guy more times and dont get knocked out. He was tired but got up quickly. George can take a punch to the face better than anybody.
Meh. It seems to me Ali was getting some great hits in- when he wasn't on the ropes or grabbing Foreman's head. I mean, ya, as a fighter he's a winner, but he isn't a very fun boxer to look at in this one. Ali is great, but I think the fight should have gone to George.
This is Ali? I'm not impressed. 2 punches to the back of the head and a following of nostalgic braindead commentating faggots. Wasn't the era of boxing great..
@SaeedBaba Totally punched himself out. Different when Ali tries the rope-a-dope on Frazier. Frazier is much shorter with a lower center of gravity. His body punch have a greater effect because they have the full impact of Joe's weight behind the punch. George is tall with looping punches. All the impact comes from the arms. That's why he got tired and his punches lost effect. That's how he got knocked out. Not because of loose ropes or someone tampering with his water. He was the "DOPE'
@bangitslo Also the fast and effective punches by Ali. Most people don't know how effective they are. The number of direct punches from Ali on the head of Forman is many times more than Formans.
@Madhofd He didn't really, the referee actually picked up the count at 3, from the ringside official. The commentator incorrectly began counting aloud at 3, when the referee was actually at 4. Start the count yourself, as soon as Foreman hits the canvas and you'll see that he didn't quite make it to his feet by the 10 count.
@arniemazmaz because it was obvious to the ref he was still out of it and not recovering even though he was up. they go by whether you are coherent or not to continue the fight.
it doesnt really download... the signal is shitty...whatever it is, it just doesnt download...one of the most legendar box match by the shittiest signal quality...that must be fate...
2 secondly Ali was never knocked out tyson relied alot on the knockout. Once hed reach round 6 or 7 his effectivess would greatly decrease and Ali would win every round.
3. Tyrell biggs fought a PRIME tyson and won the first round using an ali style with about one tenth of ali's effectiveness. However he didnt keep it up. Ali would have kept it up for fifteen.
ok (sigh) I hate to put ali-tyson comments on a great fight like this but if it shuts the tyson fanatics up here goes.
1. First of all prime ali would be constantly throwing punches. Prime tyson would throw one combination at a time and often went for spells of 10-15 seconds without punching. During this time ali would land crisp punches on tyson, head movement or no, which would rack up points.
@octopusmagnificens You ignorant chappie, you forget that Ali had a four year suspencion due to the Vietnam war in wich he refused to take part of. If that suspencion wasn't given by the supreme court of the U.S.A. during Ali's prime years, Ali would be even greater than the greatest of all time!!! Know your facts before you write something
@octopusmagnificens What do you mean he's fat? He was incredibly lean and fast. No one could keep up with him in the 60's and everyone knew who the greatest was. So get with the program asshole.
@sharkxxxs i love both tyson and ali as great fighters but, ali could only win on a split decision, tyson could match alis speed and endurance. mike could most probly win by ko if he did win, but i agree with what your saying.
@JynxBoxing Ali in his prime would wear Tyson down until he Ko'd him with the jab and super human speed combination. You probably don't know hat since you're too young, but I thought I would just tell you.
@jasontester3 You are absolutely right. And guess what? Tyson NEVER scored a knockout after the 7th round in his entire career. What comes after 7? "Nuff said!
Ali was genius . But 8 out 10 people would turn the channel If a Young Mike Tyson fight was coming on. Ali could do things other never will. unreal stuff.
But a robeless,21 year old champ ..who looked like a killer, 80million in his wallet, and you knew he was going to Brutally KO ANYONE quickly. Big mothers out cold standing. Right hand and your 7ft away. The most brutal,KO uppercuts ever .knowing people were about to be ko'd silly or ali's ffancyfeet,new poem.lol yawnzzz
Why is here a discussion about Tyson vs Ali! Damn, Foreman nevar had a chance to win Ali & this ain`t a prime Ali. Foreman is the slowest boxer ever to achieve so much in this sport.
It is amazing to watch two great warriors of this caliber and to STILL hear people extolling Tyson's virtues. He was fast and he was powerful, yes, but he was also very, very limited on his feet and his chin was suspect; Mike Tyson lost when it mattered most. Douglas, Holyfield both destroyed him and thereafter he was nothing more than a sausage eater. He NEVER defined himself against greatness in the way that Ali did in the 70's. Bottom line: Mike just appealed to the thug lovers.
@fktheworld1 I already explained about Tyson being in prison. You definitely have a short memory lol. It is all there in black and white go back and read my posts. You were proved wrong in everything you said. I can't be bothered talking about the same crap so don't reply to any more of my posts as I will not be reading them.
@fktheworld1 But Tyson never beat anyone even at his best whereas Ali beat an undefeated prime Foreman. There is a difference lol. Did you even read what I wrote in my posts? And in addition to that Tyson got his ass handed to him by an old man in Holyfield whereas a younger Holyfiled got took the distance with a geriatric Foreman lol. Although the older Foreman would have probably beat a peak Tyson lol.
I broke down what I had already wrote weeks ago so you can understand it better and all that lol. But I have to confess you still won't agree as you are obviously infatuated by Tyson and Tyson's career. I don't normally discuss the same topic as much as this but you are amusing me with your ridiculous comments about Tyson lol.
If Foreman had beaten Ali then he would never have lost to Jimmy Young. And he would have demolished Lyle easier as well as he would not have been ring rusty if he had beat Ali as he would not have been inactive as long. Plus George was not mentally right after the humiliation in Zaire when he fought Lyle but still won after being decked twice by Lyle in the 4th round.
Stop acting like an idiot as you know I meant Tyson never beat anyone that beat him as he lost a rematch to Holyfield albeit by disqualification and never fought any of the other people in rematches that beat him ie Lewis and Douglas. And you said Tyson was mentally weak. Well if that is the case then he would not stand a chance against Ali as Muhammad Ali was the master of psychological warfare. One taunt to Tyson from Ali and Mike would be mentally crushed lol.
