@horfittunge I described this at least one time in the comments. Why should i repeat it over and over again? There are different tastes and different purposes for the ways of doing a job. I personally also desolder the whole IC most times. This video was intended to help someone who never had a soldering iron in his hands before and wanted to save the machine's double-side PCB, not the broken ICs.
@tcnitials Yep, this is the way i use it today. This video in fact was just for one specific case - help someone who never used a soldering iron (and has only the most basic equipment available) to safely remove some broken ICs from a very fragile PCB.
If i knew how many hits this thing will get, i might have done it a bit more right and complete :)
Thank you so much! This is very helpful!! I was trying the soldering wick and it wasnt working. now i see u have to apply heat to the wick. My Networking teacher just told us to heat the metal chip and then put the wick on it. Also we are some how supposed to figure out how to use the other tools including the solder sucker on our own. Now watching this video I know how to!! Thank u lots, GREAT EXPLANATION!!! :)
@zarmaanful It's so easy to blame people who want to help in the anonymous world of the internet.
Did you ever think about the motivation of this? This was a guide to replace broken ICs in a delicate PCB. But it's so easy to just say "you a wrong" without even trying to inform about the motivatio first.
...whenever you are doing IC soldering/desoldering you should always use a good liquid FLUX and the best TIP you can afford. I am not sure why he doesn't include those points in the video. He also doesn't talk about keeping the tip CLEAN between attempts...I've never had as much trouble removing IC's as he had. Using a good liquid flux is the key!
...whenever you are doing IC soldering/desoldering you should always use a good FLUX and the best TIP you can afford. I am not sure why he doesn't include those points in the video. He also doesn't talk about keeping the tip CLEAN between attempts...I've never had as much trouble removing IC's as he had. Using a good flux is the key!
Really helpfull, thanks a lot. Nice descriptions too, most other vids just say "Do this & do that" but you explained why, which is what wanted to know.
Very good video and helpful, thanks, I am using this style but have 17 x DIP14 opamps to remove and replace (upgrade) It is a nightmare job and I am worried about changing electrolytic capacitors (How can I see if the solder has flowed to the other side?) it is a dual layer board. It's the dual layer board thing that is concerning me most, any advice cheers. How to guarantee flow to the other side?
@Majamacoco If the board is still in perfect condition, there is a connection between the upper and lower side as the hole is metallized inbetween. To get professional solder joints (and so assuring solder also flows to the other side), the most important thing is good heat distribution. So heat up the pad on the board and the wire of the component at once, use a very small amount of solder for this. Wait 1 second and then apply the solder, it should flow through the hole without problems then.
lol, wth? It would be more simple just to use the vacuum pump and desolder every little leg, i do that all the time.You practically are heating the remaining cut legs unnecessarily when you can just remove the solder in the first place, whatever.
Sure, i personally do it the same way as you do most the time, or just use the IC desoldering tip which heats up all 16 pins at once. This Video was meant as a description for someone who never soldered and had the strong desire to keep the board alive, because it is way better for the unexperienced. Maybe you should ask "why" before insulting people you even don't know.
@skarbu You're an arrogant bastard aren't you!? You talk like a person who thinks he knows everything and you are also under the delusional that your intellectually superior by your attitude.
@skarbu (grammatical error, re-posting) You're an arrogant bastard aren't you!? You talk like a person who thinks he knows everything and you are also under the delusion that your intellectually superior by your attitude.
Well I learned much watching your demonstration here. The board is in good condition afterwards and that is what I appreciate even more. I have ruined several of them down through the years.
This is great but is there Any way whatsoever that i can desolder without a vaccum, solder tape or a desoldering iron? Im really stuck on my MiniPOV3. the LED's are backwards.
Sure. Just use some physics. You can heat up the solder and blow through the holes or so. LEDs just have 2 or 3 pins, you don't really need to suck free the holes, if you have a bit of patience or can heat up all 2 or 3 pins at once...
But a desoldering pump costs 2 EUR (the cheapest version). So even thinking about a cheaper alternative is more expensive IMHO.
After watching your video and doing some practice desoldering, I was able to successfully replace a failed IC on my Sony LCD projector. Now it's good as new!
