Michael Moore (9/17/09)

[koszo73]

What is left and right? Liberal loves freedom, conservative preserves traditional values, left defends solidarity. These are all universal human values. We love them all, why do we have to make a choice which is more important than the others?

[isratine]

This guy is too fucking good!!!!

[shadowofears]

I was reading Hid Book Dude where is my Country I recomend everyone to read this book We are living in a Matrix

[g17y5wb]

"MICHAEL MOORE'S DIETARY INDISCRETION"

A Food Love Story

Michael moore ate 5 bowls of All Bran cereal and a full can of peanuts and washed it down with a half gallon of expired milk and 32 oz. of porter style beer. He then ate an entire 16 inch deep dish pizza (solo) and an entire skillet of scrambled eggs covered with bleu cheese. He did this while he listened to The Dixie Chicks on his iPod and as he tried to masturbate to Rosie O'Donnell's image on TV.

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[sm0kebluntzz]

@g17y5wb uMadbro? 

[g17y5wb]

So then that pig, michael moore, began farting with the same force as a gamma ray burst from Eta Carinae, a forewarning of things to come. He squatted on the toilet and began watching The View, streamed live on his laptop. He grunted--"Unnngh, ouch, unngh..." as he fought like a woman in labor to forcefully blow a brick-like plug of mucus / poop out his ass, splashing the urine-filled toilet water up against his ass, and with enough violence to trigger car alarms in his neighborhood.

[g17y5wb]

Hey, DonVoghano, you greasy motherfucker, tell me about those living standards in Europe which surpass those in America? Your jealousy seeths from your pores the way your fucking bad Italian breath does. Ever been to America? Your greasy motherfucker cousins who came to New York in the 1920's are still up there, in New Jersey, stinking up America compared to those from more civilized european venues. You fucking "Jersey Shore" greasy Italian pimp motherfucker. Slick Italian pimp asshole.

[lee0122333]

@g17y5wb ur immature

[yurchevic]

@g17y5wb "tell me about those living standards in europe which surpass those in america.....". culture: europeans are more intelligent than americans. leonardo,raffaello,botticelli,­fermi,volta,galileo,hegel,kant­,voltaire,nietzsche,einstein,n­ewton. american brains? oh....you're right: HOMER SIMPSON is the typical american!

[TheCrappyaccount]

What does he mean "our money"; He's Rich!

[lee0122333]

@TheCrappyaccount why does he support the poor when hes amongst the rich??? MAYBE BECAUSE HE HAS MORALS

[tommyg524]

I believe soft capitalism less the overt greed factor,can coexist with healthcare for all,and that the great chasm or disparity does not have to be so wide as it is. Everyone can be comfortable if everyone....everyone,including the entrepueners of the land cared enough. So suffice it that the care itself is non existant. In other words, elitism doesn't CARE. The only answer is to rid the LEVELS of elitism/Greed/Self interests. Society would also be much less sociopathic too.

[thatkidwhoplaysdrums]

im only here from funny z haha

[vertizontaal]

All these people discussing are like looking down at themselves seeing themselves being on fire and reacting with saying " interesting I'm on fire I have to study and discuss that. " This is not about discussing abstract but on many many people suffering world wide. Isn't there at least a certain urgency I ask you.

[Kpublik1]

its a shame that oscamma is no JFK but an extention of bush maybe worst , iron fist in a velvet glove.......

[GuiFigueiredoA]

Fantastic interview. Michael is definetely a patriot who wants to save his country from its rotten politics. I like the fact that he does not take sides - left or right. He is for democracy and a better life for everyone - whatever it takes for that to happen. Haven't seen the movie yet, though. Looking forward to.

[fireinmycrotch]

@GuiFigueiredoA Democracy is mob rule.america is a democratic republic you fool!

[GuiFigueiredoA]

@fireinmycrotch You know, you make me laugh. When I see people that are part of the 'mass' not insterested in making sure their rights are being respected, I really think this world is completely fucked up. The governments are elected by the people - so they should struggle to make sure the people are having equal opportunities and quality of life. If you disagree, there is no point for you to wake up in the morning and go cast your vote.

