To all those who get worked up about humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza: Israel is giving more aid than are all the other Arabs. By supporting Palestinians in Gaza, Israel is indirectly supporting Palestinians who prefer terrorizing Jews over supporting their own families.
@sapir321321 thats why the numbers are a thousand to 1 . real humantarian those israelis . israelis have more modern warfare then us why they kill way more. i'll tell you why israel uses our death to show others not to attack them
@Hetman1974 Hamas has been sending rockets into Israel for years and years, only now are we, the jews doing something about. Most arabs, not all ofcourse but most are radicals. Like I say, not all arabs are terrorists, but all terrorists are arabs"
I honestly don't give a shit when people compare the death tolls in both Gaza and Israel. You know why? Because there are so many fucking Muslims on this planet that I really don't care if many of them die. It's there own fault Israel took care of them in an act of self-defense. You fucking communists who support Hamas should get decked in the face. You people are disrespectful and a shame to your own countries.
its a tragedy about that. its terror, in the name of religion. hamas should be destroyed for these actions. peaceloving people are threatened for nothing.
some has to be responsible !!!
its a tragedy about that. its terror, in the name of religion. hamas should be destroyed for these actions. peaceloving people are threatened for nothing.
Israel must get out of the west bank and stop oppressing Palestinians.
All this talk of human sheilds is hooey and repeated only so that lazy western brains will accept it. There is more hate for Arabs by Israeli's that could be measured in Germany 60 years ago. Stop the hate. Stop all support of Israel.
"Hamas is trying to defend their families,country and the right to live and not die."
So is Israel when they invaded Gaza. Don't the Israelis also have families and country to defend? But unlike Hamas, Israel does not fire rockets aimed at civilians.
I bet you believe that Israel should be split to 2 countries which will bring peace. I hate to break it to you, the palestinians don't WANT peace and they don't want just a part of Israel- they want ALL OF IT! what it the solution to this? If Israel can't trust Hamas they couldn't live among them. Also, if Israel would be open to EVERYONE it would lose it's point. Jewish people need a country so what happened in WWII won't happen again. Oh and don't compare nazis to Israel, you are retarded.
"I bet you believe that Israel should be split to 2 countries"
No, I don't beleive Israel should be split at all!! Thats not what is on the table here!!!! The West Bank and Gaza and other areas are not Israeli land therefore the fighting is all about Palestinians getting what rightfully belongs to them according to a UN Resolution which also helped to for Israel as a Country. Now Israel wants to ignore that same Resolution which marks out the Borders.
No one is stopping the Palestinians to form a country within the boundries of Gaza. They simply want Jerusalem and pretty much all of Israel too- too much. Also, from recent affairs the UN has shown to be completly biased against Israel due to the majority of Arab nations. I do not respect any of their so called resolutions. How could peace be made with those who don't want it? Trust me if Gaza will stop bombing everything in sight they will get their independence.
"No one is stopping the Palestinians to form a country within the boundries of Gaza."
Your a complete time waster and you really have no idea about the situation!! Go fuck yourself and hope your entire family stop reproducing shit like you!!
I know a lot more about the situation than you do you prick. I bet you are one of those people who stand at the side giving opinions about things they claim to understand yet don't. I grew up in this shit. I grew up with buses exploding and lived through 3 wars.
I think that if people like you, who claim to be objective and understanding yet are retatrds die, the world would be a better place. You little shitface, I hope you die of cancer.
You obviously don't know shit about the situation and thus I really think we should end this discussion. Don't bother straining your one working brain cell.
Nothing you say can change the FACT that Israel should stop preventing the Native People of their land from having a part of their country back.
Israel is a theif for that!! The theif doesn't wan't to let its victim control their own life, nor does the thief want them to intergrate with Israel!!!
The only option for Israel then is Genocide!! They want to live in Peace but they also don't want to be kicked out of their house inside Palestinian land which is the norm today!
what I don't understand is how come when Palestinians blow up buses and break into houses and slaughter children it is accepted but when Israel goes to war to protect its citizens while still attempting to minimize damage to the Gaza population by warning them it's genocide.
Your "theft" was Jewish people who bought swamps leagally from Arabs and turned them into cities. THEN the wanted it back.
Is the US not made of immigrants? Isn't Australia? what about South Africa. You hypocrite.
LOL, your a total fuckwit!!! break into houses??? Where?? How??? Slaughter children??? Don't you mean IDF which has bombed 240 Palestinian schools and UN compounds.
Since you can't get your facts right there isn't any point to answer any more shit you have to write.
All I can do is repeat how much of a slut whore your mother is and how much she lets men cum over her face!!
Palestinians DID break into houses in jewish settlements a few years back. They broke into them and literally slaughtered children in their sleep. This was prior to the evacuation of the settlements. After that they focused on bombs and shootings. How do I know? I READ THE PAPERS! I bet you'll deny the lynch that occured in the year 2000 when 2 soliders entered Gaza by accident and turned for the autorities for help and yet were killed without mercy. you get YOUR facts straight fag.
"Palestinians DID break into houses in jewish settlements"
Thats different, I fully support that since settlements are illegal. But killing children is something Jewish people are much better at and do at great speed!!
You should know that you Nazi.
Why is your mother such a whore slut?? Can you answer that one??
so you are saying you support Palestinians killing children. Good job ass. The settlements were cleared out by Israeli forces a few years back. This didn't stop Palestinians of abducting and bombing other citizens and children for years and years. Is that illegal? Sitting in your house (not in a jewish settlement)? I guess it is because they were bombed.
Dissing my mother won't make you sound smarter or understand more. It'll just make you mroe of a prick than you are. Graz!
As I said before, attempting to insult me won't make you smarter or more understanding of anything. It'll just make you a fuckface. OH WAIT! you already are one. Big shock there.
your mother has a nice round ass which looks nice when giving doggystyle!!
She allways screams so loud that I sometimes think your inbreed father may hear us fucking. Of course, he's allways stuck to the TV and doesn't much care to pleasure your mothers pussy hole!!
My lack of knowledge? wow, ok. You know what? fuck you, keep living in fantasies where you are god and know it all. In reality you are probably some 15 year old retard who thinks he's all that when in essence he will stay in his room forever and jacks off to playboy. Either that or a "off the chart" retard. I have no idea why I keep talking to you. Dickhead. Go burn in hell.
If you wan't evidence I can send you the cum stained underwear which your mother wears!!! Would that be evidence enough for you???
Or would you prefer a video of me fucking your mother doggystyle??? Let me know and I'll see what I can arrange for you!! Of course its up to your mother if she accepts you.
Maybe you could join in a lick your mothers pussy or even get her pregnant so she can have your son and brother!!!
yea, sign the petition to allow israel do WHATEVER to stop the rockets!! bomb all palestine! then bomb all of lebanon! and dont stop there, bomb bomb booombbb!! and then take some more land somewhere, make the people living there live like shit, and bomb them too!
it is like the trailor of a movie jews r acting loool what is the name of that jewish director? i want him to make an action movie it would be so cool
o wow a firework hit israel and they go crazy when their dropping white phosphorus.
these jews grow up in riches while the palestinians grow up in ghettos. hmm i wonder y the palestinians are so used to attacks and israelis piss their pants over a firework hitting their 5 million dollar mansion
do u ever stfu... ur saying its fine to attack UN schools and burn children to death. while israel has the capabilities to block missiles but not firework rockets.. o wow im pretty sure u were the fuck up that got dropped in your head. PS im not going to argue with someone like u that likes talking alot of shit and yes i did talk alot of shit because u did. have a good day
o so thats why UN officals said that there was no one firing rockets from the UN school. and the Un officals weren't muslims or even Palestinians so they can't be lying to make the situation worse.... Israel uses that excuse so they can kill children and there brothers will get pissed off and grow up to join Hamas since they have no other option.. get ur facts strait before u talk
i agree hamas is a bitch but who else is going to the palestinian people going to look for... hamas has weapons and the palestinian people need a "hero" . I really think the best solution is to split the land in half and end hamas.
the palestinians would have the most of the land in that contract, but they covet all of it, and this vision is not about to change. I would agree with you, if i wouldn't hear every day their calls to "free palestine!", "our enemy is Israel, they have no right to exist, must be destroyed".
The massacre in Gaza, planned six months in advance, is not about Hamas or rockets but about Israel's recent elections and denying the right of a Palestinian state. Israel's own human rights organization, B'tselem, describes it as a crime against humanity. Was the result of the Israeli election worth the obscene carnage in Gaza?
Really? Is there a verse in the bible that abrogates all the prevorious ones that contradict the newer ones? I thought you said the Bible was based on dualism? Are you contradicting yourself?
Hah! The bible my enemy... They are no threat to me, so why should I engage them? 95 percent of terrorism is caused by Islam.
I have an open mind, I used to be like you, believing in 9/11 conspiracy theories and such, I even hated Americans because of the general opinion, but hey, I did RESEARCH!
Well thanks for sharing your past hate of Americans for the actions of its Governmnet. That is why a conversation with you is like talking to a dog. Why hate Americans for their Governments actions? Is it because you think that everyone choose their leader? Now on to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Palestine never agreed to have its land split into fragments. You talk about all Arabs being involved. It was only 7 our of 13 Arab nations who attacked Israel. Not all of them.
I do not hate Americans anymore and neither do I hate their government. "why a conversation with you is like talking to a dog" You're a muslim, I knew it. Palestine's other half agreed and the other half did not, Jews were Palestinians at that time. Oh, so now that all Arab Nations didn't engage I have to start listing them seperately? Grow up.
When you make a statement like this it can only mean that at one time in your past you hated all Americans for the actions of a few. Here you demonstrate to me and the world how your mind thinks. Now you don't hate Americans but you see all Palestinians as the "enemy". Now when you keep saying "Arabs" attacked Israel you forget that there are 13 Arab nations. Only 6 of them attacked Israel. Make your point clear then I won't attack your statements.
