Liu He Ba Fa

[beunbad]

Where in Boston does he teach??

[TheCathyfox]

I met Mr. Li in the mid 70s when he taught Hwa Yu on Saturdays at the Canton Academy in Canton, CT. Many Saturday nights he would spend at my home before going to teach at Yale on Sundays.

In summer, he would ask for a dinner of corn-on-the-cob. After, we would push hands.

Thank you, Mr. Li.

[erikabelcat]

the rest of the movie is at vimeodotcom. just do a search for John Chung Li

[longded]

tbh in four mins thats a lot to learn?

well kept film. stay smilie people.

good to see someone taking their time.

[stlrose1]

I totally agree with your last comment - anyway, whatever happened to his book on Hwa Yu for which at least one of his students had compiled still photos of the entire form? Did it ever get published in the US? I'd really love the opportunity to put that one together again!

[stlrose1]

Thanks for writing back - it would be great if this Sifu Chung, or you,as you are onewhoknows, could share the remainder- time passes. Meanwhile, I still practice Tai Chi.

[stlrose1]

I totally agree with your last comment - anyway, whatever happened to his book on Hwa Yu for which at least one of his students had compiled still photos of the entire form? Did it ever get published in the US? I'd really love the opportunity to put that one together again!

[tgibbsma]

I'd love to see those photos of Mr. Li doing the form. I seem to remember that at one point he was offering them for sale to his students, but the price was beyond my means at the time. I now wish that I'd scraped up the money.

[rainbowdiet]

Great clip of John Chung Li. His whole form would take 45 minutes. I studied with Mr. Li from 1971 - 75 and helped teach his students.

I have fine memories of him, his classes, studio, walking 4 flights of stairs to his studio, practicing in the Boston Gardens, performing publicly with him, his Friday night talks, pushing hands, lots of tea, the "5-word song" and eating bone marrow! He did like ladies ;) He was a blessing to all whose lives he touched here in the US.

[stlrose1]

Mr. Li was my first T'ai Chi teacher in Boston for about a year in 1973-74. I was surprised to find his video shown under liu he ba fa as he then referred to his form as Hwa Yu and said it was related to Ba Gua. I don't really care who kicked him out for what half a century or more ago - teachers are always criticizing each other. His class was a great introduction for me, and I was grateful at the time.

[longded]

intresting page this ! I was born in 1974 and was still licky enough to encounter lok hup

(completely by chance of course) so you guys where all practicing durning my journey to the world ? thanks for the energy, oh I'l shut up now!

mrlongded steam!

[tgibbsma]

I trained with Mr. Li in the late '70's. Those who doubt whether this is real internal kung fu never pushed hands with him. He was already getting elderly, and I was a young man with training in judo and karate, and still could not lay hands upon him. Wonderful to see him again. I'd love to have a video of the entire form.

[tgibbsma]

Mr. Li once told me that the Chinese name of the form was Liu He Ba Fa

[narayanr]

The Tao is not limited to a particular culture any longer. In fact, it has always been a Universal Fact.

[tgibbsma]

Knowing the relationship of Tai Chi to Taoism, I expected to learn about it from Mr. Li. But Mr. Li was a Christian, and he illustrated Tai Chi principles with Biblical parables. But his understanding of Christianity was a bit...different. I remember that his explanation of "turn the other cheek," was that it meant to turn before the blow landed, so that the attacker would miss and lose his balance.

[narayanr]

So who do you think I should be paying attention to?

[ChinaMovieMagic]

There's a confusing Cornucopia of Masters/Internal Forms, with a gravitational center being...Pushing Hands. For example, Master Yun and his circle of Elder Internal Cultivators have been doing Pushing Hands for 20 years in Shanghai. Such groups are an valuable part of the Learning Environment in China.

[narayanr]

Um, excuse me, but I am currently involved(for decades now, actually)in a "Rolling-Energy" drill that is seems to be a cross between Tui Shou and Chi Sao but is actually and simply it's own sensitivity and contact-reflex drill.

[opticannon]

what style do you profess?

[KungFuPupil]

Li Chung's LiuHeBaFa is awful, and definitely no transmission from Chan Yik Yan. Just look at his legs, arms and hands, neck and Centre are all fail, of course internal is nothing.

[threesnows]

if you watch this and say it is not internal, you dont know internal. would be willing to bet the guy can fight with it. looks like my taiji teacher who was second generation from Yang Cheng Fu and i KNOW he had the real transmission

[liuhebafahongkong]

He was kicked out! Chan Yik Yan hated him!

[liuhebafahongkong]

Li Chung was the only student kicked out of Chan Yik Yan's class for teaching without permission. He never learned the internal mechanics of the style, only the outer form.

[nebulusfan]

How do you know this?

[ChinaMovieMagic]

I was with Master Li off-and-on from '77 to '82...in Boston, Fla., Chicago and Hong Kong. He taught the Internal, especially the Standing Exercise. One hour a day for 100 days. Kan and Li. Fire under Water. Some did it. Some have it. My Pushing Hands Partners in Shanghai etc. can feel it. Now my teacher is Yun Yin Sen of Shanghai. We're developing a LHBF/English/Mandarin Training Camp, at Red Horse Lake, Hunan.

[narayanr]

I dream of one day going to visit your spiritual school! I am a Wing Chun practitioner who is enthralled with Liu He Ba Fa! Every night I watch three or four video clips of this style!