Way of the Warrior - Eskrima, the Philippino Way [2/4]

[ronmac05ad]

Honestly when did any animist or pintado used the Damascus steel forging in history, evidences or lack of it in this case speak for themselves.

The Maguindanao & Maranao used this knowledge of Damascus steel forging Kampilans, I encourage you to research this.

I don't want to take credit on anything but you should at least acknowledge the facts & it's logic, not your preconceived biases.

Cheers!

[alangname]

EUROPIANS ACTUALLY WON. BUT NOT REALLY OBVIOUS. NOT THROUGH SWORDFIGHTING OR SOMETHING. THATS WHY PHILIPPINES IS A CATHOLIC COUNTRY NOW AND WORSHIP THOSE CARVED THINGYS.

[TheGreaterGood80]

I love the FMA and I will always practice it, but one thing that bothers me, as a non-pinoy outsider, is the petty and bitter rivalries that exist in the world of kali, arnis and escrima. I've trained with different systems and different instructors who HATE each other due to family and clan rivalries. It's not like Chinese or Japanese schools who compete with each other but still respect each other.I have yet to train with an escrimador who didn't badmouth the previous person I had trained with

[rickmann83]

@TheGreaterGood80 you need to get back to its roots to really understand this man, this art were used and developed by and for tribe warriors, thats why you can see variations of this art...on a time of frequent tribal clashes no proud warrior can easily accept rival tribes art to be better than theirs

[copypacercopypacer]

@rickmann83 well they all lsot to the moros, the visayans had no chance against the filipno muslim moro in the south. so the only filipno warriors were the moros for there supeior fighting system, weapons and bravery. everyone else didn't learn how to fight until the spanish taught them how to fight which is where they got eskrima, arnis. while kali came from america. :)

[rickmann83]

@copypacercopypacer really?? sorry man but im gonna disagree on that one..sure the visayans were on constant watch due to moro raids for the slave trade...if the visayans cant fight then visayans should have been non existent since they will all be captured as slaves...and visayans dont know how to fight?? i dont know about man that but im quite certain lapu-lapu and magellan didnt play hide and seek...what in kali is american?the name eskrima is spanish but not the art..

[copypacercopypacer]

@rickmann83 lapu lapu was a muslim and his descendents were moro. He used the kampilan which is a MORO WEAPON, visayans and luzons didn't use the kris, panabas or kampilans because they did'nt have the education to make them or use them. this is why the moros are the true warriors of the philippines

[rickmann83]

@copypacercopypacer who told you lapu-lapu is a muslim? visayans are termed pintados..thats a big no no for muslims, lapu-lapu is also a pintado. and is a pagan..visayans dont need to use kris and panabas, visayans have their own blades like the pinote...kampilan is the symbol of authority i believe among datu's in the phils..its not exclusive for moros...i dont know where you get those ideas man..but im quite sure..im a cebuano and yes i live in the city of mactan lapu-lapu city

[ronmac05ad]

@rickmann83 copypacer is right on the money.

Kampilan was produced by the moro(maguindanao & maranao royalty tribes) using damascus steel forging(arabian muslim knowledge) which the pintados or any animist didn't have the knowledge back in those days neither the spanish colonizers with their rapier espada (toledo spain forged).

Learn more, open mind :)

[rickmann83]

@ronmac05ad toinks, steady your horses mate..kampilans are widely used through out the whole archipelago not just by muslims..visayans use kampilan as well as natives even some are in mindanao area..we cant deny the facts that there are arab influence since there are also arab traders, there are also chinese influence among islanders as well as indian, is it safe to assume then that we are also buddhist? moro's has preserved their tradition since they were not conquered unlike mostly the archi.

