for me the key to getting in vs a good turtle sim is lariats to hit limbs like you do with fireball chars and empty jumpins/normals to get into range of a 360.
I love playing Gief, but whenever I watch him in higher level play I get mad.
It's hard for him to get in. All he has is the quick lariat, the EX flats, and sometimes down mp to close the distance.
Against Sagat, who is an ass haha, it's hard to get past tiger shot spams. He recovers to fast from them. You quick lariat and he throws another at a different height and speed. You try to jump in and his standing hk can beat you or a tiger uppercut.
@iMPERiOUS Yup, and even IF Zangief manages to evade the fireballs and limbs well enough to get in close... Dhalsim will just teleport away before Zangief can do any real damage.
Pfft shoulda saw this comin...wayyyyy too easy to zone zangief out especially wen its Dhalsim we're talkin about lol...great game to both but damn thats an annoying matchup for big ass gief...isnt there a rule where u can sort of skip a certain matchup that doesnt benefit you and face sum1 else in these tourneys? im not sure..
I think Zangief could have used the ex green hand on a few occassions to get close and then grab. I always play as Dhalsim and my friend always plays as Zangief, so this was a great match to watch.
I agree with those thinking that zanguief is a hard character to use, espacially against good dalsim or seth.The matchup isnt balanced imho, although i m aware that dalsim is hard to master too, and has weak matchups too. I think zanguiefs have many 5-5 rankings because noob guiefs spam lariat against other noobs that never block or never punish them (just like ken dragons punchs at lower levels), but as u get to higher levels, there are fewer guiefs because those mistakes are heavily punished.
@Fegafatoi one of the major reasons u dont see him used alot at higher levels is fuckin sagat. Its such a burtal matchup for gief and stops alot of peopel from useing him. All sagat has to do is throw out round houses.
LOL, both you guys don't know what you're talking about. This matchup is 5-5, and the matchup hasn't changed in years. If Sim can keep Gief out Sim wins. If Gief gets in, Gief wins. What you don't realize is that Iyo is playing, and hands down he's the best SF4 player. It wasn't a fluke that he won the Japanese Nationals. Itazan was the best Gief back then, and still is amongst the top Giefs now. This match is as simple as Iyo outplaying Itazan, nothing more.
well done. I always have a hard time with good giefs. when they walk forward with strong / roundhouse / random lariats, it is frustrating. But Iyo proves , with deadly execution, timing, distance, it is a good match up.
That what i don't like in SF, there are certain matchups that are so biased and almost impossible to win if both players are of high skill. Ryu is one of the few characters to avoid this assuming you play him perfectly.
IMO its a sign of a bad game because you physically have to use a different character to win certain matchups, even if you are technically the better player, you need to be CONSIDERABLY better, and once you reach a certain standard, it becomes exponential/impossible to do it
It also forces people to counter pick, and its due to bad design because characters like Ryu have no real matchup disadvanatges.
You phyiscally won't beat Seth or a top SIm using Zangief, you might win one or two with some luck, but most of the time, you're fighting a losing battle.
Coming back to my point on matchups, how is it fair that a character like RYU can be used to beat everyone if mastered, yet no matter how good you get with gief and a few others, there will always be matchups that he will lose in the long run because of nothign more than inconsistent game design.
A good enough player should win no matter what, when the game starts dictating who can beat who based purely on matchup is when you end up playing flawed games.
Lol you troll dont tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, every pro player in the world knows a top sim will beat top gief. This is probably the best zangief in the world, this is how the matchup is.
It favours sim because gief always has to come to him, sim has so many keep outs and escapes. And knows once he has a lead the pressure is ALWAYS on zangief. Check the matchup rankings before you talk shit in public.
folks, once you've accumulated some real wisdom on this incredible game, you'll see that there's absolutely no such thing as cheap, especially for players of this skill level. Itabashi's Gief is a friggin' wrecking machine. Iyo played this match to absolute PERFECTION, demonstrating why he's certainly the world's best Dhalsim and as far as pure playing genius, my fav in the World.
Agreed, he played it smart by keeping Zangief away. He was fortunate to have hit that one piledriver. Any character with great reach can hold Zangief back with relative ease, he matched him up well.
lol at ppl sayin this game is not balanced and that iyo is cheap. iyo beat itabashi by playin his character better. dhalsim is meant to be played by controlling range. gief's range is short and is meant to be played close to the opponent utilizing powerful attacks and grabs. if gief got in a lot of grabs and won, there would be ppl sayin gief is cheap because of his high power and high HP. iyo played the better match, get over it
Lol so nice to see a gief get wasted like that and as for calling that cheap what was he supposed to do get in close to gief and let him spam throws left right and centre seeing as they beat pretty much every move and combo gief is the cheapest character there is.
