My apology Norm - it WAS Johnny Roberson and NOT YOU that got his Lunch and Dinner ate by Brian Edwards...I'm a lot of things but I do not intentally false accuse...
but with that said Brian Edwards obviously learned his lesson, and it's no wonder that he would not subject himself to you in a debate or the futility of it all....I've got to admire that!!
1Jn 5:16 refers to any premeditated or unconfessed sin that causes MY Lord to END a believer's life - NO reference to LOSS OF SALVATION. You deny assurance and then quote 1Jn where the word "know" is used 36 times!
1Cor 3:14-15 If any man's work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss; BUT HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED.
Heb 12:5-7 Discipline YES, Loss of Salvation NO
YOU'RE NOT REAL GOOD AT DEBATING THIS STUFF ARE YOU?
What about 2 John 8, "Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought (worked for, NKJV), but that we receive a full reward." ? How can you lose something unless you have had it at some time?
Btw, there are about 2,500 other references to losing one's salvation in the Bible.
So there R 2,503 that speak to assurance. Read your verse again "but that? we receive a full reward." REWARD...REWARD is NOT the same as SALVATION.
Believe what you wish; but quit singing Amazing Grace because it isn't that amazing in your book...quit singing "I am persuaded that HE IS ABLE TO KEEP THAT which I've committed against that day, because you don't believe it!
If you prefer to "keep" your own salvation, have at it; but it's one ugly salvation and not glorifying to the Father!
So, what exactly do you think that the reward is if it is not salvation? Your lyrics don't help you much either. The lyrics are "He is ABLE to keep" not "He will keep". In other words, He has the ability to keep our salvation, but that doesn't mean that He will.
Yes, we are assured salvation, IF we are faithful to Him and obey His commandments.
I don't really care to debate your deep-rooted indoctrination, but once again and read it slowly, "If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, BUT HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED. What loss is being suffers when it clearly says BUT HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED if it's not reward in heaven?
Gimme a break - you Pharisee's and legalists are so OBTUSE, yet think you are so smart - that's why you guys think you are the only ones! You folks are so arrogant it's even hard to pity you.
Relax man, I'm not trying to argue. Just asking a simple question.
It's not that we think we're smart, we're just trying to live up to 1 Peter 3:15, "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:". I know that we can seem arrogant and "holier-than-thou", but it is certainly not intention to be. Most of us are actually quite humble.
As for your verse, is that a Bible verse? I've searched several different Bible sites and none of them recognize it. I'd like to research the quote more to get it's context.
However, if it's not in the Bible I don't see what it has to do with this discussion.
You said you would debate me and now you ignore the fact that I have invited you to a discussion on my web site at bibleqna . com. If you think you can engage in a civil discussion on any of the posts there, or if you want me to start a new one just for you, then come on over and we'll get started.
I've no desire to debate, as I would not attempt anything so futile. I've noticed that U take delight when people refuse UR invitations and U assume they are lacking in courage. NO, they also see the futility in debating one who twists particular verses to suit a belief system that starts at Act 2:38 and builds out from there. As for civility, I would at least attempt to mirror Christ when he called the Pharisee's a brood of Vipers. Norm, sad to say, but I think there's little hope for U.
.....as a poor hopelessly lost (there is my excuse) former CofC member, I'm still familiar with Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit..." So what's your excuse?
Are you going to tell John MacAuthur, John Piper, R.C. Sproul, Dr. Albert Mohler, or Billy Graham on his death-bed that they are goiing to hell.....JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION!!
Yes, bigtalkiebow0. Because I love their soul and want them to be saved, I would tell them as I would tell anyone else, to repent of man-made doctrine and obey the pure word of God before it is everlastingly too late. If they do not repent of teaching and practicing man-made doctrine then they will be eternally lost. Do I need to be more specific about what it means to be lost? It means to be eternally condemned to hell. Now, you run along and set up the debate for me. Thanks bigtalkiebow0.
Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall......even after water Baptism.......real good there Norm......been taking lessons from Johnny Roberson I see!
Way to go DickieBow....I think you have more that identified the prideful spirit that resides in FalseTeacherNorm.....I mean "twist and shout"!!
