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enough is enough! youtube has been getting away with abusing users long enough. i just got bulk mailed on appeal that all of the INSTRUMENTALS in my channel "violate community standards!" (not copyrights).
as individuals, youtube can afford to ignore us like the faceless corporation it is, but we WILL have a say if the THOUSANDS of us whose free speech has been violated UNITE!
let's start a class action lawsuit! pass the word, it's time to be heard! fight the conspirators using THEIR methods
this video is a great example of why religion is evil... all you need to do is TELL THE TRUTH to the evil liars that don't want it heard. this video clearly provides evidence to support it's claims yet look at all the negative votes.
religious nuts want to suppress any evidence that makes THEM look bad, all the while spreading hate and pointing fingers at everyone else THEY claim as evil.
i call them hypochristians. if you hate the truth, then you are a lying piece of crap.
Kent Hovind is not exactly a legitimate Creationist. Not only is he wrong scientifically, but his theory is completely different from the biblical account. Venumfanx is not a expert on creation science, just someone wanting to stir up the Youtube Athiest community. Don't you think that attacking Ken Ham and other notable creationists would be more beneficial? Much more chalenging they would be I am sure.
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I've watched plenty of Kent's seminars to know that he doesn't believe he's perfect. He's just as bad as the rest of us...but there is a difference HE believes in the person that came to bring us to perfection HE believes in a person that came to cover the shame and guilt we all have. Not only does Kent believe in the person Christ...he asked Christ to dwell with him. And that he has. Christ said "if they hate me they will hate you" Anyone that hates Kent is fulfilling what Christ said. WOW
alad77---unfortunately The Great Imposter also believes it is OK to lie through his teeth about anything at all,including paying his taxes and his educational credentials-->his ideas relating to the Earth,its' creation,the early conditions on Earth, and so on, are the worst tripe and nonsense ever seen. A website describing much of this can be found under Analysis of Kent Hovind.The Great Imposter knows nothing of science at all--also,christ has never gone anywhere near this slimeball!
Don't quote the bible out of context moron. We don't hate Kent. He is legitimately a bad person who has no qualms about defrauding the government out of OUR taxpayer money. HE can believe all he wants but we KNOW he is a crook and a liar therefore he will pay for his crimes. YOU on the other hand should get off your knees and take Kents balls out of your mouth because if you are going to defend him you might as well defend all criminals some of which would kill you and have sex with your corpse.
I agree no one should try to censor the nay-sayers; we all have our right to our input, whether thoughtful, angry, sarcastic or supportive. Sure it's uncomfortable to have people take pot shots at your work, but you can't force people to believe the truth, it's their choice, and disagreement whether honest or maliciously made-up is inevitable. Trying to censor totally original material is wrong. I havent seen the parody, but if it was censored due to copyright, that's just wrong.
I wonder why the responses to this video are so totally irrelevant to the subject: the removal of non- copyrighted material with claims it is copyrighted.
Commentators should actually view videos before they comment.
k name one that defies a law of nature? This has to like defy a law don't just say something we don't fully understand yet that wont work it has to defy something we do. And god don't say something thats easy to hoax like a bleeding statue.
u should read the bible, consider the fact that killing in any form is a sin. consider god is perfect and kills. Carry on to his ability to not forgive u after u die and how thats also imperfect. Doesn't make sense and u cant tell me it does.
The thing about Religions is there fake they don't make sense nothing has to and u can point out all the flaws of the bible but they wont listen to you.
Even if there looking at undeniable facts they well just say Satin made what ever your using as a lie.
by the way. so far the bible has never been proven wrong, and it was written a long time ago, and the evolutionary theory has been wrong more times to count.
when evolutionists find a theory that is credible then try to do a real debate with facts, none of this arguing stuff
so the earth is still flat and we are the center of the univerce?
so people are geting smaller and there is evadice to prove this?
I bag to differ the bible is wrong all the time and when you find conter information you just deni it. DENI DENI DENI doeint make you right sorry keep worshipng your fluse god
I wonder why back in time things happened all the time all these wonderous marcals, but now that we have the internet and camras the best thing we find is glass stains that look like people.
nowher in the bible say the world was flat or that we are the center of the universe. it actually says just the opposite. the reason the church used to think we were the center, was because that was FACT back then, and the church didn't want to look stupid so they conformed, which was a dumb idea, but some churches say that there are millions of years between the first two verses of the Bible, because they dont want to look stupid, but what they dont know is the Earth is young
Actually, the bible is riddled with stuff implying the Earth is flat, continually bringing up stuff like the "four corners of the Earth", and mentioning that a big monster guards the water edges.
Not to mention that the earth is fixed in space while everything else moves around. You really have to suspend belief when reading the bible because so much of it is ridiculous bullshit that even a young child can refute.
Dude..........When It says the four corners of the earth, its talkin about the farthest points to the North, South, East, Aand West......... And the sea monster thing, which you probably got out of revelation, is talkin about a vision that the apostle had............... That monster symbolizes an evil king I believe.
there are no contradictions... people have pointed these ""contradictions"" and I have pointed out there follies... there is a book called "The Defenders Bible" diproving contradictions.
If you still think that there is contradictions post them, I would love to help
can anybody please tell me what happen after Adan and eve have kids. did those kids have sex with each other to reproduce ( it is obvious that they did ) and how does religion explain that?
you beleive you came from reproducig dirt! when adam and eave had children there were no DNA mutations, so there wouldn't be any problem with there chilren.
People people people, calim down. When he got popped for the tax shit the goverment laid claim to his shit! They did the copyright thing, think about it, what happens to the shit you own when the IRS comes knocking?