How is it cheap at all, Iyo played his zoning game and kept Gief away in perhaps the best showing I've ever seen.
Maybe it's cheap because you like Gief and want TO SMASH PUNY YOGURT MAN but that's not how SF4 works. Sim plays the range game, and Iyo plays it damn near perfectly. Gief plays the in close game, and he didn't get a chance, and the time's he did get in close Iyo ate half health bar.
I can only assume you play Gief. I can't count all the times I've gotten messages such as "Fight like a man" from Giefs. What those scrubby idiots don't understand is that upclose, Dhalsim will be raped by Gief. Hence the keepaway game.
lol dhalsim is also my main and i get those messages from angry giefs players as well. Its really ridic as if me dhalsim the slowest character in the game is gona walk in to the strongest player in the game and expect to some out victorious. They did not give dhalsim long arms for no good reason,
I do the same to Zangief players in the PS network. The trick is not to panic. If Zangief gets close, do not attack too often (Spinning Lariat can be a REAL pain against Dhalsim's long range punches), and keep him out of Pile Driver's reach. Other than that, just watch out for his Banishing Flat, and drain his energy slowly but surely.
Yeah, that makes quite a lot of things to think about during a match, but that's Street Fighter...
i woulda thougt gief was heavily disadvantaged. its hard enuf for him to get close and when dhalsims main advantage is staying away, it doesnt look to good for gief. but thats just my opinion
It would be great to see the best of each character to fight against each other:Daigo/Fuudo(Ryu), Momochi/Tokido(Gouki), Uryo/FZ(Viper), Shiro(Abel), Mago/RF/OjisanBoy(Sagat), Akimo(Honda), Itabashi Zangief(Zangief), Fujisawa/Yoshiwo(Guile), Nemo/Nuki(ChunLi), Tetsu(Fuerte), Sutoraikun(Ken), Kindevu(Rufus),Maison(Boxer), Iyo(Dhalism), 靜岡最強(Blanka), Inoue(Dictator).
Zangief v Dhalsim is suppoed to be even, but not Iyo v Itabashi. Although it's amazing how Zangief is always referred to as overpowered, but I've not seen anyone Zangief really well. There's just not an awful lot you can do with him. Same goes for someone like Honda. Really powerful one or two hit combos, that's it. Must be why most pro players use balanced characters like Ryu.
is it really...ryu has projectiles and his hurricane can cover more ground than a ex green hand to get in close to dhalsim....but ryu has to get inclose to do damage and you don't want to be inclose with zangief
this game is so lame... 15 years later and gief still has no new tools to stop this bullshit. Honestly SF4 de-evolved the SF franchise. 3s was the best and will probably be the last good SF game. Parry for the win... not this keep away zoning bullshit 15 years and running. Zzzzzzzzzzz
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mind games? What mind games? this is a brainless zoning masher. same shit that worked 15 years ago still works today. where is the innovation? oh yeah why add innovation like a parry system to a brainless zoning masher. the game may be popular but capcom took a huge step backwards. they sacrifice innovation to satisfy the old whiny bastards who don't know how to parry... 3S is a way better game than this crap!
Try to play Dhalsim and NOT think at all. We all know what would happen then. 3S was flawed. You can tell by number of Chun li's at the final. Everyone was using Chun li and won with it.
it's so neat; gief can't do any damage unless he gets up close, and dhalsim's whole game is built around staying away and avoiding hits because his health is so low.
and for all u gief haters, i hope u know now that gief isn't fed his fighters with a silver spoon - some of his matches are uphill battles, if not impossible
even though i hate Zang with passion, i have to agree that this match should have been frustrating for Itabashi. Iyo really knowed how to anticipate all Itabashi moves...
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gief lost to a dal that pokes? any time a dal pokes gief just need to kkk/ppp smartly, easy, some noob might be offended but other gief players no that works. in this scenario, gief had no need to approach dal to cause damage
only high attacks eg sagat hk can poke sucsesfuly at gief if he dose not know wat to do. i also said ppp/kkk, go get some gangciclovir iv to help u read beter, i owned hundreds of dals that way regardless of who plays dal, his attacks canot change only his tactics if u play my gief like that ill make u find another way 2 play. i was right a noob will be offended
Hahaha a random "self-claimed pro" call Iyo and Itabashi noobs lol
If you are that great post some top videos against world-class players instead of making stupid comments on youtube lmao
I am sorry but I don't think you stand any chances against these players with only hundreds of games.. these players played at least several THOUSANDS of games against top players
Oh btw, you will still get poked if you spam ANY moves, regardless of ppp/kkk lmao
if u could read, u would know that im not calling iyo or itabashi noobs i know very well dem japan pros, u clearly dont understand wat im saying, actualy my friends from all over discussed gief vs dal topic and u the only one who preceived it that way, i mean if u did not no do like me and ask "wat r u talkin about" and as a mater of fact a gief player told me antisipating dals attack and avoid spamming is very efective
Your argument is nonsense. But at least you know your Grammar is terrible right? You said ppp/kkk can counter any pokes? No, you can't hit him except when you are lucky.