[fireinmycrotch]

@GuiFigueiredoA I don't vote.Tell me where in the constitution it says the America is a Democracy.It's not.

[GuiFigueiredoA]

@fireinmycrotch How can you simply admit that the U.S is ruled by the rich? How can people just go for that, stick to it when they are actually working their butt off to make a living? Why would you support a political system that does not value what you do? How can you people believe there is a place up there for every single one? Why wouldn't you fight for a system that will give YOU a better life? This just doesn't make sense, at all.

[1THETRUTH10]

Obama...........faking left and going right...........Hmmmm? In 2011 we can say he wasnt faking it!

[oneslifesadream]

Love Michael Moore and I hope he keeps keeping the bastards honest.

One small observation, really he needs to start looking after himself better. We need him around for years to come to keep making movies about these bastards.

Michael watch your diet and get a bit of excercise.

[thekingofassholes]

@oneslifesadream Good comment.

[1THETRUTH10]

@oneslifesadream Maybe he should give some of his millions to those he highlights! Looking into Moore's life,makes him seem like a hypocrite!

[oneslifesadream]

@1THETRUTH10 Maybe he does. We don't know how much he might give to charity so it's hard to judge him on that basis without any real insight. But even if he doesn't give to charity it doesn't make the importance of his topics any less important

[cupmyplums]

@1THETRUTH10 could you explain why he is a hypocrite? I'd like the juicy details please.

[PusherofPixels]

These people would give up their freedoms in a heartbeat. Capitalism is not the problem. It is a brilliant system, and the problem is when the government gets enormous, like it is today. No one can say how much money is "too much." Europeans dont get it.

[KarlBonner1982]

@PusherofPixels First of all our government is tiny compared to European governments, except when it comes to the military budget. Capitalism is a great system IF its excesses are reined in from time to time and there is some kind of safety net to protect working families and promote equal opportunity for kids from all backgrounds. But when too much wealth gets concentrated in too few hands, it has nasty effects on not only politics but the media, the education system, and culture as a whole.

[julyenmm]

He looks american ..FAT!

[Rabban10]

Michael Moore, the man with the BALLS !! got to love him

[beebobox]

to call his films as documentaries are a stretch, they shed light on something we should pay attention to, it has some misinformation, some exaggerations, and some either intentional or unintentional untruths.

but his films and books are fun to read/watch

[BigNeonGlitterGirl]

@beebobox Tell us those untruths? Inquiring minds want to know?

[Fallout3Follower]

U.S.A.! Would never want to live in a country where my fundamental right to bear arms is infringed. So many European countries take away that right. England has very strict gun control, because the people let it happen.

[IIEnjoi]

@Fallout3Follower You Do Not Need To Own A Gun. its fucking stupid how people have the right to own firearms, GO Europe.

[Fallout3Follower]

@IIEnjoi YOU DO need to own a gun. You mean the right to defend yourself. If everyone has the right to life, they have the right to defend that right from people who wish to end it, so we have the right to the means to defend ourselves, which are guns.

[MF0TY]

@IIEnjoi We have the right to own fire arms so if the government fucks up we have the ability to stop them, but yes that makes perfect sense lets take guns away from people who obey the law, because criminals will never take advantage of law abiding citiszens, I mean just look a chicago! *sarcasam* I'm sure we can trust the government to take perfect care of everyone, because they're infallable, like the Pope! Ha! :P

[BigNeonGlitterGirl]

@IIEnjoi We were given the right to arms because of people like you--Go US constitution!!

[IIEnjoi]

@BigNeonGlitterGirl and you have the given right to arms because of peaceful pacifists like me? makes soo much sense..People like you who hate other people because they are different then you is the scary reason when people have guns. Fuck Racism, Love is the key to a happier future.

