Elizabeth debuted in KOF XI, which came out in 2005, and Poison debuted in Final Fight, which came out in 1989. Your stupidity is unbearable, so just stop before you make yourself look even more retarded than you are.
before you even talk shit do your homework....yes poison was before elizabeth.....but poison was never in an legit fighting game and never had a move list so you need to STFU and sit down and read some
she was only put in there cause of elizabeth B from KOF no questions asked
mechanics and all .....just like abel,c.viper,juri and el fuete ....they are all based on SNK characters mechanics and design since they suck at originality....friggin capcom is pathetic ever since 3rd strike
LOL, see? You're just pulling shit out of your ass. This is hilarious. You're assuming they put Poison in because she has a whip thing like Elizabeth! What kind of baseless bullshit is that? And judging from the videos, their movesets are nothing alike. And all those other characters you mentioned? Also baseless assumptions and pretty much bullshit. EVERY fighting game has common cliches that they all share in common.
And besides, Capcom has no reason to steal from KOF. Their recent games have had TREMENDOUS success, pretty much more so than any other fighting game in the market. What has KOF done recently? KOF XII? NOBODY bought it. So fuck that.
you base this only on one games XD your are a really fucking tool KOF is more successful in japan,china,europe,africa,south africa and mexico
it's only in the US you guys are all stuck with crapcom's shitty 20 year old same shit with the hightly lack of originality ever
15 years of SF and they haven't gone anywhere....go learn how to play KOF and your wont wanna play SF anymore......that happened to me 11 years ago .....crapcom only has 3rd strike and nothing else except rehashing
I don't know where you're getting your facts, but the Street Fighter franchise is in the top ten best selling video game series of all time, and KOF is nowhere near that list, so again, stop pulling shit out of your ass. And lack of originality? You still don't realize that SF4 is still the best fighting game in recent years? Its not a rehash, its simply amazing because it is, in fact, amazing.
@GuhBukSan what's so amazing about it......it's a fucking rehash you shit head....look at the fucking game......just like apple they know how to market plus they ever made their own system like SNK as with NEO GEO....and KOF was made from previous SNK fighters......which you don't know much about
Oh, so its an opinion war now. Alright, well I can't argue with you there. I'm just going to go with my opinion, which is backed by every respectable gaming entity in existence and pretty much all of the gaming community. You can prance around in your own world in the mean-time, it doesn't matter to me if you can't appreciate a good game.
And don't tell me I don't know anything about KOF, ask me anything and I'll tell you.
So what shit did they pump out after 3rd strike, exactly? They didn't release anything Street Fighter til SF4, YEARS later, and it was worth the wait because of its immense quality. And who said I had anything against KOF? I've been an avid KOF player since '98 came out, and I still play KOF 2003, but nobody plays these games anymore because they're so under-appreciated here so I can't even bother.
um no one plays 2003 XD go play 97,98/UM,2002/UM....and XIII you are playing the bad KOF XD you have xbox or PC cause you can play online with MAME and or xbox and it's SO MUCH BETTER plus there are alot better players and ofcourse it's a under - appreciated series cause capcom still hogs the spot light with rehased game with better graphics
EX+3rd strike+ alpha+ SSF2T= SSF4 AE.......something is wrong if they can't actually progress with the story and characters plus game
Lol, don't argue with me just for the sake of arguing, 2003 is actually one of the better games, as opposed to 2002. Look on any review site, anywhere. '03 is one of the high points.
And you can keep saying what you want, but the fact of the matter is SF4 is an incredibly game, and just what the series needed. It lived up to the series name and out-did any previous game before it.
And story/character has always been a weak-point of fighting games, but no one actually cares or pays attention to that aspect because its a fighting game. It's not even considered important when reviewing a game. So SF's story and characters haven't progressed, so what? How can they make a sensible story with how the games come out? Have you seen Kyo change over 10 years? They put a new jacket on him and call it new.
@GuhBukSan i play KOF for story and for fun.....if you follow the story you would know what to expect in terms of characters and move lists......which is IMPORTANT ....is it not?|
10 yea yes EVERYONE HAS CHANGED kyo whole move list if totally different since he got his powers fully back and can throw his flame again like from 94 and since that happened he doesn't have flame punches and same thing with iori...he has no flame so his move is it totally different...but WTF do you really know ?