Did you even watch the video here? Gief did 5 kkk, and 4 out of 5 he got punched. 1 is just lucky I know you fail in speaking English but at least watch the video before you talk any shit
only ONE ex hand.... ita sometimes has brainfarts. no disrespect to iyo cuz geez that was a brick wall n a half with all that zoning. but ONE ex hand? how else do u expect to get close?
well, thats pro dhalsim vs gief for ya, its just completely lopsided in sim's favour, all you people saying itabashi is impatient blah blah blah he tried just about everything he could to try and get near dhalsim.
He didn't use EX hand! It's a five five match up for a reason and that's one of them. SF2 is broken despite the revolution it was. You get 1.5/8.5 match-ups on that game. This game has some really bad match-ups too but this isn't one of them.
Whenever I see Iyo play it always feels like there's this inevitability, you know? Like anything the other guy tries can and will be countered no matter what.
honestly though we didn't see one ex green hand. You have to start guessing against sim especially with the big guy. If he could have scored one or two knock downs this game might have ended differently.
love dhalsim..
Drcervantes3000 1 month ago
why Zangief not use Double Lariat or Banishing Flat to enter near Dhalsim?
MayHemZgte 5 months ago
lol, it's like: "take this,*slap* take that*slap*, and that*slap*"...
shin7speaty 6 months ago
It is possible to win with Gief against Dhalsim...even Iyo's. But Itabashi was far too impatient here...
Speedygi81 8 months ago
for me the key to getting in vs a good turtle sim is lariats to hit limbs like you do with fireball chars and empty jumpins/normals to get into range of a 360.
someguyhunter 8 months ago
Amazing Dhalsim player.
Galaga135 8 months ago
what a gay match up
Killcycle1989 9 months ago
@Killcycle1989 How so? Cause it's characters other than Ryu and Akuma?
Galaga135 8 months ago
@Galaga135 because Zangief does not have the tools to beat a well thought Sim
Killcycle1989 8 months ago
I love playing Gief, but whenever I watch him in higher level play I get mad.
It's hard for him to get in. All he has is the quick lariat, the EX flats, and sometimes down mp to close the distance.
Against Sagat, who is an ass haha, it's hard to get past tiger shot spams. He recovers to fast from them. You quick lariat and he throws another at a different height and speed. You try to jump in and his standing hk can beat you or a tiger uppercut.
Gotta love the SPD though.
FerretMochaLatte 11 months ago
gay
canephalanx 1 year ago
Yeah, Dhalsim hard to fight, and seems Itabashi don't have enough antiDhalsim tactics. But there is some technics that can help to fight back)
dikhday 1 year ago
that had to have been incredibly frustrating for zangief lol
SSShino 1 year ago
Dhalsim counters Zangief. Hard. This isn't impressive.
HomestarRunner20X6 1 year ago
@HomestarRunner20X6 agreed. don't know why people are gong like OMFG LOL DHALSIM OWNED THAT ZANGIEF.
any hi punch/kick from dhalsim pretty much nullifies zangief. and he has an anti-air move and a long range fireball... it's just lopsided
iMPERiOUS 1 year ago
@iMPERiOUS Yup, and even IF Zangief manages to evade the fireballs and limbs well enough to get in close... Dhalsim will just teleport away before Zangief can do any real damage.
HomestarRunner20X6 1 year ago
Zangief left the match on a full stomache, s he had some yoga feetz.
Genesis2099 1 year ago
dhalsim is the only character who has a better super than ultra lol
D1LatedPupils 1 year ago
@D1LatedPupils You're forgetting Seth.
Singe125 1 year ago
gief against Iyo? bad idea.
SonofSolom0n 1 year ago
The zangief players is pretty bad :/
sirguigui 1 year ago
@sirguigui
Itabashi is one of the better Zangief players in Japan you clueless fool.
He defeated daigo in one of the match vids here on YT:
watch?v=cjindSU_6h4
poster12345678 1 year ago
what people need to realize is that daigo isn't even that amazing, he loses a decent amount, just not really in america...