[BigNeonGlitterGirl]

@IIEnjoi I never said I hate you or anyone else...so stop with the crap jack! We have the right to defend ourselves against foreign and domistic---do you understand what that means??? If you are not from the USA then you might want to worry about your own country. You won't see me spoutin' off about other countries. Go play your game son.

[BigNeonGlitterGirl]

@IIEnjoi Never mind--don't bother replying now that I know your a 20 year old gamer---I should have known by your uneducated comment.

[IIEnjoi]

@BigNeonGlitterGirl i never saw your update to the comment, and i like video games? okay nothing is wrong with that, that in no way makes me uneducated. and no i fucking hate the government, all im saying is guns should not be allowed in general because when you have the gun you have the power to end someones life way to easy. you should have no reason to own a gun unless your a hunter, which killing for sport is idiotic. Also i bet Europeans gun crime rate is lower then Americas. 

[jacksawild]

@Fallout3Follower It's because we didn't want to see another school shooting. One was enough. How many have you people LET happen?

[Fallout3Follower]

@jacksawild That's because of "Gun free" zones which make schools and many other buildings target rich environments who can not fight back against an armed gunman. Why don't we blame the person and punish them, instead of taking away guns from responsible people who use them to shoot recreational, hunt, and protect their family.

[gooznr1]

difference between europe and the us: In europe you will never see a 70 year old man working for $2

Second thing is that if you are poor in the us big chance your neighbour and schoolmates are poor too. In europe if your poor there as chance your schoolmates are not poor or your neighbours. That kinda poverty hurts the most and make people more mad.

[chindit83]

keep kicking the hornets nest mr moore. bravo

[shafe44]

People who say America is the best country in the world, probably hasnt been outside of N. America. It is BS. We are great, but have many many problems. Not the best.

[fedner31]

Capitalism is NOT bad! Like anything else, it can and has been abused. With the right rules in place, people can achieve some level of wealth.

[KnowThyself7]

@fedner31 I agree. And communism is not bad (Not being sarcastic). However, it can and has been abused too. With the right people in place, we can achieve some level of sanity and peace. But, there will never be a person on earth that can fill that shoe. Not one man. Find him, and I will worship him. Shit, now I sound apocalyptic as if I was expecting the Antichrist like them religious freaks.

[putasensura]

obama the Roosevelt of the 21st century it just made me loled hard, rooselvelt believed in white supremacy .

[drpeppa2357]

I Find so often when i come in contact with a critic of michael moore, they either just shrug off the idea of his films because they're "Just Propaganda" Or "completely untrue". The facts are there people, this man is pulling from history, more and more Americans seem to be developing a defective sense of rationality. Criticizing a government is a sign of a healthy progression.As for those that say "Love it or leave the country" i deeply pity you.

[TheLala0321]

we all have the ability to become a better world if we just take the time out to listen to the trurth an not the media the media only tells us what they want to know which is sitanic come on ppl we are tlkn bout humanity an our future,our children future,an etc. THINK,THINK,THINK!!!!!!

[KnowThyself7]

@TheLala0321 It's hard to THINK when you are occupied with paying your bills, school loans, a mortgage, car note, car maintenance, caring and feeding your family, and working hard on a job that pays shit and might let you go in the future.

[Bjouesbijou]

32:25 Listen up ppl!!!

[1984dub]

the mans our modern genius.

[scoobydoo4526]

Thank God for Michael Moore. He should be required viewing for any political candidate of any persuasion. I listen to Michael and I feel ashamed for the people who have run my country for the past 40 years. Sadly power seem to attract people who are unhindered by conscience and driven by greed. I say we vote for a dictatorship and we make Michael moore the dictator. I think he would disprove the saying that power corrupts.

[51674]

wooot micheal moore, socialism!!!

[chewie0872]

Moore for President. Dont stress.. Im Australian. I cant vote

[plutocracyslayer]

plutocracyslayer(dot)com With out the ()

STOP THE PLUTOCRACY NOW

[Deltaplus]

For whatever reason, Michael Moore does not understand that the reason for the bank crisis lat year, was NOT due to greed among the major banks in the US, BUT the ridiculous fact that people who can not pay back their debt can simply run away from their problems. And who is left with the debt problem then: The banks. That is the main reason why som many banks got into financial problems, simply because they allowed too many people with low income get these high loans. Stupid system!