You haven't even asked me what I know, how are you going to keep treating me like I know nothing about KOF? Just because I was defending capcom, doesn't mean I hate SNK, sometimes i PREFER the KOF games over SF. I know every bit of what you're talking about, I've followed the KOF storyline very closely since I started playing it in the arcades as a child.
And do you realize what you are talking about? The KOF character's movelists constantly switch around between games, and that means they are trying to BALANCE the characters, which they have many chances to do since the game was once coming out on a yearly basis. They had room to change things around because it was always shaky, what with player response. But SF's characters? Their movelists have always been perfect and are legendary as a result. People still play SF2
Can you imagine what would happen if you took away Ryu's Hadouken, and gave him some dash punch? You don't mess with shit like that, it instantly destroys YEARS and YEARS of stable gameplay.
@GuhBukSan um ken,gouki,oni,gouken,dan,shaun,sakura.shin gouki....they have already XD how do you not notice that .....they make cloans instead of changing one character or a few characters
it's not called rebalancing it's called progression with characters....capcom players are too bitchy to try something new...plus KOF or even every SNK fighter is 100x more technical then SF
Lol, its rebalancing with the ILLUSION of progression, no game developer in their right mind would change up fighting game gameplay because of the story, its insane. Oh, and you're going to talk about lazy character re-hashing? SNK used the same low-res character sprites for over 10 fucking years. Shingo, K', and those ACTUAL Kyo clones are along the same lines of those characters you mentioned. And sure, I think the KOF fighters are sometimes a lot more technical than the SF games
But my point is, you can't with plot or character development in fighting games. You just have to pretend that the rules of reality don't exist, and be contend with the fact that they never age or change. Would you want to play a 50 year old Ryu or a sagging Chun-Li? Would you want the characters you've worked with and mastered for years, suddenly getting new styles because it had to fit the story? That's just awful and it would never work.
Nothing "worked", none of that did anything to make the games any better, it was just something they did and fans are used to it. In fact, it would be better if there was no progression of plot in Tekken, the characters are getting old as hell. Anyway, its come back to ur opinion of how SF4 is, so I don't feel like dragging this on.
Kyo has projectiles from 94 - 99 and then got it back in 03
iori had projectiles from 95 - XII
ralf and clark are back to the half 94 syle with new XII style since they made the game with everyones roots in mind and even everyones moves lists has changed since it's faster well except kula,shen,liz,duo long plus the new system they have for KOF XIII since the C.C was too slow in KOF XII
it worked in TEKKEN,KOF,even SFA,with evil ryu.... and DOA,SC and even BB...so how are you to tell me that story doesn't matter...you looks really stupid right now
Cody, Guy, Asuka and Lili will all be confirmed as 2 teams probably at the next big event. You can tell they will be confirmed because at 1:51 it shows the "New Challenger" Sign that first introduced Poison and Huge into the wrestling ring.
Thats why I said Haggar wouldn't be part because there was no sign of him actually doing anything other than being defeated.
So they weren't CONFIRMED yet but they sure as hell are in the game like Asuka and Lili.
I Thought Peggy was 16?
GiffityHutz2k10 3 months ago
What's with all the haters? If you don't like Capcom and its games, why do you even bother watching these trailers?
