Uh, Ron Paul supporter. You said in earlier in your video that Paul supporters say it doesn't matter that Ron Paul disagrees with them on a few things, then you said that Ron Paul supporters can't seem to come up with shit that they disagree with. If this contradiction isn't enough, I'd point out that I disagree with his stance on abortion and evolution and illegal immigration. Though, I'd prefer a candidate I disagreed with who didn't enforce his opinions over the opposite. Have a lovely day.
So how do u like the system today? The fed prints money out of thin air, thats called fraud. He wants states to take over education so u and i have a say thorough our votes. The dollar is a IOU note its not real its worth nothing. Rights are given through ur creator not government! This is not the most powerful nation on earth!! We are broke!!
Where do you think the value of Gold, silver or any other resource comes from?
Do you think there's an inherent value to these things, but cash value is something different?
Gold, Silver, Dog shit, or high-hopes, only have as much value in them as WE apply to them.
If you think Ron Paul's economic ideas are any better, than you must not have studied the history of the Gold standard from 1776-1973 in American history
@skinnywhop87 THE DOLLAR IS BACKED BY NOTHING!! Thats the point! It was backed BY GOLD!! NOW IT JUST PRINTED with no backing!! You are being stolen from and dont even know it! The value is what we give it and the dollar is losing its value because it never had any to begin with! It has had no backing for a long time because our gold to back it is GONE! I like gary johnson by the way
@goldsmithstudent lol and during a gold standard, the value of gold is backed by nothing other than the value WE PUT INTO IT....
If you're willing to trade me 5 apples for one ounce of dog shit, then that's the value of the dog shit. Same with gold, same with fiat currency, same with ANY currency
This argument you Paulites use is really dumb and really retarded, especially when you turn it back on the currency policy you endorse, which has a much worse track record than fiat currencies
@skinnywhop87 Gold has many, many applications. It is used in the production of technology. It will always have value because of it's physical properties. You are worth 3 dog shits by the way, and that is on a good day. So apply value to your money and your dog shit and see how much of a logical point you made. People like you are the reason why the US no longer protects our liberty. You do realize that Gary Johnson is in the same party and has essentially identical ideas as Paul?!
ALL I CAN SAY FOR NOW IS YOUR NOT STUPID AND I AM NOT ANGRY PER SE WITH YOU BUT I DO HOPE THE LIGHT OF UNDERSTANDING WILL SHINE EVEN BRIGHTER IN YOUR AWARENESS. MAY PEACE BE WITH YOU, SINCERELY " LET THERE BE LIGHT.
WHO WAS MADE UPSET? LET ME SEE, ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO IS " IN THE KNOW " CAN TELL YOUR 5 REASONS IS WEEK MEDIA GENERATED RONPAUL GANDA, THE REAL FACTS ARE THIS: RON PAUL IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO CAN AND WILL WIN THE WHITEHOUSE IN 2012. RON PAUL IS A LION AND ALL WHO LOVE LIBERTY, FREEDOM, AND INTEGRITY ARE WELCOME TO JOIN UP. AS FOR YOU : YOU ARE NOT A WORTHWHILE OR FORMIDABLE ADVERSARY ( I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO) △
@MRDNA328 lol I would still strongly think it's the one who types in caps-lock to let us all know they're REALLY ANGRY. ROTFLMAO
lol Ron Paul "can and will win the Whitehouse", yet he CAN'T even win a single GOP primary vote.
lol and Ron Paul doesn't love liberty, freedom or integrity. The man calls himself a "constitutionalist" while denying the separation of Church and state which is apart of the FIRST amendment to the CONSTITUTION. ROTFLMAO
@MRDNA328 lol ROTFLMAO, I show my face plenty of times on my channel if you had the brain span exceeding a blade of grass, you might have been able to find that out yourself
Also you say my facts are wrong, yet you CAN'T retort anything. You just type really big so we know you've been made upset
Go scrape the sand out of your vagina, and come back when you're ready to talk like an adult
P.S. Ron Paul is a fossil, the only thing he should be doing in Florida now, is.... RETIRING
The Gold standard has worked all over the world for 6000 years, and 80% of the gold in the world has been mined and above ground. So we should stick to the Fed printing money, you make no sense and don't back it with anything of real substance keep taking the meths.
@mulefa Last I checked, almost every single currency based culture of the last 6.000 (including the US), has legalized and normalized slavery to help their economies :)
@skinnywhop87 You misunderstand, I never said that the Department of Education of unconstitutional, I was merely stating that from your comments, it seems that you have very little respect for the Constitution. And I don't think you realize that the Department of Education not only diminishes education by limiting what teachers can teach in public schools, but also raises tuition.
And what is this about Ron Paul not believing in the separation of Church and State? Huh?
@Sargeras66 The department of education, is at least held responsible through our representatives that we personally select. If we don't like the quality of it, we can choose representatives that will reform it as we see fit. If you compare that to charter schooling (current affordable private schooling), the standards of education are much lower, and they're only accountable to a private select group of people, like any other corporation)
@Sargeras66 and just youtube: Ron Paul Separation of Church and state.
You will hear him blatantly say he doesn't believe that's constitutional or apart of the first amendment. Even though everyone with a brain since Thomas Jefferson, John Madison and John Adams has known this
@skinnywhop87 About that church and state video, he is clearly referring to "congress shall not write any law respecting an establishment of religion, IMPEDING the free exercise of religion", he is referring to the latter. It's why he said, "congress cannot prohibit the expression of your christian faith in a public place". This simply means that he believes prayer and such in schools should not be prohibited by the FEDERAL government nor should it be made compulsory to engage in.
@Sargeras66 No, Ron Paul has blatantly said schools should re-institute bible classes. Ron Paul believes it's ok with the church interfering in Governmental programs like education. He just doesn't believe the government has a right to stop it from being in the FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS schools. Which is not what the separation of church and state are
Also, prayer nor reading the bible are prohibited in schools. The teachers are just prohibited from teaching about it with FEDERAL money
@skinnywhop87 I just think you're under the impression that under a Paul administration, religion would somehow be inserted into schools, jobs, and etc, but all this guy talks about is individual liberty and freedom to make your own choices whether it be religious, economic (hence no income tax), personal (hence his eagerness to decriminalize drugs), and intellectual freedom.
And about the Department of Education, it's debatable whether or not a reformed one will ever work or if
i dont support ron paul because of talking points talking points troll troll stupid stupid wow you need to actually look up facts buddeh. ron paul 2012!
@ekim100020 lol Read this example Paulites, this is why everyone talks shit about you., You're clearly ignorant, yet you tell everyone else to look up facts. When you can't refute any.
Then you call people trolls, while trolling... Geez Paulites, if you were anymore ironic, you would belong in a Roger Rabbit cartoon
@skinnywhop87 the reason i said what i said was because you opened up you vid trollin dr paul and im tired of you so called paul haters just repeating msm talking points. when i got to the part of your vid that said paul wants wants to get rid of ss you took it way out of contextso let me refute he wants to phase out ss because he dosent want the people already on it suffer for the govt. mistakes. like i said facts
@ekim100020 Do you know what a troll is? I stated my points, and they're points I truly believe in. If you actually listened to my video you would've known who I actually do endorse. So if you want to talk about a "MSM" conspiracy, why are you on the side of Ron Paul (who's received as much air-time as Romeny, Gingrich, Perry or Bachman)
Yet my candidate (Gary Johnson) has received next to nothing
Actually watch a video before you freak out, just because someone doesn't agree with your messiah
@skinnywhop87 look i have no problem with johnson he would be a great vp but this isnt about him its about the arguments that you made and all im saying is that your arguments paralled with msm which sound to me like talking points but whatever bro this is bigger than you and i this is about liberty so either way paul or johnson RESTORE THE REPUBLIC do you agree?
time is now but Johnsons time to shine will come in the near future assuming he makes the right moves now and doesn't upset a large amount of Paul supporters whom he could easily inherit.
@Petey882573 Gary Johnson has more executive experience than Ron Paul. I think it's Paul who needs to get executive experience before any of his supporters try to say he's more qualified than Johnson
Johnson has experience governing large groups of people, Paul only has experience NOT voting in the senate and congress
the torch when Paul is no longer able to run with it, as his age is a factor. I think it would be in Johnson's best long term interest to support Ron Paul, be his closest ally and even balance him a little, all the while inheriting Ron Paul supporters who would likely shift their support for when Paul leaves politics. That's just my opinion and it was refreshing to hear actual rational criticisms on Paul for a change, opposed to hearing blatant support or pathetic name calling. I think Pauls
@Petey882573 That time is already now. Gary Johnson has the nomination of his party, Ron Paul doesn't (and most likely won't)
Also, let's say you agree with Paul and Johnson for similar reasons. Than you should be happy that both of their ideas are getting a platform at the same time.
As a Canadian Ron Paul supporter, I actually agree with many of your points. I think the two however can compliment one another. I feel that Ron Paul can go a bit too far in his small government stance, as I do think that Government has a small role to play as a regulator to counter corporatism. This is where Johnson can help Paul. As of now, I feel that Ron Paul has massive support and fame compared to Johnson. If the two were to unite, it would bring more attention to Johnson who would carry
This guy if f^^king retarded, this is an example of our failed educational system. Ron Paul is by far the most consistent in his policy. Ron Paul 2012
@marcsimmons08 lol can you cite anything that makes me "retarded", or are you just sore in the ass because I don't support your messiah? all i see is Ron paul supporters calling me stupid, yet not a single one of you on this comment section has refuted even a single point.