@dave10172 omg wat a dum fool.... tyson only rematched once against holyfield and he got DQed so whats ur point ur gona judge a fighter by only 1 fight?.... douglas didnt want a rematch so he retiried....and if u think tyson wasent past his prime against the lewis fight than ali lost fair and square to holmes and berbick whom tyson destroyed...
tyson was weak mentally when cuz died only cus knew how to keep tyson storng mentally thats why ppl like don king took over and runied his carrer
@fktheworld1 I meant someone that beat him lol. You are definitely looking for anything to back up your argument now. Read my posts again, I said Tyson never beat anyone that beat him. You need to conquer your rage and stop being a crusader. And I said Lewis beat Galota quicker than Tyson did ie Lewis annihilated Galota in 94 seconds whereas Mike took three rounds.
@fktheworld1 He was mentally weak therefore he would not stand a chance against Ali as Muhammad Ali was the master of psychological warfare. One taunt from Ali before the fight or during the fight and Tyson would be mentally crushed lol. And even if Ali never got acquitted and did time in prison I would bet my house on him being stronger mentally than Tyson when he was released.
I could be the next best thing for all you know. Or my son could be the next best thing for all you know. You can argue with me until you are blue in the face but I will not agree with you as I am only interested in good old dave10172's opinion just like Ali was only interested in good old Ali's or Clay's opinion as Joe Frazier said lol. I must be the greatest, I told the world, I talk to God everyday. If God is on my side then no one can beat me, I shook up the world lol....
You can argue with me until you are blue in the face but I will never agree with you as I am only interested in good old dave10172's opinion just like Ali was only interested in good old Ali's or Clay's opinion as Joe Frazier said lol. I must be the greatest, I told the world, I talk to God everyday. If God is on my side then no one can beat me, I shook up the world lol. Who said that and who were they talking about? I bet you don't know lol.
....starting from the house of Normandy and William I (William The Conqueror). I could be the next big thing in boxing for all you know. Or my son could be the next big thing for all you know lol. And someone will come along at heavyweight who is better than all of the past champions put together and if you are or were still around you would still be saying Tyson was the greatest when he never even beat the best fighters of his era, you fool lol.
@dave10172 tyson beat every one in his prime but just fuked him self up....and no the will never be no more heavyweights any more after tyson....boxing died after tyson left....now only mayweather and paquio are left after them its finished ppl r into MMA now....u hate tyson so much if there was no tyson than boxing wud have died in the late 80s...thank tyson give ur brit tomato can boxers like lewis a chance
@fktheworld1 dude ill bet u a 100 years from now tyson wud still be rembered more than foreman, ali, frazier, holyfield.....i mean no boxing fans right now only know 2 boxers Tyson and ALI thats it....tomato cans like foreman, frazier and espically lewis and are nothing
@fktheworld1 How can you sit behind your keyboard and call Lennox Lewis a tomato can? Tyson never beat anyone that was any better than what Lewis beat ie Klitschko and Tua would have destroyed Tyson lol. And Lewis drew (but won really) and beat Holyfield a couple of years after Holyfield humiliated Tyson twice lol. Ali fough tomato cans? A prime 25 year old undefeated Foreman who went 40-0-0 before Ali knocked him out in Zaire was a tomato can lol? fktheworld1....shut up lol.
@fktheworld1 Tyson will be remembered for conquering bums ie Smith, Berbick, Spinks etc and losing every time he fought someone decent ie Holyfield and Lewis lol. And don't say Tyson was in prison and was old when he fought Lewis as Lennox was older than Tyson and got knocked out by McCall and Rahman when he was younger whereas Mike got his ass handed to him by an older Lewis lol. I would hardly call an undefeated prime Foreman who went 40-0-0 with 37 knockouts including second round wins....
@fktheworld1 ....over a peak Frazier and a peak Norton - 2 men who beat Ali whereas older Norton gave a peak Holmes hell while losing a split decision lol. Do you know anything about boxing. Tyson will be remembered more than Ali and Foreman in 100 years lol. That is the best joke I have heard in ages. Have you ever considered becoming a comedian? He will be remembered alright - by his deluded fans who have a crusade against any fighter that isn't Tyson. I don't know why I am still replying....
@fktheworld1 ....to your post as your comments are just getting more and more ridiculous lol. Although Tyson was a good fighter in his own right the only thing Tyson will be remembered for really is getting his ass handed to him by a bum in Douglas and two old men in Holyfield and Lewis lol. And everyone knows he also avoided an older and slower George Foreman who did what Tyson couldn't do ie went the 12 rounds with Holyfield whereas Mike got manhandled and battered around the ring by an....
@fktheworld1....Holyfield who lost to Moorer - who Foreman beat - and Bowe lol. Name one decent fighter Tyson beat? And don't mention Spinks or a washed up Berbick and a geriatric Holmes who had not fought in 2 years lol. And don't say but an older Holmes went the distance with Holyfied and beat Mercer because my answer to that would be Holmes was ring rusty and overweight when he fought Tyson. If he fought Tyson when he fought Holyfield for example then he would have took Tyson the distance....
@dave10172 im just gona say one thing tyson is better than ali because ali lost to holmes and berbick who tyson destroyed under 4 rounds hahahhahah thats proff right there now u cant say ali was old if lewis was older than tyson and still beat him then ali wasent old period now u keep writing 10 page essays that no one will read....
until u can find the same boxers that tyson lost to and ALI beat until then just STFU....tyson is better i proved my point u didnt prove anything
Ali proved to the world he is the greatest.
Sirajxxxalixxx 14 hours ago
FOreman was just a strong idiot in the ring. All ALi did was see how george kept his hands down or they were never blocking so he just through straight hands. He did lay on the ropes all the time too which they don't allow really and the reason the people are cheering all the time is because it's in africa. Oh and ALi isn't out of his prime he's not old here He's the only one to blame if you think he lost his step he just didn't train as hard because he believed he was the best.
ACslookin 5 days ago
I would rather jump in front of a bus than fight Foreman.