DoucheFagX 1 year ago
@sirguigui dhalsim has the advantage at the 3 person distance ... he did good keeping zangief there ... that zangief player is one the better gief's
Linknot100 1 year ago
@sirguigui I guess you don't even know what Street Fighter is -_-
FurkoTurko28 1 year ago
@sirguigui if you are dhalsim, you will probably get raped by itabashi. Iyo is one of the best dhalsim too.
abc8830 1 year ago
lol "probably" why would you even use that word, itabashi is a fucking amazing player, exchange probably for definitely
DoucheFagX 1 year ago
@DoucheFagX yep i know itabashui is very strong player. Well, but i don"t know what's that guy skill.
abc8830 1 year ago
@sirguigui
If Iyo can make Itabashi look bad, I wonder what he'll do to you. Hmm...
Leonmyster 1 year ago
Mad skillz
hollowedhope 1 year ago
Pfft shoulda saw this comin...wayyyyy too easy to zone zangief out especially wen its Dhalsim we're talkin about lol...great game to both but damn thats an annoying matchup for big ass gief...isnt there a rule where u can sort of skip a certain matchup that doesnt benefit you and face sum1 else in these tourneys? im not sure..
Flintc08 1 year ago
hahahaha! there's no way to win!
denguekid 1 year ago
Iyo is like Dhal's steroids...
NarutoDetective 1 year ago
This Zangief beat Daig too
simplelife88393 1 year ago
SIM IS ANNOYING
ISniffDirtyPanties 1 year ago 3
zang is too slow thats annoying
mrgingles 1 year ago
wow
YogaFlame24 1 year ago
Ultimate zoning !!
baderhhh 1 year ago 8
Dhalsim is such a nightmare for Zangief. At least a good Dhalsim like Iyo.
TheMLGGOAT 1 year ago
I think Zangief could have used the ex green hand on a few occassions to get close and then grab. I always play as Dhalsim and my friend always plays as Zangief, so this was a great match to watch.
itsgt216 1 year ago
now THAT is how you own a zangief.
AbflugSupra 1 year ago
man its hard to get close to a d player
DCKar2nist 1 year ago
I agree with those thinking that zanguief is a hard character to use, espacially against good dalsim or seth.The matchup isnt balanced imho, although i m aware that dalsim is hard to master too, and has weak matchups too. I think zanguiefs have many 5-5 rankings because noob guiefs spam lariat against other noobs that never block or never punish them (just like ken dragons punchs at lower levels), but as u get to higher levels, there are fewer guiefs because those mistakes are heavily punished.
Fegafatoi 1 year ago 3
@Fegafatoi one of the major reasons u dont see him used alot at higher levels is fuckin sagat. Its such a burtal matchup for gief and stops alot of peopel from useing him. All sagat has to do is throw out round houses.
thejunkmanlives 1 year ago
It just isn't fair to be Zangief.
Toomnyusernae 1 year ago
itabashi is very good but it is how he handle this mtch up that cause him to fall this time
kareemtitojamar 1 year ago
Itabashi is an amazing Gief but he seems to love his normals just a little too much.
Toya3816 1 year ago
LOL, both you guys don't know what you're talking about. This matchup is 5-5, and the matchup hasn't changed in years. If Sim can keep Gief out Sim wins. If Gief gets in, Gief wins. What you don't realize is that Iyo is playing, and hands down he's the best SF4 player. It wasn't a fluke that he won the Japanese Nationals. Itazan was the best Gief back then, and still is amongst the top Giefs now. This match is as simple as Iyo outplaying Itazan, nothing more.
dkn29 1 year ago
well done. I always have a hard time with good giefs. when they walk forward with strong / roundhouse / random lariats, it is frustrating. But Iyo proves , with deadly execution, timing, distance, it is a good match up.
viperRX 2 years ago 3
That what i don't like in SF, there are certain matchups that are so biased and almost impossible to win if both players are of high skill. Ryu is one of the few characters to avoid this assuming you play him perfectly.
IMO its a sign of a bad game because you physically have to use a different character to win certain matchups, even if you are technically the better player, you need to be CONSIDERABLY better, and once you reach a certain standard, it becomes exponential/impossible to do it
Jamerio3D 2 years ago
@Jamerio3D
It also forces people to counter pick, and its due to bad design because characters like Ryu have no real matchup disadvanatges.
You phyiscally won't beat Seth or a top SIm using Zangief, you might win one or two with some luck, but most of the time, you're fighting a losing battle.
Let's hope Capcom improve in Super.
Jamerio3D 2 years ago
@Jamerio3D do you know how good you have to be with dahlsim to beat zangief like that? any moron can pick zangief.