Perhaps those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones? ;)
I'd like you to call me an idiot to my face so we can see who the real dummy is.... no wonder your hiding your face...and with that slow a** speech you sound a little slow like maybe you rode the little bus to school... gary Johnson is nothing more than a ploy to take away votes from Ron Paul..... Johnson sucked in New Mexico... New Mexico still sucks in every area important to the people jobs.etc, plus he can't even keep his own border secure F**k Johnson punk
@maokly1 So? What does being a jew have anything to do with anything? Last I checked, all that being a Jew means, is I'm among the most successful ethnic group in America. That's somehow supposed to be a put down?
@skinnywhop87 So let me get this straight, you believe that we SHOULD have the Department of Education, disregard the Constitution, and that somehow giving states back their power, which has been trampled on for decades, will somehow turn us into Africa?
As for 1), please take a look at this watch?v=q3SOlXxUBLk
@Sargeras66 I believe in reforming the department of education. It's not unconstitutional, it's a cabinet of the US government that was in-acted by all branches of the government originally as a branch of the department of interior.
This talking point comes from Ron Paul, a man who doesn't even believe in the separation of Church and State, which is apart of the FIRST amendment. If you want to talk about constitutionality, I think you should educate Ron Paul on it first
3) Notice he says "he's queer as CRAZY". Keyword. Also the president does NOT appoint Supreme Court justices, he nominates them and the majority of the senate has to vote on it.
4) Believe me, many states will probably legalize marijuana and some states will not. If you care that much about drugs, just move to a state that does have legalization. I hope you understand that he is for legalization of drugs, but he wouldn't force states to do that because it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and would VIOLATE
2) overseas, and use it to fulfill the promises that Social Security has already made to people. Then he will give the option for the next generation to OPT out of it.
3) A bigot? Ok I stopped right there. You're referring to Eric Dondero who has already been fired for his untrue and bigotry remarks. And as for his usage of "queer" in Bruno, you have to remember that Ron Paul is from a different generation. The word 'queer' back then meant "weird" and not anything offensive like it is today.
2) That's exactly why he wants to cut them BECAUSE they are inefficient and are a financial blackhole. You said it yourself, Dept of Edu has NOT helped education. And he DOES NOT want to cut Social Security or Medicare, please do your research next time. He has explicitly said that he will not cut a dime out of Social Security and Medicare. He believes they are a flawed system, and they are. But he wants to transition out of it. He has said that he will actually use the money he saves from
1) "the vast majority of economist say thats witching to gold to gold standard would be a disaster." Probably the same economist that were in complete denial about the housing bubble while Ron Paul had already seen it coming 5 years before it even happened. And what Ron Paul wants to do is create a competing currency with paper money to expose the Federal Reserve for what it really is: a corrupt system.
2) "disgraceful and inefficient the departments already are.."
@Sargeras66 The housing bubble was a far more divisive issue among economists than resource back currencies.. You are doing a false collation. Which is a dishonest rebutting tactic. Fail on point one
2) Check how horrible the charter school education is, if you want any more evidence of how shitty privatized schooling would be, then look no further than privatized prisons (which Ron Paul also supports)
3)fair enough
4)Many states will not, even in my liberal lefty state, the issue of marijuana
@Sargeras66 ... is very divided among the northern half of the state, and the southern half. Even medical legalization is divisive here. I'm sure many states, especially Texas, Arizona, Utah, Wyoming and Montana would continue the same policies because it's major chunk of their job economy.
4) state law is bullshit on such issues.
... And on the bigot issue. It takes one to know one so I guess he still has some credibility against Paul ;)
@Sargeras66 4) cont*... If you want to live in a state based regulated society, than move to Africa.
The reason the 10th amendment was in-acted, was because 100-200 years ago it was impossible for Washington to efficiently govern all the colonies because of travel time and distance information would have to travel. Now we have things like the internet, phones, radio, ect. Which make a state based society completely redundant for a UNIFIED union in modern times
@teedonster2 If you listened to my video, you would know I'm supporting Gary Johnson. Gary Johnson has been against ALL the wars, and is against attacking Iran.
So don't blatantly lie on my video saying Ron Paul is the only choice. Google Gary Johnson
@teedonster2 Ron Paul is popular, but he will not get the nomination for the GOP. It will go to Romney or Huntsmen.
Gary Johnson already has the party nomination for the libertarians. Also, Johnson has a large following, and he's well known. Not to mention he already has 8 years more experience in executive orders as governor of New Mexico, and he's half Ron Paul's age
@skinnywhop87 When's the last time a third party candidate has become president? Also, if Ron Paul ran as a libertarian, he would crush Gary Johnson. About welfare and S.S, I have never heard him say he wants to cut any welfare. He is against welfare but he understands how many Americans are dependent on it. Deflating a federal government that was inflated is not much of a disaster. What is a disaster is letting Romney or Obama become president.
@destroyedsevenfold no actual argument. Just a lot of hot air. Sorry you're offended that everyone doesn't have the same metaphoric boner for a relic (both physically and ideologically) as you do.
Please do message back calling me a "stupid head" and filling my comments with redundancy, I expected it from you Paulites. This video was for you! ;)
@skinnywhop87 I was actually saying good luck. I am not offended just giving a little criticism. You know.... Good, old fashioned, American spirit-building. Brings life back into you when you can actually feel something doesn't it?
@destroyedsevenfold Don't need luck, my candidate already has his parties nomination ;). But good luck to you, Florida and South Carolina are very strong supporters of Israel, we'll see how well RP will fair there ;)
@skinnywhop87 You are the biggest retard I have ever seen. There are tons of idiots like you that post anti-Ron Paul videos, but you seem to top the list. No one even knows who Gary Johnson is. Ralph Nader was a pretty good candidate for president in 2000 but he got less than 3% of the popular vote. You need tons of luck just to be noticed let alone win the presidency! South Carolina and Florida are just two out of 50 states.... Ron Paul is in it for good.....
@tegarac Is that all you can say? lol I'm not a homosexual, but I unlike you don't have an irrational fear of them or think they're insulting to ME in anyway... I think this says more about you if that's the only thing you can say. ROTFLMAO... Typical bigoted Ron Paul supporter, I do have to say thanx. You make my points for me very well and efficient. I'm sure if i went in depth on my opinions for his journal letters you might have called me a "nigger-lover" as well
RP is for competing currencies. Not necessarily the gold standard. Meaning you can change currencies at any time if you feel it's been corrupted.
He has said you'd be better off with the gold standard though compared to now. Because yes, while it can be manipulated, it can only be so to a point. The more divorced from reality a commodity price is, the harder it is to increase it. Whereas the more money you print the easier it is to print more.
@sirellyn competing currencies is even more retarded than changing to the gold standard. Have you ever been to the UK? I have, and I can tell you they have competing currencies, and it's a complete disaster. Do you see British banks in any better condition than American banks (considering it's a much smaller economy). I don't
@skinnywhop87 The UK has competing fiat currencies, all of which are governed by the G20. In case you haven't realized, nearly all (fiat) currencies closer in value to each other, and maintaining that lock than any other time in history. This at a time when there's more economic turmoil in history.
Compare any commodities though. All are rising with each other (against fiat dollars). With at most a 2-3x variance. Oil, steel, gold, pork, coffee, soy cotton everything tangible.
@sirellyn All resources economics you're speaking of are based on fiat pricing. Gold has absolutely no value, other than what WE put into it.
We could say dog shit has the value of 1000 dollars per ounce, and the only thing that would make it so is how many commodities we can purchase for that ounce of dog shit. If I'm willing to trade you 5 apples for ounce of dog shit, than explain to me how that's any different than the gold or fiat system? It's all the same, aside from one point
@skinnywhop87 You misunderstand what value by decree (fiat) and value by market means.
Commodities you can exchange as you noted above, there's variance, but it's low. 2-3x avg, 10-20x in the most extreme.
You can "try" to say cotton is now worth 10x what it once was, but someone else can just grow cotton and sell it at 8x. Another will do 6x, until it floods back down to original price.
The reverse happens with fiat because by law one entity can instantly create more.
@sirellyn Yes i get that, but does it really pan out like that in reality. I know there's this old way of thinking (that actually did work back before the 50's-60's), where the market would work itself out, because someone would provide a cheaper service somewhere else. The reason this worked back then, was because things were more isolated. A community usually took care of itself through good times and bad. But this no longer works because we live in a networking society.
@skinnywhop87 It does still work like that where there's little/no regulation. It actually works faster and better now than it did before (primarily because of the internet). But only in places with less/little regulation.
A "networking society" actually helps make prices closer to value, which is usually cheaper, this drives cost of living down. Instead of relying on Old man ted's shop to buy a shovel at $50, you can check craigslist for anyone near by. Resource pool grows.
@sirellyn Where we're all connected and reliant on each other.
This can no longer be managed in isolated cases. If you live in "Anywhere, Middle America", and your community has a great steel industry, that doesn't help you if you need a anti-biotics. For these reasons, we've created a united and universal system.