DickieM92 1 month ago
@DickieM92 hahahahahahahaaaahhahahahahahaha
troublesome40 3 weeks ago
Well, at least you got the grill, george.
roscoegino 1 month ago
Its always amazing to watch someone develop an art form right in front of your eyes
FealSmart 1 month ago
i dont understand, why the referee count to 8 o i see wrong?
levicious 2 months ago
Holy Shit, the crowd just cheers and chants after every punch Ali lands. Ali truly is the greatest boxer there ever was.
THEAuburnFTW 2 months ago
I love george but he had such an ugly style, like a bear, open paw and pushing. No elegance. But great man
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katofromgreenhornet 2 months ago
Ali boombaye!!!!!
geustis 2 months ago
...... A 32yr Old Boxer is in his Prime ... Specially when they a HeavyWeight .. George was a Kid ... and had no Chance against Ali .. check George's Interviews about this Fight .... Ali 32 .... George 24 .... George given a Lesson in Humbleness
Socratease8 3 months ago
@Socratease8 Tell this to Tyson's fanboys who say The Iron, at 30 and 31yo, against a 34 and 35yo Holyfield, was past his prime.
yowyOw69 2 months ago
What can I say Ali is the greatest. But give George Foreman his due,
sr633 3 months ago
What a definitve knockout, seems like Ali choose the moment. Greatness!
ArsallanTJ 3 months ago 4
I love when he smells bloods and just springs to life like a shark and three punches him.
BJ1008 3 months ago
le plus grand boxer de tous les temps,il n'y aura pas son pareil,l'unique.
terguesh 3 months ago
GEORGE IS BETTER !!!
DAVIDBOXINGTV 3 months ago
Foreman has horrible conditioning
IMxYOURxDADDY 3 months ago
In my opinion, this is one of the greatest fights of all time. When else has an old, fading ex- HW champ come back and out-ring generaled a truly great younger champion to reclaim his title? Foreman was in the top ten HW of all time in many experts opinions, and here is old Ali, now lacking his former footwork and reflexes, able to prevail in this brutal fight with a peak Foreman who had slaughtered the great Frazier and seemed invincible. Ali is so cagey here, and displays great heart.
dukstuf 3 months ago
the referee should've given Foreman a slower count, so he could've gotten up in time. That way Ali would've finished him even more powerfully and completely knocked out Foreman.
karlito5757 4 months ago
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MIKESOWELL 3 months ago
uh yeah, not a whole lot of future of leaning into ali the whole fight with your hands down. i remember this fight, the whole time they kept saying wait for foreman's "right", he's stetting up the "right", ali just covered up and let him go at it, once you saw foreman wear himself out and the "right" wasn't there...
ali had an amazing ability to adapt his style to the opponent. there were times when dundee had no idea what he was doing, but ali was always thinking on his feet.
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george foremans power VS ali's intelligence and speed = ALI WINS!! THE GREATEST FOF ALL TIME!!!!
ThePeRuAno18 4 months ago
@ThePeRuAno18 haha, rocky marciano would still win.
MeTaLdUdE02 4 months ago
@MeTaLdUdE02 rocky marciano you mean the guy that fought an old as fuck lewis and fought those useless boxers??? boxing was not as strong as ali's era and if you belive that video where marciano "beats" ali then you are just a golf fan nothing else i can say, yes he retired undefeated so wat?? did he fight any fighters that were actually worth it?? did ali fight the best boxers and still managed to beat them??? YES. please stfu stick to golf t.hanks
ThePeRuAno18 4 months ago
@ThePeRuAno18 gee i'm sorry, maybe you don't keep up with standards back then. let me explain to you: back then, heavyweight boxing was not all george forman/cassius clay stuff. back then, rocky marciano was young, and he also retired in his 30's. he came back in his 40's (yes, an old guy) and still won. it doesnt matter if ali or anyone else was bigger than him, marciano would never stay down. whereas most boxers today will stay down and accept defeat, rocky never did.
MeTaLdUdE02 4 months ago
While this is one of the greatest fights in boxing history, keep in mind that Ali is old here, and extremely slow by the standards of what he was in his prime. Check him out in '66, fighting Williams or London, to judge his at the top of his game.
Fastest feet and reflexes of any heavyweight ever. People tend to rate him low in defense, because he fought with his hands down, when in fact, his defense was better than any boxer who held his arms up. He was simply unique.
dukstuf 5 months ago
The more you watch this fight the more you realize how Ali sized up Foreman early on, realized he couldn't rely on his footwork at 32+years and decided to use his crafty experiance and wait like a possum until Foreman wore himself down.
People forget that Ali was very far from his prime here, and relying on his big heart and brains instead of his once amazing footspeed. It's stunning just how far Ali got this late in his career. There was no luck here at all. Guts, experiance and strategy.
dukstuf 5 months ago 23
@dukstuf well said man!
soulofone 3 months ago
@dukstuf well said!
qveterangamerp 3 months ago
I'll give Mr. Foreman one thing: the man is a hardworker! He deserves respect just for keeping up with Ali that long. Impressive....
123Alhamdulillah321 5 months ago
holy crap ali light foreman up those last few seconds. lol thumps up for the ultimate fictional fight, rocky balboa and muhammad ali
warfighter268 5 months ago
why are you guys even arguing about this? there's a video in the suggestions of the both of them on a talk show going back and forth about how the other one is better: tyson said repeatedly ali is the greatest of all time and how he was his biggest inspiration and ali says how he's a dancer, but if he got hit by tyson it'd be ugly and tyson says how ali's fought much stonger guys... it's actually really funny so i think the arguments pretty pointless
SmackyduhFrog 5 months ago
8:30, Ali looks dead and gone
9:00, Ali has won. Amazing.
olasonn 6 months ago
Why is this even a conversation, Tyson did have great technique and was fast, but he never beat anyone worth mentioning, he couldn't even handle Holyfield. What do you think Foreman would have done to him??? Come on man think, Ali destroyed Foreman at a older age. Holyfield Barely beat Foreman when he came out of retirement. Put it together, tyson wouldn't last in the ring with Ali. What is your logic????