So, bigtalkiebow0 boasts about setting up debates with some of the most famous false teachers in the world, after he boasted that he would debate me and then backed out, but I'm the prideful one. OK. Not real sure how that works. Is it prideful to expose false teachers? I believe it was bigtalkiebow0 himself who referred to Jesus pointing out vipers. But I'm being prideful to expose a big talking boaster who runs when he's called on to back up his big talk.
You just happen to know that Charles Stanley, John MacAuthur, John Piper, nor Albert Mohler would not waste their time debating an insignificant false-teacher in a denomination that has not grown one lick in 45 years, and where young folks are abandoning works and legalism for Grace...just look at what's happening at David Lipscomb...that's why you think you can call DBow's bluff...none of them would give you any consideration, and that enables you to say "bring 'em on" & that make for BIG TALK!
I'm glad you know bigtalkiebow0 is bluffing. So, is bluffing a biblical approach to discussing the Scripture now? And, I think you know that I would actually jump at the chance to debate any of those guys. False doctrine is false doctrine, it doesn't matter how famous the one teaching it might be. The Bible will expose it false just as easily for any of them as it does for you. I would probably really enjoy it as they would be able to actually carry on a rational and civil discussion.
"Bluff the Bluffer" with more BIG TALK! They'd wipe the floor spotless with you and get up in the corners real good too; and everyone of your local denomination's members would be in a Baptist or Presbyterian (PCA) Church the following Sunday....but nice try!
How about your preacher? Why not get him to "wipe the floor" with me? Is he any less capable to prove me wrong and expose my false teaching than any of the guys bigtalkiebow0 named? Or maybe you will just say that you shouldn't bother because I'm just bluffing anyway. Can you show any examples from my personal conduct in defending what I teach that I have ever backed down from anyone? So when the evidence is in on bigtalkiebow0 he has proven that he won't back up what he says. What about you?
OK, I'll concede that you have never backed down, but the only people I have found who did not think Brian Edward whipped you good are the same CofC robots that you indcotrinate with you limited theology - you persuade people, then teach. You have never allowed the thruth to teach because you appeal to a poor souls intellect - he scripture is all sufficient for believers, but........
I think you've got your facts mixed up. I never had a discussion with Brian Edwards, beyond being told that he would not come on my program. I tried. I kept telling him that his people said he should. I even had a mock discussion with him using audio clips from his sermons. But he never would come on my program and have a discussion. Maybe he should try to set up a discussion with Stanley for me. Ya think?
I'll take your word for that for the time being...maybe it was Johnny Robertson he whipped....but what's the difference there really - you and Johnny are cut from the same false-teaching cloth - have you ever given any thought to how much the Pharisee would have welcomed you guys into the group?
All you guys do is yell, "false teacher, false teacher" but you never show where anything I taught is false. You're so scared that your beloved "pastor" might be wrong that you won't even think about taking an honest look at the Bible. It is so sad that, despite all of the time, energy and money people like me put in to trying to reach you, all you see is some evil monster trying to hurt you somehow.
I grew up in the church of Christ so I am quite familiar with the damage that preachers like you - you preach a gospel that is repressive - a gospel based on keeping the rules and works and make sure you don't commit a sin directly before you die because you might not have time to ask for forgiveness and the end result will be hell's fire.
Gal 3:3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
Sometimes I just want to throw up my hands and walk away but I can't because I know there are honest seekers for truth out there and I won't let you stop people from hearing the soul saving gospel just because you choose to be lost in man-made religions. OK, I think I'm done with this unless you guess think you can actually have a rational discussion on bibleqna . com.
Maybe you could lose the frustration if you lost the attitude that says "I know everything because I can interpret the Bible better than anyone else. Try reading the Bible and then develop your belief system; instead of determining your doctrine first and then twisting scripture to make it support your errant beliefs.
Then you would not have to run around like a broken record "man-made doctrine -man-made doctrine" everytime someone disagrees with all-sufficient all-knowing PreacherNorm
1 Cor. 2:14 says "The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
And you don't believe that. You think you reason and rationale alone helps you....it does not....that's why you are a false teacher and forever more will preach your limited theology built on particular verses and not the whole. What...you never read 1 Corithians Chapter 1-3?
Thanks Veritas - I had missed the prideful spirit from the Church of Christ Gospel preacher (aka false-teacher)....you think those little ole ladies or the elders at his denomination are familiar with his "haughty" attitude and "prideful" displays?