[copypacercopypacer]

@rickmann83 thats stupid, there are no artifacts of any non muslim kampilans used in the regions of luzon and visayan. tribes such as the tagologs only used small machetes (bolos) only the muslims used the kampilan. if you find a kampilan, chances are they came from a muslim. lapu lapu is a muslim because he used the kampilan, the last king of tondo had a kampilan and he was muslim

[rickmann83]

@copypacercopypacer The Royal Kampilan is owned by a 4th Generation Datu “Datu Insing” of a Manobo Tribe in Mount Balaas,San Fernando, Bukidnon, Mindano, Philippines (circa 1979)

The Royal Kampilan Sword is never used as a tool for work, instead it’s solely used as a weapon in the execution of justice, power and authority..The religious beliefs of the Manobo are revolved around the concept that there are many unseen spirits who interfere in the lives of humans. kampilan is not exclusively muslim

[copypacercopypacer]

@rickmann83 i do hope you realize that the manobo are lumad and they are anamist that didn't fight in wars or battles, especially against the spaniards, only the muslims fought the spaniards in mindinao.

[rickmann83]

@copypacercopypacer yes they are lumad..and the point that we're discussing is in you insiting that the kampilan are exclusively used by muslims,the kampilan were widely used through out the archipelago was my point

[copypacercopypacer]

@rickmann83 the two handed war kampilan is exclusive to the muslims, the kampilans your talking about aren't really kampilans, just semi big swords mostly used for agriculture instead of war and is one handed and small.

[rickmann83]

@copypacercopypacer they have just stated that they have inherited the kampilan from their lumad ancestors,and you are insisting that they are not kampilan,it is widely used in the entire archipelago,i dont know what the big fuzz about this kampilan is all about when even the moros in mindanao are also once lumad before islam was introduced to them,what do you suppose they were using at that time?did they just abandon all their ways and throw away their weapons when they embraced islam.

[copypacercopypacer]

@rickmann83 I don't think i was very specific, i am distuingishing the difference between them, the one your talking about is an agriculture version of the kampilan or talibong as the northern anamist called it, the hindus and muslims adjusted these tools and turn them into more of a weapon then just a agriculture tool, used mostly for farming. the muslims even created guns and cannons.

[Cillik1]

6:55

Is that master percival pableo?

:D

[firuinthehouse]

Fucking Christians spreading everywhere, ruining the perfectly decent native traditions...

[jedoza]

Momoy Canete = Bad Ass

[RicRagsLive]

Notice how european agression was met with agression but the baby Jesus slipped right in there with no trouble.

Looks like religion os a better fighting style!

[themi90]

No bullshit whats a better art to learn muay thai or eskrima?

[marumito]

this narrator doesn't know what he's talkin about... ARNIS or KALI or ESKRIMA did not came from the spanish, they just called it eskrima when they colonized the islands, this art is Genuinely Pilipino! it's not from China nor India.. it came from the Srijvajayans which are now known as Visayan Islands or Bisayas!

[joey349harry]

He is not the only martial artist in the Philippines who got mastery and styles. In bicol there are several nameless styles. but the most infamous of its deadly techniques is the style of Ka Luis Bulan.

[supramental]

You just contradicted yourself. If the real name is Kali why not called it that instead of Eskrima. I'd like to see some proof of what your saying. When did the word originate? What year?

[ters2256]

arnis de mano

[gsbluez77]

Why is this called Eskrima? Eskrima is the spanish name called by the spaniards to this style when they saw these style as they got in the nation, the real name is "Kali"

[sonnydukes]

@gsbluez77 you couldnt be more wrong.... it is called escrima, or arnis (depending on what area and language),,, many many words from the philippines are from spanish influence....

also the word kali can only be traced back the the 20th century...

[gsbluez77]

@sonnydukes Blind

[sonnydukes]

@gsbluez77 you need to do you research, before you leave comments that you know nothing about...

typical youtube demonization!!!

[gsbluez77]

@sonnydukes Dumb

[sonnydukes]

@gsbluez77 what are you 7 years old, and playing on mommy;s computer?? what is your martial arts backgroung?? Do you have over 20yrs experience like i do, in several different styles???

