Obama compares physicians to flies and makes fun of WWJD

[oran6es]

Insurance companies have become too powerful. There are too few. They have no problem hosing the patient or the physician. One inefficient too powerful federal government that hoses everyone is not the answer. Giving power back to the patient by creating an environment that allows choices from a hundred or so insurers across state lines would be more effective. I would support a government funded catastrophic coverage for everyone that would make basic insurance rates even more affordable.

[bronx43]

@oran6es Insurance companies are powerful, but having more companies out there to compete won't reduce overall health care costs. The mere idea is ridiculous, as the main driver of high costs is that of the actual medical service, not the secondary market inhabited by insurance corporations. Like I said, fee for service as to go for there to be any semblance of a sustainable health care system.

[oran6es]

Solution 2: Drastic reduction of income taxes. Taxes add to costs of everything. Example: A medical professional "making" 300k taxed at 50% really takes home 150k The same medical professional can take home the same 150k if he "made" 200k taxed at 25%! That's an extra 100k out there and a reduction of health care "costs" by 33% (300k to 200k) !

[oran6es]

Today's democratic way: over-regulate physicians and surgeons but let the personal injury attorneys/trial lawyers run wild.

[bronx43]

@oran6es I agree that tort reform is needed, because it is nothing but a gaping inefficiency in the system that is only present due to political incumbency and some misguided sense of social justice. The only real way for American health care to become sustainable again is for the whole system to crash and rebuilt from the ground up with either an entirely free market or entirely government controlled system. The former is less likely than the latter.

[oran6es]

@bronx43 The solution to an abusive health insurance corporation(penalizing people for becoming ill) is not an overbearing inefficient government that penalizes everyone with rationing, rewarding mediocrity, etc. Let employers give employees the $ they are now giving for insurance tax free. People can purchase their own health insurance as they do car insurance AND create an environment that allows many more choices and many more insurance companies to choose from(across state lines).

[bronx43]

@oran6es Uh... what? How would these "solutions" solve anything related to inflated health care costs - the stem of which is caused by over-utilization and the lack of a free market for services? And your treatise on reduced taxation is laughable at best. You DO realize that the government would immediately go into insolvency should they drastic reduce taxes, forcing them to buy more treasuries, and eventually destroy the dollar.

[oran6es]

@bronx43 I disagree. Drastic reduction in taxes accompanied by an even more drastic reduction in spending would enable more capital in the private sector, more jobs, etc. Over-utilization? Examples?

[bronx43]

@oran6es As I said... no politician has the political capital to cut entitlement programs, so you can essentially count those as static members of the budget. And in a global market of free trade, reduced taxes are far less able to generate jobs, as proven by the past few years of stagnant job growth. And over-utilization? Are you fucking retarded? The excessive procedures and testing aren't obvious to you? There is endless data out there on per-capita health care usage.

[lolofdoom]

hahaha, this is why i love obama

[1eonberg]

Lame. The AMA does not represent the majority of physicians.

[oran6es]

Only 20% of practicing MDs are in the AMA.

I am not in the AMA.

Obama frightens me(especially his white 1/2). I'm white, by the way.

If I'm a fly looking for honey, politicians are the pile of crap I'll lay my maggots in and fly away.

That government which governs LEAST is that government which governs best.

[fanofjapanandmusic]

how can hishite half scare you....he is one person...just two races in 1

[oran6es]

@fanofjapanandmusic

Misuse of words. His ideas frighten me, and should frighten everyone. He's simply a narcissistic self-serving politician. His utter disrespect for medical professionals, especially surgeons, is mind-boggling. Stay tuned for the continued political back-lash.

I am happy that an African-american has ascended to the highest office in the land, for the sake of many of my fellow citizens. However, a much better choice would have been Condy Rice or Colin Powell.

[fanofjapanandmusic]

hey are you a surgeon? if so can you tell me what it is like to be a surgeon? like your work load, life outside of work, pay, family relations etc.

im asking this for i am an 11th grade perspective surgeon.

i have looked at many youtube vids on the subject and looked it up online. but i would like for someone who is actually a surgeon right now.

thank you in adv. :)

[bronx43]

@fanofjapanandmusic Trust me, kid. You don't know shit about surgery. You might think you want to do surgery, but if you actually get into medical school and experience the surgery lifestyle, you will likely change your mind. I can't even count how many of my old med school buddies who started off thinking they were going to be surgeons, but ended up hating every aspect of it. It's good that you are showing interest, but keep your mind open.

[fanofjapanandmusic]

@bronx43 yeah you dont have to come of so harsh. It was obvious that i didnt know anything about surgery ,thats why i was asking questions about it .

im a senior now (in H.S.) and ive done A LOT of research on it.I also talked to aot of people abiut it. read up on it.

found out...its not what i want to do anymore.

to much of your life to sacrafice , especialy if you want to pursue a relationship or have a fam.

The pay was nice..but

I've moved on lol

[bronx43]

@fanofjapanandmusic I didn't mean to sound harsh. I was simply trying to convey the shittiness that is surgery. The pay is nice, but it's nothing that you can't make from doing many other specialties in medicine. However, the most important thing is having a good business sense. That will help you get farther than any specific specialty. I've seen family practitioners make far more than surgeons, despite what the averages say. Best of luck, and always keep an open mind.

[fanofjapanandmusic]

@bronx43 thanks

good luck to you too

(something i never get to say unless im on youtube ,only because chances are i may never meet you)

have a great life :D

[bronx43]

@oran6es You don't know shit. You should probably shut the fuck up. If you want to get your ass handed to you in a political debate, PM me. 

[oran6es]

@bronx43 Such mean language on Christmas Eve.............Chill. In actuality Obama had his ass handed to him on a platter in the November elections. He's beginning to get a clue(e.g. the recent tax compromise). Tax and spend doesn't work. Merry Christmas.

[bronx43]

@oran6es Of course he got his ass handed to him in the November elections. That's expected. The truth of the matter is that this country is in a shithole that no Democrat or Republican can out of. Even if the next president is GOP, he won't get more than one term. The tax bill is economically murky, as it is likely unable to increase aggergate demand by much, and will certainly add to national debt. No politician has the nuggets to cut entitlement programs - SS and Medicare.

[tirpitz19]

@oran6es Your last statement,the one with the government ,is completely false.The truth is exactly the opposite.You want examples ?

Somalia and Sweden

I'l give you more if you ask..

[bronx43]

@oran6es Health care in this country is far too expensive. Obama is taking the more caustic route as far as conveying this message, but he's far from simply spewing vitriol. Every other nation in this world knows very well that health care, after a certain point, becomes a resource sink. The majority of health care dollars in this nation is spent on people who will never produce the amount that was spent on their health care. You aren't investing in capital goods, or generating exports.