If you want reasoning why the gold standard doesn't work, just study economic history in the US from 1776-civil war era. Just learn about all the economic uplifts we had in that era
@skinnywhop87 The original US war for independence you mean? That was in 1776, or do you mean the civil war which was in the 1860's. If you mean post civil war with bi-metalism, it's because the government unfixed the price of gold to the price of silver.
People trade stuff for other stuff, money is the medium of exchange for that. So yes, you can get anti-biotics with the money you earn from your great steel industry job.
@skinnywhop87 I think you are arguing for the status quo in places where it has to change. Everyone is fine when things grow, but things also have to shrink or change as well.
The west is rife with ghost towns of places that saw huge mining booms only to have it eventually run out. They never "bailed out" the towns, it's sad but the US as a whole still prospered, average people got wealthier, started living longer despite 0 subsidy or bailouts.
@sirellyn fiat currency can only be manipulated by congress (IE electable officials who can also be impeached)
Resources can be manipulated by the producers. For example take oil. There's already a currency based on that called the petro-dollar. It's value can be manipulated by private companies through an excuse. Anything they can say affects the production of their product, trickles down and creates price manipulating opportunities.
1. He is not for a gold standard, he wants competetive currencies backed up with a basket of commodities.
2. You want more spending? More money doesn´t mean you learn better, sorry. Have you seen schools in China? Not saying we need schools like that but it shows money is not the answer.
I'm finding it incredibly difficult to understand how you could possibly believe half of what comes out of your own mouth... Your "evidence" supporting your 5 reasons are either superficial, based on hearsay and rumor, or statements from analysts in fields that are not unanimously in agreement. Your video would be much shorter if you cut all the bullshit out, but you'd be a lot more convincing if you had nothing but cold, hard facts.
@blueshoals Facts, i presented plenty. But the irony of a supporter for a man who denies evolution, asking for evidence has a poetic bit of irony reeking from it
@skinnywhop87 That's irrelevant. But the idea that you seriously believe you have "plenty" of facts in your video is just plain idiotic. Like I said, your video would be much shorter, and more convincing if your cut all the bullshit out, and used nothing but facts.
By the way, the facts you are talking about are only legitimate in that it's a fact that someone said them, not that they're actually true. And no, just because a few "respected analysts" say something, doesn't make it 100% true.
@blueshoals lol i raised 5 points with facts to back them up. There's plenty of material for you to argue against. But you can't.
If you want to argue my points feel free to do so, but the simple fact that you're can't is obvious. Because you're a Paul dogmatist. You take offense anytime anyone criticizes your God, instead of being a logical person with enough of an open mind to listen.
You react like a radical muslim hearing historical criticism about Muhammad
@jakenichols Actually you're an idiot, who's never heard Ron Paul's actual stances. You're just simple enough to be won over by his pandering speeches... Since that's the case, do tell me what makes you any different than an Obama supporter?
Actually bitch, not only have I read his books, I have read the books that HE has read to come to the conclusions he has and I can say without a doubt that he is right. Obama didn't write books about economics or even about the damn Constitution, the people that believed Obama are just as dumb as you homeboy. You are such a fucking troll it is not even funny. I think that YOU have never heard his stances or thought hard about anything EVER
@jakenichols Obama was a constitutional lawyer, he's actually more qualified to speak on the constitution than your boyfriend Ron Paul.
Neither one knows or respect the constitution anyways. Ron Paul has said repeatedly he doesn't believe in the separation of church and state, which is apart of the FIRST Amendment
Obama was a constitutional lawyer! you are right *ding*ding*ding*! First time! The rest is wrong! You are just misinformed, anything you say is now considered total BS so go fill your face you fat fuck.
@jakenichols lol wow, so many adult words from a child. Obama graduated from Harvard (for whatever it's worth) with a law degree specializing in the constitution. But let me guess, you believe Obama is a secret muslim with a forged birth certificate? ROTFLMAO.
lol BTW you just proved how stupid you are. First a look at just my name on yt, would tell it's SKINNY, whop. Also a quick look through my video catalog where you can see my face clearly can show I'm not fat. So you're a baseless twat
@skinnywhop87 Anyone other than Gary Johnson is garbage. Gary is the most compromised canidate of them all with the best track record and prooven principles in economics . If you are Human and want to evolve the human race and the government it has to somthing better you would be voteing for Gary Johnson. If you have not yet evolved in the principles of life and understanding of the world you live in and want to take our government backwards in time to somthing that we evolved away from then....
@skinnywhop87 I wish the rest of the democrats would get off the obama train also. Gary stands for so much of what democrats and republicans want. Its rediculas people refuse to see this. Goes to show how much the media truly controlls elections.
@JeriDro i hear now declare this comment and commenter wack. lol especially since you have space jam clips favorited on your profile, meaning your standard for a good video is quite poor
thats life. we need ron paul to reset everything. i want the world we live in to topple its headin in a disgustin direction. ron pual wether he saves us or not bring on the crisis. alota ppl have to die sorry just the way it is. Ron Paul 2012
@skinnywhop87 well i have 3 jobs one of them is workin' 18 hour shifts on the docks plus i got over 20 ppl to register to vote. i've been livin' on my own since 17 so buddy dont tell me im not productive. ps you sound like a fat congested gay bear. VOTE RON PAUL!!!
@JeriDro lol bullshit. And you're not productive, especially since you call for flagging of videos you don't agree with. You don't even believe in Ron Paul's ideology if you think you should flag anyone who doesn't agree with you.
You have little man syndrome and I'm certain you don't work 3 jobs. You sound like a child, without the slightest bit of rational thinking.
Now go back to your 3 jobs, your services are needed more there than propagating a like Ron Paul
Pretty good reasons. A gov't that issues a sovereign currency (like the US) cannot go bankrupt. A gov't on a convertible currency (ie the gold standard) can.
RP talks about "freedom" and getting gov't out of your life. But really he just means the Fed gov't. He's fine with states' gov't doing whatever crazy shit they want.
We fought the war over states rights 150 years ago. RP's side lost, thankfully.
@jstncbllr lol you'll never convince them they lost "the great war of yankee aggression, and confederate bravery"... lol You can't even convince these people the earth is older than 6,000 years.
@skinnywhop87 Im from the south and only when i moved away 4 years ago i realized it was a GOOD thing we lost LAWL.Evolution includes within its theory ( Based on a series of HARD facts)that the product of evolution is a product of the enviroment it evolves in. I am a perfect example of this consitant fact.
@OurOxygen lol what a stupid accusation. Do you have an actual argument? lol you are really mislead to assume anyone who "dares" to go against you ideology is being an attention whore.
If I was being an attention whore, wouldn't i be doing outlandish things like screaming and using bright colors? Since when does stating ones opinion make one an attention whore.
I would like to see your logic on this. especially because I'm sure, it's just because you ASSUME no one can disagree with Paul
@skinnywhop87 Actually your using dull colors and spewing shit.So yes attention whore fits the bill,and considering your other videos I would add oxymoron to your virtues list.
@OurOxygen lol Spewing shit? I don't think you have the mental capacity to debunk A SINGLE thing I said. You're just a sick little fanatic who had his feelings hurt because I didn't stroke your ego and support of Ron Paul.
Get over it, Ron Paul's ideas are stupid, and in turn you're stupid for being so dogmatically attached to them
:)
Have a nice day though. Please do respond with more baseless accusation, and limp arguments. I do enjoy stomping on bugs
@skinnywhop87 Right.This coming from one who thinks the very economist you quote were the very same for who said bailouts were needed.How can one take you serious much less debate you?Dull colors and spewing shit.
@OurOxygen Actually, the bailouts are a separate issue than currency policy (not surprising you don't know this). And since you're to clueless to read a book, let me explain it to you (sorry I don't have crayons to write in backwards lettering for you to understand)
There was a lot more debate and differing views on the bailouts, than the discussion of monetary policy. For you to equate both, shows how incredibly ignorant, and uneducated on the topic of economics to say anyone spews shit
@skinnywhop87 LOL.Do you think before you type?Wow.Your comment defeats itself,you make no sense at all.And the funniest part was your "so called" explanation was only an opinion.You truly can be the poster child to the definition docile.
@OurOxygen Geez, you type before I even finish responding. Either put up or shut up. False equations doesn't make you correct, put up a valid argument against my points or dickoff. I don't have the time you posses
@OurOxygen Opinion would be just me saying "I think Ron Paul is a homophobe" That would be my opinion. I didn't just say that. I said why I think he's a homophobe. I didn't just say "Ron Pauls economic policies are stupid" i gave reasons why i think they're stupid.
The only one that can be solely claimed to be my opinion is reason number 5.
I gave plenty of reasons and facts on top of my opinion.
It seems you don't know the difference between opinions and facts ;)
@skinnywhop87 Hypocrisy apparently was never taught to you.Wow "I didn't just say that. I said why I think he's a homophobe" LOL.Again Wow "I didn't just say "Ron Pauls economic policies are stupid" i gave reasons why i think they're stupid."Personal reasons,hence your feeble opinions.
@OurOxygen My opinions are based on facts you moron. Like I said, you don't posses the mental capacity to refute them. You can only create false equations and ad-homs. You're weak and limp like all Paul supporters.
And there's no cop-out. You haven't presented an argument or a challenge, so what am I coping out of? The closest thing to an argument you presented was a false equation from economists opinions on currency policy and bailout plans (the consensus is not equal on both topics)
@skinnywhop87 Facts?Yet you presented none.All you presented was your personal opinions.Why not post your opinions with your "so called" facts if they are in deed facts?Instead you used dull colors and blurted out shit.