SCOTTIERAP 6 months ago
@SCOTTIERAP foreman would of destroyed tyson
thewelshviper 6 months ago
@SCOTTIERAP So Larry Holmes, Frank Bruno, Nrian Nielsen just to name a few aren't worth mentioning? And have you even seen the Tyson Holyfield fights? I'd like to see how good you do after getting headbutt so many times and so hard that you get cut, Holyfield is a fucking punk. He headbutted, gone for more low blows than any other fighter I can think of, and ontop of that there is the steroid and hgh usage. A prime Tyson vs Foreman or Ali would be a great fight. But a prime Tyson is unbeatable.
Thagame07 6 months ago
@Thagame07 TROLL. tyson almost lost to fucking Bruno in his prime. Ali went up against top class boxers and tyson only had holyfield to deal with and he lost twice to him. Lennox Lewis was alright has well, oh yeah tyson lost to him aswell. who can you say tyson beat who is a top WORLD champion? Ali beat Frazier, Foreman, Sonny Liston. ALI GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!! and just to and its not all about boxing, Ali was and the best entertainer in boxing, he make the best rymes while tyson boring....
BoAMightyreds 6 months ago
@BoAMightyreds Haha, I love how I can't even have a fucking opinion without being called a "Troll". Everything I said was true, and when did I ever say "MIKE TYSONZ DA GREATEST EVA! LAWL!" Thats a fucking troll, I made valid points and said it would be a great fight. And Ali is not the greatest of all time, you probably say that because you follow what everyone else says. Joe Louis is the greatest HEAVYWEIGHT boxer of all time. Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest boxer overall.
Thagame07 6 months ago
@BoAMightyreds And the fight with Sonny Liston was fucking fixed you idiot.Ali "KO'd" Liston with a phantom punch,look up Sonny Liston and the mafia and you will know what I'm talking about.And so what if Tyson was "Boring" outside the ring, maybe he didn't want to look like a fucking clown.And how is Ali the greatest he got beat by Frazier and lost The Fight Of The Century? Like I said, Tyson vs Ali would be amazing. I never said Tyson would fucking destroy Ali, it would be impossible 2 predict
Thagame07 6 months ago
@Thagame07 Tyson had talent but was a bum. He didn't beat anybody worth talking about and lost all the big fights. As exciting as he may have been, he wouldn't even be in the top 10 greatest heavyweights of all time.
upthecelts2 5 months ago
@upthecelts2 He beat up Larry Holmes and Holmes was very highly regarded heavy weight, plus all those other heavy weights he smashed don't seem worth talking about because he made them look so bad. In his prime there was no one who could even challenge the man. All the other guys, Like Lewis and Holyfield fought Tyson way past his prime, a 20 year old Tyson would have murdered them as he did all other guys who were put in front of him.
LastPosterStanding 5 months ago
@Thagame07 Before you start running your mouth you might want to read up on stuff bud. He got beat by Frazier and lost The Fight of the Century???? The Fight of the Century was against Frazier you idiot...and he beat him twice after that fight. He also beat Liston twice...and once he was half blind (because Liston was cheating)...so even if Liston did throw the second fight, he had already beat him up before that. So get it right or shut up!
Mick1416 5 months ago
@Mick1416 You sound like a fucking retard, you pretty much didn't make any kind of sense when trying to talk about The Fight of the Century. You pretty much repeated what I said dumb fuck, and why do people dick ride Ali so much? You probably haven't seen more than 2 or 3 Ali fights. And you probably skip to the end because you don't find them intresting. And Ali isn't the greatest of all time. That title can be used for Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, and Rocky Marciano only IMO.
Thagame07 5 months ago
@Thagame07 everybody have there own opinion though.
cell196 3 months ago
@BoAMightyreds one person off the top of my head who was well known and heavy weight champ was tony tucker who was beaten by mike tyson though mike tyson could have done better, so i disagreethat he fought no one worth mentioning while i do agree that ali was an overall better fighter but you have to admit tyson was pretty good
SmackyduhFrog 5 months ago
Foreman himself said that Tyson was a phenomenon hitting atleast as hard as him and Frazier, but with the speed of Ali. If that is correct, it would make him better than them all.
Norwegian733 6 months ago
8:30 Listen, that's Ali's strategy.
carmodifire 6 months ago
YO Muhammad Ali talk the most shit but backs it up everytime ! lmao
SteadyDreamz 6 months ago
Muhammad Ali was and will probably be Greatest Boxer that ever lived.
Mike Tyson was great also, he had flexibility, speed, power, technique but he was really inferior to Ali mentality wise.
Also Ali had incredible jaw, he withstood punches from guys like Earnie Shavers, George Foreman, Joe Frazier (got up on count of 3 from most vicious left hook ever). And as fast Tyson was Muhammad had faster hands and was more elusive. Who knows who would win as they are both favorites, but i go for Ali.
TheMissNatalija 6 months ago
Greatest ever. Even in todays era. He would have floored Klitscho in five rounds.
jonnynuclear 6 months ago
fastest 10 count I ever saw
june1683 6 months ago
@june1683 The ref was saving Foreman from anymore embarrassment.. I agree it was the quickest 10 count I ever seen in any sport. Ali could have easily hit him one more time when he was going down but he didn't. It was a classy move. I think other boxers like Mike Tyson would have given him so extra hits on the way down to make sure he didn't get up. Mike Tyson was a beast in his early days. I really wonder who would have won when both were in their primes.
Cme80 6 months ago
@Cme80 Foreman most likely. Tyson's style was made for Foreman. Tyson would be running into a train head on. The only way Tyson could fight Foreman would be on the inside, thats pretty much a bad idea against someone like Foreman. I can see Foreman knocking out Tyson in 3 rounds.
vladiator100 6 months ago
@vladiator100 Right.... Foreman had hardly any combinations and he was not nearly as fast as Tyson at his best. Tyson had the ability to deliver multiple and fast combinations and I dont think Ali would have lasted very long if standing against the ropes against Tyson. He was much better to set himself up against that kind of tactics. Foreman was more of a puncher and less a boxer.