[g4macdad]

HE understands just fine. YOU don't understand a thing. What are the interest rates on these loans? The same as for the wealthy? NO! They would not be able to afford these interest rates either. We need bank Police. Regulations against Bankers. Do we have police for everything else? WAKE UP!

[Polyphemus08x]

@Deltaplus

The amount of money shoveled into the financial system through TARP and TALF could have payed off every mortgage and every credit card debt in America, with "money" left to spare.

The reason for the bank crisis last year is that the system wants its subjects (us) destitute, because poor hungry people are easier to dominate.

The real amount of money that stands as an open line of credit to central banks globally exceeds $30 Trillion. The collateral is... you.

FALL OF THE REPUBLIC

[proverb311031]

Capitalism does not exists in the U.S., a Capitalist would not mind some competition but here in the U.S. the competition gets bought out, so in the end you end up with Mega Corporations A.K.A. monopolizes! Because the Supreme Court said that a Corporation was similar to a person we are on the brink of losing our country, pretty soon you and i will be serfs, well you will. I planed for the the fall of America and freedom, I bought the things i need to survive without anything from society!

[iyote]

we at least still need regulated capitalism... we are allowing people to destroy our habitat. making the world less habitable for our SPECIES.

[WarVideo]

Capitalism has expanded human life and life expectancy more than any other system, exploiting the earth and all its natural resources is how man survives on this earth.

[shihouka]

If this were true, living standard in the USA wouldn't be below all those socialist countries. Unfortunately, it is.

Socialism, capitalism, communism, its just ideologies. Some work better, some work worse, non work in their pure form. That's why the most successful countries, the ones who are not failing terribly right now, are a mix of all those.

[WarVideo]

They arent socialist countries, they are mixed economies also. The living standard in the US is low to the extent that the governemnt intervenes in the economy. Also an individuals living standard is detrmined by the freedomhe has and the effort he is willing to expecnd to improve his life.Also, the factors those studies use to determine living standsrds for people are debatable.

[shihouka]

Actually, an individuals living standard is primarily affected by how well he or she is protected from exploitation and unfair practices.

Look at USA for example, where 95% of the wealth is now held by the 1% of the population thanks to the latest economic collapse. This shift in wealth is a direct indicator of exploitation. Communism for the rich, and soon to be feudalism all but in name is what USA is becoming.

[WarVideo]

So you are saying that the ESSENTIAL factor that gives a person a high living standard is that an individual is free of "exploitation" and "unfair" practices, whatever those are... and not freedom and thought applied to action. So a mindless brute can have a high living standard? How can he be exploited if he produces nothing to exploit, talk about putting the cart before the donkey .

[shihouka]

No. What i am saying is that living standard is directly linked to the distribution of wealth.

In feudal times for example, the lord owned everything, and peasant owned nothing. 1% of people owned 95% of everything. The shift in wealth distribution we see today in USA is exactly the same, which is why i labeled it as feudalism.

For wealth to be distributed, few people cannot be allowed to hoard 95%. If they do, that means "workers" earn nothing compared to what "owners" earn.

[WarVideo]

So let me get this straight, you are attacking capitalism for "communism for the rich" and redistribution of wealth.... Then you should be attacking socialism and statism not capitalism, that is the exact opposite of capitalism. Capitalism is about respect for rights, including property rights. If somebody is using force to steal wealth then that is as anti capitalist as you can get.

[shihouka]

No. I'm distancing the reality from utopian vision.

Each system has natural tendencies that have to be kept in check. For example, capitalism has tendency to devolve into greed. Communism has tendency to devolve into parasitism.

Even in democracies, you always delegate power to few people. When money equals power, eventually the only people who come to power are those who have the money.

Cumulative effect of lobbying, donations, etc... over the decades amounts to what you have today.