360cbh 2 years ago
Coming back to my point on matchups, how is it fair that a character like RYU can be used to beat everyone if mastered, yet no matter how good you get with gief and a few others, there will always be matchups that he will lose in the long run because of nothign more than inconsistent game design.
A good enough player should win no matter what, when the game starts dictating who can beat who based purely on matchup is when you end up playing flawed games.
Super Turbo was the best version.
Jamerio3D 2 years ago
It also forces people to use the old favourites when capcom should be offering more incentives to use some of the newer, less played characters.
if I come across another RYU/KEN/SAGAT/AKUMA I might die of boredom.
Jamerio3D 2 years ago
yes they bore me big time
kupidzheart 2 years ago
@Jamerio3D
You dont know what youre talking about, this matchup is easier for gief. Its just that he didnt play well, NO EX GREEN HAND
mviejo1 2 years ago
@mviejo1
Lol you troll dont tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, every pro player in the world knows a top sim will beat top gief. This is probably the best zangief in the world, this is how the matchup is.
It favours sim because gief always has to come to him, sim has so many keep outs and escapes. And knows once he has a lead the pressure is ALWAYS on zangief. Check the matchup rankings before you talk shit in public.
Jamerio3D 2 years ago
@Jamerio3D to add to that he's playing against arguably the best sim in the world, he is japans national champ after all
ACTUALLYrussell 1 year ago
True, but Itabashi has beaten Daigo with that Zangief, this was probably the best gief in the world at this time. Look how badly he got owned.
That's got nothing to do with a bad day, its simply due to the matchup favouring Sim from the word go.
It gets even worse when gief has to play Seth.
A well designed game should allow the best player to win regardless of character.
I'm saying SF4 has match ups which are physically impossible to win longterm, while characters like Ryu do not. Biased.
Jamerio3D 1 year ago
@Jamerio3D
its 5-5.
Yeeeaaaaaaaaaaa
GlobalChest 1 year ago
Yea maybe to us online scrubs but it wouldn't work that well against the top dhalsim.
plantpanther 1 year ago
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mintendac 2 years ago
the vs played out perfectly... As a Gief player, it's tough to watch, I feel the frustration!
biglebonski 2 years ago
will his new ultra make a difference 0_o
???
lordyrich 2 years ago
Damn, Iyo is crazy, def. the best SF4 Dhalsim I've seen so far.
TehZergRush 2 years ago 7
dhalsim will pwnd gief in real life
touyang06 2 years ago
normals
komujimaru 2 years ago
iyo is my fav player ever but why does he never escape corner with jump followed by down and weak kick.
for max traveling spiral kick.
very easy to keep away from geif with that once cornerd.
topbluffa1 2 years ago 2
Gief can probably follow it with EX palm, and maybe a throw if that whiffs.
moonlitearthx14 2 years ago
that doesn't work. Even if you do it at the top of the arc, he can just walk back slightly and lariat
Lollaffers 2 years ago
Im just impressed that itabashi was even able to get off an spd, bad matchup anyways
theboxer50 2 years ago
this Dhalsim is awesome
Dahyt 2 years ago 8
even after years of street fighter, I still think dhalsim is annoying as fuck.
mchief117 2 years ago
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Most boring 'Sim I've seen.
...And that's saying something! -_-
Sablicious 2 years ago
Yes... The best Dhalsim in the world is the most boring...
retnuHDJ 2 years ago 7
he made zangief look like it was his first streetfighter match lolz
KellysterOverdrive 2 years ago 21
@KellysterOverdrive well this has always been a bad match up for gief
darknessredefine 1 year ago
Needs more EX green hand.
bungle0 2 years ago 8
i totally agree - not nearly enough of that in this match - and it surely would have been a quality equalizer against 'sims low health
rmirabelle 2 years ago 2
Lol Zangief got no chances vs Dalshim... its so simple
mogebycproblemem 2 years ago 2
folks, once you've accumulated some real wisdom on this incredible game, you'll see that there's absolutely no such thing as cheap, especially for players of this skill level. Itabashi's Gief is a friggin' wrecking machine. Iyo played this match to absolute PERFECTION, demonstrating why he's certainly the world's best Dhalsim and as far as pure playing genius, my fav in the World.
rmirabelle 2 years ago 9
Everyone raving "The game is balanced, Iyo is just better" are douches.
This match is extremely hard for Gief to win.
DsGovier 2 years ago
Agreed, he played it smart by keeping Zangief away. He was fortunate to have hit that one piledriver. Any character with great reach can hold Zangief back with relative ease, he matched him up well.