Demonstrate how my mind thinks? Well it kind of depends on who you live with, for example the global opinion at that time used to be that Americans suck, etc and I never really questioned that. It's like how you think of Israelis atm.
I do not see Palestinians as the enemy, for fuck sake learn to read. I said HAMAS and TERRORISTS do not mean Palestinians in general. You are once again twisting my words to your own liking. I said Arab Nations, do I really need to list them all for you?
It would help if you listed the 6 Arab Nations which attacked Israel since like MarkPevar is pointing out to you and what I have allready pointed out to you is that there are 13. "Arab Nations" means all 13 and at no point in any history has all 13 Arab nations attacked Israel. If that was the case then Israel would not exist today.
Fine, I will start listing all of the countries that participated in the invasion along with those that supported the invasions, making my comments longer. Happy? Or then we can agree by Arab Nations in this context would mean the 6 nations.
Well the others probably would've invaded if they knew they would've lost. Heh.
I did answer your question and I asked you a question that was similiar, are you not going to answer my question?
Where do you get this information from? What is your source so I may see it with my own eyes??
Why was the UN (United Nations) buildings bombed?? Are you suggesting that the UN supported Hammas in allowing them to launch missiles from their buildings?
Surely the United Nations which is made from most of the nations of the world would not be supporting terrorism. For such an accusation there must be clear evidence you can show?
Video of UN ambulances with Hamas "freedomfighters"
I HIGHLY doubt UN is supporting Hamas,but there's a possibility that these vehicles were stolen, OR the UN drivers had the same disgust towards Israle as Hamas does. Hamas were fireing from the UN buildings along with many many other buildings.
I thank you for giving your source. This source shows some militia using a vehicle with UN flag and UN logo's. What the video does not do is show where this occured and when. But you wanted to present this evidence in support of Israel bombing UN buildings which contained Food Supplies and was under international control at the time of the bombing. So my question still remains. Why did Israel bomb UN buildings? Why did they use an illegal weapon (white Phospherus)??
Well it's quite obivious, and I didn't say this was linked to the UN buildings being bombed. I said the reason why the UN buildings were bombed at was because of Hamas fighters fireing at Israeli troops from WITHIN these buildings, it's pretty clear Hamas does not respect the international control of the UN.
The only way for Hamas to carry out a rocket attack from a UN compound is if the UN sits back and allows it. If this were the case then the UN would have pulled out since allowing Hamas to fire such rockets from its compound would create a risk for the international staff working there. Plus, UN staff reported that no Hamas rockets were fired from within its compound. I'm not prepared to beleive that the international community would turn a blind eye to such actions.
Ahh there seems to have been some confusion on this. "The probe, which was conducted by the Paratrooper Brigade whose troops were responsible for the area, found that the army's location system to pinpoint launch sites indicated that militants had launched a Qassam rocket into Israel from within a yard adjacent to the courtyard of the UN building. However, the GPS element has an error margin of 30 meters and one of the three rounds fired slammed into the building owned by the United Nations.
Israel never admited this mistake. Israel has allways stated that their weapons are 100% accurate to its target. Now your telling me there is a 30 meters error margin. Then these weapons should not be used.
Gaza is over populated so where ever you drop Phospherus your going to injure or kill civilians. As Israel knows this fact they also understood that these weapons would hurt or kill civilians. Its use against civilians is illegal and Israel knew civilians would be hurt by its use.
People are wrong too, you know? No, theres no such thing as a perfectly accurate weapon, not even in the US military, especially NOT ALL OF THEM. Besides, the GPS is not a weapon. And Yes, IDF has made a further investigation of this.
It is used as self-defense, I do not really see why they can't shield themselves. Yes it might cause injury, but I have never heard of anything so serious as DEATH from smoke grenades. It is not illegal to use smoke grenades, FACT.
No it's not forbidden by the CWC if it is used within the context of a military application which does not require or does not intend to use the toxic properties of white phosphorus. White phosphorus is normally used to produce smoke, to camouflage movement. If that is the purpose for which the white phosphorus is used, then that is considered under the convention legitimate use"
The White Phospherus being used against the UN building is not only a smoke grenade. This weapon was combined with a bomb so where the bomb hits is where the phospherus is. Simply put, if it were only as a smoke screen then it would only hide dead bodies! FACT.
Israeli bombings targeted on Hamas. Ofcourse now they have realized that the way to fight the airforce is by propaganda and using human shields, it'sa fact that the civilians gather around to the bombing sites and around Hamas. Which ones fault is it really? Why was UN attacked? Hamas were reported fireing at Israeli troops and the natural reaction to that is return fire. How about the UN ambulances transferring Hamas troops? Isn't that a war crime? Why do you concentrate only on Israel?
You still failed to answer my question and demand for my answer without answering mine. Well, verywell. I think war and killing is rarely justified, but this case is not one of them. Even though Israel has all it's right to defend itself from Hamas terrorists, it still doesn't justify the killing of these children. BUT you can't put this all on Israel's shoulders, they gather around purposedly in the name of their religion and because Hamas tells them to.
"I am an atheist and I do not believe in the teachings of any religious books..."
"history is also based on valuable religious scriptures from that time, so if you deny that then you can't really think anything is reliable..."
Exactly, I am not contradicting myself in anyway in these statements. Maybe you should read more carefully? I'll give you a hint, the word starts with a T.
Funny how you two must resort to personal insults, I like the one where you call me a "cock sucker". Homophobia?
The main utility of white phosphorus munitions is to create smokescreens to mask movement from the enemy, or to mask his fire. particularly as smoke grenades for infantry; loaded in defensive grenade dischargers on tanks and other armored vehicles; or as part of the ammunition allotment for artillery or mortars. do believe in the scripture... Gosh, you fail to understand the word "teachings", I do not agree to the moral promptings of the book.
Its illegal to use such weapons against civilians as defined under International Law. (Source = Secretary General of the UN).
Accpeting this weapons use against civilians makes you no better then the Nazi's who used Gas chambers. Thats because they are both illegal. If you want to support this weapon then please tell me that you accept what Hitler did during world war 2, otherwise just accept tha Israel breached the law. Defence or no Defence, laws are there to protect all people.
They weren't used "against" civilians, they were used as to mask the movement of the fireteam. These are used in all militaries in smoke grenades for example.
Nonetheless, in discussing the incident with Haaretz, some IDF officers say the force should have refrained from using mortar rounds and relied instead on more accurate fire. Military sources said the UNRWA building was marked on the maps of forces operating in the area.
Ok, since you are from Finland and they speak Swedish in Finland I must assume that Swedish is your first language. Your mother tounge. So I will ask you the question in a simple way in Swedish!
I have asked you StripesReaper to give me your own opinion about the deaths of 300+ children in Gaza and I have asked you to give me sources ("evidence" in English) which support your claim that the UN are commitng "War Crimes".
Why do you not give a response?? Is it because you do not have any evidence for your claims!?! I have spoken in the past to 20+ Zionists and eventually they all run away when asked to give evidence to support their case. Are you going to run away from this??
Lets clear one more thing up shall we. You admit to being a Zionist and at the same time writing their propaghanda whilst not reasling that Israel's establishment was based on the Hebrew Bible. For the Hebrew Bible is the only source for this 2000 year old exodus. Now how can you claim to be an Athiest when you clearly follow the Hebrew Bible?? You arguement is based on religious text so how can you be an athiest and say what you say at the same time?? Thats why your a fucked up Zionist!
I admit being Zionist, as in supporting the independence of Israel. I do not follow the bible, I believe they have a right to their own country. So, if I try to explain Qur'an is bad by it's text I'm not an atheist? Amazing, never knew that! Thanks! I quess I'm a muzzie then.
No, no, no. Go back and read what I wrote. Let the words sink into that weak mind of yours. Open up your mind.
My questioning your Atheism does not mean I am calling you a Muslim. Think. The reason I doubt your claim is because you base your facts (Exodus) on Hebrew Bible.
Furthermore, what research did you do?? Did that research include listening to other Zionists telling you what happened and did that research include your Hebrew Bible which you both follow and agree with but at the same time do not follow and do not agree with since you are an Athiest (your words not mine). Maybe your research selectively dissregards facts that you seem unable to look at or see. Maybe you are suffering from some mental imbalance!
You seem to have no idea of the meaning of Research. I get my facts from neutral sources and after that studying from BOTH SIDES OF PERSPECTIVE. Unlike you obiviously. Funny how you say I'm selective of the things I read when you seem to think Israel is pure evil and Palestine are just innocent people fighting for their land.
To mark: My views are not based on a bible but that their people has the right for independence! I never said anything about a bible.
Ok, let me teach you. FACT 1 - You stated that the Jews were forced into exile 2000 years ago. FACT 2 - You believe it is the present day Palestinians who have invaded Palestine.
Answers:
FACT 1 = The only source for your Exodus story is from the Hebrew Bible since no one is alive today from 2000 years ago.
FACT 2 = Palestinians never invaded Palestine since they allways lived there (2000 years according to your own statements).
And the Qur'an speaks of their exile. I use historical facts to support my claims, and history is also based on valuable religious scriptures from that time, so if you deny that then you can't really think anything is reliable.
What the hell are you babbling about? I never said Palestinians invaded Palestine.
There were 6 countries and several terrorist "freedom fighters" such as Hamas.
Tzimnewman3 - Thanks for your posts. Your completely right in what you say since StripesReaper does infact contridict his own views. As you showed us here he said he is an Athiest and his views regarding Israel are based on the hebrew bible. Which is is StripesReaper?? Are you an Athiest who beleives in the hebrew bible? Or are you just some sad lonely old man who is begginig to loose your mind? I suspect you are the latter!