[brentisone]

@shihouka Communism does not turn into parasitism at all, fake socialist gouvernments were also driven by capitaöistic structures they exploited their people as captalistic governments did at the same time and continue still today by doing that. No one is parasite however perhaps just those who make profits over the work of all people been legally employed in a destructive planetary process of consumption by participating to it by force in an exploited cattle like, worker position.

[KarlBonner1982]

@brentisone The reason those fake socialist governments turned ugly is that any economy that involves that degree of centralized planning will inevitably have to get its hands dirty in order for the system to work. The only predominantly socialist economic system that has any hope of working cleanly would be one where worker-owned cooperatives operate free of any centralized bureaucracy, and where the goods produced are sold on the market just as private noncooperative companies do today.

[brentisone]

@KarlBonner1982 absolutely right, what you said, hence we have to define properly the market structures and it's contributors,..

[KarlBonner1982]

@shihouka This doesn't mean change for the better - even radical change for the better - is impossible. The American Revolution itself was a radical break from the past. During the Enlightenment there was a strong break with religious-based politics in the Western world. Society evolves in phases and cycles, and most big changes happen when the existing power structure gets too corrupt and there finally arises a sufficiently forceful movement to wipe the slate clean.

[TheHelo10]

@shihouka that´s why social demoracy shoul be an option in america aswell. i´m from finland, and for example if i chop off my fingers, i don´t have to worry about what it´s going to cost me to get those fingers reattached, i just call 112, and ill get an ambulance to hospital where they reattach the fingers, and if they mess something up, and they dont work anymore because of that, ill be eligible for recompensation. thats social democratic healthcare. notbad huh?

[firestrings272]

@TheHelo10 WTF are you talking about? The USA has social democracy, there is Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment benefits, Federal Staford loans for college, Social Security benefits, Food stamps, Section 8 Public housing. You should research what you criticize before you make such a stupid comment, don't believe everything you hear on TV.

[mojohookbarb]

@firestrings272 all those are gonig to be taken away soon. haven't you raed on what some of the states have already started. a few of them has taken away retirement, pensions and other things cause they are bankrupt. you should also do your research

[heliumgas10]

@firestrings272 all the shit you said is good..but take healthcare for example..how many can afford it??

[firestrings272]

@heliumgas10 And why can't they afford it? Haven't you ever wondered what the cause of high health care costs is?

[DonVoghano]

People in the US have no idea that most of western Europe has better living standards than they do, every day you just get bombarded with "the best country on earth" bullshit 24/7 on every media outlet and every day in school. It's like they think they are living in a 1950s pleasantville world.

[dancthegr]

@DonVoghano just remember USA and Britain have some of the highest social polarisation levels in the world. SO you are right in thinking that America isn't "the best country on earth". If it was, why does the REPUBLICANS and DEMOCRATS get millions in money in rich lobbyists. So much so that only they get into power

[Pentazoid111]

Do you have any evidence to back up yoru claim? On average, houses in the united states are much larger than houses in european nations. Historicallly, the unemployment rate in the united states has always been lower than the unemployment rate in many european countries. In the united states, you are ALLOWED to home school your children which is unlike some european countries like germany and sweden where homeschooling is banned.

[DonVoghano]

@Pentazoid111 Well aside from having lived and experienced both extensively, just look at any number of statistics. Americans work longer hours and enjoy less vacations, pay double for health care (and any number of natural monopolies) and get worse results, brutal gun violence, insane incarceration rates, wealth distributed along 3rd world lines mirrored by hugely wealthy cities with ghettos that look scary by 3rd world standards. If you need more, or want links I'll be happy to provide em...

[Pentazoid111]

As a result of working longer hours , Americans have more CASH in their pockets and we only pay double the healthcare and we have INSANE high incarceration rates because of the Government, NOT the free market. There is MORE wealth redistribution in Europe than their is in the united states . Poverty along third WORLD lines? Dude, poverty in the US and POVERTY in the UNITED STATES is NOT the same poverty. The impoverised in the US have all of their basic necessities for life!