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I've looked at many of the videos you've uploaded & I'm trying to find 1 good scientific reason to contradict the intellectual design school of thinking but u haven't given 1. In fact, many of the violations that you claim they are committing, u do yourself..You tend to be very belittling and u speak more out of your anger rather than from science. I'm afraid from a scientific standpoint, your videos are a good waste of time - it's good at feeding people's anger, and lacks any substance.
Wow! You haven't looked very hard! The evidence is displayed very well by Thunderf00t, you just don't want to admit you are clinging to lies and deception by Hovind and his merry men.
Because Kent's an idiotic douchebag delusional enough to stick to his word and never admit he's wrong.
Same goes for Eric.
Neither of them ever liked the law, so it's ironic that both of them assert that atheists don't believe because they don't want to be told what to do.
Oh, something I would've mentioned if I knew about it at the time... was that, CSE ministries has a video which explains their "copyright", which was "made in 2005 and applies to all videos no matter when they were made"... WOW, magically fixed I guess, oh wait, they forgot to edit out of EVERY HOVIND VIDEO BEFOREHAND "not copyrighted"... ah well, they can always go back and edit that... no wait, they can't... not legally. They don't understand, and break the law, and it's our "fault"...
You think a person shouldn't be allowed to retract his words? Why don't you just sit there shouting 'wanker', it would make about as much sense, and probably make your irrational God hating heart feel better than the irrational ill-researched guff you write. COPYRIGHT LAW DOES NOT DEPEND ON STATEMENTS OF COPYRIGHT. Why can't any of you hatemongers get any of your facts straight, oh right, because you have to avoid God, and he's everywhere.
"COPYRIGHT LAW DOES NOT DEPEND ON STATEMENTS OF COPYRIGHT"
Yes it does. You are supposed to copyright a product BEFORE you release it, otherwise you have no control over what happens to it (legally).
That aside, you picked the "Hovind side" which is, basically "what I assume about the law is the truth of the law"... their "copyright statement" is hypocritical, illegal, and many other things.
Also, so you know, you are the hatemonger here, not me.
We don't want the death-worshipping centralized state machine telling us what to do, especially when its illegal: there is no federal income tax law. Please, watch The Money Masters and John Tailor Gatto and start to have a clue about how it is that the world is been pulled over our eyes.
This guy is lying on top of lie; unless he was lying about that they are not copyrighted and then tell that they are when they are used by rational folks to counter their arguements.
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Hey Thunderf00t. Cry me a river, ok? This video proves nothing. Maybe aliens or the pope, or the devil, or Hillary Clinton had it removed? What does it matter? Will that stop your evolutionary hate?
sonic8005 doesn't check what he says, a common trait to natural evolution drones, copyright law doesn't depend on statements of copyright, it applies to all intellectual propery you create that you haven't given away contractually.
This is from somebody who claims that "there is no federal income tax law" and makes false claims of copyright laws, then justifies the law breaking of other worshippers because everybody who enforces the laws on that self-righteous lawbreaking, self-deceiving, idiot... as a "God hater".
So, Kent Hovind is your "god" I take it? He isn't? Then stop calling everybody who rightfully attacks him as such.
To clarify, you called me and everybody who attacks Kent Hovind's lies and fraudulent claims, and attacks him for breaking the law, as a "god hater"...
ahhh quote mining, well allow me to retort with some quotes from leading creationist spokesman and devout christian Ray Comfort:
'There is no god!'
and kirk cameron
'you people who believe in god are idiots, your small minded people, you dont think'
See 'why do people laugh at creationists part 9' for the video.
Really mmem, if the best way u have to criticize something u dont understand is to be intellectually dishonest, why do u think noone takes u seriously?
'No wonder the Americans won the war over you British!'
OMG that your defense of creationism!
Well allow me to retort, 'that an interesting thing to say from a man from a country so undereducated it has to hire its ivy league scientific researchers from countries like GB, cos they are not good enough to produce them themselves'
Maybe u should stick to lying mach, its far nearer your moral mark.
and yeah, much though u might not like it, your disbelief in evolution puts u as the laughing stock of the world. This means that u do not accept scientific principals established over 150 yrs ago, that puts your scientific education as just out of the dark ages, its amazing u dont still think the world is flat, immovable and at the center of the universe!
It's funny to read some of these arguments, from BOTH sides of the evolution/creationism debate. As a biochemist, i without a shred of doubt believe in evolution. Keep up the good work, Thunderf00t, nearly everything you say has good grounds... maybe a couple of things in your pt.11 of that series i question, but you've done a great job educating (i hope) people.
Systematic abuse of the system, is exactly what you are doing, to slander some one is an abuse of copyright, by exploiting wrongly, misleading, or any form of deceptive practice...
Im sorry your sorry ass feels so much guilt if God is real, must be a reason.... and its your right, so keep it to yourself.... don't lie about others to attempt a justification of your own wrong doing...
LMAO @ THEE! Ya the worlds a paranoid conspiricy against creationists!!! Everyones out to get them, the lawyers, the scientists, the 'brainwashed', people from other religions, aliens, and of course elvis.
Hovind and his wife were both rightfully sent down for tax evasion and not paying the best part of 1mn bux in tax on the basis that 'everything i own belongs to god'. LMAO, what a retard!
It's only slander if what they say regarding someone is not true. What he has said is 100% true and, therefore, not slander. Also, slander and copyright laws have nothing to do with each other. Also, not only is it true, but he even provides proof. Nothing he has said has been wrong or deceptive. Go look up his claims if you do not believe me.
Couldnt agreee more! Ive seen some of this "ThunderCrap" guys videos and iv e seen the originals. Funny how lotts of it is edited to fit the lie he wants to spread. Either way youll see in the end.
Now go ahead come up with a joke...you might inspire me!!HA HA HA!