See how Tyson finished Bruno: /watch?v=PTK_4zl96mk
Norwegian733 6 months ago
@Norwegian733 Ali was to fast on his feet for Tyson to catch up. Ali could dance for 15 rounds while Tyson had trouble running for 6. Ali would jab his way to a late KO on Tyson. But that wasn't even my point. I mentioned Foreman not Ali, I don't see Tyson lasting more than 3 rounds against Foreman, Foreman was never a boxer and that didn't stop him from being eating inside boxers like Tyson for lunch.
vladiator100 6 months ago
@vladiator100 Well, I guess we dont agree...
Norwegian733 6 months ago
Ali's combination on Foreman at the end was so fast the announcer was late on calling it. Foreman was inches from the canvas when the announcer realized Ali had landed a combination....
vladiator100 7 months ago
Foreman almost made the count, you could even argue he did, but he would not have lasted another 7 rounds...he was spent.
exposingbuffoons 7 months ago
ali's the best who's ever seen it done it and lived it lived it seen it and done it from whoopen foreman to whoopen frazier u cant stop the mans shine even when he loses he wins that man is the greatest
supertk4life 7 months ago
why do people say who woud win Ali or Tyson? Who was the hardest opponent Tyson faced? maybe Holyfield. Ali would've destroyed Holyfield. Ali and tyson are in a completely different league. Tyson fought easy fights, Ali fought true challenging opponents, Frazier, Foreman ,Norton etc.Maybe if you compared Ali to joe louis then there would be a good arguement
origamu 7 months ago
@origamu purely opinion . nobody had the same inside power as tyson, not even butterbean. if ali were the same height and reach as tyson he would be a stepping stool for tyson. the "ultimate greats" happen to have size on their side.
mirrorseye 7 months ago
I would predict unanimous decision to Ali against Tyson just for out boxing him
Mcfailerson 7 months ago
what a boring boxer ali was on the ropes for the hole fight such a boring fight
westderbylpool 7 months ago
haha i hate how people talk about
ali vs tyson
its wouldnt happen, never has, never will
so shut the fuck up about it
daytongulayets1993 7 months ago
@daytongulayets1993 u speak like black...
tioteresoproductions 7 months ago
vaya mierda de combate,
foreman esta que parece paralitico..
Abarth131sf 7 months ago
Ali cat, Foreman mouse.
aoknponte 7 months ago
mike tyson has a lung problem thats why he was so gung ho on the knock-out he was also really short with a small reach ali could out jab him for five rounds then take the fight to him when he was tired and ko-him
rubberegg 8 months ago
@rubberegg like he did in all of his fights basically :/ its strange that all the "best fighters" happen to be over 6 ft tall.. Whoda guessed that height and reach would effect the outcome.
Its like a person with a machete vs a person with a sword. make sense? put ali on the ropes with tysons inside power and its game over
mirrorseye 7 months ago
@mirrorseye Tyson is classed as one of the best fighters and he's 5ft10
familyguyman2008 7 months ago
@familyguyman2008 Yeah i know hes also my favorite boxer,. but ya gotta check out his opponents,. sure hes fought a couple journymen tall dudes,. but when he got to Lewis (6 ft 5) he lost,. just saying the taller you are the easyr it is for you in boxing,. like a sniper game and one person gets a handgun while the other gets a rifle,.Given both shooters had the same skill ,the rifle will always be more accurate.
mirrorseye 7 months ago
@mirrorseye Tyson lost to Lewis and douglas not because of height, but becuase he tried to mail it in against each.
The Tyson from 1985-1988 was more devastating than any boxer who ever lived.
raygordon 7 months ago
@raygordon but if he stuck to the point game he would lose because they were out of his range. he would have to work twice as hard to get the same amount from strikes from his lengthier oponents. so tysons realistic choice was to knock his opponent out.
mirrorseye 7 months ago
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mirrorseye 7 months ago
Ali would have knocked George out anyway, but why did they count George out at 8 1/2 seconds and not the full 10. It's cleary not at 10 seconds when they stopped it..
mreman2 8 months ago
It was like fighting Sponge Bob. Ali just absorbed everything George had. I bet that fight was just mentally exhausting for George Foreman.
oneworldkingdom 8 months ago
nothing against foreman, but i can't watch this enough.
fantastopotomus 8 months ago
does anyone think mike tyson could win if they was both in there prime ?
ashcroftovgy 8 months ago
@ashcroftovgy
foreman's punches are stronger than tyson and still got his ass whooped... muhammad ali can take punches and wouldn't have let tyson get close enough.
ruckaisawesome 8 months ago
@ashcroftovgy
Hard as hell to know what would happen
If Ali Trashed talked 21yr old mike tyson and really pissed him off . Even with the best chin, hard as hell to really hit (unless he wants you to ...lol then call you names" A young pissed Tyson would stalk him ...stalk him. take a few shots..only.Ali could take maybe 3 of Tysons brutal upperbombs. Mike Tyson had the most brutal uppercut in boxing history. Ali /greatest. But waiting for Tyson to knock someones head off watch anyday over
stezothewhitenegro4y 8 months ago
@ashcroftovgy ali would win cause hes too tough and has max stamina....
MICKEYISLOWD 8 months ago
Did you ever see those videos of the "pepsis wasp" and the tarantula? The wasp lets the tarantula think it's going to kill it so the tarantula will be vulnerable. Then, at the last second the wasp sneaks in a few stings and it's all over.
Ali fought just like that. He played on his oponent's over confidence and exhausted them. Ali knew what he was doing the whole time. Watching these old fights is like watching an old movie where you know the ending, but it's cool to see how it went down.
InsertName125 8 months ago
george can take a punch to the face better than anybody, but ali is taking georges hardest hits the whole time? lol doesnt make much sense to me.
mrfunkeymunkey1 8 months ago
I didnt think George was on the ground for a 10 cound. George got ripped off, it doesnt matter if all the punches were doing damage as long as you hit the guy more times and dont get knocked out. He was tired but got up quickly. George can take a punch to the face better than anybody.
racebends 8 months ago
@racebends no george was down for 3 second, the ref began the count from 4 and took over the count from ring side ref, so george was indeed knockout.
ednan9 8 months ago
wtf is going on are they training or fighting i see this fight first time??