@OurOxygen It would only be my opinion saying "Ron Paul's drug policies and Gary Johnsons are better"
But I didn't just say that. I gave reasons why Ron Paul's policy is just as stupid as the current policy. I gave plenty of facts, reasoning and arguments. Which after nearly a dozen comments from you, you haven't once refuted. All you've done is huffed and puffed about how you think I'm stupid. lol really man, you're pathetic
@OurOxygen Fact. The modern drug laws started in 1937 with STATES rights, which eventually evolved into the drug war. I don't support Ron Paul's policies because he's basically says the drug war can be continued if the STATES want to issue it.
@OurOxygen Yes I did you idiot. Watch the video. I didn't go indepth in it, because it's not the topic of my video. I said the drug war started based on states rights. This is a fact. Just because I didn't waste an additional 10 minutes cataloging the history of it in my video, doesn't mean the baseline of that argument wasn't in my video.
@OurOxygen lol I think i made your brain start skipping like a scratched disk. All you're doing is repeating yourself. Don't overload yourself my Ron Paul parrot, I know your simplistic mind only functions on bumpersticker slogans and trigger points
@OurOxygen LOL ROTFLMAO. Talk about coping out. Everyone knows the history of the drug war, if you don't it's not my job to educate you on this, nor was it the topic of my video. If you want the check my facts you're welcome to do so, but you can't because you know I'm right. You're to weak to say so, so now you're telling me to make a new video citing these things because you're too stupid to know basic history and economics.
@OurOxygen Go jerkoff to some Mox views of Ron Paul pandering to your simple mind. Come back when you have actual argument. Like I said, you're limp and retarded
At least, you don't want to vote for an obvious crook. But I want to give Ron Paul, an obvious non-crook, a chance. Anything will be better than the obvious crooks; Mitt, Santorum, Obama.
@Freya5000 What smear campaign? I gave my opinion why I don't support Ron Paul, and then I gave the reasons why I support Gary Johnson.
Having opinions in politics aren't smear campaigns. If so, than as a Paul supporter who believes this is "smear", you better start appreciating Obama ;)
You're absolutely right about that, supporting politicians won't save anyone but supporting someone the establishment hates and censors is a step in the right direction, even if it's a small step.
@iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 If you are referring to Paul? He has been a congressmen for the past 30 years... and now his son is as well. Does the "establishment" really hate him?
I think the problem is that people still cant tell when they are being manipulated... Its all so reminiscent of the Obama supporters.
@bryphi77 You think they're doing the old reverse psychology bit on us? And in the end, Ron will win? No chance. Obama was being praised on Fox news before he became elected and won. Ron is being denounced on Fox and will most likely, not win. What's to reminisce about?
@iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 Gary Johnson has been censored far more than Ron Paul. Johnson hasn't been allowed to participate in any of the debates leading up to the Iowa caucus. Johnson wasn't giving poll advertisement, Ron Paul was.
Ron Paul has Galveston Texas in his district, which has received more federal aid than almost any other city in American history.
Paul also voted in favor of the war in Afghanistan
So who's the real establishment candidate and who's the one being censored?
@skinnywhop87 Hi, let me just quickly say that Ron Paul did NOT vote for war in afganistan. He voted for the authority to go after bin laden and his gang, then that authority was abused by the bush administration who made it into a 10 year war. //
@hejjagheterpal fair enough, but no one can say "Ron Paul" is the only anti-war candidate. He is willing to invade if he feels it's needed. Paul supporters (maybe you included, maybe not), treat Ron Paul as if he's saint, when he has long list of faults just like any other politician.
Ron Paul actually loses a lot of logical thinking supporters because of his dogmatic supporters who think the man is holier than thou
@skinnywhop87 Ron Paul will not go to war based on what he "feels". He will only go to war if the congress has voted and made a declaration of war, this is like Pauls edge against Obama on war = no undeclared ones.
I dont treat Paul as saint, perhaps some do. The thing with Paul though is that most his stand points are motivated by someting you have to explain to shallow minded ppl, maybe that tends to be seen as protecting Paul as hes a saint but its just explaining why he voted
@hejjagheterpal Same with Gary Johnson. The difference is, Gary Johnson isn't a religious nut like Ron Paul.
Gary Johnson accepts evolution, a women's right to choose, and his economic policies aren't radically dangerous like Ron Paul.
Most Ron Paul supporters only go for him based on his talking rhetoric. I actually lived under Gary Johnson's governorship for 8 years, so I can actually vindicate my candidates positions.
Ron Paul says one thing, and votes for something else. Johnson doesn't
1. Voting is rigged and a recent example of that is Iowa where Ron Paul should have won.
2. Gary Johnson doesn't have a chance in hell, he's wasting his time.
3. Ron Paul weather you agree with all of his policies or not is the ONLY anti-War candidate that has more support than the Neocon establishment candidates.
@iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 Gary Johnson is antiwar, in fact even more than Ron Paul. As I recall, Ron Paul voted IN FAVOR of the initial invasion of Afghanistan
But as I stated in my previous comment not many people know who Gary is and he doesn't have much support, he doesn't have a chance, he's wasting his time and you're wasting your time supporting him. Gary should endorse Ron Paul and draw the small amount of supporters he has to Ron Paul.
Ron Paul is being attacked by both the left and right, the Zionist-Controlled media is attacking him 24/7, the GOP establishment are scared of him, and Ron Paul has a lot of support.
@iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 He has quite a bit of support. Even in the GOP primaries he was testing at 2-6%, with a libertarian endorsement (as he already has now), he can boost past the others and have his own platform
Let's be real, Ron Paul will not win NH, for the simple fact it's a liberal state. By the end of the primaries I promise you Johnson will still be in the race and Ron Paul wont
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eurohim 2 weeks ago
Uh, Ron Paul supporter. You said in earlier in your video that Paul supporters say it doesn't matter that Ron Paul disagrees with them on a few things, then you said that Ron Paul supporters can't seem to come up with shit that they disagree with. If this contradiction isn't enough, I'd point out that I disagree with his stance on abortion and evolution and illegal immigration. Though, I'd prefer a candidate I disagreed with who didn't enforce his opinions over the opposite. Have a lovely day.
jaykgrey 2 weeks ago
U can stay with Paper money
GhettoCitty 1 month ago
Ur a fagget.... What are you high on drugs... I rather have gold as money... You can state
GhettoCitty 1 month ago
So how do u like the system today? The fed prints money out of thin air, thats called fraud. He wants states to take over education so u and i have a say thorough our votes. The dollar is a IOU note its not real its worth nothing. Rights are given through ur creator not government! This is not the most powerful nation on earth!! We are broke!!
goldsmithstudent 1 month ago
@goldsmithstudent "Money is just created out of thin air"....
Where do you think the value of Gold, silver or any other resource comes from?
Do you think there's an inherent value to these things, but cash value is something different?
Gold, Silver, Dog shit, or high-hopes, only have as much value in them as WE apply to them.
If you think Ron Paul's economic ideas are any better, than you must not have studied the history of the Gold standard from 1776-1973 in American history
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 THE DOLLAR IS BACKED BY NOTHING!! Thats the point! It was backed BY GOLD!! NOW IT JUST PRINTED with no backing!! You are being stolen from and dont even know it! The value is what we give it and the dollar is losing its value because it never had any to begin with! It has had no backing for a long time because our gold to back it is GONE! I like gary johnson by the way
goldsmithstudent 1 month ago
@goldsmithstudent lol and during a gold standard, the value of gold is backed by nothing other than the value WE PUT INTO IT....
If you're willing to trade me 5 apples for one ounce of dog shit, then that's the value of the dog shit. Same with gold, same with fiat currency, same with ANY currency
This argument you Paulites use is really dumb and really retarded, especially when you turn it back on the currency policy you endorse, which has a much worse track record than fiat currencies
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Gold has many, many applications. It is used in the production of technology. It will always have value because of it's physical properties. You are worth 3 dog shits by the way, and that is on a good day. So apply value to your money and your dog shit and see how much of a logical point you made. People like you are the reason why the US no longer protects our liberty. You do realize that Gary Johnson is in the same party and has essentially identical ideas as Paul?!
acewinston 1 day ago
ALL I CAN SAY FOR NOW IS YOUR NOT STUPID AND I AM NOT ANGRY PER SE WITH YOU BUT I DO HOPE THE LIGHT OF UNDERSTANDING WILL SHINE EVEN BRIGHTER IN YOUR AWARENESS. MAY PEACE BE WITH YOU, SINCERELY " LET THERE BE LIGHT.
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MRDNA328 1 month ago
WHO WAS MADE UPSET? LET ME SEE, ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO IS " IN THE KNOW " CAN TELL YOUR 5 REASONS IS WEEK MEDIA GENERATED RONPAUL GANDA, THE REAL FACTS ARE THIS: RON PAUL IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO CAN AND WILL WIN THE WHITEHOUSE IN 2012. RON PAUL IS A LION AND ALL WHO LOVE LIBERTY, FREEDOM, AND INTEGRITY ARE WELCOME TO JOIN UP. AS FOR YOU : YOU ARE NOT A WORTHWHILE OR FORMIDABLE ADVERSARY ( I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO) △
MRDNA328 1 month ago
@MRDNA328 lol I would still strongly think it's the one who types in caps-lock to let us all know they're REALLY ANGRY. ROTFLMAO
lol Ron Paul "can and will win the Whitehouse", yet he CAN'T even win a single GOP primary vote.
lol and Ron Paul doesn't love liberty, freedom or integrity. The man calls himself a "constitutionalist" while denying the separation of Church and state which is apart of the FIRST amendment to the CONSTITUTION. ROTFLMAO
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@MRDNA328 BTW usually those who have better things don't announce it... Because they're usually off doing those better things
;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
Your a MAJOR FUCK UP, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE FACTS AND YOU FEAR SHOWING YOUR TROLL FACE.