Personally i would have been happy if the court had accepted that everything registered in hovinds name etc was declared belonging to god, cos god talked to me this morning, and said hovind was a douche and that all the stuff registered in hovinds name should be mine. Damn, I guess even god thinks hovind should be in jail, better add him and the fake moon landings to your 'evolution' conspiracy.
Copyright and slander are two totaly different things...
Hovind was falsy tried and convicted...
That same set of rules apply to you if you hire some kid to mow your lawn, he agrees to a set amount and you pay him, and if he does not pay the tax, he breaks the law not you. That "lawn mower" was paid $47k to lie under oath.
According to your vid doc, everyones a sinner, so u shouldnt trust anyone. But ya, scientists are just about the most honest and trustworthy bunch of people you will find. In science, its all about discovering and sharing stuff. Anyone who gets caught falsifying stuff in science has just ended his career.
However religious sort are notorious for their depravity. Pedophile priest, spanish inquisition, cruisades, witch burning... ya, thats some lord this jesus of your!
Sigh Doc, so u r another of those 'I censor the comments' types. Dont worry, its christian thing...
Evidently 'gods message' can only be heard through the tools of totalitarian dictatorships.
But sure, I love the way u pray to a god out of fear he will torture you. Not only can u not distinguish fantasy from reality, you cant even have fun delusions. I mean who would fantasise about a sadistic tyrant god waiting to torture u if u slip up?
Kent beleives GOD CREATED EARTH. More people have lied to suport evolution than creation. Why would they do that? This is why, they don't want to beleive in God because that means there not in control of there lives, and it means that they are sinners on there way to hell. Well guess what, we're in the last days, antichrist is coming. Get on Gods side, his is the one going to heaven. And if your not on his side, your on saten's, and he's going to hell.
How utterly pathetic! No one has lied to support evolution. The facts are out there to be discovered. The very nature of the scientific method precludes personal bias. You simply cannot say that evolutionists twist things to fit their own needs. Kent Hovind is a liar and his videos show how nonsensical his arguments are.
You've been taught to live in absolute fear that if you don't believe, you'll burn with "Saten". You must be terrified? This is what your god wants?
i don't understand why people get so mad when we profess our faith.if they don't believe that there is a god or at least think there might be why waste so much of there time arguing about it?keep the faith and hopefully they will come around.
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People in the YouTube community need to know that Cheryl Shuman has been viciously cyberstalked and bullied by John David Briley and his team of cyberstalkers and had years of her work destroyed as a result of false DMCA complaints.
According to what i can find on the web, Cheryl Shuman got the best part of 1000 accounts banned from youtube for making threats and publishing peoples personal info. Thats pretty weak.
RRS and rabidape got reinstated as the DMCA complaints filed were bullhit.
However I fid it curious that shumans account isnt reistated even though your name is shuman wins and your account says u r not shuman?
cheryl shuman was the one who filed the false dmca's. none of her videos were removed due to dmca's- false or otherwise. evilprinceludvig4 is right- she was suspended over 900 times because she violated youtube's terms of service.
Comments and disputes regarding the origin of the world are so inane. We should be concentrating on the here and now. The big bang's done; maybe there were multiple big bangs, who knows? None of us were there; were all here now, though. Like the man said: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.
heres the differencem I am forced to financially support your school, you don't have to support my church, so you need me to propogate your beliefs I don't need you.
Listen m public education is dumbing down american kids with or with out religious support. In every measurment made teh trend is towards ignorance and kaos. You really need to look more at facts not opinions.
Your so blinded, I plead with oyu for your own sake, seek him you will find him.
I'm not blinded! YOU'RE the one who believes there's actually a sky god up there somewhere who's actually going to help you out, yet no evidence of it exists, and not one thing on Earth can be assigned to its doing. I don't need to find your god - YOU do! I'd rather children be taught FACT and reasoning than supernaturalism and unsubstantiated tales. I'd rather be encouraged to discover than being told I'll burn in hell for not believing. Religious indoctrination is child abuse, and wrong.
"heres the differencem I am forced to financially support your school, you don't have to support my church, so you need me to propogate your beliefs I don't need you."
but evolution is idiot that is the point so shut the fuck up about what u dont know about. evolution is a religion that our tax dollars pay to teach so figure it out.
"but evolution is idiot that is the point so shut the fuck up about what u dont know about. evolution is a religion that our tax dollars pay to teach so figure it out."
Either you don't know what constitutes a religion, or you don't know what evolution is.
Evolution has stacks of evidence for it, while religion traditionally has next to none. That's the difference.
However, that's not the point here at all. The point, as Thunderf00t so rightly points out, is that CSE has been flagrantly operating a campaign of censorship which they had no right to do. Either what they did is wrong, or you can rip whichever amendment relates to free speech out of the constitution.
BOO-HOO you big baby! I bet you could care less about the system, you just want an excuse to bash Kent Hovind. I bet the only reason you guys say he's stupid and call him a fraud is because none of you guys can truly dispute him. And by the way, Kent Hovind wants you to use his videos to spread the truth, not to take his words out of context and use his own tapes against him.
Anyone with a high school education can dispute Hovind's lies.
We bash him because he's a religiously insane liar with qualms about spreading utter bullshit to those too young or dumb to know any better.
Copyright law is copyright law. Once something is in the public domain you DO NOT get to renig just because someone uses your work in a way you dislike. That is highly dishonest, and so are you for supporting this kind of tactic.
I guess you believe Hovind's lies, then? So you believe the Earth was surrounded by a layer of ice three feet thick? And that's where the global flood came from? God (not the sun...) melted the ice and flooded the world? And the ice isn't there anymore, so God could only use that threat once...