auyounbb 7 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAH poison is elizabeth from KOF....CAPCOM YOU FUCKING SUCK AT MAKING YOUR OWN STYLE CHARACTERS
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
Elizabeth debuted in KOF XI, which came out in 2005, and Poison debuted in Final Fight, which came out in 1989. Your stupidity is unbearable, so just stop before you make yourself look even more retarded than you are.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@GuhBukSan
before you even talk shit do your homework....yes poison was before elizabeth.....but poison was never in an legit fighting game and never had a move list so you need to STFU and sit down and read some
she was only put in there cause of elizabeth B from KOF no questions asked
mechanics and all .....just like abel,c.viper,juri and el fuete ....they are all based on SNK characters mechanics and design since they suck at originality....friggin capcom is pathetic ever since 3rd strike
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
LOL, see? You're just pulling shit out of your ass. This is hilarious. You're assuming they put Poison in because she has a whip thing like Elizabeth! What kind of baseless bullshit is that? And judging from the videos, their movesets are nothing alike. And all those other characters you mentioned? Also baseless assumptions and pretty much bullshit. EVERY fighting game has common cliches that they all share in common.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@GuhBukSan
LOL who is like chun li in KOF noob...NO ONE get your head out your ass
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
And besides, Capcom has no reason to steal from KOF. Their recent games have had TREMENDOUS success, pretty much more so than any other fighting game in the market. What has KOF done recently? KOF XII? NOBODY bought it. So fuck that.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@GuhBukSan
you base this only on one games XD your are a really fucking tool KOF is more successful in japan,china,europe,africa,south africa and mexico
it's only in the US you guys are all stuck with crapcom's shitty 20 year old same shit with the hightly lack of originality ever
15 years of SF and they haven't gone anywhere....go learn how to play KOF and your wont wanna play SF anymore......that happened to me 11 years ago .....crapcom only has 3rd strike and nothing else except rehashing
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
I don't know where you're getting your facts, but the Street Fighter franchise is in the top ten best selling video game series of all time, and KOF is nowhere near that list, so again, stop pulling shit out of your ass. And lack of originality? You still don't realize that SF4 is still the best fighting game in recent years? Its not a rehash, its simply amazing because it is, in fact, amazing.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@GuhBukSan what's so amazing about it......it's a fucking rehash you shit head....look at the fucking game......just like apple they know how to market plus they ever made their own system like SNK as with NEO GEO....and KOF was made from previous SNK fighters......which you don't know much about
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
Oh, so its an opinion war now. Alright, well I can't argue with you there. I'm just going to go with my opinion, which is backed by every respectable gaming entity in existence and pretty much all of the gaming community. You can prance around in your own world in the mean-time, it doesn't matter to me if you can't appreciate a good game.
And don't tell me I don't know anything about KOF, ask me anything and I'll tell you.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
So what shit did they pump out after 3rd strike, exactly? They didn't release anything Street Fighter til SF4, YEARS later, and it was worth the wait because of its immense quality. And who said I had anything against KOF? I've been an avid KOF player since '98 came out, and I still play KOF 2003, but nobody plays these games anymore because they're so under-appreciated here so I can't even bother.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@GuhBukSan
um no one plays 2003 XD go play 97,98/UM,2002/UM....and XIII you are playing the bad KOF XD you have xbox or PC cause you can play online with MAME and or xbox and it's SO MUCH BETTER plus there are alot better players and ofcourse it's a under - appreciated series cause capcom still hogs the spot light with rehased game with better graphics
EX+3rd strike+ alpha+ SSF2T= SSF4 AE.......something is wrong if they can't actually progress with the story and characters plus game
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
Lol, don't argue with me just for the sake of arguing, 2003 is actually one of the better games, as opposed to 2002. Look on any review site, anywhere. '03 is one of the high points.
And you can keep saying what you want, but the fact of the matter is SF4 is an incredibly game, and just what the series needed. It lived up to the series name and out-did any previous game before it.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
And story/character has always been a weak-point of fighting games, but no one actually cares or pays attention to that aspect because its a fighting game. It's not even considered important when reviewing a game. So SF's story and characters haven't progressed, so what? How can they make a sensible story with how the games come out? Have you seen Kyo change over 10 years? They put a new jacket on him and call it new.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@GuhBukSan i play KOF for story and for fun.....if you follow the story you would know what to expect in terms of characters and move lists......which is IMPORTANT ....is it not?|
10 yea yes EVERYONE HAS CHANGED kyo whole move list if totally different since he got his powers fully back and can throw his flame again like from 94 and since that happened he doesn't have flame punches and same thing with iori...he has no flame so his move is it totally different...but WTF do you really know ?