Animehound1 2 years ago 2
lol at ppl sayin this game is not balanced and that iyo is cheap. iyo beat itabashi by playin his character better. dhalsim is meant to be played by controlling range. gief's range is short and is meant to be played close to the opponent utilizing powerful attacks and grabs. if gief got in a lot of grabs and won, there would be ppl sayin gief is cheap because of his high power and high HP. iyo played the better match, get over it
ShiNoTenchi17 2 years ago 7
did iyo quit sf4?
coolguy681 2 years ago
yes for his work
Panicvisual 2 years ago
I think so
meu02136 2 years ago
Lol so nice to see a gief get wasted like that and as for calling that cheap what was he supposed to do get in close to gief and let him spam throws left right and centre seeing as they beat pretty much every move and combo gief is the cheapest character there is.
Yorkshireduby 2 years ago
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That is so damn cheap!
What the hell was he supposed to do?
Killcycle1989 2 years ago
Die like the overpowered fucker he is.
egg64 2 years ago
Have you ever tried using Dhalsim? It's really hard to play like this guy is, he's just really really good, he isnt being cheap.
ohnoesmrnose 2 years ago 3
So what your basically saying is that it's ok to be cheap as longs as it's difficult?
It's messed up, the game is broken in terms of character balance. They weren't designed to fight eachother.
Killcycle1989 2 years ago
How is it cheap at all, Iyo played his zoning game and kept Gief away in perhaps the best showing I've ever seen.
Maybe it's cheap because you like Gief and want TO SMASH PUNY YOGURT MAN but that's not how SF4 works. Sim plays the range game, and Iyo plays it damn near perfectly. Gief plays the in close game, and he didn't get a chance, and the time's he did get in close Iyo ate half health bar.
tl;dr: Iyo pwns, gief got slaughtered, theres nothing cheap about winning.
JammyBoo32 2 years ago 2
I can only assume you play Gief. I can't count all the times I've gotten messages such as "Fight like a man" from Giefs. What those scrubby idiots don't understand is that upclose, Dhalsim will be raped by Gief. Hence the keepaway game.
Lollaffers 2 years ago 9
lol dhalsim is also my main and i get those messages from angry giefs players as well. Its really ridic as if me dhalsim the slowest character in the game is gona walk in to the strongest player in the game and expect to some out victorious. They did not give dhalsim long arms for no good reason,
nivlekio 2 years ago 2
I do the same to Zangief players in the PS network. The trick is not to panic. If Zangief gets close, do not attack too often (Spinning Lariat can be a REAL pain against Dhalsim's long range punches), and keep him out of Pile Driver's reach. Other than that, just watch out for his Banishing Flat, and drain his energy slowly but surely.
Yeah, that makes quite a lot of things to think about during a match, but that's Street Fighter...
E1N9A8N0DA 2 years ago
Thats why Iyo ist THE BEST Dhalsim-Player on earth !
DaisukeXYX 2 years ago 28
@DaisukeXYX But he does not do anything against gief apart from what everyone else does... fire, poke, jump poke, fire, poke, jump poke!
Veprogg 1 year ago
i woulda thougt gief was heavily disadvantaged. its hard enuf for him to get close and when dhalsims main advantage is staying away, it doesnt look to good for gief. but thats just my opinion
1waza1 2 years ago
Can't he do anything to Dhalsim's arms? I seem to remember being able to falling sky a jumping Dhalsim's fierce punch...
Sephlock 2 years ago
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haha... FUCK gief.
hiPlasma 2 years ago
That was rape...
LoveMusicRum 2 years ago 3
Got to love Iyo.
keroberus2 2 years ago
hhaaha true that!
mikeomak 2 years ago
It would be great to see the best of each character to fight against each other:Daigo/Fuudo(Ryu), Momochi/Tokido(Gouki), Uryo/FZ(Viper), Shiro(Abel), Mago/RF/OjisanBoy(Sagat), Akimo(Honda), Itabashi Zangief(Zangief), Fujisawa/Yoshiwo(Guile), Nemo/Nuki(ChunLi), Tetsu(Fuerte), Sutoraikun(Ken), Kindevu(Rufus),Maison(Boxer), Iyo(Dhalism), 靜岡最強(Blanka), Inoue(Dictator).
TwiBlueG35 2 years ago
there is type in gods garden....in the search and there was a tournament held and these ppl actually fight each other it's pretty cool
koopa1981 2 years ago
bad matchup for zangief not to take away the fact that iyo is god
kong0lol 2 years ago 4
I was under the impression that match-up was roughly even, if not slightly in Zangief's favour.
retnuHDJ 2 years ago
Zangief v Dhalsim is suppoed to be even, but not Iyo v Itabashi. Although it's amazing how Zangief is always referred to as overpowered, but I've not seen anyone Zangief really well. There's just not an awful lot you can do with him. Same goes for someone like Honda. Really powerful one or two hit combos, that's it. Must be why most pro players use balanced characters like Ryu.
meu02136 2 years ago
Ah right. I guess I was wrong about the Zangief vs Dhalsim match up!
