Tom Snyder Interviews Durk Pearson and Jerry Pournelle Pt 1

[trekcannondale11]

Thanks for sharing

[TELEVISIONARCHIVES]

Clint Eastwood has been on the Durk Pearson Life Extension regimen for years.

[bearmare]

Durk remains a a person is extraordinary vision and a wealth of informed opinions on a wide scope of subjects. For many years, this great man has had a considerable influence on my life. In regard to my lifestyle choices and politics, Durk is an icon.

[13abbitt]

I remember Durk from the 70s. I had their most famous book, and I tried a lot of things they suggested (and dropped them, over cost). Taking care of yourself is smart; overdoing is a form of vanity. If most of us lived to be 150, the planet would be dead already. Still, I admire Durk's/Shaw's interest chemistry.

[owtang]

my mother, who is 80, had leg pain for 30 years UNTIL she started taking B12 and B6 and it stopped immediately. she isn't prone to hyperbole so if she says she stopped having pain, it's true. there is a relationship between the B vitamins and reducing fibromyalgia pain.

[nesnman]

It's a placebo effect.

[owtang]

B12 might raise serotonin which is not placebo. my mother has fibromyalgia and the B12 does help her.

what are your credentials for saying placebo?? i've following durk and sandy since 1984 and i don't drink all the koolaid but i do pay attention to much of it.

i sprained my lower back last yr - moaned/grimaced i got strong pain/muscle relaxer drugs & when i took them, i was in heaven. luckily, i didn't get addicted. but in chronic pain, i do now get how it happens. was this a "placebo??"

[nesnman]

You're wasting your money. You can get all you need in food.

[owtang]

nesnman - yeah, my very fat cousins in MS get ALL they need in all-you-can-eat sitdown buffets. real nutrition. more food does NOT = more health. as a matter of fact, the ONLY scientifically proven way to prolong life & health is caloric restriction. it is very difficult to get all your vits from food unless you devote your life/time to eating organic, good soil, staying on top of ever changing health news (this field is ever-evolving).

**such as pre-surgery, vit C is necessary for healing.

[TELEVISIONARCHIVES]

Both are smart men here. People complain about the cost of prescription drugs. Just look at the money you have to pay the FDA just to have them look at the drug. Then they may or may not approve it. I also agree with Durk on the ponzi scheme that is Social Security.

[nesnman]

The man who introduced Durk and Sandy in the Video Life Extension is now serving time in prison. Dr. Ward Dean MD.

[Soulnik]

Oh, so you're the guy that was his cell mate! We were all wondering.

So what that they met him? Big friggin' deal. That proves nothing.

Gives us something solid to work with here instead slamming these people at every opportunity for no

real good reason.

[nesnman]

I've never been in Prison. Then again, I pay my taxes. Taking Vitamins is a complete waste of money.

[Soulnik]

Reading your ignorant comments is a complete waste of time.

[nesnman]

Ward Dean isn't in Prison?

Sorry but he is.

[Serrapeptase]

Who gives a flying fuck about Ward Dean. Apparently you do!

Your cellmate buddy "Big Bubba" wants you bad nesnman!

[owtang]

nesnman - i see now that you are a complete idiot, or maybe an incomplete idiot. when you get a brain, you should speak. until then, you should shut up and read something about longevity, life extension, nutrition.

i'd hate to see you in 10 or 30 years. you're gonna be pretty unhealthy. you eat a mess of fresh vegetables and power foods to replace the nutrients you could get from pills, do you??

and if your wife becomes pregant, are you NOT going to agree she should take folic acid???

[nesnman]

I bet I look better then Durk Pearson does .

[owtang]

nesnman - & a brazilian supermodel who smokes, does coke, eats hamburgers & pukes it up,looks hotter than me & you & everybody else - so what does THAT has to do with the health of her body.

you can abuse yourself for a long time & look healthy. it catches up. i feel fabulous when i take vitamins, vit B complex & eat well & less sugar. soy sauce makes me feel terrible. food can be poison & food is a word for anything we put in our mouth. many foods should NOT be bought or consumed.

[nesnman]

You sound really juvenile but anyway. When was the last time Durk and Sandy showed themselves to show how they have aged?

[owtang]

nesnam??? yoohoo??? could you please NOT pay your taxes so YOU can go to prison?? you are one of the most boring people alive. you are SO boring, that you should become a televangelist. you love to give your opinions, even when wrong, to the masses, over and over again. WE ARE BORED!!!

[nesnman]

Vitamins are a waste of money

[srod712]

I recently became a huge fan of jerry pournelle...the guy is simply brilliant!