I didn't thumb you down, and I was responding to captaincel, too. Frikkin' YT's comments system needs sorting out. Sometimes your replies are in date order, sometimes they're in some random order and it makes it look like they're responses to other comments! Grrr. Apologies if it looks this way. I agree with you, daz.
You know what is funny is a scientist who goes by evolution and species proably never even read the bible as actually reading the old testamemt let me know how many scentist claim they have read the bible wow were you so wise that you knew what the bible was about? Stand by for my video on your theory.
the only ones who are confused who go by scientists about species and big bang theory.
Trying to tell you there are other ways to believe but does not a big bang person theory want you to believe that every thing was created by a big bang are they not trying to force there theory on people? How about the species thing is this not the work of the hands of flesh then the hands of The God who created you?
"Evolution an observed fact? What about it has been observed?"
Changes in the genetic make-up of species are observed facts, that's evolution. A scientific way to say that is "a change in allele frequency in a gene pool".
Speciation has been observed too, here are a few examples:
talkorigins . org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
talkorigins . org/faqs/speciation.html
A well-known one is strain K712 flavobacterium , that evolved the ability to digest nylon (which was invented in 1935).
Those are adaptations, or micro-evolution. It is true that they have been proven to happen, but that is not the same as evolution as defined by evolutionists. It isn't a package deal, and proving one doesn't prove all of the definition. Besides evolution is supposed to take millions+, not a few decades or else The Earth would be aged a lot younger, wouldn't it?
Ah, you use the unscientific creationist definition. Why not stick with the one actual scietists use, where microevolution is evolution below the species level?
"as evolution as defined by evolutionists"
You mean scientists? Why wouldn't we use their definition since we're talking about science?
"The Earth would be aged a lot younger, wouldn't it?"
Hovind never had an accredited degree. Without an accredited degree he was never a real science teacher. He is a liar that was erroneously misinforming impressionable minds with nonsense such as his "ice sheet protecting the world" myth.
I guess the copyright statement on this video doesn't agree with creacionism, since it evolved and adapted to the surrounding environment, perhaps by the means of artificial selection.
"Fact?" "Observed?" No, that's part of the problem with evolution. It has never been seen to happen in modern times, that's why we look for fossils. Adaptations happen yes, but has a species ever created a mutation other then it's own species? A frog creates some sort of frog everytime, so why would "prehistoric" creatures create different types of animals?
yeah, also, to digress back to origins of laws: Before the Bible was assembled at the Niceane council, before Rome, Before the Greeks, before Egypt (kemet), we find the Social Contract. It's understood that humans work better as a team. Social coheasion(sp) is a tool, just like a language. No language is "right"; however, some have broader vocab. and allow for more accurate and effective communication
If you are using THEIR material in ways THEY deem unfit, and they complain to YouTube (just like anybody else can with the videos he/she create), how is that an "abuse of system"?
Wow, youtube evidently disagree with you 'peculiar' interpretation of copyright law as they have reinstated all the vids on which a counter DMCA was filed.
But just so u know, once you have declared something to be in the public domain, you have no rights whatsoever as to how its used.
Further the reason youtube limits u to 10mis is this is the max taken to be used for 'fair use'.
I don't think CSE waived their copyright so that someone can take things out of context. I think it would be taking advantage of their generosity in bad faith.
All I hear from people like you is that all his creationism teachings are lies, but yet you never say which part of what he preaches are lies? Name some please.
and to qoute myself ... "Please tell me what lies he has told in his videos concerning EVOLUTION/CREATION?"
"What lies concerning evolution/creation has he told in his videos?"
It'd be tough to find many things that he is truthful about, in his videos. Hovind lies about science, lies about what the evolutionary theory claims, distorts and cherry picks evidence, and pretty much uses every dirty trick in the book. Search YouTube for "Why do people laugh at creationists?" for a great series of videos that pick apart Hovind's claims one by one.
...A note: the series addresses Hovind's arguments both as presented by Hovind in his videos, and as presented by venomfangx, an infamous Young Earth creationist on YouTube, who rivals Hovind in dishonesty and lack of intellectual integrity, and who gets all his arguments directly from Hovind's videos... so they are all Hovind's arguments.
"Still, you people only claim that he lies, but you never say what exactly he has lied about!!!!????"
I JUST POINTED OUT TO YOU A VIDEO SERIES THAT LISTS AND EXPOSES, ONE BY ONE, LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE. In detail. Go watch it. It's by the same YouTuber as this video is by, so you can find it even through his profile. Or in my favorites. Watch it, and you'll not only see his lies about science, but also the detailed explanations of why they are untrue.
ya, um i just watched the first video and a simple google search proved many of what the evolutionist said wrong......go read my comment on the first video.
Anyone else have some SCIENTIFIC PROOF of the evolution? Cos those videos dont prove anything.
(Seems that YouTube lost my reply, so I'm rewriting this) First, care to be more specific? What specifically was wrong about what was said in the first part of the video series I pointed you to? And where did you get your information? From an actual site on astronomy, that relies on sound, peer reviewed material, or from a young earth creationist site that gives not a single reference to anything peer reviewed, because nothing in science supports their absurd claims?
Not done on wikipedia? Now thats such a stupid statement. I checked my facts on those pages, doos. So maybe i am arrogant, but thats still not proving your evolution THEORY is it. And by the way, in an affidavit by hovind he says where he taught and everything. And this was verified by the court. Wanna call them liars too?
Science isn't done on wikipedia. Science is done by scientists who perform do research and publish their findings in peer-reviewed academic journals. And did you check the sources?
And why don't you tell us what your "facts" are?
"thats still not proving your evolution THEORY is it."
And again, science doesn't deal with proof outside of mathematics. No theory is ever proven.