Arman5628 8 months ago
@Arman5628 You're witnessing the rope-a-dope.
InsertName125 8 months ago
Meh. It seems to me Ali was getting some great hits in- when he wasn't on the ropes or grabbing Foreman's head. I mean, ya, as a fighter he's a winner, but he isn't a very fun boxer to look at in this one. Ali is great, but I think the fight should have gone to George.
RaybornButtercups 8 months ago
Im'a show you how great I am!
Mike21Hawk 9 months ago
Perfect one-two combination @8:45
Foreman was out before the second punch. Classic fight!
fantastopotomus 9 months ago
This is Ali? I'm not impressed. 2 punches to the back of the head and a following of nostalgic braindead commentating faggots. Wasn't the era of boxing great..
Bloodsaberxy 9 months ago
@Bloodsaberxy dude watch the whole fight. he is a great boxer, though his jabs arn't hugely powerful like foremans hes blood fast.
Tomstaman 9 months ago
I love how the people of Zaire go crazy when Ali knocks down Foreman. Fucking epic.
TheRatedRThuglife77 9 months ago
Best fight in history. Combination boxing is better than relying on strength.
Forman looked tired in the end.
SaeedBaba 10 months ago
@SaeedBaba Totally punched himself out. Different when Ali tries the rope-a-dope on Frazier. Frazier is much shorter with a lower center of gravity. His body punch have a greater effect because they have the full impact of Joe's weight behind the punch. George is tall with looping punches. All the impact comes from the arms. That's why he got tired and his punches lost effect. That's how he got knocked out. Not because of loose ropes or someone tampering with his water. He was the "DOPE'
bangitslo 10 months ago 5
@bangitslo Also the fast and effective punches by Ali. Most people don't know how effective they are. The number of direct punches from Ali on the head of Forman is many times more than Formans.
SaeedBaba 9 months ago
@SaeedBaba Not just the end, but even the rounds 6 and 7.
kamatayan19191945 9 months ago
@kamatayan19191945 Right. When I was a child I watch this game and belived Ali won by luck but today
I realize Ali was well prepared and had studied Forman perfectly before the fight. Forman is just after a final
strong punch on Ali's head but he never manage to do it.
SaeedBaba 9 months ago
4all u ali - lovers
he won because of a illegal punch @8:43 on foreman's backhead...
fu7zh9 10 months ago
@fu7zh9 you are boxer ? that is not backhead punch....
numerocro 10 months ago
@fu7zh9 look closely after this so called backheadpunch, he was struggeling after he was hit hard on his chin before he falls down!!!! K.O.
kurdengeier 10 months ago
@fu7zh9 Not sure if those were legal or not back in the 70's.
BlooDragon009 9 months ago
chuck norris #2
foustass 10 months ago
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME
uae665 10 months ago
one word "Awesome"
shnthomson 10 months ago
I dont get it.. foreman stood up in time right? why did ali win?
Madhofd 11 months ago
@Madhofd He didn't really, the referee actually picked up the count at 3, from the ringside official. The commentator incorrectly began counting aloud at 3, when the referee was actually at 4. Start the count yourself, as soon as Foreman hits the canvas and you'll see that he didn't quite make it to his feet by the 10 count.
strictlycomments 11 months ago
@Madhofd Zack Clayton picked up the TIMEKEEPER'S count. You're listening to the Commentor Bob Sheridan.
bangitslo 10 months ago
@arniemazmaz because it was obvious to the ref he was still out of it and not recovering even though he was up. they go by whether you are coherent or not to continue the fight.
chrispuncher1 11 months ago
Para mi criterio Foreman gano esta pelea,....
EFAnthony 11 months ago
He was up at 8 why did referee go 9-10....not that it would make much difference.
arniemazmax 11 months ago
@arniemazmax I think Foreman asked for the match to stop.
imbakk4good 10 months ago
it doesnt really download... the signal is shitty...whatever it is, it just doesnt download...one of the most legendar box match by the shittiest signal quality...that must be fate...
paganviodio 11 months ago
the commentator found out ali was going to let foreman punch himself out pretty late huh? lol
check my videos out
DariusDenzelWesley 11 months ago
@DariusDenzelWesley
haha yeah that was extactly what i thought too 30 seconds left on the 8 round still the same tactic and now he recognizes it
termana1 11 months ago
Ali seemed to grow physically while Foreman appeared to shrink as the fight wore on. What a battle.
stonesmad 11 months ago
Creo que fue el combate del siglo gracias Ali por todo tu arte de boxeador
aiturriagacl 11 months ago
Oh notre grand Congo.....
BigMac067 1 year ago
great mohammed ali
DOLA2OO8 1 year ago
buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa que combate para mi el mejor de la historria buenisimo
miguel123886 1 year ago
The greatest of all time, the peoples champion
Fastblack71 1 year ago
continued
2 secondly Ali was never knocked out tyson relied alot on the knockout. Once hed reach round 6 or 7 his effectivess would greatly decrease and Ali would win every round.
3. Tyrell biggs fought a PRIME tyson and won the first round using an ali style with about one tenth of ali's effectiveness. However he didnt keep it up. Ali would have kept it up for fifteen.
0507590 1 year ago
ok (sigh) I hate to put ali-tyson comments on a great fight like this but if it shuts the tyson fanatics up here goes.
1. First of all prime ali would be constantly throwing punches. Prime tyson would throw one combination at a time and often went for spells of 10-15 seconds without punching. During this time ali would land crisp punches on tyson, head movement or no, which would rack up points.
0507590 1 year ago
Ali is fat, is not the Ali of the 60s.
octopusmagnificens 1 year ago
@octopusmagnificens You ignorant chappie, you forget that Ali had a four year suspencion due to the Vietnam war in wich he refused to take part of. If that suspencion wasn't given by the supreme court of the U.S.A. during Ali's prime years, Ali would be even greater than the greatest of all time!!! Know your facts before you write something
on the world wide web my friend!!!!!!!!!!