MRDNA328 1 month ago
@MRDNA328 lol ROTFLMAO, I show my face plenty of times on my channel if you had the brain span exceeding a blade of grass, you might have been able to find that out yourself
Also you say my facts are wrong, yet you CAN'T retort anything. You just type really big so we know you've been made upset
Go scrape the sand out of your vagina, and come back when you're ready to talk like an adult
P.S. Ron Paul is a fossil, the only thing he should be doing in Florida now, is.... RETIRING
:)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
The Gold standard has worked all over the world for 6000 years, and 80% of the gold in the world has been mined and above ground. So we should stick to the Fed printing money, you make no sense and don't back it with anything of real substance keep taking the meths.
mulefa 1 month ago
@mulefa Last I checked, almost every single currency based culture of the last 6.000 (including the US), has legalized and normalized slavery to help their economies :)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Is this another tangent your swanning off on? The only currency is labour, the question is what do you measure it in.
mulefa 1 month ago
@mulefa lol what tangent are you speaking of? You made a claim and I retorted.
You can't find a single successful resource based utopia in the entirety of history (unless the lost city of Atlantis was a gold based economy ;) )
If you call slavery labor, than you're an idiot.
The slaves of the Roman empire, the British Empire, and even the colonial ages of America were "Laborers" than you're completely idiotic
These economies were held up by slave labor, they were also gold based economies
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 You misunderstand, I never said that the Department of Education of unconstitutional, I was merely stating that from your comments, it seems that you have very little respect for the Constitution. And I don't think you realize that the Department of Education not only diminishes education by limiting what teachers can teach in public schools, but also raises tuition.
And what is this about Ron Paul not believing in the separation of Church and State? Huh?
Sargeras66 1 month ago
@Sargeras66 The department of education, is at least held responsible through our representatives that we personally select. If we don't like the quality of it, we can choose representatives that will reform it as we see fit. If you compare that to charter schooling (current affordable private schooling), the standards of education are much lower, and they're only accountable to a private select group of people, like any other corporation)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 source?
Sargeras66 1 month ago
@Sargeras66 and just youtube: Ron Paul Separation of Church and state.
You will hear him blatantly say he doesn't believe that's constitutional or apart of the first amendment. Even though everyone with a brain since Thomas Jefferson, John Madison and John Adams has known this
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 About that church and state video, he is clearly referring to "congress shall not write any law respecting an establishment of religion, IMPEDING the free exercise of religion", he is referring to the latter. It's why he said, "congress cannot prohibit the expression of your christian faith in a public place". This simply means that he believes prayer and such in schools should not be prohibited by the FEDERAL government nor should it be made compulsory to engage in.
Sargeras66 1 month ago
@Sargeras66 No, Ron Paul has blatantly said schools should re-institute bible classes. Ron Paul believes it's ok with the church interfering in Governmental programs like education. He just doesn't believe the government has a right to stop it from being in the FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS schools. Which is not what the separation of church and state are
Also, prayer nor reading the bible are prohibited in schools. The teachers are just prohibited from teaching about it with FEDERAL money
;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 I just think you're under the impression that under a Paul administration, religion would somehow be inserted into schools, jobs, and etc, but all this guy talks about is individual liberty and freedom to make your own choices whether it be religious, economic (hence no income tax), personal (hence his eagerness to decriminalize drugs), and intellectual freedom.
And about the Department of Education, it's debatable whether or not a reformed one will ever work or if
Sargeras66 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 or if we are better off without it. But you do realize that the candidate you support also seeks to abolish it right?
Sargeras66 1 month ago
i dont support ron paul because of talking points talking points troll troll stupid stupid wow you need to actually look up facts buddeh. ron paul 2012!
ekim100020 1 month ago
@ekim100020 lol Read this example Paulites, this is why everyone talks shit about you., You're clearly ignorant, yet you tell everyone else to look up facts. When you can't refute any.
Then you call people trolls, while trolling... Geez Paulites, if you were anymore ironic, you would belong in a Roger Rabbit cartoon
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 the reason i said what i said was because you opened up you vid trollin dr paul and im tired of you so called paul haters just repeating msm talking points. when i got to the part of your vid that said paul wants wants to get rid of ss you took it way out of contextso let me refute he wants to phase out ss because he dosent want the people already on it suffer for the govt. mistakes. like i said facts
ekim100020 1 month ago
@ekim100020 Do you know what a troll is? I stated my points, and they're points I truly believe in. If you actually listened to my video you would've known who I actually do endorse. So if you want to talk about a "MSM" conspiracy, why are you on the side of Ron Paul (who's received as much air-time as Romeny, Gingrich, Perry or Bachman)
Yet my candidate (Gary Johnson) has received next to nothing
Actually watch a video before you freak out, just because someone doesn't agree with your messiah
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 look i have no problem with johnson he would be a great vp but this isnt about him its about the arguments that you made and all im saying is that your arguments paralled with msm which sound to me like talking points but whatever bro this is bigger than you and i this is about liberty so either way paul or johnson RESTORE THE REPUBLIC do you agree?
ekim100020 1 month ago
@ekim100020 fair enough
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
You cannot have a free market without free market money.
Ron Paul 2012
VotePaineJefferson 1 month ago
@VotePaineJefferson there's never ever in the history of ANYWHERE been free money, so what the hell are you talking about
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
time is now but Johnsons time to shine will come in the near future assuming he makes the right moves now and doesn't upset a large amount of Paul supporters whom he could easily inherit.
Petey882573 1 month ago
@Petey882573 Gary Johnson has more executive experience than Ron Paul. I think it's Paul who needs to get executive experience before any of his supporters try to say he's more qualified than Johnson
Johnson has experience governing large groups of people, Paul only has experience NOT voting in the senate and congress
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
the torch when Paul is no longer able to run with it, as his age is a factor. I think it would be in Johnson's best long term interest to support Ron Paul, be his closest ally and even balance him a little, all the while inheriting Ron Paul supporters who would likely shift their support for when Paul leaves politics. That's just my opinion and it was refreshing to hear actual rational criticisms on Paul for a change, opposed to hearing blatant support or pathetic name calling. I think Pauls
Petey882573 1 month ago
@Petey882573 That time is already now. Gary Johnson has the nomination of his party, Ron Paul doesn't (and most likely won't)
Also, let's say you agree with Paul and Johnson for similar reasons. Than you should be happy that both of their ideas are getting a platform at the same time.
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
As a Canadian Ron Paul supporter, I actually agree with many of your points. I think the two however can compliment one another. I feel that Ron Paul can go a bit too far in his small government stance, as I do think that Government has a small role to play as a regulator to counter corporatism. This is where Johnson can help Paul. As of now, I feel that Ron Paul has massive support and fame compared to Johnson. If the two were to unite, it would bring more attention to Johnson who would carry
Petey882573 1 month ago
This guy if f^^king retarded, this is an example of our failed educational system. Ron Paul is by far the most consistent in his policy. Ron Paul 2012
marcsimmons08 1 month ago
@marcsimmons08 lol can you cite anything that makes me "retarded", or are you just sore in the ass because I don't support your messiah? all i see is Ron paul supporters calling me stupid, yet not a single one of you on this comment section has refuted even a single point.
Perhaps those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones? ;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
try talking through your mouth instead of your nose.... it will help you sound less stupid.....
shovelniron 1 month ago
I'd like you to call me an idiot to my face so we can see who the real dummy is.... no wonder your hiding your face...and with that slow a** speech you sound a little slow like maybe you rode the little bus to school... gary Johnson is nothing more than a ploy to take away votes from Ron Paul..... Johnson sucked in New Mexico... New Mexico still sucks in every area important to the people jobs.etc, plus he can't even keep his own border secure F**k Johnson punk
shovelniron 1 month ago
@shovelniron I live in NM, in Albuquerque. Right in the NE Heights district. Come by here and I'll gladly say it to your face/
idiot
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@skinnywhop87 .hahahhaha you're a little boy... I couldn't hurt a little boy
shovelniron 1 month ago
100% this guy is a JEW!
maokly1 1 month ago
@maokly1 So? What does being a jew have anything to do with anything? Last I checked, all that being a Jew means, is I'm among the most successful ethnic group in America. That's somehow supposed to be a put down?
lol
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 So let me get this straight, you believe that we SHOULD have the Department of Education, disregard the Constitution, and that somehow giving states back their power, which has been trampled on for decades, will somehow turn us into Africa?
As for 1), please take a look at this watch?v=q3SOlXxUBLk
Sargeras66 1 month ago
@Sargeras66 I believe in reforming the department of education. It's not unconstitutional, it's a cabinet of the US government that was in-acted by all branches of the government originally as a branch of the department of interior.