I don't hope so, but Austria is next to Germany and also uses the german language (okay, sort of), so there might be similar characteristics in the "dialects" when trying to speak english :)
Thanks for this video! I'm just trying to learn basic soldering techniques before trying to fix my USB MIDI controller (it's an Oxygen, and the USB jack broke even though the keyboard is new). I found it very useful -danke schoen!
I used a tripod, but exactly this was in the way. Overhead camera holder is a good idea, will consider fiddling something together for the next opportunity where the tripod is in the wey or so :)
But i think you dont use the wick correctly. Try to put the intact part of the wick to the pad instead of the brushy end, then push it to the pad. Some extra solder on the wick can help the heat transfer to the solder in the hole then move the wick to suck up the solder in the hole.
I prefer solderwick, especially when working with thoughhole pcb. Pump is the best to suck up the solder form single sided boards.
With "intact part" you mean it's a good idea to apply some solder to the wick first? I will try this. I currently just use the wick to free surfaces, never tried with holes. But will do so to check if it really works with some solder applied to the end of the wick. In fact, the pump worked perfectly for the job this video was intended to - the video of the procedure follows soon :)
It is critical that you use a brand of wick that has flux embedded in it. It appears from the video that yours may not have flux. The flux makes all the difference! Without the flux I would never use wick. With the flux, the wick is by far my favorite method.
Good point. I could have tried with the 800°F screwdriver-like tip i also have around. But i had to fight to get the video suitable for the 10min-limit :)
A solder gun might also give impressive success, as i use it for large ground areas and so, those guns sometimes are very good if you need some extra power.
Im a noob and this really helped me! Thanks for uploading!
Ignore all the typical youtube haters!
Thanks again! :D
djfilluk 3 weeks ago
I really don't see the point in cutting the pins first, I find it easier to desolder IC's keeping them whole.
Cutting first makes the desoldering in three stepe - Cut, remove pins, suck away solder.
If you don't cut the pins it´s just removing the solder and then pull up the IC (IF you do the desoldering correctly).
horfittunge 5 months ago
@horfittunge I described this at least one time in the comments. Why should i repeat it over and over again? There are different tastes and different purposes for the ways of doing a job. I personally also desolder the whole IC most times. This video was intended to help someone who never had a soldering iron in his hands before and wanted to save the machine's double-side PCB, not the broken ICs.
MusicMiK 5 months ago
Good job!!! I like it
ZipSnipe 6 months ago
thank for sharing, that makes perfect sense
pico3423 7 months ago in playlist Soldering
Thanks MusicMiK, I'm just beginning and learning SO MUCH from your channel. I appreciate the time and care you took to make these videos!
marhar2 10 months ago
ty for the video musicmik. BTW, a good trick I learned about wicks is that they work a lot better if you dip the end of the wick in flux first.
tcnitials 10 months ago
@tcnitials Yep, this is the way i use it today. This video in fact was just for one specific case - help someone who never used a soldering iron (and has only the most basic equipment available) to safely remove some broken ICs from a very fragile PCB.
If i knew how many hits this thing will get, i might have done it a bit more right and complete :)
MusicMiK 10 months ago
@MusicMiK You can always re-shoot an updated version and link to it in this video. :) Very informative. Thank you.
EnragedSephiroth 5 months ago
PUT DA COOKIE DOWN NOW!
TedEdFred21 10 months ago
Excellent video, I wish I saw it earlier.
hetvennegy 1 year ago
wat kind of creature r u????????????
powernick18 1 year ago
Thank you so much! This is very helpful!! I was trying the soldering wick and it wasnt working. now i see u have to apply heat to the wick. My Networking teacher just told us to heat the metal chip and then put the wick on it. Also we are some how supposed to figure out how to use the other tools including the solder sucker on our own. Now watching this video I know how to!! Thank u lots, GREAT EXPLANATION!!! :)
laluvznicolascage93 1 year ago
you are using wrong way if you cut the pins how you can recycle the ic just suck it from solder side and the component sided solder also sucks.
zarmaanful 1 year ago
@zarmaanful It's so easy to blame people who want to help in the anonymous world of the internet.
Did you ever think about the motivation of this? This was a guide to replace broken ICs in a delicate PCB. But it's so easy to just say "you a wrong" without even trying to inform about the motivatio first.