[DonVoghano]

@Pentazoid111 Well if you choose to believe this I can't do much about it. The data is amply available, and life is a good teacher. I hope that you will continue a path of personal research and life experiences with an open mind. I have family in America and I hope that US citizens can start loving their country enough to criticize it.

[panathabro]

@Pentazoid111 your forgetting that even if your unemployed in europe you still have health care and they dont evict you as opposed to here where they shit on you ...furthermore in europe you DONT pay for school or take out LOANS, and who the fuck would want to be homeschooled other than jesus freaks...its like saying i dont wanna learn too much or too "good" lol....fuck science class my mom can teach me science, right? fuk outta here w that bullshit son

[Pentazoid111]

Shit on you? So europe to you is the land of rainbows and raininig marshmallows? Time to join reality. School is paid for through your tax dollars ; You act like schools and healthcare grows on trees .TYPICAL STRAWMAN! Anyone who wants to be homeschooled wants to be religious , BULLSHIT!. I am NOT a religious person and I hated being in school plus I love science. You don't know what the heck you are talking about! I Nobody should be forced to learn from another curriculum if they don't want to

[panathabro]

@Pentazoid111 listen buddy...im greek...i lived there and experienced it first hand..i know exactly what it is...as you have seen on Tv though capitalism, AIG, goldman sachs, derivatives etc have bankrupted greece and as usuall working people retiring "early" is the problem...so yes it is rainbows and all that shit...capitalism and steppin on ppl to make a buck is the problem...and i know first hand....im glad to hear you are a person of science btw..i repsect u that much more

[jaay334]

@DonVoghano You have no clue What it is to grow up and live your whole life in the USA . I have been to Euro and have seen the freedoms euro is missing . If euro is so great why do so many ppl leave there for the US ? 

[DonVoghano]

@jaay334 Dude I lived in the US from 13 to 20, half my family still lives over there, I have a clue. I don't mean to bash the US either, but all this "best country in the world" rhetoric is just meaningless crap. If you really care about your homeland you look at the realities on the ground, you criticize it and try to make it better, as Mike tries to do. Flag-hugging never helped anyone, if anything it blinds people from looking straight into the causes of the decline of a once great nation.

[TheHelo10]

@DonVoghano exactly, and at the same time they keep repeating how the best schools are in the us, yet still majority of average americans don´t really know that europe is not a country, and at the same time us schools use cencorship in "delicate" issues but still they are told how free they are. ironic i´d say. i´m from northern europe btw. :) not the continent, the union. :)

[theemarsterofarses]

Economic growth specifically, is what has alleviated poverty in many developing countries, but can growth continue forever, and at what cost.

[WarVideo]

Capitalism is the greatest thing mankind has ever developed, this fat man could only have earned every ounce of fat he has in a rich capitalist country. The only chance he would ever have of having that much fat anywhere else is if he was dictator or the monarch of some other poor country where all his people are his slaves working to quench his gargantuan hunger. But he isnt just food hungry, hes power hungry.

[shihouka]

He says nothing against earning money. The vision of capitalism you have in your head is nothing like what you actually have in reality.

Same thing happened in Russia, the "communism" they sold to the people was only in name. Its funny how not even 20 years after Russian "communism" collapsed, so is USA "capitalism" collapsing.

[WarVideo]

Yes, you're absolutly right, the vision of capitalism I have is nothing like what we have in reality. i.e. WE DONT HAVE PURE UNREGULATED CAPITALISM. So capitalism hasnt failed, the mixed has failed.

And nobody has sold capitalism to the American people, no politician or intellectual has, even its so called defenders have not "sold capitalism" in the only proper way to sell it, i.e. on moral grounds. Only Ayn Rand has done that.

[shihouka]

USA economy used to be regulated. As soon as regulation was cut back, it collapsed. This is a historical fact.

Anyway, blaming people for being people wont change anything. You cant present idealized version of something and then claim "well it only failed because we are just people!!".