Thanks MarkPevar for your comments. I am really glad that there is someone out there who understands my words. I honestly was getting tired with this guy since the more he speaks the more he proves himself wrong.
I've met countless zionists on youtube and they all seem to be so closed minded such as stripesreaper. I liked how he tries to make out that all Arabs are the same. He had nothing to say when you tolled him that 7 out of 13 Arab nations went to war with Israel. What he fails to understand is that if Egypt had continued its push into Israel then Palestine would have been liberated and this conflict would not exist. Like you say zionists are hard to communicate with.
"The Soviet Union and USA recgonized this division, but not Arabs."
You make out that all Arabs are the same because you claim "Arabs" attacked Israel whilst neglecting the fact that there are 13 Arab nations and only 6 of them from 13 attacked Israel. Tzimnewman allready explained this to you but your English is poor so you can not understand.
Oh my fucking god MarkPevar, you sure are a dot fucker aren't you? Arabs were the ones opposing Israel, yes, but that doesn't still mean I think Arabs are all the same.
I understand the 6 Arab Nations invaded Israel, what the hell are you talking about?
xaxaxaxaxa LOL, Yeah you must be right MarkPevar. I've lost count of the times I hear girls speak like this.
I'm glad someone else is finaly understanding how much this "person" contradicts themselve. I've never come across a Zionist of this type before. They normaly do not contradict themselves and can often give some good debate. But they all run away in the end when it comes down to supporting their words with evidence. I think this guy has seen he can not win and as left. I may be wrong.
Sderot is built on the lands of Najd, a Palestinian village ethnically cleansed by Jewish militia in 1948. Its residents probably fled into the Gaza strip. Most of Gazas population is descended from such refugees.
At least 450 children are among the 1,330 Palestinians who have died since Israel began to bomb the Gaza enclave on December 27.
Al Jazeera has obtained the names of 210 of the young victims, 44 of which were under five years old.
get out off palestine and go back to europe. no more israel = peace in the mideast. this is THE ONLY way. next time war breaks ill be on a plane to jordan to volunteer for the army.
They are instructed to not shoot at people who are no threat to them, even when thrown at with rocks they hold their fire unless it becomes serious they will need warning shots. So using children as human shields, hiding in UN facilities, fighting without a uniform in hatred towards Israel which started immediately when the country was established, though the opposition was defeated. Israel is proof that Islam is a fraud, for in the Qur'an, the jews will wander forever without land.
It's Islam that brainwashes these people, it is called racism and Islamophobia to speak out against it, you are labeled an idiot, speaking out of context when the Qur'an is just a mess of commandments, it cannot be read out of context because it doesn't make any sense. You have to dig into the hadiths to see what Muhammad their very prophet did, and his deeds are reflected on the Qur'an. The slavery, hatred towards unbelievers, sovinism, death threats of conversion from Islam are what Islam is.
Now label me an idiot for telling you this what you people told us about the 9/11...
"STOP BELIEVING THE MEDIA! AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!"
I did, now I know. The 9/11 conspiracy was proven wrong and in time we can show the government what they are ignoring, since we "white people" are evil because we are the most developed at the moment, therefore blaming down at muslims is a taboo, it never happened.. The most ignorant people are Muslims blinded by Islam.
i converted and im still alive you fool. israel is a mistake that me and my people will correct! i'd befriend a muslim over a jewish zionist anyday. one day israel will suffer and be crushed, to once again wonder the earth in sorrow for another 2000 years.
StripseReaper - Israel is proof that the Nazi's may be long gone but their Jewish borthers still keep the Nazi spirit alive by acting like Nazi's. Like RobGnorts has said. "Your deeds, good or bad, will repay you in Kind."
The Palestinians are the ones I will always feel sorry for since the Israeli's have everything and the Palestinians have nothing. That is why they fight people. They fight because everything they had was taken away. I would fight too if I were in the same boat!
So...Jewish Defending Israel is being a nazi? I don't understand.
Ofcourse they have nothing since they always fight against Israel. Who invaded Israel the next day of its independence? Arab Nations! Who have been waging war since Israel was established? Arab nations! Who have won all the battles? Well... Israel.
Maybe if they stopped hating Israel and would concentrate on building instead of destroying they would have something. They fight because they are Jews and Islam hates Jews.
Ishaq:240 "The Jews are a nation of liars.... The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people."
Ishaq:253 "Allah cursed them for their unbelief. When a scripture comes to them from Allah confirming what they already have, they deny it. Allah's curse is on them."
Qur'an 5:51 "Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other."
Qur'an:8:7 "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"
You explain for example the two little Israeli girls killed by hamas rockets, and those weren't accidiental, collateral damage like Israeli bombs are. No innocent life is ever justified, but war is war... And we ALL know who started this all.
Well, you explain to me how keeping 1 million and a half people under virtual arrest is not acting like the Nazi's. DId the Nazi's not force Jews in Warsar, Poland to live in a ghetto. They were free but at the same time they were not free to leave the area. Gaza is basicaly in the same situation. So if you continue to think that Israel is right then you also accept that Hitler was right what he did in Warsar, Poland. So far Nazi Israel has killed 300+ children. You explain that away!
Did I ever say I agree with the Israelis? I believe Israelis have the right to defend their country from Hamas and other Arab nations. Israel is being much more rough than the westerns would be, probably having something to do with realizing handleing people like these doesn't work with silk gloves. Muhammad beheaded 900 Jews by his own hands, Jews have been persecuted since Islam and still are treated as 2nd class citizens in Islamic countries.
You didnt need to say how much you agree with with the Nazi's (I mean Israeli's). You allready show how much you support them in your writing. Whats your fascination with the Qur'an. Are you one of those Muslim Extremists or are you the Nazi type?
I'd support Israel over Hamas any day. What's my fascination with the Qur'an? I like to know my enemy first. I'm definately not a muslim extremist, I'm an atheist defending mine and others values.
So i your own words you are defending the values of a country which acts like a Nazi! Thats all I wanted to know really. It pretty much sums you up. You are willing to ignore that Palestine was invaded first! Why can you so easily diss-regard that it was the UK Government which layed down the formation of the state called Isreal? Your claim is no different from me kicking you out of your house and when you try and get me back I call you the terrorist. That is your view! Its wrong!
Furthermore, if you relly intended to "learn the enemy" then you wouldn't be learning it from a worthless book you retard. If you really want to know your enemy like you keep claiming then its simple. Go and see the conditions in Gaza with your own eyes! Meet the men, woman and children. You don't need to believe in religion to be a Zionist and I'm afraid that is exactly what you are. Why did you avoid the question on 300+ dead children? I bet you consider them all enemy without knowing them!
I want to know how they think and unfortunately I have quite a bit of distance between me and Israel. I am going to Afghanistan you numbfuck. The Qur'an explains their motivation and how they think of people, along with Hadiths and the help of history. Also the news tell me just what they are doing in there, oh... training children to hate jews and to fight, using them as human shields.
Yes I support Zionism, atleast I can admit that Israel exists, are you a muslim or something? Just wondering.
And howcome you avoided my question of the little girls and the thousands of rockets being fired across the border into Israel when IDF had not invaded Gaza yet?
Zionism is the international Jewish political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine, after two millennia of exile.
"...a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine, after two millennia of exile."
"Palestine invaded first?"
So now I think I come close to understanding you. You blame Palestinians for the actions of people 2000 years ago. Thats insane, thats crazy. I thought you were an Athiest by your own claims yet you are so willing to beleive in the Torah and Bible about this "story". Israel invaded first, as simple as that you fucking idiot. You are so fucking dumb! End!
... I explained the meaning of zionism, you are once again twisting my words. Stop claiming these are in my own words because they aren't. I am an atheist and I do not believe in the teachings of any religious books, but I do believe in historical facts, and Israel was invaded first in 1948. IF you deny that, you are no better than Hamas, believing the same Propaganda bullshit as the Palestinians people who are fed this shit by their government
No you Zionist Cunt. You are good at "not knowing History" or bending it to suit your purpose. When the world gets rid of Zionist scum like you then the world will be a safer place for all people (Jewish, Christian, Muslim).
You Zionists even attack Jewish people who don't conform to your demands. You are terrorists responsible for the Bombing of British Soldiers in Palestine. Zionists are terrorists and like terrorists they should be wiped of the earth.
So that is how you responded to the fact? Well, how about you check the Arab-Israeli conflict and you see immediately that the NEXT DAY ISRAEL IS ESTABLISHED, Arab nations invaded Israel.
Your view again of Zionism is corrupted by Palestinian terrorists. Check what it really means, you might get a surprise! *Gasp*
Actually I'd rather know the truth no matter what it was. I have no reason to support Israel but so far I am convinced on supporting their independence over bloodthirsty hamas.
P.S. I am from the UK, and all the information I get is from the News. The same place you claimed to get information from. I see that it is pointless to continue to with you since you are a Zionist and the only way you will accept you are wrong is when someone blows your head off. So good luck in Afghanistan!
Yet you are unable to understand how they think because the Qur'an much like the Bible contains double meanings. As a typical Zionist you are grouping all Palestinians into the same box. Woman, children and men. Yes Hammas attacked Israel and yest Hammas is wrong, but we are talking about Palestinians not Hammas whom happen to represent a majority of Palestinians. What about the Palestinians who voted against Hammas? Should they also too be blamed? In your view they should and thats sick!
Zionism has nothing to do with this, your view of zionism is completely different. And you aren't grouping all the Israelis in the same box? Not only did Hamas attack Israel, but so did the Arab nations when it declared it's independence. Hamas are Palestinians, hell, they are their government now. So... what do you suggest Israel should do? Sit there while hamas launched rockets just because some Palestinians VOTED against Hamas? What do you think Israel should do? Huh?