"... to this much larger church and school there, so in 1981 we moved to Longview, Texas, where I took position teaching science and math at Longview Christian Academy and at Texas Baptist College..."
"In 1986 we moved the family to Fairfield, California, where I became Assistant Pastor and principal at Calvary Baptist Christian School as well as a science teacher. After three years there, in 1989 we moved to Pensacola, Florida for my wife to finisher her music degree while I devoted my time to beginning Creation Science Evangelism"
Not done on wikipedia? Now thats such a stupid statement. I checked my facts on those pages, doos. So maybe i am arrogant, but thats still not proving your evolution THEORY is it. And by the way, in an affidavit by hovind he says where he taught and everything. And this was verified by the court. Wanna call them liars too?
As for "Scientific proof" of evolution, here's something I wrote after getting tired of the utterly ridiculous "no evidence for evolution" mantra repeated by Creationists on YouTube: h t t p : / / mightytiny . freepgs . com / Common_decent . pdf (remove the spaces)
That's just a tiny, tiny part of the total evidence, but even alone it is more than sufficient to show beyond a REASONABLE doubt that living things on Earth share common ancestors.
We don't know what chemicals were abundant on Earth before there was life, but among the possibilities are: water, ammonia, carbon dioxide and methane. Put these simple compounds in a jar. Simulate primordial lightning (elec sparks). After a few weeks, you'll see a weak brown liquid containing molecules more complex than those put in originally; amino acids are present. And, importantly, purines and pyrimidines - the building blocks of DNA.
you still can't explain where teh original chemicals came from, when are evolutionist going to offer how the soup came into existance in the first place. Your going to have to take your model back to before there was nothing to whats evolved today.
Evolution doesn't deal with the origin of life, it deals with the variety of life. I'm just saying that we can see evolution in the lab. Put those chemicals together, add some lightning, that's what happens. Lightning has been present on the Earth for billions of years.
You're simply assuming "Ha! Evolutionists cannot answer a different question! God did it!", which is clearly nonsense.
First comment in 9 months. WOOT
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
Kent Hovind is a cunt.
Birdieupon 1 year ago
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TIME4LOGIC 1 year ago
enough is enough! youtube has been getting away with abusing users long enough. i just got bulk mailed on appeal that all of the INSTRUMENTALS in my channel "violate community standards!" (not copyrights).
as individuals, youtube can afford to ignore us like the faceless corporation it is, but we WILL have a say if the THOUSANDS of us whose free speech has been violated UNITE!
let's start a class action lawsuit! pass the word, it's time to be heard! fight the conspirators using THEIR methods
djgambitron 1 year ago
this video is a great example of why religion is evil... all you need to do is TELL THE TRUTH to the evil liars that don't want it heard. this video clearly provides evidence to support it's claims yet look at all the negative votes.
religious nuts want to suppress any evidence that makes THEM look bad, all the while spreading hate and pointing fingers at everyone else THEY claim as evil.
i call them hypochristians. if you hate the truth, then you are a lying piece of crap.
djgambitron 1 year ago
Only people who are not taking the videos and cutting them up to make them say things they didn't say can use the videos.
Basically only Christians can use the videos.
False claims of tax evasion.
Look up Willaim Cooper on taxes.
Camel76 1 year ago
Kent Hovind is not exactly a legitimate Creationist. Not only is he wrong scientifically, but his theory is completely different from the biblical account. Venumfanx is not a expert on creation science, just someone wanting to stir up the Youtube Athiest community. Don't you think that attacking Ken Ham and other notable creationists would be more beneficial? Much more chalenging they would be I am sure.
MrSMS1976 2 years ago
just wanted to celebrate the 2yr ANV of this video!!! KEEP KICKING ASS TF!!!
Dozerthedj 2 years ago
I'll bet someone is going around pretending to be someone from CSE to create a false flag allegation.
CSE publishes links to a lot of these same "debates" that when viewed in their entirety, tend embarrass Hovind's critics.
sfbmod 2 years ago
WOW
clydesdale1234 2 years ago
"Jesus is coming back to a city near you."
I'm supposed to worry that your imaginary friend Jesus is going to come and get me? Are you sure it isn't the boogeyman or evil leprechauns?
ColoradoMikeyS 2 years ago 7
kent hovind is to christianity what anna kournikova is to tennis.
huge followings, but no actual substance
sidexwalk 2 years ago
Young Earth Creationists are a minority within The Church though Kent and co. would claim that if you don't agree with him you're an Athiest.
usernameofnobody 2 years ago
"kent hovind is to christianity what anna kournikova is to tennis..."
A pair of tits and a racket. Agreed.
Boy192 2 years ago
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Kent Hovind is not a bad person he just make some poor decisions. You can't mess with the government and think you're going to win.
Grimpmann 2 years ago
No, he is actually a bad person. He grew rich by spreading lies and disinformation.
ShadowPa1adin 2 years ago 13
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I've watched plenty of Kent's seminars to know that he doesn't believe he's perfect. He's just as bad as the rest of us...but there is a difference HE believes in the person that came to bring us to perfection HE believes in a person that came to cover the shame and guilt we all have. Not only does Kent believe in the person Christ...he asked Christ to dwell with him. And that he has. Christ said "if they hate me they will hate you" Anyone that hates Kent is fulfilling what Christ said. WOW
alad77 3 years ago
alad77---unfortunately The Great Imposter also believes it is OK to lie through his teeth about anything at all,including paying his taxes and his educational credentials-->his ideas relating to the Earth,its' creation,the early conditions on Earth, and so on, are the worst tripe and nonsense ever seen. A website describing much of this can be found under Analysis of Kent Hovind.The Great Imposter knows nothing of science at all--also,christ has never gone anywhere near this slimeball!