This talking point comes from Ron Paul, a man who doesn't even believe in the separation of Church and State, which is apart of the FIRST amendment. If you want to talk about constitutionality, I think you should educate Ron Paul on it first
;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
I'll take Gary Johnson's advice and vote for Ron Paul. (: Skinnywhop: right on Zionism, wrong on everything else.
FreeVonHelton 1 month ago
4) STATE LAWS
5) This reason was just stupid. I'm not even going to bother and this is where I stopped.
Please at least, attempt to do your research next time before you make a video like this.
Sargeras66 1 month ago
3) Notice he says "he's queer as CRAZY". Keyword. Also the president does NOT appoint Supreme Court justices, he nominates them and the majority of the senate has to vote on it.
4) Believe me, many states will probably legalize marijuana and some states will not. If you care that much about drugs, just move to a state that does have legalization. I hope you understand that he is for legalization of drugs, but he wouldn't force states to do that because it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and would VIOLATE
Sargeras66 1 month ago
2) overseas, and use it to fulfill the promises that Social Security has already made to people. Then he will give the option for the next generation to OPT out of it.
3) A bigot? Ok I stopped right there. You're referring to Eric Dondero who has already been fired for his untrue and bigotry remarks. And as for his usage of "queer" in Bruno, you have to remember that Ron Paul is from a different generation. The word 'queer' back then meant "weird" and not anything offensive like it is today.
Sargeras66 1 month ago
2) That's exactly why he wants to cut them BECAUSE they are inefficient and are a financial blackhole. You said it yourself, Dept of Edu has NOT helped education. And he DOES NOT want to cut Social Security or Medicare, please do your research next time. He has explicitly said that he will not cut a dime out of Social Security and Medicare. He believes they are a flawed system, and they are. But he wants to transition out of it. He has said that he will actually use the money he saves from
Sargeras66 1 month ago
1) "the vast majority of economist say thats witching to gold to gold standard would be a disaster." Probably the same economist that were in complete denial about the housing bubble while Ron Paul had already seen it coming 5 years before it even happened. And what Ron Paul wants to do is create a competing currency with paper money to expose the Federal Reserve for what it really is: a corrupt system.
2) "disgraceful and inefficient the departments already are.."
Sargeras66 1 month ago
@Sargeras66 The housing bubble was a far more divisive issue among economists than resource back currencies.. You are doing a false collation. Which is a dishonest rebutting tactic. Fail on point one
2) Check how horrible the charter school education is, if you want any more evidence of how shitty privatized schooling would be, then look no further than privatized prisons (which Ron Paul also supports)
3)fair enough
4)Many states will not, even in my liberal lefty state, the issue of marijuana
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@Sargeras66 ... is very divided among the northern half of the state, and the southern half. Even medical legalization is divisive here. I'm sure many states, especially Texas, Arizona, Utah, Wyoming and Montana would continue the same policies because it's major chunk of their job economy.
4) state law is bullshit on such issues.
... And on the bigot issue. It takes one to know one so I guess he still has some credibility against Paul ;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@Sargeras66 4) cont*... If you want to live in a state based regulated society, than move to Africa.
The reason the 10th amendment was in-acted, was because 100-200 years ago it was impossible for Washington to efficiently govern all the colonies because of travel time and distance information would have to travel. Now we have things like the internet, phones, radio, ect. Which make a state based society completely redundant for a UNIFIED union in modern times
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
invading iran is dangerous and will send us to WW3.
ron paul or WW3. avoiding WW3 should be top priority
teedonster2 1 month ago
@teedonster2 If you listened to my video, you would know I'm supporting Gary Johnson. Gary Johnson has been against ALL the wars, and is against attacking Iran.
So don't blatantly lie on my video saying Ron Paul is the only choice. Google Gary Johnson
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 i would support him too but ron paul is more popular. lts not split the smart votes amongst good candidates.
besides ron paul is anti war unless absolutely nessessary
teedonster2 1 month ago
@teedonster2 Ron Paul is popular, but he will not get the nomination for the GOP. It will go to Romney or Huntsmen.
Gary Johnson already has the party nomination for the libertarians. Also, Johnson has a large following, and he's well known. Not to mention he already has 8 years more experience in executive orders as governor of New Mexico, and he's half Ron Paul's age
He's also anti-war.
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 huntsmen? he's outs
smoky281 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 When's the last time a third party candidate has become president? Also, if Ron Paul ran as a libertarian, he would crush Gary Johnson. About welfare and S.S, I have never heard him say he wants to cut any welfare. He is against welfare but he understands how many Americans are dependent on it. Deflating a federal government that was inflated is not much of a disaster. What is a disaster is letting Romney or Obama become president.
SuperMeatsause 1 month ago
This is one of the biggest wastes of time I have seen in last couple of days. Good luck with greater endeavors of better grammar and actual facts.
destroyedsevenfold 1 month ago
@destroyedsevenfold no actual argument. Just a lot of hot air. Sorry you're offended that everyone doesn't have the same metaphoric boner for a relic (both physically and ideologically) as you do.
Please do message back calling me a "stupid head" and filling my comments with redundancy, I expected it from you Paulites. This video was for you! ;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 I was actually saying good luck. I am not offended just giving a little criticism. You know.... Good, old fashioned, American spirit-building. Brings life back into you when you can actually feel something doesn't it?
destroyedsevenfold 1 month ago
@destroyedsevenfold Don't need luck, my candidate already has his parties nomination ;). But good luck to you, Florida and South Carolina are very strong supporters of Israel, we'll see how well RP will fair there ;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 You are the biggest retard I have ever seen. There are tons of idiots like you that post anti-Ron Paul videos, but you seem to top the list. No one even knows who Gary Johnson is. Ralph Nader was a pretty good candidate for president in 2000 but he got less than 3% of the popular vote. You need tons of luck just to be noticed let alone win the presidency! South Carolina and Florida are just two out of 50 states.... Ron Paul is in it for good.....
SuperMeatsause 1 month ago
flag as child abuse
JeriDro 1 month ago
*in a certain way.
hejjagheterpal 1 month ago
HOMO....
tegarac 1 month ago
@tegarac Is that all you can say? lol I'm not a homosexual, but I unlike you don't have an irrational fear of them or think they're insulting to ME in anyway... I think this says more about you if that's the only thing you can say. ROTFLMAO... Typical bigoted Ron Paul supporter, I do have to say thanx. You make my points for me very well and efficient. I'm sure if i went in depth on my opinions for his journal letters you might have called me a "nigger-lover" as well
:)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
RP is for competing currencies. Not necessarily the gold standard. Meaning you can change currencies at any time if you feel it's been corrupted.
He has said you'd be better off with the gold standard though compared to now. Because yes, while it can be manipulated, it can only be so to a point. The more divorced from reality a commodity price is, the harder it is to increase it. Whereas the more money you print the easier it is to print more.
Big difference.
sirellyn 1 month ago
@sirellyn competing currencies is even more retarded than changing to the gold standard. Have you ever been to the UK? I have, and I can tell you they have competing currencies, and it's a complete disaster. Do you see British banks in any better condition than American banks (considering it's a much smaller economy). I don't
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 The UK has competing fiat currencies, all of which are governed by the G20. In case you haven't realized, nearly all (fiat) currencies closer in value to each other, and maintaining that lock than any other time in history. This at a time when there's more economic turmoil in history.
Compare any commodities though. All are rising with each other (against fiat dollars). With at most a 2-3x variance. Oil, steel, gold, pork, coffee, soy cotton everything tangible.
sirellyn 1 month ago
@sirellyn All resources economics you're speaking of are based on fiat pricing. Gold has absolutely no value, other than what WE put into it.
We could say dog shit has the value of 1000 dollars per ounce, and the only thing that would make it so is how many commodities we can purchase for that ounce of dog shit. If I'm willing to trade you 5 apples for ounce of dog shit, than explain to me how that's any different than the gold or fiat system? It's all the same, aside from one point
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 You misunderstand what value by decree (fiat) and value by market means.
Commodities you can exchange as you noted above, there's variance, but it's low. 2-3x avg, 10-20x in the most extreme.
You can "try" to say cotton is now worth 10x what it once was, but someone else can just grow cotton and sell it at 8x. Another will do 6x, until it floods back down to original price.
The reverse happens with fiat because by law one entity can instantly create more.
sirellyn 1 month ago
@sirellyn Yes i get that, but does it really pan out like that in reality. I know there's this old way of thinking (that actually did work back before the 50's-60's), where the market would work itself out, because someone would provide a cheaper service somewhere else. The reason this worked back then, was because things were more isolated. A community usually took care of itself through good times and bad. But this no longer works because we live in a networking society.
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 It does still work like that where there's little/no regulation. It actually works faster and better now than it did before (primarily because of the internet). But only in places with less/little regulation.
A "networking society" actually helps make prices closer to value, which is usually cheaper, this drives cost of living down. Instead of relying on Old man ted's shop to buy a shovel at $50, you can check craigslist for anyone near by. Resource pool grows.
sirellyn 1 month ago
@sirellyn Where we're all connected and reliant on each other.
This can no longer be managed in isolated cases. If you live in "Anywhere, Middle America", and your community has a great steel industry, that doesn't help you if you need a anti-biotics. For these reasons, we've created a united and universal system.