No, those are my words twisted by you. Palestine invaded first? Idiot, look at history. The next day Israel declared independence the Arab Nations started the war and INVADED Israel. British Mandate divided the region of Palestine into two states, Arab and Jewish state, what is so complicated about that? The Soviet Union and USA recgonized this division, but not Arabs.
So please tell me then. Where was Palestine in 1938? Because according to your own warped view on history Palestine was never there if what you want me to believe is right! Trying to tell me that becasue the US and Russia and the UK said the country should be split into two areas the Palestinians allready living of that land for many many years should just accept it. Thats where Zionism fails.
Jewish lived in that land many many many years before the arabs. They lived there as Palestinians, just like the Arabs. So don't say that it wasn't fair, both sides struggled for independence and both sure as hell deserved their own country. The Qur'an has alot of contradictions, but there is such a thing as abrogation in Qur'an, meaning the older verses are replaced with "new" and "better" ones. Abrogating ALL of the peaceful ones that is.
Further - Who gives a fuck about the Qur'an and "Abrogating" since the Bible does the same. In the Bible it is a sin to eat Pork. But because later on some different man had a vision of "all the animals" Pork then became clean to eat in the Bible. If you really want to know your enemy then know the Bible also since the Qur'an and the Bible whilst being different have common factors. But hey, your a Zionist and Zionist's can't have an open mind, can they?
I think that goes back to the Palestines. They want Israel right? including Jerusalem. In the Koran Jerusalem is mentioned 0 time, in the Tora it's mentioned over 400 times. If those who take or attempt to take land that is not theirs should be punished it's the palestinans that should suffer too. And even if you believe otherwise, blowing up buses and sending rockets to CIVILIAN homes is no way to reach your goals. It's the ways of brainwashed cowards. The Hamas are terrorists.
This from Gerald Kaufman, Jewish member of UK parliament ...
"may I ask him what the international reaction would be if Hamas had slaughtered nearly 900 Israelis and subjected nearly 1.5 million Israelis to degradation and deprivation? Is it not an incontrovertible fact that Olmert, Livni and Barak are mass-murderers and war criminals? Yes. And they bring shame on the Jewish people whose Star of David they use as a flag in Gaza..."
What a cheap attempt at an Israeli Propaganda. Jews themselves, those good ones are ashamed of it. Zionists on the other hand are loosing the battle of rhetoric and are resorting to force. Unless you change the tactics you Zionist Idiots, you will invite another Holocaust and this one will be your last one. I would find it terrible as Jews are good people as most people in this world are. Zionists and those supporting TERROR STATE OF ISRAEL on the othe hand are parasites.
Arab 11 we really are trying to be the human beings in this war but its unpossible living this way when u are bombed all the time i mean we have to react and that's the only way we can, and unfortunetly that's power is the only thing this men understand and u know we are just protecting ourselves and for now USA is with us...
The world needs to understand our point of view also... we are no attacking for nothing...
ur talkin about impossible livin when u r bombed? ur such a hypocrite, why wud u do that to gaza then? y dnt u go and live with ur american friend IN america where a jewish population alredy lives and leave the original inhabitants alone in peace. this didnt start 20 days ago, this started 60 years ago when zionists stole land of palestinians and pushed the original inhabitants of sderot into gazan refugee camps
no your right man israel belongs to the jews...jst like america belongs to native americans u dumb cunt! and as jews i think you've gotten enough sympathy for the hard times you went through...but i cant believe a people like your who know what its like to live in genocide are doing the same to palestinians...thats disgusting? the way things are going ur destined 2 distruction..what do you think will happen when america stops supporting u? it will b ugly but u cant say u did bring it on urselves
people of sderot stand up for yourselfs destroy gaza destroy amalek!!!!
horsefeathers87 5 months ago
To all those who get worked up about humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza: Israel is giving more aid than are all the other Arabs. By supporting Palestinians in Gaza, Israel is indirectly supporting Palestinians who prefer terrorizing Jews over supporting their own families.
RnBramwell 6 months ago
run motherfuckers!!! run!! you want kill palestinian kids and expect no revenge
MrSuper2007 8 months ago
@MrSuper2007
we try not to kill inncoent people but they take them as human shileds.
they protect themselves by risking their own children..I suggest you to watch a little bit of the videos and youll see what really heappens.
they try in purpose to kill children we try to hurt the people that try to kill us.
yet-many palestinian children harm our soldires and know that they wont hurt them back them beacuse of their age.
WE ARE HUMANITERIAN.THEY ARE NOT.
sapir321321 8 months ago
@sapir321321 thats why the numbers are a thousand to 1 . real humantarian those israelis . israelis have more modern warfare then us why they kill way more. i'll tell you why israel uses our death to show others not to attack them
MrSuper2007 8 months ago
@MrSuper2007 It is the other way around. run, motherfuckers, run! you want to kill israeli children and expect no revenge.
msmcis 5 months ago
palestinians are animals who dont deserve to live. long live israel!
babal1ty 1 year ago 2
@Fremen87
another idiot.
IsraelExplain 1 year ago
@Hetman1974
yah? come visit sderot, buddy.
IsraelExplain 1 year ago
Hollywood backing I see.
Hetman1974 1 year ago
@Hetman1974 Hamas has been sending rockets into Israel for years and years, only now are we, the jews doing something about. Most arabs, not all ofcourse but most are radicals. Like I say, not all arabs are terrorists, but all terrorists are arabs"
agold123456789 1 year ago 2
How dangerously is a katjusha and how dangerously are Israeli bombs?
Investigate !
You can run away...Palestinian not !!!
Fremen87 1 year ago
@Fremen87 Your logic is laughable.
Auggie56 9 months ago
Let´s pray for the Peace of Israel!
honeybum100 1 year ago 3
I honestly don't give a shit when people compare the death tolls in both Gaza and Israel. You know why? Because there are so many fucking Muslims on this planet that I really don't care if many of them die. It's there own fault Israel took care of them in an act of self-defense. You fucking communists who support Hamas should get decked in the face. You people are disrespectful and a shame to your own countries.
goblue122394 1 year ago 2
its a tragedy about that. its terror, in the name of religion. hamas should be destroyed for these actions. peaceloving people are threatened for nothing.
some has to be responsible !!!
its a tragedy about that. its terror, in the name of religion. hamas should be destroyed for these actions. peaceloving people are threatened for nothing.
some has to be responsible !!!
oxymoronbln 1 year ago
Go look on you tube and see why some soldiers in the Israeli army do not want to serve in the army.
They do not want to serve in the army because they were ordered to kill unarmed men women and children.
MrFlamable 1 year ago
@MrFlamable That happens when the cowardly hamas uses them for shields.
Auggie56 9 months ago
@Auggie56 israel would never beat palestine if they had a army. we have a stronger will
MrSuper2007 8 months ago
@MrSuper2007 Yes, but your will comes from evil!
msmcis 5 months ago
Death to Israel. Hamas should rape all israelis one by one
mozyCLS 1 year ago
@mozyCLS lol not gonna happened buddy
ofek3 1 year ago
Israel must get out of the west bank and stop oppressing Palestinians.
All this talk of human sheilds is hooey and repeated only so that lazy western brains will accept it. There is more hate for Arabs by Israeli's that could be measured in Germany 60 years ago. Stop the hate. Stop all support of Israel.
JohnnyRock2000 1 year ago
btw check out youtube and you will find proof for hamas using children.
Or are you to stupid for it?
Stas2468 1 year ago
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to MrFlamable the idiot. It is one thing to have weapons the other thing to use them.
And the few Hamas has is enough because that fucked up brainwashed terrorist are using them to fire at children.
So fuck you. People like you are the once who encourage the evil.
Stas2468 1 year ago
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Stas2468 1 year ago
Hamas is using children as human shields!!!!!!
These are the words of a lying and deceiving Israeli government.
Can you think about that before you say these words.
MrFlamable 2 years ago
@MrFlamable yeh and hamas is also fighting a "holy war"
fuck that shit
ofek3 1 year ago
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"Hamas is trying to defend their families,country and the right to live and not die."
So is Israel when they invaded Gaza. Don't the Israelis also have families and country to defend? But unlike Hamas, Israel does not fire rockets aimed at civilians.
RebelRay 2 years ago
"Hamas are freedom and liberation fighters not terrorists as Israel call them."
Firing rockets aimed at innocent civilians makes Hamas terrorists.
RebelRay 2 years ago
The last Gaza war 1400 Palestinians are dead 450 of them are children and on the Israeli side 17 soldiers.
Israel has the nuclear weapon not Hamas.
Hamas are freedom and liberation fighters not terrorists as Israel call them.
Hamas is trying to defend their families,country and the right to live and not die.
MrFlamable 2 years ago
"The last Gaza war 1400 Palestinians are dead 450 of them are children"
Tell Hamas to stop using Palestinians, especially the children, as human shields.
RebelRay 2 years ago 17
Sign the petition!!!!!!!!!!
Israel has the weapons of mass destruction not Hamas.
There are always more and more numbers that die on the Palestinian side than Israel.
MrFlamable 2 years ago
I support Israel against the Islamic terror.
Lets pray for the peace of Israel.
God bless anf protect Israel forever.
So Israel will NEVER fall>
FlorienBloem777 2 years ago 16
How could Israel ever fall with 200 nuclear bombs???
Islamic terror??? Explain??
All you seem to be doing here is posting propagander since you havn't really made any point!!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
So Israel will NEVER fall>
lol, the Nazi's would have said the same thing! In fact they went one step further and said their ideoligy would last a thousand years.
Look where the Nazi's are now! Zionists will fall and Israel will be a Free country open to all no matter what your ethnic blood or religion is.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
I bet you believe that Israel should be split to 2 countries which will bring peace. I hate to break it to you, the palestinians don't WANT peace and they don't want just a part of Israel- they want ALL OF IT! what it the solution to this? If Israel can't trust Hamas they couldn't live among them. Also, if Israel would be open to EVERYONE it would lose it's point. Jewish people need a country so what happened in WWII won't happen again. Oh and don't compare nazis to Israel, you are retarded.