[gsbluez77]

@sonnydukes Dumb

[gsbluez77]

@sonnydukes:)I've met people like you(white and martial arts experienced) I am Asian a Filipino, but I have no any martial arts experience. But I want to challenge you in a combat fight. And here's the deal, if I loose the fight then I must agree with you and that I need to do some research, but if I win, then you must agree with me and all the more to other Asians or Filipinos who are better than me that has a martial arts training and say's that the name is Kali? And admit u r stup

[sonnydukes]

@gsbluez77 What a dumb person you are...Just because you win, or loose a fight doesnt show proof when the word kali became mainstream...

Also i live in hawaii dumb ass, which has the 2nd biggest filipino population other than the philippines.... i train with filipinos daily!!!!

bring your dumb rasicist ass to hawaii, and i will meet you any time any place...

here is my address:

46-078 Emepela PL

Kaneohe Hawaii 96744

I look forward to meeting you pumkin!!!!!

[gsbluez77]

@sonnydukes Idiot!=)

[sonnydukes]

@gsbluez77 like i said,, bring it on,, back up your words ass whore!!!!!!

[gsbluez77]

@sonnydukes You did not accept the deal:)

[sonnydukes]

@gsbluez77 i gave you my address on a public forum,, what else do you want...like i said kali is a 20th century word

[gsbluez77]

@sonnydukes Wrong! Like what I said if I win you will agree with me and all the more to other Filipino who are better than me that say that it's Kali

[sonnydukes]

@gsbluez77 there are many styles that call there art kali,,,, but kali is a 20th century word,,,and if you are to stuipid to research the roots of the word, and when the word came out, than i cant help a person who is ignorant, and thick headed and unteachable...so get off mommy's computer and put your money where your mouth is.. you have my address..

[gsbluez77]

@sonnydukes That art that is called Kali is the same art hat the Philippine has

[sonnydukes]

@gsbluez77 which is a 20th century word.... cant you do some research before you open your mouth,,, this is getting old fast!!!

[gsbluez77]

@sonnydukes You don't know! All I can say

[supramental]

@gsbluez77 When I went to Cebu to train with the Grandmasters and Masters they either called it Eskrima or Arnis. If you mention Kali they either don't know what your talking about or they'll say that is the American term. Sorry to say but you wrong. You can check out other documentaries and the same terms apply.

[gsbluez77]

@supramental You don't know who you are talking about, I have talk to many people in Cebu who had known and mastered this art and called it eskrima, but like what I said the real name is Kali!

[supramental]

@gsbluez77 You just contradicted yourself. If the real name is Kali why not called it that instead of Eskrima. I'd like to see some proof of what your saying. When did the word originate? What year?

[gsbluez77]

Stupid

[supramental]

@gsbluez77 Lol! From you childish response it seems you have no proof. I would like to see you prove otherwise but by calling me and others names, it shows you lack the maturity to have a debate. Like I said if you have some proof I would consider your point but I have my sources.

[gsbluez77]

@supramental Air Head! A lot of Filipinos now think that the name is escrima, but few numbers out there knows the truth, but I would not be surprised if you think that it's escrima, cause if some Filipinos are mislead, then how much more you, you know nothing stupid, you have just been carried along! Way hundred years before when the spanish came in the land we already have the art! Now was it still called Escrima?(Spanish word) Did we spoke spanish!? IDIOT!

[supramental]

@gsbluez77 Lol! I still see no proof! You don't even know if the art was called Kali. What was the original native language of the tribes back then. What record would there be that the name is Kali.

[gsbluez77]

@supramental Of all this time, you just came back? Lol, anyways, I do know that the art before was not called Kali, but it sure was not escrima, and the tribes back then did not have one language

[supramental]

@gsbluez77 Then quit saying the real name is Kali! You just contradicted yourself again. If the real name is not Kali then what is it. Then the name of the art is open to whatever name is created. You don't know what the real name is. And I answer at my own time because I have other things to do than check you tube everyday for your illogical responses! Grow up!

[gsbluez77]

@supramental And whatever you say, about " and I answer at my own time because blah blah blah" it still shows you have just been stop! hehe

[supramental]

@gsbluez77 Stopped how? Like I said show some documentation or proof! Your a kid that needs to grow up. Maybe you should call people names to there face.