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
You haven't even asked me what I know, how are you going to keep treating me like I know nothing about KOF? Just because I was defending capcom, doesn't mean I hate SNK, sometimes i PREFER the KOF games over SF. I know every bit of what you're talking about, I've followed the KOF storyline very closely since I started playing it in the arcades as a child.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
And do you realize what you are talking about? The KOF character's movelists constantly switch around between games, and that means they are trying to BALANCE the characters, which they have many chances to do since the game was once coming out on a yearly basis. They had room to change things around because it was always shaky, what with player response. But SF's characters? Their movelists have always been perfect and are legendary as a result. People still play SF2
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
Can you imagine what would happen if you took away Ryu's Hadouken, and gave him some dash punch? You don't mess with shit like that, it instantly destroys YEARS and YEARS of stable gameplay.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@GuhBukSan um ken,gouki,oni,gouken,dan,shaun,sakura.shin gouki....they have already XD how do you not notice that .....they make cloans instead of changing one character or a few characters
it's not called rebalancing it's called progression with characters....capcom players are too bitchy to try something new...plus KOF or even every SNK fighter is 100x more technical then SF
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
Lol, its rebalancing with the ILLUSION of progression, no game developer in their right mind would change up fighting game gameplay because of the story, its insane. Oh, and you're going to talk about lazy character re-hashing? SNK used the same low-res character sprites for over 10 fucking years. Shingo, K', and those ACTUAL Kyo clones are along the same lines of those characters you mentioned. And sure, I think the KOF fighters are sometimes a lot more technical than the SF games
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
But my point is, you can't with plot or character development in fighting games. You just have to pretend that the rules of reality don't exist, and be contend with the fact that they never age or change. Would you want to play a 50 year old Ryu or a sagging Chun-Li? Would you want the characters you've worked with and mastered for years, suddenly getting new styles because it had to fit the story? That's just awful and it would never work.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@GuhBukSan
it works for KOF and it worked DAMN well for tekken and even virtua fighter and DOA so why not SF.....LACK OF INNOVATION and originality that's why
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
Nothing "worked", none of that did anything to make the games any better, it was just something they did and fans are used to it. In fact, it would be better if there was no progression of plot in Tekken, the characters are getting old as hell. Anyway, its come back to ur opinion of how SF4 is, so I don't feel like dragging this on.
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
@GuhBukSan of course it worked
Kyo has projectiles from 94 - 99 and then got it back in 03
iori had projectiles from 95 - XII
ralf and clark are back to the half 94 syle with new XII style since they made the game with everyones roots in mind and even everyones moves lists has changed since it's faster well except kula,shen,liz,duo long plus the new system they have for KOF XIII since the C.C was too slow in KOF XII
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
Respond to this video...
it worked in TEKKEN,KOF,even SFA,with evil ryu.... and DOA,SC and even BB...so how are you to tell me that story doesn't matter...you looks really stupid right now
kyuubiflame 7 months ago
@kyuubiflame
sigh~ yeah sure whatever. Ima go be more productive, cya
GuhBukSan 7 months ago
Bow down to Poison...
ugforthewin 7 months ago
CODY GUY HAGAR POSION HUGO IF THERE IN TAKE ALL MY MONEY ALL OF IT
TheABJS 7 months ago
@TheABJS
I don't think Haggar actually is in it, i think it was just meant to show King beat somebody popular.
But Cody Guy Poison and Hugo are all part of the game.
assassin4than 7 months ago
@assassin4than yea i see you point also if haggar was in NO ZANGIEF :( but iam still sold if cody in it hes my main
TheABJS 7 months ago
@TheABJS
Didn't you see the end of the cinematic video 2? Cody and Guy are definitely in the game.
/watch?v=ghzBQn6QI6s
assassin4than 7 months ago
@assassin4than yea i DEFINITELY saw that but they were not corformed see thats how capcom gets you
TheABJS 7 months ago
@TheABJS
Cody, Guy, Asuka and Lili will all be confirmed as 2 teams probably at the next big event. You can tell they will be confirmed because at 1:51 it shows the "New Challenger" Sign that first introduced Poison and Huge into the wrestling ring.
Thats why I said Haggar wouldn't be part because there was no sign of him actually doing anything other than being defeated.
So they weren't CONFIRMED yet but they sure as hell are in the game like Asuka and Lili.
assassin4than 7 months ago
@assassin4than o well ok then thanks for the info
TheABJS 7 months ago
THE FIRST TRAVESTITE IN A FIGHTING GAME! SO FIERCE/EPIC!
diefox 7 months ago
If they're throwing in some Final Fight characters, I hope they at least one from Darkstalkers or Rival Schools too.
Saiyanryu 7 months ago
Sweet! nice new look on poison
946 7 months ago
Poison is in!? HELL YEAH
SmexyAsianGirls 7 months ago