Time to delete my YouTube account also.
MusicMiK 1 year ago 6
@MusicMiK
yes my friend, i back u up, thanks for the good work
Crio2c5 9 months ago
@zarmaanful LISTEN and READ, he said only do this if you don't care about the IC. DUHHHHH
garoad2 6 months ago
you are the best. thank.
yaode 1 year ago
Excellent video, very helpful. Thank you!
shoez1 1 year ago
I-RON
chechnya 1 year ago
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...whenever you are doing IC soldering/desoldering you should always use a good liquid FLUX and the best TIP you can afford. I am not sure why he doesn't include those points in the video. He also doesn't talk about keeping the tip CLEAN between attempts...I've never had as much trouble removing IC's as he had. Using a good liquid flux is the key!
slownlo 1 year ago
...whenever you are doing IC soldering/desoldering you should always use a good FLUX and the best TIP you can afford. I am not sure why he doesn't include those points in the video. He also doesn't talk about keeping the tip CLEAN between attempts...I've never had as much trouble removing IC's as he had. Using a good flux is the key!
slownlo 1 year ago
Really helpfull, thanks a lot. Nice descriptions too, most other vids just say "Do this & do that" but you explained why, which is what wanted to know.
All the best
XD
RiotUnit349 1 year ago
thanks, helpful. I couldn't understand what you were saying very well but is still helpful for my project
DubstepTuness 1 year ago
Very good video and helpful, thanks, I am using this style but have 17 x DIP14 opamps to remove and replace (upgrade) It is a nightmare job and I am worried about changing electrolytic capacitors (How can I see if the solder has flowed to the other side?) it is a dual layer board. It's the dual layer board thing that is concerning me most, any advice cheers. How to guarantee flow to the other side?
Majamacoco 1 year ago
@Majamacoco If the board is still in perfect condition, there is a connection between the upper and lower side as the hole is metallized inbetween. To get professional solder joints (and so assuring solder also flows to the other side), the most important thing is good heat distribution. So heat up the pad on the board and the wire of the component at once, use a very small amount of solder for this. Wait 1 second and then apply the solder, it should flow through the hole without problems then.
MusicMiK 1 year ago
Very Good Vid.
Thanx man
flaconsius 1 year ago
where can you get a desoldering pump
DaBearsOO54 1 year ago
I used this method on numerous occasions and it's best for the job if you don't care for the part. :) As you said
BTW: What kind of circuit is this?
mikeyz75 1 year ago
@mikeyz75 I think it was some sort of special graphics board, as it has lots of VRAM and 3 BNC connectors on it.
MusicMiK 1 year ago
Thank you so much for posting this it was very helpful in successfully removing a 20 pin chip that I accidentally installed backwards.
Cheers
ve3wmb 1 year ago
Thank you!
XmasWithSharkey 2 years ago
what kind of cuter are they and what kind of soldering iron do you use
volpsp 2 years ago
@volpsp a standard side cutter from the electronics store and a standard soldering iron, in this case a Weller TCP-type soldering station.
MusicMiK 2 years ago
lol, wth? It would be more simple just to use the vacuum pump and desolder every little leg, i do that all the time.You practically are heating the remaining cut legs unnecessarily when you can just remove the solder in the first place, whatever.
skarbu 2 years ago
Sure, i personally do it the same way as you do most the time, or just use the IC desoldering tip which heats up all 16 pins at once. This Video was meant as a description for someone who never soldered and had the strong desire to keep the board alive, because it is way better for the unexperienced. Maybe you should ask "why" before insulting people you even don't know.
MusicMiK 2 years ago
@skarbu You're an arrogant bastard aren't you!? You talk like a person who thinks he knows everything and you are also under the delusional that your intellectually superior by your attitude.
Pull your head out of your arse.
blade004 1 year ago
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@skarbu (grammatical error, re-posting) You're an arrogant bastard aren't you!? You talk like a person who thinks he knows everything and you are also under the delusion that your intellectually superior by your attitude.