I better say it quick before he locks you and me out - REPENT NORM REPENT!
Acts 8:22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
1Jn.1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
So did they need to repent and pray or not? What if they didn't do it? Obviously, Christians who sin and refuse to repent and pray will be lost (1Jn. 5:16).
You're not real good at this debating stuff are you?
DickieBow seems to have left you speechless. I guess he's right, your not real good at debating this stuff. He sucker punches you with the "definitive" verse on assurance,1 Cor. 3:14-15, and you have no response. Could it be the "truth" on assurance has left you dazed and confused regarding all of your denominations errant theology? Would you like some additional lessons re: Baptism, Grace, Mechanical Instruments, the Holy Spirit, or maybe the Nature of the Fall? We'll be happy to oblige.
No, he didn't leave me silent. I'm just waiting on him to follow through with his boast that he would come on BibleQnA . com and debate me there. By the way, I use 1 Cor. 3:14-15 in its proper context in the sermon posted at normsnotes . com/videos/the-spiritual-prospector/. DickieBow's use of it is just another attempt to twist the Scriptures into teaching a man-made false doctrine. I'm waiting over at BibleQnA . com for a debate. I think the post "Arguing With God" would be good place to start
I'm well aware that U can't remain silent - I've watched U a number of times -really a big fan of the YT video: Jesus Established A Denomination! Remember....the one where the man could not hardly get the question out of his mouth before U said "everyone is going to hell" if they are not apart of your group. Given that U will be accountable for every idle word I expect U will pay a high price for that shameful response. And 1 Cor 3:14-15 is quite clear and needs no twisting of context from U.
So, let me just get you clear. According to you 1 Cor. 3:14-15 is talking about a person's personal conduct. Is that what you are saying? Because, if it is then you must have missed where Paul was talking about evangelizing. The suffering loss is not loss of salvation, it is loss of converts. The loss of converts does not affect the salvation of the evangelist, though it is painful to see them fall away. Or, if I'm wrong please show me where. I'm changing your name to bigtalkiebow0. Just sayin'
....and I'm changing your name to Chubby Checker...ala "Twist and Shout" Are you going to tell John MacAuthur, John Piper, R.C. Sproul, Dr. Albert Mohler, or Billy Graham on his death-bed when this Big-talker sets it up....JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION!!
I want to be as helpful and accommodating as I can for you guys so here is the url to the post "Arguing With God," which is about the false heresy of once-saved-always-saved. bibleqna . com/baptism/arguing-with-god/. Coincidently, this post is part of a series answer questions that are supposedly unanswerable to members of the church of Christ. Whoever wrote these ridiculous questions was sorely mistaken.
As for a debate....maybe I could line up John MacAuthur, John Piper, R.C. Sproul, Dr. Albert Mohler, or Billy Graham on his death-bed for a little debate - maybe you could clearly communicate to them that they are all going to hell.
Set it up? You are full of big talk aren't you. Well, tell you what. If you can set up any of those guys to have a debate with me I'de not back down. I don't care how famous someone is, false doctrine is false doctrine. So, go ahead big talker, set it up.
You should keep up with what I'm doing on my blogs - normsnotes . com and bibleqna . com. I've been using vimeo because they allow you to have full length videos. I'm just posting clips here, but the full videos are available on my blogs. I'm glad you enjoy the videos. Go over to my web sites and start up discussions on them over there.
I just started a debate on the Rapture on bibleqna . com and you would probably enjoy the video "Is One Religion As Good As Another" on normsnotes . com. The best way to make sure your keeping up with everything is to follow me on twitter.
i really enjoyed listening to this.
iloveya1254 1 month ago
My apology Norm - it WAS Johnny Roberson and NOT YOU that got his Lunch and Dinner ate by Brian Edwards...I'm a lot of things but I do not intentally false accuse...
but with that said Brian Edwards obviously learned his lesson, and it's no wonder that he would not subject himself to you in a debate or the futility of it all....I've got to admire that!!
veritassword 2 years ago
1Jn 5:16 refers to any premeditated or unconfessed sin that causes MY Lord to END a believer's life - NO reference to LOSS OF SALVATION. You deny assurance and then quote 1Jn where the word "know" is used 36 times!
1Cor 3:14-15 If any man's work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss; BUT HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED.