NoyChan 2 years ago
"I bet you believe that Israel should be split to 2 countries"
No, I don't beleive Israel should be split at all!! Thats not what is on the table here!!!! The West Bank and Gaza and other areas are not Israeli land therefore the fighting is all about Palestinians getting what rightfully belongs to them according to a UN Resolution which also helped to for Israel as a Country. Now Israel wants to ignore that same Resolution which marks out the Borders.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
No one is stopping the Palestinians to form a country within the boundries of Gaza. They simply want Jerusalem and pretty much all of Israel too- too much. Also, from recent affairs the UN has shown to be completly biased against Israel due to the majority of Arab nations. I do not respect any of their so called resolutions. How could peace be made with those who don't want it? Trust me if Gaza will stop bombing everything in sight they will get their independence.
NoyChan 2 years ago
Ass cunt,
"No one is stopping the Palestinians to form a country within the boundries of Gaza."
Your a complete time waster and you really have no idea about the situation!! Go fuck yourself and hope your entire family stop reproducing shit like you!!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
I know a lot more about the situation than you do you prick. I bet you are one of those people who stand at the side giving opinions about things they claim to understand yet don't. I grew up in this shit. I grew up with buses exploding and lived through 3 wars.
I think that if people like you, who claim to be objective and understanding yet are retatrds die, the world would be a better place. You little shitface, I hope you die of cancer.
NoyChan 2 years ago
"I know a lot more about the situation than you do you prick."
No you don't and you prove that when you claim Palestinians enter Israeli houses!!!
Like I said before there is no point to debate with a shit like you. All I can do is remind you how much I used your mother last night!!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
You obviously don't know shit about the situation and thus I really think we should end this discussion. Don't bother straining your one working brain cell.
NoyChan 2 years ago
Ass Cunt,
You must have a mental condition!! I told you twice I am NOT debating with you because YOU DONT have your FACTS!!!!
Now you are trying to reapeat my own words back to me because you CANT THINK for yourself!! Does your mother help you orgasm as well???
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Nothing you say can change the FACT that Israel should stop preventing the Native People of their land from having a part of their country back.
Israel is a theif for that!! The theif doesn't wan't to let its victim control their own life, nor does the thief want them to intergrate with Israel!!!
The only option for Israel then is Genocide!! They want to live in Peace but they also don't want to be kicked out of their house inside Palestinian land which is the norm today!
Sick Country
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
what I don't understand is how come when Palestinians blow up buses and break into houses and slaughter children it is accepted but when Israel goes to war to protect its citizens while still attempting to minimize damage to the Gaza population by warning them it's genocide.
Your "theft" was Jewish people who bought swamps leagally from Arabs and turned them into cities. THEN the wanted it back.
Is the US not made of immigrants? Isn't Australia? what about South Africa. You hypocrite.
NoyChan 2 years ago
"break into houses and slaughter children"
LOL, your a total fuckwit!!! break into houses??? Where?? How??? Slaughter children??? Don't you mean IDF which has bombed 240 Palestinian schools and UN compounds.
Since you can't get your facts right there isn't any point to answer any more shit you have to write.
All I can do is repeat how much of a slut whore your mother is and how much she lets men cum over her face!!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Palestinians DID break into houses in jewish settlements a few years back. They broke into them and literally slaughtered children in their sleep. This was prior to the evacuation of the settlements. After that they focused on bombs and shootings. How do I know? I READ THE PAPERS! I bet you'll deny the lynch that occured in the year 2000 when 2 soliders entered Gaza by accident and turned for the autorities for help and yet were killed without mercy. you get YOUR facts straight fag.
NoyChan 2 years ago
"Palestinians DID break into houses in jewish settlements"
Thats different, I fully support that since settlements are illegal. But killing children is something Jewish people are much better at and do at great speed!!
You should know that you Nazi.
Why is your mother such a whore slut?? Can you answer that one??
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
so you are saying you support Palestinians killing children. Good job ass. The settlements were cleared out by Israeli forces a few years back. This didn't stop Palestinians of abducting and bombing other citizens and children for years and years. Is that illegal? Sitting in your house (not in a jewish settlement)? I guess it is because they were bombed.
Dissing my mother won't make you sound smarter or understand more. It'll just make you mroe of a prick than you are. Graz!
NoyChan 2 years ago
LOL, I'm sot saying anything since I'm not debating with an ass cunt like you.
Hows your mother??
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Doesn't your father want me to watch whilst I stick my shaft into your mother and give you a little brother??
Your mother is so cheap ;-)
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
NoChan, when you see your sister tell her she still owes me that Blow job from last week.
After all I did pay her for that service, its only right she follows thru!!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
As I said before, attempting to insult me won't make you smarter or more understanding of anything. It'll just make you a fuckface. OH WAIT! you already are one. Big shock there.
NoyChan 2 years ago
Ass cunt,
your mother has a nice round ass which looks nice when giving doggystyle!!
She allways screams so loud that I sometimes think your inbreed father may hear us fucking. Of course, he's allways stuck to the TV and doesn't much care to pleasure your mothers pussy hole!!
Thats why she needs me :-)
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
I rest my case. You have no facts of knowledge so you attempt to insult me. Have fun living your loser life cunt.
NoyChan 2 years ago
Ass cunt, its because of your Lack of Knowledge in the subject that I can only speak about your mother.
Since you also have experience with your mothers pussy I find it better to talk of that instead!!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
My lack of knowledge? wow, ok. You know what? fuck you, keep living in fantasies where you are god and know it all. In reality you are probably some 15 year old retard who thinks he's all that when in essence he will stay in his room forever and jacks off to playboy. Either that or a "off the chart" retard. I have no idea why I keep talking to you. Dickhead. Go burn in hell.
NoyChan 2 years ago
Ass Cunt, Yes, your lack of knowledge!!!!
" I have no idea why I keep talking to you."
Because your mother sucks my penis and I come over her face!!!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
You've not shown your opinion is supported by any evidence so far, so it's your lack of knowledge.
Is ass cunt the only insult you know? fucking idiot.
NoyChan 2 years ago
Ass Cunt,
If you wan't evidence I can send you the cum stained underwear which your mother wears!!! Would that be evidence enough for you???
Or would you prefer a video of me fucking your mother doggystyle??? Let me know and I'll see what I can arrange for you!! Of course its up to your mother if she accepts you.
Maybe you could join in a lick your mothers pussy or even get her pregnant so she can have your son and brother!!!
Your family are inbreeds!!!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
P.S. Your mother enjoys being tied up and she likes it the most when In tell her shes a dirty whore while she sucks me off.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
go buy some brainz ashole i hope u rot in hell with them
hezballahh 1 year ago
@FlorienBloem777 amen.
ReviewCam 1 year ago
@FlorienBloem777
I support Islam against Israeli terror.
Lets pray for the death of Israel.
mozyCLS 1 year ago
yea, sign the petition to allow israel do WHATEVER to stop the rockets!! bomb all palestine! then bomb all of lebanon! and dont stop there, bomb bomb booombbb!! and then take some more land somewhere, make the people living there live like shit, and bomb them too!
juancsmix 2 years ago
Remove the blockade and you wont get rockets lauched at you. Its the israeli government to blame.
knabbbble 2 years ago
it is like the trailor of a movie jews r acting loool what is the name of that jewish director? i want him to make an action movie it would be so cool
watchthisplz 2 years ago
o wow a firework hit israel and they go crazy when their dropping white phosphorus.
these jews grow up in riches while the palestinians grow up in ghettos. hmm i wonder y the palestinians are so used to attacks and israelis piss their pants over a firework hitting their 5 million dollar mansion
zizzy007 2 years ago
since when fireworks contain hundreds of tiny metal balls?
you're going to argue which way of dying is better? be slaughtered by tiny balls or get burned by white phosphorus?
nana5445445445 2 years ago
any way, even if throuwing a little rock is going to hurt someone of us, we wont except it.
if the missle is not deadly (which it does), so we shouldn't stop it? were you droped on your head?!
nana5445445445 2 years ago
do u ever stfu... ur saying its fine to attack UN schools and burn children to death. while israel has the capabilities to block missiles but not firework rockets.. o wow im pretty sure u were the fuck up that got dropped in your head. PS im not going to argue with someone like u that likes talking alot of shit and yes i did talk alot of shit because u did. have a good day
zizzy007 2 years ago
IDF bombed the UN school during the month of the war. Hams was sending Qassams and Grads for more then 8 years, and Israel did nothing.
watch who you're talking to.
nana5445445445 2 years ago
o so thats why UN officals said that there was no one firing rockets from the UN school. and the Un officals weren't muslims or even Palestinians so they can't be lying to make the situation worse.... Israel uses that excuse so they can kill children and there brothers will get pissed off and grow up to join Hamas since they have no other option.. get ur facts strait before u talk
zizzy007 2 years ago
long time ago IDF spokesman said it was a mistake (hiting the Un school).
but what does Hamas has to say? he shot inicent civilians for over 8 years, but they did it on purpose.
nana5445445445 2 years ago
i agree hamas is a bitch but who else is going to the palestinian people going to look for... hamas has weapons and the palestinian people need a "hero" . I really think the best solution is to split the land in half and end hamas.
zizzy007 2 years ago
this conflict was started with this suggestio, but the palestinians just said "NO" and went to war and killed 6000 jews.
nana5445445445 2 years ago
so why can't the solution be dealt with now? with a stricter form of policy than the loosely built contract back than.
zizzy007 2 years ago
it wasn't loosely.
the palestinians would have the most of the land in that contract, but they covet all of it, and this vision is not about to change. I would agree with you, if i wouldn't hear every day their calls to "free palestine!", "our enemy is Israel, they have no right to exist, must be destroyed".
all be it only with an Arabic accent.
nana5445445445 2 years ago
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The massacre in Gaza, planned six months in advance, is not about Hamas or rockets but about Israel's recent elections and denying the right of a Palestinian state. Israel's own human rights organization, B'tselem, describes it as a crime against humanity. Was the result of the Israeli election worth the obscene carnage in Gaza?