jackalmate 3 years ago
Don't quote the bible out of context moron. We don't hate Kent. He is legitimately a bad person who has no qualms about defrauding the government out of OUR taxpayer money. HE can believe all he wants but we KNOW he is a crook and a liar therefore he will pay for his crimes. YOU on the other hand should get off your knees and take Kents balls out of your mouth because if you are going to defend him you might as well defend all criminals some of which would kill you and have sex with your corpse.
madzyzome 3 years ago
Right on man. God Bless you
superman9877 3 years ago
I agree no one should try to censor the nay-sayers; we all have our right to our input, whether thoughtful, angry, sarcastic or supportive. Sure it's uncomfortable to have people take pot shots at your work, but you can't force people to believe the truth, it's their choice, and disagreement whether honest or maliciously made-up is inevitable. Trying to censor totally original material is wrong. I havent seen the parody, but if it was censored due to copyright, that's just wrong.
barmillion 3 years ago 5
"The Bible is useful for one purpose only, as a convenient package for perfectly thin ass wipe."
-Kent Hovind
ColoradoMikeyS 3 years ago 3
Hahaha The Hovind family probably hates you tube now! Pack of religious freaks.
WELL DONE TO YOU TUBE USERS FOR EXPOSING THE CENSORSHIP!
chrishibbert20 3 years ago 18
they probably founded the godtube site.
Maracachucho 3 years ago
brillant
brillant sense of humour
shhhhhhhhh
God made adam and eve
and they in turn madetwo sons kane and Able
i think Kane was very Able
as we now have over 6billion people
on plant earth
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Camel76 3 years ago
I wonder why the responses to this video are so totally irrelevant to the subject: the removal of non- copyrighted material with claims it is copyrighted.
Commentators should actually view videos before they comment.
cheechaw 3 years ago 4
k name one that defies a law of nature? This has to like defy a law don't just say something we don't fully understand yet that wont work it has to defy something we do. And god don't say something thats easy to hoax like a bleeding statue.
u should read the bible, consider the fact that killing in any form is a sin. consider god is perfect and kills. Carry on to his ability to not forgive u after u die and how thats also imperfect. Doesn't make sense and u cant tell me it does.
BDMblue 3 years ago
The thing about Religions is there fake they don't make sense nothing has to and u can point out all the flaws of the bible but they wont listen to you.
Even if there looking at undeniable facts they well just say Satin made what ever your using as a lie.
You would have better debate talking to a wall.
BDMblue 3 years ago
by the way. so far the bible has never been proven wrong, and it was written a long time ago, and the evolutionary theory has been wrong more times to count.
when evolutionists find a theory that is credible then try to do a real debate with facts, none of this arguing stuff
Bensworld99 3 years ago
so the earth is still flat and we are the center of the univerce?
so people are geting smaller and there is evadice to prove this?
I bag to differ the bible is wrong all the time and when you find conter information you just deni it. DENI DENI DENI doeint make you right sorry keep worshipng your fluse god
I wonder why back in time things happened all the time all these wonderous marcals, but now that we have the internet and camras the best thing we find is glass stains that look like people.
BDMblue 3 years ago
nowher in the bible say the world was flat or that we are the center of the universe. it actually says just the opposite. the reason the church used to think we were the center, was because that was FACT back then, and the church didn't want to look stupid so they conformed, which was a dumb idea, but some churches say that there are millions of years between the first two verses of the Bible, because they dont want to look stupid, but what they dont know is the Earth is young
Bensworld99 3 years ago
prove it.
BDMblue 3 years ago
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Actually, the bible is riddled with stuff implying the Earth is flat, continually bringing up stuff like the "four corners of the Earth", and mentioning that a big monster guards the water edges.
EikC 3 years ago 3
tell me where.. I would love to read it... sounds cool
Bensworld99 3 years ago
Not to mention that the earth is fixed in space while everything else moves around. You really have to suspend belief when reading the bible because so much of it is ridiculous bullshit that even a young child can refute.
CyrusGuitar 3 years ago 3
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"He sits upon the CIRCLE of the earth" - Isaiah 30. Try again liar
elijahsfire 3 years ago
hmmm funny.
The earth is a spheroid, If looked at from the side (facing the equator) it is oval (due to the forces placed on it by its rotation).
So no circle here bub.
Cowinspace 3 years ago 6
You are an idiot.
aswisshe 3 years ago
You're stupid enough to use the bibble (on purpose) as a science text book? This just shows that society is crumbling dramatically.
wtfguy900 2 years ago
Dude..........When It says the four corners of the earth, its talkin about the farthest points to the North, South, East, Aand West......... And the sea monster thing, which you probably got out of revelation, is talkin about a vision that the apostle had............... That monster symbolizes an evil king I believe.
superman9877 3 years ago
mirraculaous things happen... but are just considered flukes, (which most of the time defy all laws of nature)
Bensworld99 3 years ago
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The Bible proves itself wrong due to contradictions.
gregkahuna1 3 years ago
there are no contradictions... people have pointed these ""contradictions"" and I have pointed out there follies... there is a book called "The Defenders Bible" diproving contradictions.
If you still think that there is contradictions post them, I would love to help
Bensworld99 3 years ago
Bensworld99
"so far the bible has never been proven wrong"
It is the churches responsibility to prove that the bible is true, not sciences job to prove that it is wrong.
you clearly don't understand how the scientific community works.
dagrynch 3 years ago 7
can anybody please tell me what happen after Adan and eve have kids. did those kids have sex with each other to reproduce ( it is obvious that they did ) and how does religion explain that?
agntsmth77 3 years ago
you beleive you came from reproducig dirt! when adam and eave had children there were no DNA mutations, so there wouldn't be any problem with there chilren.