Heb 12:5-7 Discipline YES, Loss of Salvation NO
YOU'RE NOT REAL GOOD AT DEBATING THIS STUFF ARE YOU?
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
What about 2 John 8, "Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought (worked for, NKJV), but that we receive a full reward." ? How can you lose something unless you have had it at some time?
Btw, there are about 2,500 other references to losing one's salvation in the Bible.
JSBrown303 2 years ago
So there R 2,503 that speak to assurance. Read your verse again "but that? we receive a full reward." REWARD...REWARD is NOT the same as SALVATION.
Believe what you wish; but quit singing Amazing Grace because it isn't that amazing in your book...quit singing "I am persuaded that HE IS ABLE TO KEEP THAT which I've committed against that day, because you don't believe it!
If you prefer to "keep" your own salvation, have at it; but it's one ugly salvation and not glorifying to the Father!
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
So, what exactly do you think that the reward is if it is not salvation? Your lyrics don't help you much either. The lyrics are "He is ABLE to keep" not "He will keep". In other words, He has the ability to keep our salvation, but that doesn't mean that He will.
Yes, we are assured salvation, IF we are faithful to Him and obey His commandments.
JSBrown303 2 years ago
I don't really care to debate your deep-rooted indoctrination, but once again and read it slowly, "If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, BUT HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED. What loss is being suffers when it clearly says BUT HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED if it's not reward in heaven?
Gimme a break - you Pharisee's and legalists are so OBTUSE, yet think you are so smart - that's why you guys think you are the only ones! You folks are so arrogant it's even hard to pity you.
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
Relax man, I'm not trying to argue. Just asking a simple question.
It's not that we think we're smart, we're just trying to live up to 1 Peter 3:15, "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:". I know that we can seem arrogant and "holier-than-thou", but it is certainly not intention to be. Most of us are actually quite humble.
JSBrown303 2 years ago
As for your verse, is that a Bible verse? I've searched several different Bible sites and none of them recognize it. I'd like to research the quote more to get it's context.
However, if it's not in the Bible I don't see what it has to do with this discussion.
JSBrown303 2 years ago
You said you would debate me and now you ignore the fact that I have invited you to a discussion on my web site at bibleqna . com. If you think you can engage in a civil discussion on any of the posts there, or if you want me to start a new one just for you, then come on over and we'll get started.
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
I've no desire to debate, as I would not attempt anything so futile. I've noticed that U take delight when people refuse UR invitations and U assume they are lacking in courage. NO, they also see the futility in debating one who twists particular verses to suit a belief system that starts at Act 2:38 and builds out from there. As for civility, I would at least attempt to mirror Christ when he called the Pharisee's a brood of Vipers. Norm, sad to say, but I think there's little hope for U.
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
If you have no desire to do so then why did you say you would? Was it an idle boast? Was it big talk with little action? Just sayin'
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
I think my explanation was quite clear - do I need to restate it, or would you like me to line up John MacArthur for you instead?
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
Yea, go ahead bigtalkiebow0. Set it up for me. lol
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
.....as a poor hopelessly lost (there is my excuse) former CofC member, I'm still familiar with Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit..." So what's your excuse?
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
Are you going to tell John MacAuthur, John Piper, R.C. Sproul, Dr. Albert Mohler, or Billy Graham on his death-bed that they are goiing to hell.....JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION!!
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
Yes, bigtalkiebow0. Because I love their soul and want them to be saved, I would tell them as I would tell anyone else, to repent of man-made doctrine and obey the pure word of God before it is everlastingly too late. If they do not repent of teaching and practicing man-made doctrine then they will be eternally lost. Do I need to be more specific about what it means to be lost? It means to be eternally condemned to hell. Now, you run along and set up the debate for me. Thanks bigtalkiebow0.
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
Proverbs 16:18
Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall......even after water Baptism.......real good there Norm......been taking lessons from Johnny Roberson I see!
Way to go DickieBow....I think you have more that identified the prideful spirit that resides in FalseTeacherNorm.....I mean "twist and shout"!!
veritassword 2 years ago
So, bigtalkiebow0 boasts about setting up debates with some of the most famous false teachers in the world, after he boasted that he would debate me and then backed out, but I'm the prideful one. OK. Not real sure how that works. Is it prideful to expose false teachers? I believe it was bigtalkiebow0 himself who referred to Jesus pointing out vipers. But I'm being prideful to expose a big talking boaster who runs when he's called on to back up his big talk.