RobGnorts 2 years ago
Really? Is there a verse in the bible that abrogates all the prevorious ones that contradict the newer ones? I thought you said the Bible was based on dualism? Are you contradicting yourself?
Hah! The bible my enemy... They are no threat to me, so why should I engage them? 95 percent of terrorism is caused by Islam.
I have an open mind, I used to be like you, believing in 9/11 conspiracy theories and such, I even hated Americans because of the general opinion, but hey, I did RESEARCH!
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Well thanks for sharing your past hate of Americans for the actions of its Governmnet. That is why a conversation with you is like talking to a dog. Why hate Americans for their Governments actions? Is it because you think that everyone choose their leader? Now on to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Palestine never agreed to have its land split into fragments. You talk about all Arabs being involved. It was only 7 our of 13 Arab nations who attacked Israel. Not all of them.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
I do not hate Americans anymore and neither do I hate their government. "why a conversation with you is like talking to a dog" You're a muslim, I knew it. Palestine's other half agreed and the other half did not, Jews were Palestinians at that time. Oh, so now that all Arab Nations didn't engage I have to start listing them seperately? Grow up.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
"I do not hate Americans anymore"
When you make a statement like this it can only mean that at one time in your past you hated all Americans for the actions of a few. Here you demonstrate to me and the world how your mind thinks. Now you don't hate Americans but you see all Palestinians as the "enemy". Now when you keep saying "Arabs" attacked Israel you forget that there are 13 Arab nations. Only 6 of them attacked Israel. Make your point clear then I won't attack your statements.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Demonstrate how my mind thinks? Well it kind of depends on who you live with, for example the global opinion at that time used to be that Americans suck, etc and I never really questioned that. It's like how you think of Israelis atm.
I do not see Palestinians as the enemy, for fuck sake learn to read. I said HAMAS and TERRORISTS do not mean Palestinians in general. You are once again twisting my words to your own liking. I said Arab Nations, do I really need to list them all for you?
StripesReaper 2 years ago
It would help if you listed the 6 Arab Nations which attacked Israel since like MarkPevar is pointing out to you and what I have allready pointed out to you is that there are 13. "Arab Nations" means all 13 and at no point in any history has all 13 Arab nations attacked Israel. If that was the case then Israel would not exist today.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Fine, I will start listing all of the countries that participated in the invasion along with those that supported the invasions, making my comments longer. Happy? Or then we can agree by Arab Nations in this context would mean the 6 nations.
Well the others probably would've invaded if they knew they would've lost. Heh.
I did answer your question and I asked you a question that was similiar, are you not going to answer my question?
StripesReaper 2 years ago
As for the UN transporting Hammas troops.
Where do you get this information from? What is your source so I may see it with my own eyes??
Why was the UN (United Nations) buildings bombed?? Are you suggesting that the UN supported Hammas in allowing them to launch missiles from their buildings?
Surely the United Nations which is made from most of the nations of the world would not be supporting terrorism. For such an accusation there must be clear evidence you can show?
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
watch?v=5oesBeCFAlg
Video of UN ambulances with Hamas "freedomfighters"
I HIGHLY doubt UN is supporting Hamas,but there's a possibility that these vehicles were stolen, OR the UN drivers had the same disgust towards Israle as Hamas does. Hamas were fireing from the UN buildings along with many many other buildings.
I never said UN was supporting terrorism.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Swedish is my secondary language, Finnish is my motherlanguage. Though I do understand Sverige ^_^ I prefer speaking English over it.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
I thank you for giving your source. This source shows some militia using a vehicle with UN flag and UN logo's. What the video does not do is show where this occured and when. But you wanted to present this evidence in support of Israel bombing UN buildings which contained Food Supplies and was under international control at the time of the bombing. So my question still remains. Why did Israel bomb UN buildings? Why did they use an illegal weapon (white Phospherus)??
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Well it's quite obivious, and I didn't say this was linked to the UN buildings being bombed. I said the reason why the UN buildings were bombed at was because of Hamas fighters fireing at Israeli troops from WITHIN these buildings, it's pretty clear Hamas does not respect the international control of the UN.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
The only way for Hamas to carry out a rocket attack from a UN compound is if the UN sits back and allows it. If this were the case then the UN would have pulled out since allowing Hamas to fire such rockets from its compound would create a risk for the international staff working there. Plus, UN staff reported that no Hamas rockets were fired from within its compound. I'm not prepared to beleive that the international community would turn a blind eye to such actions.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Ahh there seems to have been some confusion on this. "The probe, which was conducted by the Paratrooper Brigade whose troops were responsible for the area, found that the army's location system to pinpoint launch sites indicated that militants had launched a Qassam rocket into Israel from within a yard adjacent to the courtyard of the UN building. However, the GPS element has an error margin of 30 meters and one of the three rounds fired slammed into the building owned by the United Nations.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Israel never admited this mistake. Israel has allways stated that their weapons are 100% accurate to its target. Now your telling me there is a 30 meters error margin. Then these weapons should not be used.
Gaza is over populated so where ever you drop Phospherus your going to injure or kill civilians. As Israel knows this fact they also understood that these weapons would hurt or kill civilians. Its use against civilians is illegal and Israel knew civilians would be hurt by its use.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
People are wrong too, you know? No, theres no such thing as a perfectly accurate weapon, not even in the US military, especially NOT ALL OF THEM. Besides, the GPS is not a weapon. And Yes, IDF has made a further investigation of this.
It is used as self-defense, I do not really see why they can't shield themselves. Yes it might cause injury, but I have never heard of anything so serious as DEATH from smoke grenades. It is not illegal to use smoke grenades, FACT.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
No it's not forbidden by the CWC if it is used within the context of a military application which does not require or does not intend to use the toxic properties of white phosphorus. White phosphorus is normally used to produce smoke, to camouflage movement. If that is the purpose for which the white phosphorus is used, then that is considered under the convention legitimate use"
StripesReaper 2 years ago
New evidence is coming out that this was not the only illegal weapon being used against civilians. (Source's Russia Today, BBC News, CNN, FOX)
Your a zionist cunt, and nothing you say will ever hide the fact that Israel is causing these problems.
By the way, check out this video to see the conditions of the People living in Gaza. What would you feel like living there with no choice???
watch?v=X0T3jMRNwV8
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
The White Phospherus being used against the UN building is not only a smoke grenade. This weapon was combined with a bomb so where the bomb hits is where the phospherus is. Simply put, if it were only as a smoke screen then it would only hide dead bodies! FACT.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Let me write this again. Are you going to give your answer or are you going to continue to prove how weak minded you are?
What do you think about the fact that 300+ children have been killed by Israeli bombings and armed forces and why was the United Nations attacked?
P.S. This is the 4th time I ask you about the deaths of 300+ children. Are you going to answer this time?
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Israeli bombings targeted on Hamas. Ofcourse now they have realized that the way to fight the airforce is by propaganda and using human shields, it'sa fact that the civilians gather around to the bombing sites and around Hamas. Which ones fault is it really? Why was UN attacked? Hamas were reported fireing at Israeli troops and the natural reaction to that is return fire. How about the UN ambulances transferring Hamas troops? Isn't that a war crime? Why do you concentrate only on Israel?
StripesReaper 2 years ago
So, what is your opinion on the deaths of 300+ children in Gaza?? What is your opinion, your thought, what you think?
You mention Human Shield. To answer this we must understand that Gaza is small and over populated by refugees who fled from Zionist opression.
Now considering that how can the people of Gaza leave Gaza if they can not obtain a Passport? Where is their choice in the matter?
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
You still failed to answer my question and demand for my answer without answering mine. Well, verywell. I think war and killing is rarely justified, but this case is not one of them. Even though Israel has all it's right to defend itself from Hamas terrorists, it still doesn't justify the killing of these children. BUT you can't put this all on Israel's shoulders, they gather around purposedly in the name of their religion and because Hamas tells them to.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
"I am an atheist and I do not believe in the teachings of any religious books..."
"history is also based on valuable religious scriptures from that time, so if you deny that then you can't really think anything is reliable..."
Exactly, I am not contradicting myself in anyway in these statements. Maybe you should read more carefully? I'll give you a hint, the word starts with a T.
Funny how you two must resort to personal insults, I like the one where you call me a "cock sucker". Homophobia?
StripesReaper 2 years ago
The reason I am telling you that you contradict yourself is due to the fact that you are telling me that:
1 - You don't beleive in the scripture.
2 - That you think the scripture is a valuable source of information.
So the contradiction still stands! How can you both Not beleive the scripture and consider it valuable?
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
The main utility of white phosphorus munitions is to create smokescreens to mask movement from the enemy, or to mask his fire. particularly as smoke grenades for infantry; loaded in defensive grenade dischargers on tanks and other armored vehicles; or as part of the ammunition allotment for artillery or mortars. do believe in the scripture... Gosh, you fail to understand the word "teachings", I do not agree to the moral promptings of the book.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Its illegal to use such weapons against civilians as defined under International Law. (Source = Secretary General of the UN).