If you want reasoning why the gold standard doesn't work, just study economic history in the US from 1776-civil war era. Just learn about all the economic uplifts we had in that era
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 The original US war for independence you mean? That was in 1776, or do you mean the civil war which was in the 1860's. If you mean post civil war with bi-metalism, it's because the government unfixed the price of gold to the price of silver.
People trade stuff for other stuff, money is the medium of exchange for that. So yes, you can get anti-biotics with the money you earn from your great steel industry job.
sirellyn 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 I think you are arguing for the status quo in places where it has to change. Everyone is fine when things grow, but things also have to shrink or change as well.
The west is rife with ghost towns of places that saw huge mining booms only to have it eventually run out. They never "bailed out" the towns, it's sad but the US as a whole still prospered, average people got wealthier, started living longer despite 0 subsidy or bailouts.
sirellyn 1 month ago
@sirellyn fiat currency can only be manipulated by congress (IE electable officials who can also be impeached)
Resources can be manipulated by the producers. For example take oil. There's already a currency based on that called the petro-dollar. It's value can be manipulated by private companies through an excuse. Anything they can say affects the production of their product, trickles down and creates price manipulating opportunities.
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
4. If you want the Goverment to legalise all drugs then what do you think will happen in 5-10 years? They will again say it is illegal.
5. He is too old? Isn´t that discrimination? I mean, it seems you are more to the left so that is your view, no?
RonPaulSwede 1 month ago
Hahahah, I laughed through the entire video.
1. He is not for a gold standard, he wants competetive currencies backed up with a basket of commodities.
2. You want more spending? More money doesn´t mean you learn better, sorry. Have you seen schools in China? Not saying we need schools like that but it shows money is not the answer.
3. Bigot? Gay-hater? Anti-semite also?
RonPaulSwede 1 month ago
@RonPaulSwede Competing currencies would include the gold standard.. Duhhh
2 Where did I say I want more spending? Either cite it or don't put words in my mouth
3 Again where did I say antisemite, you have a bad habit of putting words in people's mouth (not surprising for a Paul supporter)
4 Listen to my whole point on that, I covered what you're saying
5 discrimination isn't always bad. I don't think it's bad to DISCRIMINATE felons from owning guns :)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 "discrimination isn't always bad." I agree. (:
FreeVonHelton 1 month ago
I'm finding it incredibly difficult to understand how you could possibly believe half of what comes out of your own mouth... Your "evidence" supporting your 5 reasons are either superficial, based on hearsay and rumor, or statements from analysts in fields that are not unanimously in agreement. Your video would be much shorter if you cut all the bullshit out, but you'd be a lot more convincing if you had nothing but cold, hard facts.
blueshoals 1 month ago
@blueshoals Facts, i presented plenty. But the irony of a supporter for a man who denies evolution, asking for evidence has a poetic bit of irony reeking from it
;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 That's irrelevant. But the idea that you seriously believe you have "plenty" of facts in your video is just plain idiotic. Like I said, your video would be much shorter, and more convincing if your cut all the bullshit out, and used nothing but facts.
By the way, the facts you are talking about are only legitimate in that it's a fact that someone said them, not that they're actually true. And no, just because a few "respected analysts" say something, doesn't make it 100% true.
blueshoals 1 month ago
@blueshoals lol i raised 5 points with facts to back them up. There's plenty of material for you to argue against. But you can't.
If you want to argue my points feel free to do so, but the simple fact that you're can't is obvious. Because you're a Paul dogmatist. You take offense anytime anyone criticizes your God, instead of being a logical person with enough of an open mind to listen.
You react like a radical muslim hearing historical criticism about Muhammad
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
a blatant bigot? dude you are an idiot.
jakenichols 1 month ago
@jakenichols Actually you're an idiot, who's never heard Ron Paul's actual stances. You're just simple enough to be won over by his pandering speeches... Since that's the case, do tell me what makes you any different than an Obama supporter?
ROTFLMAO
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87
Actually bitch, not only have I read his books, I have read the books that HE has read to come to the conclusions he has and I can say without a doubt that he is right. Obama didn't write books about economics or even about the damn Constitution, the people that believed Obama are just as dumb as you homeboy. You are such a fucking troll it is not even funny. I think that YOU have never heard his stances or thought hard about anything EVER
jakenichols 1 month ago
@jakenichols Obama was a constitutional lawyer, he's actually more qualified to speak on the constitution than your boyfriend Ron Paul.
Neither one knows or respect the constitution anyways. Ron Paul has said repeatedly he doesn't believe in the separation of church and state, which is apart of the FIRST Amendment
ROTFLMAO
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87
Obama was a constitutional lawyer! you are right *ding*ding*ding*! First time! The rest is wrong! You are just misinformed, anything you say is now considered total BS so go fill your face you fat fuck.
jakenichols 1 month ago
@jakenichols lol wow, so many adult words from a child. Obama graduated from Harvard (for whatever it's worth) with a law degree specializing in the constitution. But let me guess, you believe Obama is a secret muslim with a forged birth certificate? ROTFLMAO.
lol BTW you just proved how stupid you are. First a look at just my name on yt, would tell it's SKINNY, whop. Also a quick look through my video catalog where you can see my face clearly can show I'm not fat. So you're a baseless twat
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Anyone other than Gary Johnson is garbage. Gary is the most compromised canidate of them all with the best track record and prooven principles in economics . If you are Human and want to evolve the human race and the government it has to somthing better you would be voteing for Gary Johnson. If you have not yet evolved in the principles of life and understanding of the world you live in and want to take our government backwards in time to somthing that we evolved away from then....
dkoribag1 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 I wish the rest of the democrats would get off the obama train also. Gary stands for so much of what democrats and republicans want. Its rediculas people refuse to see this. Goes to show how much the media truly controlls elections.
dkoribag1 1 month ago
I here by declare this video whack, gay and yes, lady and gentlemen, lame.
JeriDro 1 month ago
@JeriDro i hear now declare this comment and commenter wack. lol especially since you have space jam clips favorited on your profile, meaning your standard for a good video is quite poor
:)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
thats life. we need ron paul to reset everything. i want the world we live in to topple its headin in a disgustin direction. ron pual wether he saves us or not bring on the crisis. alota ppl have to die sorry just the way it is. Ron Paul 2012
JeriDro 1 month ago
@JeriDro This comment shows how completely stupid Ron Paul is.
"The world is fucked, so lets just hit the button and blow the shit up"
You my friend are perfect example of not only a non-productive person, but you're a danger to yourself and society....
Sometimes I wish IQ tests were required for the right to vote
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 well i have 3 jobs one of them is workin' 18 hour shifts on the docks plus i got over 20 ppl to register to vote. i've been livin' on my own since 17 so buddy dont tell me im not productive. ps you sound like a fat congested gay bear. VOTE RON PAUL!!!
JeriDro 1 month ago
@JeriDro lol bullshit. And you're not productive, especially since you call for flagging of videos you don't agree with. You don't even believe in Ron Paul's ideology if you think you should flag anyone who doesn't agree with you.
You have little man syndrome and I'm certain you don't work 3 jobs. You sound like a child, without the slightest bit of rational thinking.
Now go back to your 3 jobs, your services are needed more there than propagating a like Ron Paul
Gary Johnson 2012
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
Pretty good reasons. A gov't that issues a sovereign currency (like the US) cannot go bankrupt. A gov't on a convertible currency (ie the gold standard) can.
RP talks about "freedom" and getting gov't out of your life. But really he just means the Fed gov't. He's fine with states' gov't doing whatever crazy shit they want.
We fought the war over states rights 150 years ago. RP's side lost, thankfully.
jstncbllr 1 month ago
@jstncbllr lol you'll never convince them they lost "the great war of yankee aggression, and confederate bravery"... lol You can't even convince these people the earth is older than 6,000 years.
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Im from the south and only when i moved away 4 years ago i realized it was a GOOD thing we lost LAWL.Evolution includes within its theory ( Based on a series of HARD facts)that the product of evolution is a product of the enviroment it evolves in. I am a perfect example of this consitant fact.
dkoribag1 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 You know being an attention whore leads to other dysfunctions.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen lol what a stupid accusation. Do you have an actual argument? lol you are really mislead to assume anyone who "dares" to go against you ideology is being an attention whore.
If I was being an attention whore, wouldn't i be doing outlandish things like screaming and using bright colors? Since when does stating ones opinion make one an attention whore.
I would like to see your logic on this. especially because I'm sure, it's just because you ASSUME no one can disagree with Paul
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Actually your using dull colors and spewing shit.So yes attention whore fits the bill,and considering your other videos I would add oxymoron to your virtues list.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen lol Spewing shit? I don't think you have the mental capacity to debunk A SINGLE thing I said. You're just a sick little fanatic who had his feelings hurt because I didn't stroke your ego and support of Ron Paul.