Bensworld99 3 years ago
People people people, calim down. When he got popped for the tax shit the goverment laid claim to his shit! They did the copyright thing, think about it, what happens to the shit you own when the IRS comes knocking?
Dont blame him, just trying to be the system.
TheCRONICles 3 years ago
Fucking losers get a life. Seriously.
lorenzo8500 3 years ago
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I've looked at many of the videos you've uploaded & I'm trying to find 1 good scientific reason to contradict the intellectual design school of thinking but u haven't given 1. In fact, many of the violations that you claim they are committing, u do yourself..You tend to be very belittling and u speak more out of your anger rather than from science. I'm afraid from a scientific standpoint, your videos are a good waste of time - it's good at feeding people's anger, and lacks any substance.
joshuajosephy 3 years ago
Intelligent Design needs to make a falsifiable statement before anyone bothers to contradict it.
JaredTheTwitch 3 years ago 7
Wow! You haven't looked very hard! The evidence is displayed very well by Thunderf00t, you just don't want to admit you are clinging to lies and deception by Hovind and his merry men.
PanamaJackson 3 years ago 8
He cites a great deal of scientific evidence throughout all his videos. I suggest you look harder while watching them.
Abazigal 3 years ago 6
Hovind is such a bastard. The world is a better place now that he's in lockdown.
Splatador 3 years ago
"never see the very process we profess to study" -that says it all... yet...? Ignorance?!
T2seeker 4 years ago
Hmmh, I wonder why they are so afraid of opposing arguements?
supersmash43 4 years ago
Because Kent's an idiotic douchebag delusional enough to stick to his word and never admit he's wrong.
Same goes for Eric.
Neither of them ever liked the law, so it's ironic that both of them assert that atheists don't believe because they don't want to be told what to do.
sonic8005 3 years ago
same goes for ken ham, venomfangx etc, etc...
999VINCENT666 3 years ago
Oh, something I would've mentioned if I knew about it at the time... was that, CSE ministries has a video which explains their "copyright", which was "made in 2005 and applies to all videos no matter when they were made"... WOW, magically fixed I guess, oh wait, they forgot to edit out of EVERY HOVIND VIDEO BEFOREHAND "not copyrighted"... ah well, they can always go back and edit that... no wait, they can't... not legally. They don't understand, and break the law, and it's our "fault"...
sonic8005 3 years ago
You think a person shouldn't be allowed to retract his words? Why don't you just sit there shouting 'wanker', it would make about as much sense, and probably make your irrational God hating heart feel better than the irrational ill-researched guff you write. COPYRIGHT LAW DOES NOT DEPEND ON STATEMENTS OF COPYRIGHT. Why can't any of you hatemongers get any of your facts straight, oh right, because you have to avoid God, and he's everywhere.
stupidtreehugger 3 years ago
"COPYRIGHT LAW DOES NOT DEPEND ON STATEMENTS OF COPYRIGHT"
Yes it does. You are supposed to copyright a product BEFORE you release it, otherwise you have no control over what happens to it (legally).
That aside, you picked the "Hovind side" which is, basically "what I assume about the law is the truth of the law"... their "copyright statement" is hypocritical, illegal, and many other things.
Also, so you know, you are the hatemonger here, not me.
sonic8005 3 years ago 2
We don't want the death-worshipping centralized state machine telling us what to do, especially when its illegal: there is no federal income tax law. Please, watch The Money Masters and John Tailor Gatto and start to have a clue about how it is that the world is been pulled over our eyes.
stupidtreehugger 3 years ago
"there is no federal income tax law"
That's bullshit if I ever heard it.
sonic8005 3 years ago 2
This guy is lying on top of lie; unless he was lying about that they are not copyrighted and then tell that they are when they are used by rational folks to counter their arguements.
supersmash43 4 years ago
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Hey Thunderf00t. Cry me a river, ok? This video proves nothing. Maybe aliens or the pope, or the devil, or Hillary Clinton had it removed? What does it matter? Will that stop your evolutionary hate?
xplan4u 4 years ago
xplan4u, "CSE ministries" Is NOT run by the devil, the pope, or Hillary.
"evolutionary hate"? Dude, these people removed videos ILLEGALLY, and you call it "hate" to say "they must be stopped"? You suck.
sonic8005 3 years ago
you know it. you swallow
xplan4u 3 years ago
sonic8005 doesn't check what he says, a common trait to natural evolution drones, copyright law doesn't depend on statements of copyright, it applies to all intellectual propery you create that you haven't given away contractually.
stupidtreehugger 3 years ago
"sonic8005 doesn't check what he says"
This is from somebody who claims that "there is no federal income tax law" and makes false claims of copyright laws, then justifies the law breaking of other worshippers because everybody who enforces the laws on that self-righteous lawbreaking, self-deceiving, idiot... as a "God hater".
So, Kent Hovind is your "god" I take it? He isn't? Then stop calling everybody who rightfully attacks him as such.
sonic8005 3 years ago
To clarify, you called me and everybody who attacks Kent Hovind's lies and fraudulent claims, and attacks him for breaking the law, as a "god hater"...
sonic8005 3 years ago
ahhh quote mining, well allow me to retort with some quotes from leading creationist spokesman and devout christian Ray Comfort:
'There is no god!'
and kirk cameron
'you people who believe in god are idiots, your small minded people, you dont think'
See 'why do people laugh at creationists part 9' for the video.
Really mmem, if the best way u have to criticize something u dont understand is to be intellectually dishonest, why do u think noone takes u seriously?
Thunderf00t 4 years ago
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Once again you reach, but not far enough.
No wonder the Americans won the war over you British!
machinator1971 4 years ago
'No wonder the Americans won the war over you British!'
OMG that your defense of creationism!