Accpeting this weapons use against civilians makes you no better then the Nazi's who used Gas chambers. Thats because they are both illegal. If you want to support this weapon then please tell me that you accept what Hitler did during world war 2, otherwise just accept tha Israel breached the law. Defence or no Defence, laws are there to protect all people.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
They weren't used "against" civilians, they were used as to mask the movement of the fireteam. These are used in all militaries in smoke grenades for example.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Nonetheless, in discussing the incident with Haaretz, some IDF officers say the force should have refrained from using mortar rounds and relied instead on more accurate fire. Military sources said the UNRWA building was marked on the maps of forces operating in the area.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
What was your question which I failed to answer? I will answer it for you!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Ok, since you are from Finland and they speak Swedish in Finland I must assume that Swedish is your first language. Your mother tounge. So I will ask you the question in a simple way in Swedish!
Är vad din åsikt på barn 300+ som dödas i Gaza?
Why bombarderades Förenta nationen?
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
I have asked you StripesReaper to give me your own opinion about the deaths of 300+ children in Gaza and I have asked you to give me sources ("evidence" in English) which support your claim that the UN are commitng "War Crimes".
Why do you not give a response?? Is it because you do not have any evidence for your claims!?! I have spoken in the past to 20+ Zionists and eventually they all run away when asked to give evidence to support their case. Are you going to run away from this??
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Lets clear one more thing up shall we. You admit to being a Zionist and at the same time writing their propaghanda whilst not reasling that Israel's establishment was based on the Hebrew Bible. For the Hebrew Bible is the only source for this 2000 year old exodus. Now how can you claim to be an Athiest when you clearly follow the Hebrew Bible?? You arguement is based on religious text so how can you be an athiest and say what you say at the same time?? Thats why your a fucked up Zionist!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
I admit being Zionist, as in supporting the independence of Israel. I do not follow the bible, I believe they have a right to their own country. So, if I try to explain Qur'an is bad by it's text I'm not an atheist? Amazing, never knew that! Thanks! I quess I'm a muzzie then.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
No, no, no. Go back and read what I wrote. Let the words sink into that weak mind of yours. Open up your mind.
My questioning your Atheism does not mean I am calling you a Muslim. Think. The reason I doubt your claim is because you base your facts (Exodus) on Hebrew Bible.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Furthermore, what research did you do?? Did that research include listening to other Zionists telling you what happened and did that research include your Hebrew Bible which you both follow and agree with but at the same time do not follow and do not agree with since you are an Athiest (your words not mine). Maybe your research selectively dissregards facts that you seem unable to look at or see. Maybe you are suffering from some mental imbalance!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
You seem to have no idea of the meaning of Research. I get my facts from neutral sources and after that studying from BOTH SIDES OF PERSPECTIVE. Unlike you obiviously. Funny how you say I'm selective of the things I read when you seem to think Israel is pure evil and Palestine are just innocent people fighting for their land.
To mark: My views are not based on a bible but that their people has the right for independence! I never said anything about a bible.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Ok, let me teach you. FACT 1 - You stated that the Jews were forced into exile 2000 years ago. FACT 2 - You believe it is the present day Palestinians who have invaded Palestine.
Answers:
FACT 1 = The only source for your Exodus story is from the Hebrew Bible since no one is alive today from 2000 years ago.
FACT 2 = Palestinians never invaded Palestine since they allways lived there (2000 years according to your own statements).
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
And the Qur'an speaks of their exile. I use historical facts to support my claims, and history is also based on valuable religious scriptures from that time, so if you deny that then you can't really think anything is reliable.
What the hell are you babbling about? I never said Palestinians invaded Palestine.
There were 6 countries and several terrorist "freedom fighters" such as Hamas.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Tzimnewman3 - Thanks for your posts. Your completely right in what you say since StripesReaper does infact contridict his own views. As you showed us here he said he is an Athiest and his views regarding Israel are based on the hebrew bible. Which is is StripesReaper?? Are you an Athiest who beleives in the hebrew bible? Or are you just some sad lonely old man who is begginig to loose your mind? I suspect you are the latter!
MarkPevar 2 years ago
Thanks MarkPevar for your comments. I am really glad that there is someone out there who understands my words. I honestly was getting tired with this guy since the more he speaks the more he proves himself wrong.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
No problems Tzimnewman
I've met countless zionists on youtube and they all seem to be so closed minded such as stripesreaper. I liked how he tries to make out that all Arabs are the same. He had nothing to say when you tolled him that 7 out of 13 Arab nations went to war with Israel. What he fails to understand is that if Egypt had continued its push into Israel then Palestine would have been liberated and this conflict would not exist. Like you say zionists are hard to communicate with.
MarkPevar 2 years ago
"seem to be so closed minded such as stripesreaper. I liked how he tries to make out that all Arabs are the same"
When did I ever say all Arabs are the same? I said nothing about race but Islam. Funny how you twist my words into your own liking though.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Ok, I will make it easier for you now. Let me ask you one question and lets see what your response to that question will be.
By the way this question is on the situation.
What do you think about the fact that 300+ children have been killed by Israeli bombings and armed forces and why was the United Nations attacked?
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
"the Arab Nations started the war"
"The Soviet Union and USA recgonized this division, but not Arabs."
You make out that all Arabs are the same because you claim "Arabs" attacked Israel whilst neglecting the fact that there are 13 Arab nations and only 6 of them from 13 attacked Israel. Tzimnewman allready explained this to you but your English is poor so you can not understand.
MarkPevar 2 years ago
Oh my fucking god MarkPevar, you sure are a dot fucker aren't you? Arabs were the ones opposing Israel, yes, but that doesn't still mean I think Arabs are all the same.
I understand the 6 Arab Nations invaded Israel, what the hell are you talking about?
StripesReaper 2 years ago
"Oh my fucking god MarkPevar..."
You sound like a 14 year old English girl!
Your statement:
"I am an atheist and I do not believe in the teachings of any religious books..."
"history is also based on valuable religious scriptures from that time, so if you deny that then you can't really think anything is reliable..."
You think of the religious scripture as both "valuable...scriptures" and "not believe...religious books"
Which one is it? You contradict yourself here!!
MarkPevar 2 years ago
xaxaxaxaxa LOL, Yeah you must be right MarkPevar. I've lost count of the times I hear girls speak like this.
I'm glad someone else is finaly understanding how much this "person" contradicts themselve. I've never come across a Zionist of this type before. They normaly do not contradict themselves and can often give some good debate. But they all run away in the end when it comes down to supporting their words with evidence. I think this guy has seen he can not win and as left. I may be wrong.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Sderot is built on the lands of Najd, a Palestinian village ethnically cleansed by Jewish militia in 1948. Its residents probably fled into the Gaza strip. Most of Gazas population is descended from such refugees.
At least 450 children are among the 1,330 Palestinians who have died since Israel began to bomb the Gaza enclave on December 27.
Al Jazeera has obtained the names of 210 of the young victims, 44 of which were under five years old.
Your deeds, good or bad, will repay you in Kind.
RobGnorts 3 years ago
get out off palestine and go back to europe. no more israel = peace in the mideast. this is THE ONLY way. next time war breaks ill be on a plane to jordan to volunteer for the army.
scarab08 3 years ago
They are instructed to not shoot at people who are no threat to them, even when thrown at with rocks they hold their fire unless it becomes serious they will need warning shots. So using children as human shields, hiding in UN facilities, fighting without a uniform in hatred towards Israel which started immediately when the country was established, though the opposition was defeated. Israel is proof that Islam is a fraud, for in the Qur'an, the jews will wander forever without land.
StripesReaper 3 years ago
It's Islam that brainwashes these people, it is called racism and Islamophobia to speak out against it, you are labeled an idiot, speaking out of context when the Qur'an is just a mess of commandments, it cannot be read out of context because it doesn't make any sense. You have to dig into the hadiths to see what Muhammad their very prophet did, and his deeds are reflected on the Qur'an. The slavery, hatred towards unbelievers, sovinism, death threats of conversion from Islam are what Islam is.
StripesReaper 3 years ago
Now label me an idiot for telling you this what you people told us about the 9/11...
"STOP BELIEVING THE MEDIA! AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!"
I did, now I know. The 9/11 conspiracy was proven wrong and in time we can show the government what they are ignoring, since we "white people" are evil because we are the most developed at the moment, therefore blaming down at muslims is a taboo, it never happened.. The most ignorant people are Muslims blinded by Islam.
StripesReaper 3 years ago
i converted and im still alive you fool. israel is a mistake that me and my people will correct! i'd befriend a muslim over a jewish zionist anyday. one day israel will suffer and be crushed, to once again wonder the earth in sorrow for another 2000 years.
scarab08 3 years ago
Well go take a visit to the neighborly and friendy muslims in the middle-east, especially Afghanistan.
With what military power? Go preach your anti-semitism somewhere else than in the region I live in for I doubt any of us really care.
StripesReaper 3 years ago
StripseReaper - Israel is proof that the Nazi's may be long gone but their Jewish borthers still keep the Nazi spirit alive by acting like Nazi's. Like RobGnorts has said. "Your deeds, good or bad, will repay you in Kind."
The Palestinians are the ones I will always feel sorry for since the Israeli's have everything and the Palestinians have nothing. That is why they fight people. They fight because everything they had was taken away. I would fight too if I were in the same boat!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
So...Jewish Defending Israel is being a nazi? I don't understand.
Ofcourse they have nothing since they always fight against Israel. Who invaded Israel the next day of its independence? Arab Nations! Who have been waging war since Israel was established? Arab nations! Who have won all the battles? Well... Israel.
Maybe if they stopped hating Israel and would concentrate on building instead of destroying they would have something. They fight because they are Jews and Islam hates Jews.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Ishaq:240 "The Jews are a nation of liars.... The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people."
Ishaq:253 "Allah cursed them for their unbelief. When a scripture comes to them from Allah confirming what they already have, they deny it. Allah's curse is on them."
Qur'an 5:51 "Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other."