[dmg12345678]

Life Extension isn't going to keep the outside of your bodies looking younger per se but the internal body processes, and vital organs.

Want to look younger,tan,whiten your teeth, botox your forehead 3x year, have radiesse injections to fill in laugh lines once a year, a face lift or CO2 laser resurfacing every 5-10 years,dye your hair from getting gray, keep body fat low,improve your posture.

[Soulnik]

Durk and Sandy currently live in Tonapah, Nevada,

a tiny, high-desert outback town several hours north

of Las Vegas.

NESNMAN: Since you seem so bent on wanting to see

what they LOOK like in 2008, just go pay 'em a visit now that you know exactly where they live.

[nesnman]

So you want me to go visit them?

Why?

They should show themselves to the public. They sell vitamins and talk about Living long but they don't show us what they look like. They have been in hiding for years now. You have to wonder why.

[Soulnik]

Durk and Sandy currently live in Tonapah, Nevada,

a tiny, high-desert outback town several hours north

of Las Vegas.

NESNMAN: Since you seem so bent on wanting to see

what they LOOK like in 2008, just go pay 'em a visit now that you know exactly where they live.

[tribulu]

Has Durk aged? Of course. He only says you could possibly slow it down. The proof of life extension remains to be seen. I've followed alot of his recommendations and formulations and I can say they do what they claim to do. Physically I can do the same things I did twenty five years ago. Durk is one interesting fellow.

[nesnman]

He's aged at a normal rate from what I've seen. And some of the people in his video (Dr. Ward Dean) went to jail for not paying taxes. I'm in great shape. No vitamins . But I do work out everyday. That's the secret to living a long life.

[tribulu]

I would agree that diet and exercise are the foundation of a long life. The use of vitamins, herbs, amino acids, etc. are experimental and the conclusions remain to be seen. I like Pearsons formulations for the way they make me feel. I don't use them for life extension. Ward Dean's tax practices has no bearing regarding his knowledge of health and nutrition, in my opinion.

[nesnman]

I have never taken Vitamins. I believe it's more about making money from supplements for people who say you should take them. And what Ward Dean did by not paying taxes did not help the credibly of Life Extension at all.

[hankpyro]

You really have an animus for durk and company, no? Exercise is important for good health but as a life extender it has some serious limitations.

[nesnman]

Not at all. But both Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw appear to have aged in a normal fashion . Why don't they show themselves anymore? Clint Eastwood looks old as well and he is the "Mr. Smith" in the book they wrote. He has used vitamins for years. I believe its about making money more then extending your life.

[hankpyro]

I'll agree that all the people you mention look pretty close to their biological age. And Eastwood is supposably a maniacal exercise freak. The accomplishments in the field of human life extension are pretty underwhelming so far. But, we are just judging them on a cosmetic basis and cosmetics are probably harder to control than physical health. Regardless of what we do, our cartlidge will grow. Our ears and noses will get larger. Cosmetics will lag behind.

[nesnman]

Durk and Sandy also were involved in some kind of Multi-Level Marketing thing with Vitamins. I think it was called Omni. That also raised a red flag with me. The whole Life Extension movement has some real shady people in it. Ward Dean is one of them. And I believe Durk is having health problems .

[tribulu]

What health problems is Durk having and how do you know this?

[nesnman]

From what I have heard. And don't you think it to be a little strange that they don't show themselves in public anymore? Why? Do they look that bad?

[tribulu]

I never thought they looked good years ago. I"m not hung up on it. I know people who drink, smoke, don't exercise, have no health conciousness, and look good for their age. Are they healthy?

[nesnman]

Smoking and drinking aren't good for you. That's a fact . But the issue is if Vitamins help you . Do they help or do nothing at all. I say they do nothing at all. And to spend that kind of money on them is hard to justify.

[jpowell180]

Your body absolutely needs vitamins and minerals, and many people will scarf down a fast food burger for lunch and won't eat much healthier during their other meals, either.

This means they aren't getting as many vitamins and minerals as they need - that's when a multivitaimin per day can help.

Now, I don't know about taking all these handfuls of supplements, but I do notices a real difference when I take a multi (and it's not a placebo effect, either).

[nesnman]

You need Vitamins but you get them from foods. I hope Obama puts a stop to these scam artists that rip people off with supplements.

[jpowell180]

My point is that most people these days really don't eat right, resulting in a defficiency of the vitamins they need - that's when a multi helps.