Fastblack71 1 year ago
@Fastblack71 I have not forgotten anything. Ali is fat.
octopusmagnificens 1 year ago
@octopusmagnificens no respect.
gyped 1 year ago
@octopusmagnificens What do you mean he's fat? He was incredibly lean and fast. No one could keep up with him in the 60's and everyone knew who the greatest was. So get with the program asshole.
truthfulmind 1 year ago
@Fastblack71 Ali was never suspended by the Supreme Court. The Court actually overturned his conviction for draft evasion by a vote of 9-0.
BryantFinlay 10 months ago
all the tyson hater cant accepts that tyson 100% beat ali then they talk shit about tyson
sharkxxxs 1 year ago
@sharkxxxs i love both tyson and ali as great fighters but, ali could only win on a split decision, tyson could match alis speed and endurance. mike could most probly win by ko if he did win, but i agree with what your saying.
JynxBoxing 1 year ago
@JynxBoxing Ali in his prime would wear Tyson down until he Ko'd him with the jab and super human speed combination. You probably don't know hat since you're too young, but I thought I would just tell you.
truthfulmind 1 year ago
@JynxBoxing lol, tyson would end like foreman. he cant match his stamina
jasontester3 11 months ago
@jasontester3 You are absolutely right. And guess what? Tyson NEVER scored a knockout after the 7th round in his entire career. What comes after 7? "Nuff said!
bangitslo 10 months ago
@jasontester3
tyson would end like Sonny Liston. 1st round KO.
Civsuccess2 8 months ago
@Civsuccess2
Ali was genius . But 8 out 10 people would turn the channel If a Young Mike Tyson fight was coming on. Ali could do things other never will. unreal stuff.
But a robeless,21 year old champ ..who looked like a killer, 80million in his wallet, and you knew he was going to Brutally KO ANYONE quickly. Big mothers out cold standing. Right hand and your 7ft away. The most brutal,KO uppercuts ever .knowing people were about to be ko'd silly or ali's ffancyfeet,new poem.lol yawnzzz
stezothewhitenegro4y 8 months ago
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
bomayeah 1 year ago
Tyson...heck...Id love to have seen Holy field or maybe Archie Moore fight Ali...to bad that wasnt possible.
deadendkid1968 1 year ago
Why is here a discussion about Tyson vs Ali! Damn, Foreman nevar had a chance to win Ali & this ain`t a prime Ali. Foreman is the slowest boxer ever to achieve so much in this sport.
makethefake 1 year ago
It is amazing to watch two great warriors of this caliber and to STILL hear people extolling Tyson's virtues. He was fast and he was powerful, yes, but he was also very, very limited on his feet and his chin was suspect; Mike Tyson lost when it mattered most. Douglas, Holyfield both destroyed him and thereafter he was nothing more than a sausage eater. He NEVER defined himself against greatness in the way that Ali did in the 70's. Bottom line: Mike just appealed to the thug lovers.
Yubarco 1 year ago
In my opinion, the two greatest heavyweights of all time, Tyson wouldn't stand a chance in Ali's era.
EnjoiSkateboarding66 1 year ago
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@fktheworld1 I already explained about Tyson being in prison. You definitely have a short memory lol. It is all there in black and white go back and read my posts. You were proved wrong in everything you said. I can't be bothered talking about the same crap so don't reply to any more of my posts as I will not be reading them.
dave10172 1 year ago
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@fktheworld1 But Tyson never beat anyone even at his best whereas Ali beat an undefeated prime Foreman. There is a difference lol. Did you even read what I wrote in my posts? And in addition to that Tyson got his ass handed to him by an old man in Holyfield whereas a younger Holyfiled got took the distance with a geriatric Foreman lol. Although the older Foreman would have probably beat a peak Tyson lol.
dave10172 1 year ago
I broke down what I had already wrote weeks ago so you can understand it better and all that lol. But I have to confess you still won't agree as you are obviously infatuated by Tyson and Tyson's career. I don't normally discuss the same topic as much as this but you are amusing me with your ridiculous comments about Tyson lol.
dave10172 1 year ago
30 year ol Tyson lost to 34 year old Holyfield lol
28 year old holyfield went the distance with 42 year old Foreman lol
Tyson beat Smith, Bruno, Tillis, an ageing Holmes, terrified pumped up light heavy weight in Spinks lol
Peak Foreman or even an older Foreman would have destroyed Smith and Tillis in 2 or 3 rounds lol
Tyson never beat the best fighters in his era ie Holyfield and Lewis lol
Ali beat a 25 year old, undefeated prime Foreman when Ali was 32 lol....
dave10172 1 year ago
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If Foreman had beaten Ali then he would never have lost to Jimmy Young. And he would have demolished Lyle easier as well as he would not have been ring rusty if he had beat Ali as he would not have been inactive as long. Plus George was not mentally right after the humiliation in Zaire when he fought Lyle but still won after being decked twice by Lyle in the 4th round.
dave10172 1 year ago
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dave10172 1 year ago
Oh yeah Tyson took 7 rounds to beat a bum Tyrell Biggs whereas Lewis destroyed Biggs in 3 brutal rounds lol.
dave10172 1 year ago
Stop acting like an idiot as you know I meant Tyson never beat anyone that beat him as he lost a rematch to Holyfield albeit by disqualification and never fought any of the other people in rematches that beat him ie Lewis and Douglas. And you said Tyson was mentally weak. Well if that is the case then he would not stand a chance against Ali as Muhammad Ali was the master of psychological warfare. One taunt to Tyson from Ali and Mike would be mentally crushed lol.
dave10172 1 year ago
@dave10172 omg wat a dum fool.... tyson only rematched once against holyfield and he got DQed so whats ur point ur gona judge a fighter by only 1 fight?.... douglas didnt want a rematch so he retiried....and if u think tyson wasent past his prime against the lewis fight than ali lost fair and square to holmes and berbick whom tyson destroyed...