Also, check out Akimo. His Honda is amazing. Beat Daigo once (in a very bad quality video, and casual match too, but that's not the point XD ).
retnuHDJ 2 years ago
thats why ryu is an overplayed character too and thats fucking sad
TheHXCtaLIFE 2 years ago
Its awesome seeing my 2 favourite pros go at it. Interesting when you think about It. Daigo beat Iyo, Iyo beat Itabashi, but Itabashi beat Daigo.
wisemage0 2 years ago
o.O
kong0lol 2 years ago
All that proves is that youtube does not have all the matches on video.
monkeypower 2 years ago
is it really...ryu has projectiles and his hurricane can cover more ground than a ex green hand to get in close to dhalsim....but ryu has to get inclose to do damage and you don't want to be inclose with zangief
koopa1981 2 years ago
i dont think its a bad matchup for gief.. i think he just needs to familiarise it a bit more!
Gief has el fuerte and sagat as the worse match ups in my opinion.
chisinjong 2 years ago
Enorme, Iyo est vraiment un Dieu avec son Dhalsim, je ne me lasse pas de le voir jouer.
Quel stratege, c'est impressionnant.
SeigneurTurel 2 years ago
ouais c'est trop nice voir un bon Dhalsim jouer
TheHXCtaLIFE 2 years ago
i'm just wondering why the gief didn't choose to use his ex glove when the sim player was abusing back medium kick...maybe i'm missing something...
ccm0ri 2 years ago
Wow...i've never seen Gief owned like this. Even when Daigo is playing Itabashi, the matches will be close but this was just no contest...
azarel7 2 years ago
this game is so lame... 15 years later and gief still has no new tools to stop this bullshit. Honestly SF4 de-evolved the SF franchise. 3s was the best and will probably be the last good SF game. Parry for the win... not this keep away zoning bullshit 15 years and running. Zzzzzzzzzzz
Konjousan 2 years ago
whats a better game then?
FallenPatriotic 2 years ago 3
yea I guess the mindgames just got to you. Don't blame yourself. Blame your parents for creating a dumb kid like you.
monkeypower 2 years ago
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mind games? What mind games? this is a brainless zoning masher. same shit that worked 15 years ago still works today. where is the innovation? oh yeah why add innovation like a parry system to a brainless zoning masher. the game may be popular but capcom took a huge step backwards. they sacrifice innovation to satisfy the old whiny bastards who don't know how to parry... 3S is a way better game than this crap!
Konjousan 2 years ago
Try to play Dhalsim and NOT think at all. We all know what would happen then. 3S was flawed. You can tell by number of Chun li's at the final. Everyone was using Chun li and won with it.
monkeypower 2 years ago 2
and don't forget rinse and repeat geneijin combos.
RiceLUMFAO 2 years ago
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chisinjong 2 years ago
i saw 0 combos in this fight... ;( plane strategy
goliatxlt 2 years ago 3
well sim doesn't have much in the combo department, and the zangief couldn't get in on him. so.....
FallenPatriotic 2 years ago
There were a few 2 hit combos, I'm just being nit-picky but they count as combos. :)
moodyydoom 2 years ago
it's so neat; gief can't do any damage unless he gets up close, and dhalsim's whole game is built around staying away and avoiding hits because his health is so low.
kwincunx 2 years ago 3
and for all u gief haters, i hope u know now that gief isn't fed his fighters with a silver spoon - some of his matches are uphill battles, if not impossible
Cajunx2001 2 years ago
Exactly, people fail to realise that getting in with Gief is a real challenge and that he can have real trouble with certain characters.
That is why he has such high defense, people seem to over exaggerate his damage just because they look base it on what they can dish out on him.
People that use Zangief deserve respect, anyone who hates on him is a scrub...
Gelgo0g 2 years ago 4
Zangief vs. Seth is almost impossible. Zangief vs Dhalsim is just behind.
strafer 2 years ago 2
even though i hate Zang with passion, i have to agree that this match should have been frustrating for Itabashi. Iyo really knowed how to anticipate all Itabashi moves...