[nesnman]

The point I'm trying to make is that Durk and Sandy take Vitamins and from what they say don't exercise at all. The real question is if taking massive amount of supplements help you live longer. Why spend up to $1400 a year on this stuff and find out that it may not work. I don't think it does.

[nesnman]

Not at all. But both Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw appear to have aged in a normal fashion . Why don't they show themselves anymore? Clint Eastwood looks old as well and he is the "Mr. Smith" in the book they wrote. He has used vitamins for years. I believe its about making money more then extending your life.

[owtang]

would you shut up about not paying taxes?? you don't know the story. not paying taxes and life extension are an apple and an orange, so what does your tax comment have to do with anything??

corporations hire lawyers to avoid taxes all the time. there is 15 trillion dollars in offshore trusts and our government allows it.

[newenglandvideo]

What happened to Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw? People I have talked say they are not looking that great. One of the doctors who was involved with them in the past(Ward Dean) went to jail for six counts of tax evasion. I wish they would show themselves so people can see if the life extension program work. Clint Eastwood is on the program but he has aged .

[nesnman]

The Doctor {Ward Dean MD) was in the video that Durk Pearson put out about Life Extension. He is in prison now for Tax fraud of some kind.

[owtang]

nesman - durk & sandy are not w/o their genetic health concerns. they are also not supermodels. they are scientists & don't conform to an idea of beauty. they also may have taken more vits etc than you should take, again, they're into the science of nutrition. durk is a triple major/minor from MIT & sandy is berkeley. i've met them both a few times in nyc & saw her bend a horseshoe (bent a lot) w/ her hands, directly in front of me. remember, physiology NOT beach babe.  not the same thing.

[owtang]

nesnman - why don't you google ward dean and find out who he is and why he is in jail. the story is on the internet. it isn't esoteric.

[nesnman]

I know all about him. If fact, Durk and Sandy put a video about Life Extension and Ward introduced them in the video

[owtang]

nesnman - ok mr nesnman, i'm offering the peace pipe to you. i don't agree with much that you say, but i'm tired of the back and forth. clearly, i've been more sassy than you. i hope i haven't offended you.

anyway, carry on and best wishes in your vitamin and supplement-free future - nina

[nesnman]

Hopefully President Obama will do what I think he will and make VItamins Prescription only. Too many people ripping people off with fake claims.

[Jake1348]

There are pics of Durk from 2001 on Google Images...he's definitely not won the battle against aging.

[nesnman]

I know . And Clint Eastwood looks old .

[owtang]

newenglandvideo

EVERYBODY ages & everybody poops. this is about physiology, not being a brazilian supermodel on rio beach. anti-aging=science/free radical theory of aging. it isn't about being on a top 100 hotties list.

i've followed D&S since '84 & met them in '91. they weren't bathing beauties then or now. who cares?? they're much 2 cool to care about such superficialities. they look more like cool aging hippes/bikers. not vain, wearing thongs, fussing with their hair. comprenez-vous ?

[nesnman]

Clint Eastwood has been on Durks Program for years. Eastwood looks his age today and Durk is still aging. The regimen doesn't work.

[owtang]

nesnman!!!! it's NOT about just looking better!!!! it's about physiology & you can't see that!!! you don't wear free radical damage like a shirt (well, except sun/smoke/environmental damage on skin).

my aunt, 83. has flatly refused vitamins her entire life & now has skin cancer - face. her western dr said sunscreen/vitamin C/multi would dramatically reduce risk of cancer). so now she takes them. i've always used suncreen/vits, am 53 & have the same skin i had at 30. i avoid free radicals.

[owtang]

nesnman - i'm not juvenile but thanks, i'm assuming that in addition to being an authority on nutrition and durk pearson and the reason ward dean went to jail, you're also an armchair analyst.

you're very opinionated and you are annoying on this subject. if you have an ax to grind with D&S, why not just ignore it. i never pay much attention to things i don't like, the world is full of things i love, and i would much prefer to use my precious energy in a +++ direction. please don't email me.

[98transam]

Is he saying that taking Soya Lecithin supplements will help loss in sex drive or something,because i have a bottle of soya lecithin thats 1200mgs but never thought it would do that?..I just thought that the lecithin was for treating cholesterol.

[Soulnik]

Informative video. Life Extensionist Durk Pearson was way ahead of his time.

Thanks, r06u3AP!

[petroc99]

Thanks so much this video. I'm a big fan of Snyder, please add any more you have.

[r06u3AP]

You're quite welcome. Unfortunately, this is the only one I have. If anyone happens to have a copy of the first half of this episode, I'd love to see it!