Pull your head out of your arse.
blade004 1 year ago
Österreicher....;-]
schimpl95 2 years ago
Wie soll ich denn jetzt das verstehen? :)
MusicMiK 2 years ago
Well I learned much watching your demonstration here. The board is in good condition afterwards and that is what I appreciate even more. I have ruined several of them down through the years.
semco72057 2 years ago
This was very helpful thanks :)
rolnxyz 2 years ago
If you add a little liquid flux to the braid it will work a little better.
Penfold8 2 years ago
nuce vid m8, i need a desoldering pump and u made my mind up, im gonna get 1 of ebay right now, !
taono 2 years ago
This is great but is there Any way whatsoever that i can desolder without a vaccum, solder tape or a desoldering iron? Im really stuck on my MiniPOV3. the LED's are backwards.
Nanovirus5995 2 years ago
Sure. Just use some physics. You can heat up the solder and blow through the holes or so. LEDs just have 2 or 3 pins, you don't really need to suck free the holes, if you have a bit of patience or can heat up all 2 or 3 pins at once...
But a desoldering pump costs 2 EUR (the cheapest version). So even thinking about a cheaper alternative is more expensive IMHO.
MusicMiK 2 years ago
AHA thank you soo much. ive just desoldered all of my 8 LED's on my MINIpov v3 and loving it. Thanks man ;)
Nanovirus5995 2 years ago
Thanks, this was very helpful!
After watching your video and doing some practice desoldering, I was able to successfully replace a failed IC on my Sony LCD projector. Now it's good as new!
pcb6772 2 years ago
Exactly this is what this videos was intended for - some sort of education as preparation for the "CR-78 remote repair" video.
Fine, that it helped you, and have fun with your like-new beamer :)
MusicMiK 2 years ago
Nice.
mdentari 2 years ago
are you related to arnold swashnaker lol!!!
1serge6969 3 years ago
I don't hope so, but Austria is next to Germany and also uses the german language (okay, sort of), so there might be similar characteristics in the "dialects" when trying to speak english :)
MusicMiK 3 years ago
That you, this was exactly what I was looking for!
0MrENigma0 3 years ago
Very helpful video! Thanks for sharing!!
PhatPhunk 3 years ago 3
nice video..
very good explaned, in words every one can understand..
And nice to see a ger talking eng.
Thats make this video usefull for everybody, around the world :D THUMPS UP
sebm89 3 years ago 2
Thanks for this video! I'm just trying to learn basic soldering techniques before trying to fix my USB MIDI controller (it's an Oxygen, and the USB jack broke even though the keyboard is new). I found it very useful -danke schoen!
gusti77 3 years ago
Thank you good video i will look at your other ones.
By the way you should get a tripod if your having trouble with the camera, or you could make an overhead camera holder very easily.
pitsabwoy 3 years ago
I used a tripod, but exactly this was in the way. Overhead camera holder is a good idea, will consider fiddling something together for the next opportunity where the tripod is in the wey or so :)
MusicMiK 3 years ago
Hey nice video!
But i think you dont use the wick correctly. Try to put the intact part of the wick to the pad instead of the brushy end, then push it to the pad. Some extra solder on the wick can help the heat transfer to the solder in the hole then move the wick to suck up the solder in the hole.
I prefer solderwick, especially when working with thoughhole pcb. Pump is the best to suck up the solder form single sided boards.
Cheers
feki00 3 years ago
With "intact part" you mean it's a good idea to apply some solder to the wick first? I will try this. I currently just use the wick to free surfaces, never tried with holes. But will do so to check if it really works with some solder applied to the end of the wick. In fact, the pump worked perfectly for the job this video was intended to - the video of the procedure follows soon :)
MusicMiK 3 years ago
It is critical that you use a brand of wick that has flux embedded in it. It appears from the video that yours may not have flux. The flux makes all the difference! Without the flux I would never use wick. With the flux, the wick is by far my favorite method.
alphabeets 3 years ago
Nice Tutorial Mik,
On those pesky multilayer holes a screwdriver tip usually works best because then you have some more material to transfer heat to the hole.
mklndrs 3 years ago
Good point. I could have tried with the 800°F screwdriver-like tip i also have around. But i had to fight to get the video suitable for the 10min-limit :)
A solder gun might also give impressive success, as i use it for large ground areas and so, those guns sometimes are very good if you need some extra power.
...Michael
MusicMiK 3 years ago