Qur'an:8:7 "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"
StripesReaper 2 years ago
You explain for example the two little Israeli girls killed by hamas rockets, and those weren't accidiental, collateral damage like Israeli bombs are. No innocent life is ever justified, but war is war... And we ALL know who started this all.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Well, you explain to me how keeping 1 million and a half people under virtual arrest is not acting like the Nazi's. DId the Nazi's not force Jews in Warsar, Poland to live in a ghetto. They were free but at the same time they were not free to leave the area. Gaza is basicaly in the same situation. So if you continue to think that Israel is right then you also accept that Hitler was right what he did in Warsar, Poland. So far Nazi Israel has killed 300+ children. You explain that away!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Did I ever say I agree with the Israelis? I believe Israelis have the right to defend their country from Hamas and other Arab nations. Israel is being much more rough than the westerns would be, probably having something to do with realizing handleing people like these doesn't work with silk gloves. Muhammad beheaded 900 Jews by his own hands, Jews have been persecuted since Islam and still are treated as 2nd class citizens in Islamic countries.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
You didnt need to say how much you agree with with the Nazi's (I mean Israeli's). You allready show how much you support them in your writing. Whats your fascination with the Qur'an. Are you one of those Muslim Extremists or are you the Nazi type?
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
I'd support Israel over Hamas any day. What's my fascination with the Qur'an? I like to know my enemy first. I'm definately not a muslim extremist, I'm an atheist defending mine and others values.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
So i your own words you are defending the values of a country which acts like a Nazi! Thats all I wanted to know really. It pretty much sums you up. You are willing to ignore that Palestine was invaded first! Why can you so easily diss-regard that it was the UK Government which layed down the formation of the state called Isreal? Your claim is no different from me kicking you out of your house and when you try and get me back I call you the terrorist. That is your view! Its wrong!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Furthermore, if you relly intended to "learn the enemy" then you wouldn't be learning it from a worthless book you retard. If you really want to know your enemy like you keep claiming then its simple. Go and see the conditions in Gaza with your own eyes! Meet the men, woman and children. You don't need to believe in religion to be a Zionist and I'm afraid that is exactly what you are. Why did you avoid the question on 300+ dead children? I bet you consider them all enemy without knowing them!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
I want to know how they think and unfortunately I have quite a bit of distance between me and Israel. I am going to Afghanistan you numbfuck. The Qur'an explains their motivation and how they think of people, along with Hadiths and the help of history. Also the news tell me just what they are doing in there, oh... training children to hate jews and to fight, using them as human shields.
Yes I support Zionism, atleast I can admit that Israel exists, are you a muslim or something? Just wondering.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
And howcome you avoided my question of the little girls and the thousands of rockets being fired across the border into Israel when IDF had not invaded Gaza yet?
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Zionism is the international Jewish political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine, after two millennia of exile.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
These are you very own words:
"...a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine, after two millennia of exile."
"Palestine invaded first?"
So now I think I come close to understanding you. You blame Palestinians for the actions of people 2000 years ago. Thats insane, thats crazy. I thought you were an Athiest by your own claims yet you are so willing to beleive in the Torah and Bible about this "story". Israel invaded first, as simple as that you fucking idiot. You are so fucking dumb! End!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
... I explained the meaning of zionism, you are once again twisting my words. Stop claiming these are in my own words because they aren't. I am an atheist and I do not believe in the teachings of any religious books, but I do believe in historical facts, and Israel was invaded first in 1948. IF you deny that, you are no better than Hamas, believing the same Propaganda bullshit as the Palestinians people who are fed this shit by their government
StripesReaper 2 years ago
"Israel was invaded first in 1948."
No you Zionist Cunt. You are good at "not knowing History" or bending it to suit your purpose. When the world gets rid of Zionist scum like you then the world will be a safer place for all people (Jewish, Christian, Muslim).
You Zionists even attack Jewish people who don't conform to your demands. You are terrorists responsible for the Bombing of British Soldiers in Palestine. Zionists are terrorists and like terrorists they should be wiped of the earth.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
So that is how you responded to the fact? Well, how about you check the Arab-Israeli conflict and you see immediately that the NEXT DAY ISRAEL IS ESTABLISHED, Arab nations invaded Israel.
Your view again of Zionism is corrupted by Palestinian terrorists. Check what it really means, you might get a surprise! *Gasp*
Actually I'd rather know the truth no matter what it was. I have no reason to support Israel but so far I am convinced on supporting their independence over bloodthirsty hamas.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
P.S. I am from the UK, and all the information I get is from the News. The same place you claimed to get information from. I see that it is pointless to continue to with you since you are a Zionist and the only way you will accept you are wrong is when someone blows your head off. So good luck in Afghanistan!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Yet you are unable to understand how they think because the Qur'an much like the Bible contains double meanings. As a typical Zionist you are grouping all Palestinians into the same box. Woman, children and men. Yes Hammas attacked Israel and yest Hammas is wrong, but we are talking about Palestinians not Hammas whom happen to represent a majority of Palestinians. What about the Palestinians who voted against Hammas? Should they also too be blamed? In your view they should and thats sick!
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Zionism has nothing to do with this, your view of zionism is completely different. And you aren't grouping all the Israelis in the same box? Not only did Hamas attack Israel, but so did the Arab nations when it declared it's independence. Hamas are Palestinians, hell, they are their government now. So... what do you suggest Israel should do? Sit there while hamas launched rockets just because some Palestinians VOTED against Hamas? What do you think Israel should do? Huh?
StripesReaper 2 years ago
No, those are my words twisted by you. Palestine invaded first? Idiot, look at history. The next day Israel declared independence the Arab Nations started the war and INVADED Israel. British Mandate divided the region of Palestine into two states, Arab and Jewish state, what is so complicated about that? The Soviet Union and USA recgonized this division, but not Arabs.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
So please tell me then. Where was Palestine in 1938? Because according to your own warped view on history Palestine was never there if what you want me to believe is right! Trying to tell me that becasue the US and Russia and the UK said the country should be split into two areas the Palestinians allready living of that land for many many years should just accept it. Thats where Zionism fails.
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
Jewish lived in that land many many many years before the arabs. They lived there as Palestinians, just like the Arabs. So don't say that it wasn't fair, both sides struggled for independence and both sure as hell deserved their own country. The Qur'an has alot of contradictions, but there is such a thing as abrogation in Qur'an, meaning the older verses are replaced with "new" and "better" ones. Abrogating ALL of the peaceful ones that is.
StripesReaper 2 years ago
Further - Who gives a fuck about the Qur'an and "Abrogating" since the Bible does the same. In the Bible it is a sin to eat Pork. But because later on some different man had a vision of "all the animals" Pork then became clean to eat in the Bible. If you really want to know your enemy then know the Bible also since the Qur'an and the Bible whilst being different have common factors. But hey, your a Zionist and Zionist's can't have an open mind, can they?
Tzimnewman3 2 years ago
do unto others as you would have them do unto you
ae01r 3 years ago
Sderot is a Palestinian Town which Israel took from Palestinians.
What more do Jews expect when they take a town from one people and use it for themselves.
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago 3
I think that goes back to the Palestines. They want Israel right? including Jerusalem. In the Koran Jerusalem is mentioned 0 time, in the Tora it's mentioned over 400 times. If those who take or attempt to take land that is not theirs should be punished it's the palestinans that should suffer too. And even if you believe otherwise, blowing up buses and sending rockets to CIVILIAN homes is no way to reach your goals. It's the ways of brainwashed cowards. The Hamas are terrorists.
NoyChan 2 years ago
goosebumps!!!!!!!!!!
ylat1994 3 years ago
Excellent video, so powerful and sums it up so well.
mishtameshethadasha 3 years ago
This from Gerald Kaufman, Jewish member of UK parliament ...
"may I ask him what the international reaction would be if Hamas had slaughtered nearly 900 Israelis and subjected nearly 1.5 million Israelis to degradation and deprivation? Is it not an incontrovertible fact that Olmert, Livni and Barak are mass-murderers and war criminals? Yes. And they bring shame on the Jewish people whose Star of David they use as a flag in Gaza..."
laqlouq 3 years ago 2
What a cheap attempt at an Israeli Propaganda. Jews themselves, those good ones are ashamed of it. Zionists on the other hand are loosing the battle of rhetoric and are resorting to force. Unless you change the tactics you Zionist Idiots, you will invite another Holocaust and this one will be your last one. I would find it terrible as Jews are good people as most people in this world are. Zionists and those supporting TERROR STATE OF ISRAEL on the othe hand are parasites.
ldaanb 3 years ago 3
Arab 11 we really are trying to be the human beings in this war but its unpossible living this way when u are bombed all the time i mean we have to react and that's the only way we can, and unfortunetly that's power is the only thing this men understand and u know we are just protecting ourselves and for now USA is with us...
The world needs to understand our point of view also... we are no attacking for nothing...
dr91 3 years ago
ur talkin about impossible livin when u r bombed? ur such a hypocrite, why wud u do that to gaza then? y dnt u go and live with ur american friend IN america where a jewish population alredy lives and leave the original inhabitants alone in peace. this didnt start 20 days ago, this started 60 years ago when zionists stole land of palestinians and pushed the original inhabitants of sderot into gazan refugee camps
AbuUbaydah1 3 years ago
no your right man israel belongs to the jews...jst like america belongs to native americans u dumb cunt! and as jews i think you've gotten enough sympathy for the hard times you went through...but i cant believe a people like your who know what its like to live in genocide are doing the same to palestinians...thats disgusting? the way things are going ur destined 2 distruction..what do you think will happen when america stops supporting u? it will b ugly but u cant say u did bring it on urselves
Arab11 3 years ago 2
eurrrgh, zionist propaganda. stop being so ungrateful. at least you HAVE 15 second alarms. they dont have food :(
AbuUbaydah1 3 years ago