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
You just happen to know that Charles Stanley, John MacAuthur, John Piper, nor Albert Mohler would not waste their time debating an insignificant false-teacher in a denomination that has not grown one lick in 45 years, and where young folks are abandoning works and legalism for Grace...just look at what's happening at David Lipscomb...that's why you think you can call DBow's bluff...none of them would give you any consideration, and that enables you to say "bring 'em on" & that make for BIG TALK!
veritassword 2 years ago
I'm glad you know bigtalkiebow0 is bluffing. So, is bluffing a biblical approach to discussing the Scripture now? And, I think you know that I would actually jump at the chance to debate any of those guys. False doctrine is false doctrine, it doesn't matter how famous the one teaching it might be. The Bible will expose it false just as easily for any of them as it does for you. I would probably really enjoy it as they would be able to actually carry on a rational and civil discussion.
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
"Bluff the Bluffer" with more BIG TALK! They'd wipe the floor spotless with you and get up in the corners real good too; and everyone of your local denomination's members would be in a Baptist or Presbyterian (PCA) Church the following Sunday....but nice try!
veritassword 2 years ago
How about your preacher? Why not get him to "wipe the floor" with me? Is he any less capable to prove me wrong and expose my false teaching than any of the guys bigtalkiebow0 named? Or maybe you will just say that you shouldn't bother because I'm just bluffing anyway. Can you show any examples from my personal conduct in defending what I teach that I have ever backed down from anyone? So when the evidence is in on bigtalkiebow0 he has proven that he won't back up what he says. What about you?
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
OK, I'll concede that you have never backed down, but the only people I have found who did not think Brian Edward whipped you good are the same CofC robots that you indcotrinate with you limited theology - you persuade people, then teach. You have never allowed the thruth to teach because you appeal to a poor souls intellect - he scripture is all sufficient for believers, but........
veritassword 2 years ago
I think you've got your facts mixed up. I never had a discussion with Brian Edwards, beyond being told that he would not come on my program. I tried. I kept telling him that his people said he should. I even had a mock discussion with him using audio clips from his sermons. But he never would come on my program and have a discussion. Maybe he should try to set up a discussion with Stanley for me. Ya think?
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
I'll take your word for that for the time being...maybe it was Johnny Robertson he whipped....but what's the difference there really - you and Johnny are cut from the same false-teaching cloth - have you ever given any thought to how much the Pharisee would have welcomed you guys into the group?
veritassword 2 years ago
All you guys do is yell, "false teacher, false teacher" but you never show where anything I taught is false. You're so scared that your beloved "pastor" might be wrong that you won't even think about taking an honest look at the Bible. It is so sad that, despite all of the time, energy and money people like me put in to trying to reach you, all you see is some evil monster trying to hurt you somehow.
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
And all you do is scream "out of context"!
I grew up in the church of Christ so I am quite familiar with the damage that preachers like you - you preach a gospel that is repressive - a gospel based on keeping the rules and works and make sure you don't commit a sin directly before you die because you might not have time to ask for forgiveness and the end result will be hell's fire.
Gal 3:3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
veritassword 2 years ago
Sometimes I just want to throw up my hands and walk away but I can't because I know there are honest seekers for truth out there and I won't let you stop people from hearing the soul saving gospel just because you choose to be lost in man-made religions. OK, I think I'm done with this unless you guess think you can actually have a rational discussion on bibleqna . com.
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
Maybe you could lose the frustration if you lost the attitude that says "I know everything because I can interpret the Bible better than anyone else. Try reading the Bible and then develop your belief system; instead of determining your doctrine first and then twisting scripture to make it support your errant beliefs.
Then you would not have to run around like a broken record "man-made doctrine -man-made doctrine" everytime someone disagrees with all-sufficient all-knowing PreacherNorm
veritassword 2 years ago
1 Cor. 2:14 says "The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
And you don't believe that. You think you reason and rationale alone helps you....it does not....that's why you are a false teacher and forever more will preach your limited theology built on particular verses and not the whole. What...you never read 1 Corithians Chapter 1-3?
veritassword 2 years ago
Thanks Veritas - I had missed the prideful spirit from the Church of Christ Gospel preacher (aka false-teacher)....you think those little ole ladies or the elders at his denomination are familiar with his "haughty" attitude and "prideful" displays?