tyson was weak mentally when cuz died only cus knew how to keep tyson storng mentally thats why ppl like don king took over and runied his carrer
fktheworld1 1 year ago
@dave10172 Ok go and fight vs Mike Tyson is you think he's nothing
leopabon10 1 year ago
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@fktheworld1 I meant someone that beat him lol. You are definitely looking for anything to back up your argument now. Read my posts again, I said Tyson never beat anyone that beat him. You need to conquer your rage and stop being a crusader. And I said Lewis beat Galota quicker than Tyson did ie Lewis annihilated Galota in 94 seconds whereas Mike took three rounds.
dave10172 1 year ago
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@fktheworld1 He was mentally weak therefore he would not stand a chance against Ali as Muhammad Ali was the master of psychological warfare. One taunt from Ali before the fight or during the fight and Tyson would be mentally crushed lol. And even if Ali never got acquitted and did time in prison I would bet my house on him being stronger mentally than Tyson when he was released.
dave10172 1 year ago
The count was not correct!! Foreman was up on the 10th count!! He was ripped off!!!!!!!!!
MrStathis77 1 year ago
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dave10172 1 year ago
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....Who said that and who were they talking about? I bet you don't know lol.
dave10172 1 year ago
I could be the next best thing for all you know. Or my son could be the next best thing for all you know. You can argue with me until you are blue in the face but I will not agree with you as I am only interested in good old dave10172's opinion just like Ali was only interested in good old Ali's or Clay's opinion as Joe Frazier said lol. I must be the greatest, I told the world, I talk to God everyday. If God is on my side then no one can beat me, I shook up the world lol....
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You can argue with me until you are blue in the face but I will never agree with you as I am only interested in good old dave10172's opinion just like Ali was only interested in good old Ali's or Clay's opinion as Joe Frazier said lol. I must be the greatest, I told the world, I talk to God everyday. If God is on my side then no one can beat me, I shook up the world lol. Who said that and who were they talking about? I bet you don't know lol.
dave10172 1 year ago
....starting from the house of Normandy and William I (William The Conqueror). I could be the next big thing in boxing for all you know. Or my son could be the next big thing for all you know lol. And someone will come along at heavyweight who is better than all of the past champions put together and if you are or were still around you would still be saying Tyson was the greatest when he never even beat the best fighters of his era, you fool lol.
dave10172 1 year ago
@dave10172 tyson beat every one in his prime but just fuked him self up....and no the will never be no more heavyweights any more after tyson....boxing died after tyson left....now only mayweather and paquio are left after them its finished ppl r into MMA now....u hate tyson so much if there was no tyson than boxing wud have died in the late 80s...thank tyson give ur brit tomato can boxers like lewis a chance
fktheworld1 1 year ago
@fktheworld1 dude ill bet u a 100 years from now tyson wud still be rembered more than foreman, ali, frazier, holyfield.....i mean no boxing fans right now only know 2 boxers Tyson and ALI thats it....tomato cans like foreman, frazier and espically lewis and are nothing
fktheworld1 1 year ago
@fktheworld1 How can you sit behind your keyboard and call Lennox Lewis a tomato can? Tyson never beat anyone that was any better than what Lewis beat ie Klitschko and Tua would have destroyed Tyson lol. And Lewis drew (but won really) and beat Holyfield a couple of years after Holyfield humiliated Tyson twice lol. Ali fough tomato cans? A prime 25 year old undefeated Foreman who went 40-0-0 before Ali knocked him out in Zaire was a tomato can lol? fktheworld1....shut up lol.
dave10172 1 year ago
@fktheworld1 Tyson will be remembered for conquering bums ie Smith, Berbick, Spinks etc and losing every time he fought someone decent ie Holyfield and Lewis lol. And don't say Tyson was in prison and was old when he fought Lewis as Lennox was older than Tyson and got knocked out by McCall and Rahman when he was younger whereas Mike got his ass handed to him by an older Lewis lol. I would hardly call an undefeated prime Foreman who went 40-0-0 with 37 knockouts including second round wins....
dave10172 1 year ago
@dave10172 hahahahah ali just fought bums his whole carrer like foreman and frazier hahahah what u talking about?
fktheworld1 1 year ago
@fktheworld1 ....over a peak Frazier and a peak Norton - 2 men who beat Ali whereas older Norton gave a peak Holmes hell while losing a split decision lol. Do you know anything about boxing. Tyson will be remembered more than Ali and Foreman in 100 years lol. That is the best joke I have heard in ages. Have you ever considered becoming a comedian? He will be remembered alright - by his deluded fans who have a crusade against any fighter that isn't Tyson. I don't know why I am still replying....
dave10172 1 year ago
@fktheworld1 ....to your post as your comments are just getting more and more ridiculous lol. Although Tyson was a good fighter in his own right the only thing Tyson will be remembered for really is getting his ass handed to him by a bum in Douglas and two old men in Holyfield and Lewis lol. And everyone knows he also avoided an older and slower George Foreman who did what Tyson couldn't do ie went the 12 rounds with Holyfield whereas Mike got manhandled and battered around the ring by an....
dave10172 1 year ago
@dave10172 dude whos gona read ur 10 page essay about ali and lewis beating chumps? hahhaha
fktheworld1 1 year ago
@fktheworld1....Holyfield who lost to Moorer - who Foreman beat - and Bowe lol. Name one decent fighter Tyson beat? And don't mention Spinks or a washed up Berbick and a geriatric Holmes who had not fought in 2 years lol. And don't say but an older Holmes went the distance with Holyfied and beat Mercer because my answer to that would be Holmes was ring rusty and overweight when he fought Tyson. If he fought Tyson when he fought Holyfield for example then he would have took Tyson the distance....
dave10172 1 year ago
@dave10172 im just gona say one thing tyson is better than ali because ali lost to holmes and berbick who tyson destroyed under 4 rounds hahahhahah thats proff right there now u cant say ali was old if lewis was older than tyson and still beat him then ali wasent old period now u keep writing 10 page essays that no one will read....
until u can find the same boxers that tyson lost to and ALI beat until then just STFU....tyson is better i proved my point u didnt prove anything
fktheworld1 1 year ago