[gsbluez77]

@supramental Scroll up! Thats not what i only said idiot! HEhe

[kenshin9518]

@supramental acctualy im a filipino and a eskrimador too. the word eskrima came from the spanish word esgrima:) and the word kali is rarely used here in the phil. some people doesnt even know what kali is.they would go by the word eskrima arnis ang pangolisi

[GaolisVideoLog]

04:28 is wrong. There is only one source about the fight and it was written by Antonio Pigafetta. He did not say what weapons were used to fight the spanish. This documentary is good, but there are an aweful lot of things said there, that are historically incorrect. If you look at archaeological findings or at what the economic partners of the kingdoms of the philippine archepelago wrote, or at what the spanish wrote themselves, you'll see that people did use canons, sowrds and armor back then

[theluckypunch1]

vintage..1982 sinulog

[rockyvin18]

sinulog 2002..

[kit2ng219]

what the heck is kali?

KALIS(scrape, slash) i know, but where did you guys get kali from? or is this a century old typo? LOL

i speak fluent bisaya

[GaolisVideoLog]

@kit2ng219 As far as historical linguistic research goes, the term first popped up in the USA in the 1970's.

[kit2ng219]

@GaolisVideoLog

oh, so its just made up eh. thanks

[letshavewhat1111]

by the way. .whats the difference between classical and modern escrima anyway? ?

[Spiritboymark]

I love the way Momoy throw his student.. ahahaha XD

[punongbayan4492]

great history for a great technique, surely most people practicing these art is a great warrior.

[wontonga]

Not boring at all! It is a VERY interesting historical show about the friendly and humble Philippino people and their martial art form.

[hoz49]

Sinulog! Pit Senor

[JamaicanShinigami]

Boring 80's style documentary is boring.

[lastsuyan]

@80KungFu have you ever practise eskrima before???...

[80KungFu]

I talked from my experience, but I cant talk for all escrima clubs out there. I see your point, its unfair to judge escrima from that little knowledge; I will take away the comment. Stay safe friend!

[vigilanteconsumer]

Magellan was not ambushed. He was in the frontlines to begin with. He, together with his men, were overwhelmed by the spears and swords of the tribesmen. No one knows who killed Magellan but the best bet would be Lapu Lapu or one of his elite warriors. The account of Pigafetta states that he was killed by "Large Cutlass / Sword." That kind of weapon is called a "Kampilan." It is only wielded by nobles and chieftains like Lapu Lapu.

[jmoll101]

the battle really happened in camotes island...

[warham4567]

Lols colon too!!!!!!

[Nikko1Brown]

I dont' believe Lapu-Lapu exactly "killed" Magellan, but the area they were fighting at was surrounded by water, and if you have men in heavy armor running around in water it's gonna be harder to wack a native in the head who wears thin light clothing. I also read that there was already political strife among the tribes in that area so Magellan walked already into a warzone and good he was Killed.

[lastsuyan]

@Nikko1Brown no Magellan is old so he drown.... when land on island.. he thought that the water is shallow then jump then drown... wata dumbass////

[gsbluez77]

@Nikko1Brown Well whatever the reason why magellan got killed but the fact is, it was Lapu-Lapu who killed him. And that heavy armor surrounded by water? That was lapu-Lapu's strategy, he knew the Spaniards were wearing an armour so he waited for the water to rise up

[traveller89]

wow. it's nice to see a hero's festival.. at least he is remembered. mine is a country of forgotten and unsung heroes. even after sacrificing every limb of their body defending our country, they are left to rot, with no rewards for their noble actions..

[TehConqueror]

i can see why the traditionalists would be pissed by the changing of eskrima especially the addition of japanese styles

[80KungFu]

Ya, and its really unnecessary too. Escrima (and most other traditional arts), are all ready complete and dont really need to be changed or edited!

[rctrue]

Of course Dan Inosanto shows up. Hes the man.

[olivnuno]

Magellan or Fernão Magalhães was a Portuguese sailor at service to the Spanish crown.Not a spanish himself.