BassChamber 2 years ago
lyo is one of the best player in the world..if anyone dosnt know that ...
hmongyai 2 years ago
Wow great match. Iyo did a good job keeping the distance. As long as he's far away Zangief can't do a thing :D
eventzz 2 years ago
oh so SBO = Super Battle Opera
WuvableKel 2 years ago
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gief lost to a dal that pokes? any time a dal pokes gief just need to kkk/ppp smartly, easy, some noob might be offended but other gief players no that works. in this scenario, gief had no need to approach dal to cause damage
mental101bim 2 years ago
everytime you ppp he will punch your lower part you moron lol
gl600fb 2 years ago 3
only high attacks eg sagat hk can poke sucsesfuly at gief if he dose not know wat to do. i also said ppp/kkk, go get some gangciclovir iv to help u read beter, i owned hundreds of dals that way regardless of who plays dal, his attacks canot change only his tactics if u play my gief like that ill make u find another way 2 play. i was right a noob will be offended
mental101bim 2 years ago
Hahaha a random "self-claimed pro" call Iyo and Itabashi noobs lol
If you are that great post some top videos against world-class players instead of making stupid comments on youtube lmao
I am sorry but I don't think you stand any chances against these players with only hundreds of games.. these players played at least several THOUSANDS of games against top players
Oh btw, you will still get poked if you spam ANY moves, regardless of ppp/kkk lmao
gl600fb 2 years ago 3
if u could read, u would know that im not calling iyo or itabashi noobs i know very well dem japan pros, u clearly dont understand wat im saying, actualy my friends from all over discussed gief vs dal topic and u the only one who preceived it that way, i mean if u did not no do like me and ask "wat r u talkin about" and as a mater of fact a gief player told me antisipating dals attack and avoid spamming is very efective
mental101bim 2 years ago
Your argument is nonsense. But at least you know your Grammar is terrible right? You said ppp/kkk can counter any pokes? No, you can't hit him except when you are lucky.
Did you even watch the video here? Gief did 5 kkk, and 4 out of 5 he got punched. 1 is just lucky I know you fail in speaking English but at least watch the video before you talk any shit
gl600fb 2 years ago 2
it's a rule and out of respect not to spam kkk/ppp or green hand in pro level matches. That's how you win fom Sims.
ryanmeursing 2 years ago
bullshit
GrevRev 2 years ago
aaaaaannnnd thats y u get thumbs down.
PapaLeGrand 2 years ago
yea u no how it is
mental101bim 2 years ago
your comment made me loled
richatalife 2 years ago
Because EX hand is a free throw into the corner and a reset across the screen for Dhalsim.
uberific 2 years ago
only ONE ex hand.... ita sometimes has brainfarts. no disrespect to iyo cuz geez that was a brick wall n a half with all that zoning. but ONE ex hand? how else do u expect to get close?
pooneega 2 years ago
seeing good sim players is just awesome
he is such an overlooked character
SHADALOO3000 2 years ago
Iyo is a BEAST at sim.
ocping 2 years ago 3
Only Iyo could zone Itabashi like that. Both of them are beastly.
Bigslick904 2 years ago
well, thats pro dhalsim vs gief for ya, its just completely lopsided in sim's favour, all you people saying itabashi is impatient blah blah blah he tried just about everything he could to try and get near dhalsim.
CowHoofOnAHotPlate 2 years ago
your an idiot
thisissfuckingstupid 2 years ago
you're*
I normally don't do that but if you're going to call someone stupid, heh, well...
xjohnwebsterx 2 years ago
He didn't use EX hand! It's a five five match up for a reason and that's one of them. SF2 is broken despite the revolution it was. You get 1.5/8.5 match-ups on that game. This game has some really bad match-ups too but this isn't one of them.
femstah 2 years ago 4
Denied at every attempt to get close...
SmartFist 2 years ago 4
frustrating for the zangief player to almost can't get close to dhalsim
Dpacpro 2 years ago 2
Iyo is freggin boss
mrbamp1re 2 years ago 2
iyo's untouchable
averagefilipino 2 years ago 4
1:21 Your telling me kick lariat beats out sims standing lk????? He's kicking him in the toes for christ sakes.
Seaoftea 2 years ago
Whenever I see Iyo play it always feels like there's this inevitability, you know? Like anything the other guy tries can and will be countered no matter what.
GargantuanBreadfruit 2 years ago
honestly though we didn't see one ex green hand. You have to start guessing against sim especially with the big guy. If he could have scored one or two knock downs this game might have ended differently.
Seaoftea 2 years ago
Thank you! I noticed that too. Many people don't realize how useful EX hand is.
akuma6910 2 years ago
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man my gief is better then that shit
Omegax9000 2 years ago
in your dream!
gl600fb 2 years ago
poor gief :(
mincereth 2 years ago 5
wow, gief couldnt do shit
conroexlexx 2 years ago 2
Itabashi doesn't play against Dhalsim enough......
MyNameISBenOrme 2 years ago 4