I better say it quick before he locks you and me out - REPENT NORM REPENT!
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
Show me where Christ died for "the Church of the Pharisee rules-keepers"? Norm is not really a Christian and he needs to get mad!
Where is the "prayer of rededication" in the Bible? What's your authority for that Norm?
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
Acts 8:22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
1Jn.1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
So did they need to repent and pray or not? What if they didn't do it? Obviously, Christians who sin and refuse to repent and pray will be lost (1Jn. 5:16).
You're not real good at this debating stuff are you?
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
DickieBow seems to have left you speechless. I guess he's right, your not real good at debating this stuff. He sucker punches you with the "definitive" verse on assurance,1 Cor. 3:14-15, and you have no response. Could it be the "truth" on assurance has left you dazed and confused regarding all of your denominations errant theology? Would you like some additional lessons re: Baptism, Grace, Mechanical Instruments, the Holy Spirit, or maybe the Nature of the Fall? We'll be happy to oblige.
veritassword 2 years ago
No, he didn't leave me silent. I'm just waiting on him to follow through with his boast that he would come on BibleQnA . com and debate me there. By the way, I use 1 Cor. 3:14-15 in its proper context in the sermon posted at normsnotes . com/videos/the-spiritual-prospector/. DickieBow's use of it is just another attempt to twist the Scriptures into teaching a man-made false doctrine. I'm waiting over at BibleQnA . com for a debate. I think the post "Arguing With God" would be good place to start
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
I'm well aware that U can't remain silent - I've watched U a number of times -really a big fan of the YT video: Jesus Established A Denomination! Remember....the one where the man could not hardly get the question out of his mouth before U said "everyone is going to hell" if they are not apart of your group. Given that U will be accountable for every idle word I expect U will pay a high price for that shameful response. And 1 Cor 3:14-15 is quite clear and needs no twisting of context from U.
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
So, let me just get you clear. According to you 1 Cor. 3:14-15 is talking about a person's personal conduct. Is that what you are saying? Because, if it is then you must have missed where Paul was talking about evangelizing. The suffering loss is not loss of salvation, it is loss of converts. The loss of converts does not affect the salvation of the evangelist, though it is painful to see them fall away. Or, if I'm wrong please show me where. I'm changing your name to bigtalkiebow0. Just sayin'
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
....and I'm changing your name to Chubby Checker...ala "Twist and Shout" Are you going to tell John MacAuthur, John Piper, R.C. Sproul, Dr. Albert Mohler, or Billy Graham on his death-bed when this Big-talker sets it up....JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION!!
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
I want to be as helpful and accommodating as I can for you guys so here is the url to the post "Arguing With God," which is about the false heresy of once-saved-always-saved. bibleqna . com/baptism/arguing-with-god/. Coincidently, this post is part of a series answer questions that are supposedly unanswerable to members of the church of Christ. Whoever wrote these ridiculous questions was sorely mistaken.
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
As for a debate....maybe I could line up John MacAuthur, John Piper, R.C. Sproul, Dr. Albert Mohler, or Billy Graham on his death-bed for a little debate - maybe you could clearly communicate to them that they are all going to hell.
dickiebow2003 2 years ago
Set it up? You are full of big talk aren't you. Well, tell you what. If you can set up any of those guys to have a debate with me I'de not back down. I don't care how famous someone is, false doctrine is false doctrine. So, go ahead big talker, set it up.
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
God speed brother Norm.
JonathanDWhitehead 2 years ago
Hey Norm it's good to have you back. It's been a long time. I look forward to your videos.
philaufan6 2 years ago
You should keep up with what I'm doing on my blogs - normsnotes . com and bibleqna . com. I've been using vimeo because they allow you to have full length videos. I'm just posting clips here, but the full videos are available on my blogs. I'm glad you enjoy the videos. Go over to my web sites and start up discussions on them over there.
PreacherNorm 2 years ago
I just started a debate on the Rapture on bibleqna . com and you would probably enjoy the video "Is One Religion As Good As Another" on normsnotes . com. The best way to make sure your keeping up with everything is to follow me on twitter.
PreacherNorm 2 years ago