[tyronejvauf]

kawawa :( pero asteg si sir :) yay

[wafuf14]

Wow did he really need to throw that guy 3 times

[katrinski]

pit senor! isyagit ug kusog! aww i miss cebu

[Readioheed]

Magellan was Portuguese.

[Akab6]

Yes its true, but he was working for and under the Spanish crown if I am not mistaken.

[12punches]

Correct

[ahnung28]

"Kräht der Hahn auf dem Mist, ändert sichs Wetter oder es bleibt wie es ist"

[testeez2007]

even though he was portugese,he was under spanish rule.

[wagyora]

Anyway, that doesn't mean that he was spanish.

[wagyora]

Magellan was portuguese, not spanish. The video is wrong in this particular point.

[mastino26]

he is a portugese but he works under the spanish government he carry the flag of spanish government thats why

[wagyora]

Anyway, that doesn't mean that he was spanish.

[mastino26]

well one thing for sure our great datu lapu lapu defeat those gaijin using the filipino martial arts called "escrima"

[cameema]

Magellan is Spanish FLying under the Portuguese flag

[wagyora]

No, he is Portuguese, under the Spanish flag. I'm absolutely sure about that.

His name was "Fernão de Magalhães", and he was born in Sabrosa, Douro Sub-Region, in northern Portugal, in 1480. Some other historians say he might have been born in Trás-os-Montes, still in Portugal.

And he wasn't killed by Lapu-Lapu, but by his men. He was ambushed.

He was working for the King Carlos V.

[lestatdea]

"And he wasn't killed by Lapu-Lapu, but by his men. He was ambushed."

where did you get this joke??and you sounded like your very sure about it...

magellan is killed by lapu lapu...that what happened...

[wagyora]

That joke was written by the italian Antonio Pigafetta, who survived the attack among 18 other mariners. He published the book "Relazione del Primo Viaggio Intorno Al Mondo" in Paris, in 1525, althought he wrote in italian.

[mdub2000]

lol lestatdea got owned lol

[vokuro88]

too bad that's not what the reports of the filipino version was.

face it, a lowly native tribesman killing one of the most famous sailors in the western world. surely a little hyperbole couldn't hurt to assuage the tremors of this news as it swept spain and their empire.

pure b.s propaganda. the truth of it is magellan was killed by lapu lapu, with his pinky. poked him hard. hard and good. the end.

[wagyora]

For me, this Lapu Lapu stuff sounds more like a romance version., and a ambush sounds more historically accurate. I don't doubt Lapu Lapu's prowess in combat, but the europeans had good weapons and some trainment. They could be formidable foes. I don't think Pigafetta would conceal the truth.

[FractalBolt]

Apparently Magellan was hit by a poisonous arrow and then he was ambushed and killed by Filipino warriors.

Sounds about right. The Fight Quest episode on Eskrima also made it look like Lapu-Lapu (as powerful a warrior as he was) had killed Magellan on a one on one fight, which wasn't the case.

[vigilanteconsumer]

Of course Pigafetta wouldnt conceal the truth. If you really read his account. Magellan was not ambushed because he was, together with his men, in the frontlines of the battleground. Definition : ambush n. The act of lying in wait to attack by surprise. A sudden attack made from a concealed position.

[USNCorpsman]

Magellan is Portugese flying under the SPANISH flag

[kellooo]

philippines is a tough environment..yea..stabbing is damn str8 in street fights...

[marlo916]

HALA BIRA!!!

[jojoagj]

I can't wait to go home for X-mas, being away I don't miss home but talking, seeing videos, being with family I miss it.

[Basta11]

That old guy is just throwing that guy

[kancerzx]

best knife defense ever

[Max8Jizzy]

He's GOOD.

[manokiro]

you can visit CACOY DOCE PARES ESKRIMA in youtube,and you can see more actions 25 years after the WAY OF THE WARRIOR DOCUMENTARY...

[eraserheads78]

daghang salamat bai. =) Mabuhay!

[wowawe69]

wow. nice...

[pakamut]

Mabuhay..............

[ishetrying]

Pretty interesting history as well as martial arts.