Get over it, Ron Paul's ideas are stupid, and in turn you're stupid for being so dogmatically attached to them
:)
Have a nice day though. Please do respond with more baseless accusation, and limp arguments. I do enjoy stomping on bugs
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Right.This coming from one who thinks the very economist you quote were the very same for who said bailouts were needed.How can one take you serious much less debate you?Dull colors and spewing shit.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen Actually, the bailouts are a separate issue than currency policy (not surprising you don't know this). And since you're to clueless to read a book, let me explain it to you (sorry I don't have crayons to write in backwards lettering for you to understand)
There was a lot more debate and differing views on the bailouts, than the discussion of monetary policy. For you to equate both, shows how incredibly ignorant, and uneducated on the topic of economics to say anyone spews shit
;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 LOL.Do you think before you type?Wow.Your comment defeats itself,you make no sense at all.And the funniest part was your "so called" explanation was only an opinion.You truly can be the poster child to the definition docile.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen Geez, you type before I even finish responding. Either put up or shut up. False equations doesn't make you correct, put up a valid argument against my points or dickoff. I don't have the time you posses
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 What is there to put up on an opinion?Are you that fucking stupid?An opinion is a personal view not a fact.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen Opinion would be just me saying "I think Ron Paul is a homophobe" That would be my opinion. I didn't just say that. I said why I think he's a homophobe. I didn't just say "Ron Pauls economic policies are stupid" i gave reasons why i think they're stupid.
The only one that can be solely claimed to be my opinion is reason number 5.
I gave plenty of reasons and facts on top of my opinion.
It seems you don't know the difference between opinions and facts ;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Hypocrisy apparently was never taught to you.Wow "I didn't just say that. I said why I think he's a homophobe" LOL.Again Wow "I didn't just say "Ron Pauls economic policies are stupid" i gave reasons why i think they're stupid."Personal reasons,hence your feeble opinions.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen lol do you know how to read? I didn't JUST say, as in ONLY say. I said that PLUS facts... Jeez you're dumber than I thought ROTFLMAO
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 What facts?You presented none.Not one fact was presented.All was personal opinion.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Also how can you call your opinion facts?You do know the difference?LOL.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen My opinions are based on facts you moron. Like I said, you don't posses the mental capacity to refute them. You can only create false equations and ad-homs. You're weak and limp like all Paul supporters.
And there's no cop-out. You haven't presented an argument or a challenge, so what am I coping out of? The closest thing to an argument you presented was a false equation from economists opinions on currency policy and bailout plans (the consensus is not equal on both topics)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Facts?Yet you presented none.All you presented was your personal opinions.Why not post your opinions with your "so called" facts if they are in deed facts?Instead you used dull colors and blurted out shit.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen It would only be my opinion saying "Ron Paul's drug policies and Gary Johnsons are better"
But I didn't just say that. I gave reasons why Ron Paul's policy is just as stupid as the current policy. I gave plenty of facts, reasoning and arguments. Which after nearly a dozen comments from you, you haven't once refuted. All you've done is huffed and puffed about how you think I'm stupid. lol really man, you're pathetic
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Plenty of facts?All you said was your afraid of the drug war being isolated,again a personal reason "opinion".LOL.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen Fact. The modern drug laws started in 1937 with STATES rights, which eventually evolved into the drug war. I don't support Ron Paul's policies because he's basically says the drug war can be continued if the STATES want to issue it.
Those are facts
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Yes it is a fact.But it does not mean it will happen.And also you did not present this in your little video.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen Yes I did you idiot. Watch the video. I didn't go indepth in it, because it's not the topic of my video. I said the drug war started based on states rights. This is a fact. Just because I didn't waste an additional 10 minutes cataloging the history of it in my video, doesn't mean the baseline of that argument wasn't in my video.
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@OurOxygen lol I think i made your brain start skipping like a scratched disk. All you're doing is repeating yourself. Don't overload yourself my Ron Paul parrot, I know your simplistic mind only functions on bumpersticker slogans and trigger points
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 And now the traditional cop out.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 I tell you what,you remake this video with all of your "facts" i.e. sources then you can call them facts.
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@OurOxygen LOL ROTFLMAO. Talk about coping out. Everyone knows the history of the drug war, if you don't it's not my job to educate you on this, nor was it the topic of my video. If you want the check my facts you're welcome to do so, but you can't because you know I'm right. You're to weak to say so, so now you're telling me to make a new video citing these things because you're too stupid to know basic history and economics.
I'm done with you. You're too pathetic
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@OurOxygen Go jerkoff to some Mox views of Ron Paul pandering to your simple mind. Come back when you have actual argument. Like I said, you're limp and retarded
Bye for now sugar tits
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 What a lame cop out.But what is one to expect considering your dysfunction?
OurOxygen 1 month ago
@jstncbllr Very Nice point and exsplained very well i might add.
dkoribag1 1 month ago
I love this video. Gary Johnson 2012
dkoribag1 1 month ago
@dkoribag1 lol ha thanx.
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
At least, you don't want to vote for an obvious crook. But I want to give Ron Paul, an obvious non-crook, a chance. Anything will be better than the obvious crooks; Mitt, Santorum, Obama.
omarlives 1 month ago
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My vote is for Gary Johnson. Everyone els can fuck off.
dkoribag1 1 month ago
Gary Johnson is good.
davincij15 1 month ago
ehy?.....and the odd smear campaign.
Freya5000 1 month ago
@Freya5000 What smear campaign? I gave my opinion why I don't support Ron Paul, and then I gave the reasons why I support Gary Johnson.
Having opinions in politics aren't smear campaigns. If so, than as a Paul supporter who believes this is "smear", you better start appreciating Obama ;)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
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@skinnywhop87 Gary who? HAHAHAHA
realman1000000000000 1 month ago
Its funny that people think they are going to be saved by politicians...
bryphi77 1 month ago in playlist Speaking, Listening and Learning
@bryphi77
You're absolutely right about that, supporting politicians won't save anyone but supporting someone the establishment hates and censors is a step in the right direction, even if it's a small step.
iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 1 month ago
@iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 If you are referring to Paul? He has been a congressmen for the past 30 years... and now his son is as well. Does the "establishment" really hate him?
I think the problem is that people still cant tell when they are being manipulated... Its all so reminiscent of the Obama supporters.
bryphi77 1 month ago
@bryphi77 You think they're doing the old reverse psychology bit on us? And in the end, Ron will win? No chance. Obama was being praised on Fox news before he became elected and won. Ron is being denounced on Fox and will most likely, not win. What's to reminisce about?
omarlives 1 month ago
@iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 Gary Johnson has been censored far more than Ron Paul. Johnson hasn't been allowed to participate in any of the debates leading up to the Iowa caucus. Johnson wasn't giving poll advertisement, Ron Paul was.
Ron Paul has Galveston Texas in his district, which has received more federal aid than almost any other city in American history.
Paul also voted in favor of the war in Afghanistan
So who's the real establishment candidate and who's the one being censored?
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Hi, let me just quickly say that Ron Paul did NOT vote for war in afganistan. He voted for the authority to go after bin laden and his gang, then that authority was abused by the bush administration who made it into a 10 year war. //
hejjagheterpal 1 month ago
@hejjagheterpal fair enough, but no one can say "Ron Paul" is the only anti-war candidate. He is willing to invade if he feels it's needed. Paul supporters (maybe you included, maybe not), treat Ron Paul as if he's saint, when he has long list of faults just like any other politician.
Ron Paul actually loses a lot of logical thinking supporters because of his dogmatic supporters who think the man is holier than thou
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 RP is garbage.
dkoribag1 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87 Ron Paul will not go to war based on what he "feels". He will only go to war if the congress has voted and made a declaration of war, this is like Pauls edge against Obama on war = no undeclared ones.
I dont treat Paul as saint, perhaps some do. The thing with Paul though is that most his stand points are motivated by someting you have to explain to shallow minded ppl, maybe that tends to be seen as protecting Paul as hes a saint but its just explaining why he voted
hejjagheterpal 1 month ago
@hejjagheterpal Same with Gary Johnson. The difference is, Gary Johnson isn't a religious nut like Ron Paul.
Gary Johnson accepts evolution, a women's right to choose, and his economic policies aren't radically dangerous like Ron Paul.
Most Ron Paul supporters only go for him based on his talking rhetoric. I actually lived under Gary Johnson's governorship for 8 years, so I can actually vindicate my candidates positions.
Ron Paul says one thing, and votes for something else. Johnson doesn't
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
there is nothing more stupid than supporting politicians.. but thumbs up.
MrMinutemen 1 month ago
@MrMinutemen Haha, fair enough lol
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
1. Voting is rigged and a recent example of that is Iowa where Ron Paul should have won.
2. Gary Johnson doesn't have a chance in hell, he's wasting his time.
3. Ron Paul weather you agree with all of his policies or not is the ONLY anti-War candidate that has more support than the Neocon establishment candidates.
iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 1 month ago
@iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 Gary Johnson is antiwar, in fact even more than Ron Paul. As I recall, Ron Paul voted IN FAVOR of the initial invasion of Afghanistan
Durrrr
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
@skinnywhop87
But as I stated in my previous comment not many people know who Gary is and he doesn't have much support, he doesn't have a chance, he's wasting his time and you're wasting your time supporting him. Gary should endorse Ron Paul and draw the small amount of supporters he has to Ron Paul.
Ron Paul is being attacked by both the left and right, the Zionist-Controlled media is attacking him 24/7, the GOP establishment are scared of him, and Ron Paul has a lot of support.
iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 1 month ago
@iCitiz3nP0vv3R2 He has quite a bit of support. Even in the GOP primaries he was testing at 2-6%, with a libertarian endorsement (as he already has now), he can boost past the others and have his own platform
Let's be real, Ron Paul will not win NH, for the simple fact it's a liberal state. By the end of the primaries I promise you Johnson will still be in the race and Ron Paul wont
skinnywhop87 1 month ago