Well allow me to retort, 'that an interesting thing to say from a man from a country so undereducated it has to hire its ivy league scientific researchers from countries like GB, cos they are not good enough to produce them themselves'
Maybe u should stick to lying mach, its far nearer your moral mark.
Thunderf00t 4 years ago
Have I heard your voice somewhere before?; you sound familiar.
gint 4 years ago
and yeah, much though u might not like it, your disbelief in evolution puts u as the laughing stock of the world. This means that u do not accept scientific principals established over 150 yrs ago, that puts your scientific education as just out of the dark ages, its amazing u dont still think the world is flat, immovable and at the center of the universe!
Thunderf00t 4 years ago
It's funny to read some of these arguments, from BOTH sides of the evolution/creationism debate. As a biochemist, i without a shred of doubt believe in evolution. Keep up the good work, Thunderf00t, nearly everything you say has good grounds... maybe a couple of things in your pt.11 of that series i question, but you've done a great job educating (i hope) people.
nicsthomp 4 years ago 2
Systematic abuse of the system, is exactly what you are doing, to slander some one is an abuse of copyright, by exploiting wrongly, misleading, or any form of deceptive practice...
Im sorry your sorry ass feels so much guilt if God is real, must be a reason.... and its your right, so keep it to yourself.... don't lie about others to attempt a justification of your own wrong doing...
theeProphet 4 years ago
LMAO @ THEE! Ya the worlds a paranoid conspiricy against creationists!!! Everyones out to get them, the lawyers, the scientists, the 'brainwashed', people from other religions, aliens, and of course elvis.
Hovind and his wife were both rightfully sent down for tax evasion and not paying the best part of 1mn bux in tax on the basis that 'everything i own belongs to god'. LMAO, what a retard!
Thunderf00t 4 years ago
It's only slander if what they say regarding someone is not true. What he has said is 100% true and, therefore, not slander. Also, slander and copyright laws have nothing to do with each other. Also, not only is it true, but he even provides proof. Nothing he has said has been wrong or deceptive. Go look up his claims if you do not believe me.
AngusYoung93 4 years ago 2
YoungAnus, nothing said was true. Besides I just wanted to make fun of your stupid ID name.
machinator1971 4 years ago
On more than a few occasions Hovind has lied and made false claims against evolution. If you don't believe me see extant dodo's vids.
sweatytoothmadman 4 years ago
Couldnt agreee more! Ive seen some of this "ThunderCrap" guys videos and iv e seen the originals. Funny how lotts of it is edited to fit the lie he wants to spread. Either way youll see in the end.
Now go ahead come up with a joke...you might inspire me!!HA HA HA!
j316music 4 years ago
Also some evolutionists seemed to have had connections to a court case they wanted to keep him out of, so they tied him up in trials of his own.
theeProphet 4 years ago
Personally i would have been happy if the court had accepted that everything registered in hovinds name etc was declared belonging to god, cos god talked to me this morning, and said hovind was a douche and that all the stuff registered in hovinds name should be mine. Damn, I guess even god thinks hovind should be in jail, better add him and the fake moon landings to your 'evolution' conspiracy.
Thunderf00t 4 years ago 3
What is this based on?
sweatytoothmadman 4 years ago
Copyright and slander are two totaly different things...
Hovind was falsy tried and convicted...
That same set of rules apply to you if you hire some kid to mow your lawn, he agrees to a set amount and you pay him, and if he does not pay the tax, he breaks the law not you. That "lawn mower" was paid $47k to lie under oath.
theeProphet 4 years ago
If evolution has 'stacks' of evidence that kent hovind hasnt slamed i want to hear about it,but you dont
ungerwear44 4 years ago
Kent is in prison. Ha Ha Ha. What a jerkoff.
tahoejoe420 4 years ago
And you expect me to believe YOU?????
HA! WHatever!
Jesus is LORD!
doctorh2005 4 years ago
According to your vid doc, everyones a sinner, so u shouldnt trust anyone. But ya, scientists are just about the most honest and trustworthy bunch of people you will find. In science, its all about discovering and sharing stuff. Anyone who gets caught falsifying stuff in science has just ended his career.
However religious sort are notorious for their depravity. Pedophile priest, spanish inquisition, cruisades, witch burning... ya, thats some lord this jesus of your!
Thunderf00t 4 years ago
Sigh Doc, so u r another of those 'I censor the comments' types. Dont worry, its christian thing...
Evidently 'gods message' can only be heard through the tools of totalitarian dictatorships.
But sure, I love the way u pray to a god out of fear he will torture you. Not only can u not distinguish fantasy from reality, you cant even have fun delusions. I mean who would fantasise about a sadistic tyrant god waiting to torture u if u slip up?
Thunderf00t 4 years ago
Lmao good point
pimpsoldier0 4 years ago
if you don't believe him go look at the evidence or are you going to clam that there is no evendence.
kveldulfrrr 4 years ago
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Kent beleives GOD CREATED EARTH. More people have lied to suport evolution than creation. Why would they do that? This is why, they don't want to beleive in God because that means there not in control of there lives, and it means that they are sinners on there way to hell. Well guess what, we're in the last days, antichrist is coming. Get on Gods side, his is the one going to heaven. And if your not on his side, your on saten's, and he's going to hell.
GodsDaughter153 4 years ago
How utterly pathetic! No one has lied to support evolution. The facts are out there to be discovered. The very nature of the scientific method precludes personal bias. You simply cannot say that evolutionists twist things to fit their own needs. Kent Hovind is a liar and his videos show how nonsensical his arguments are.
You've been taught to live in absolute fear that if you don't believe, you'll burn with "Saten". You must be terrified? This is what your god wants?
darkpawuk 4 years ago
i don't understand why people get so mad when we profess our faith.if they don't believe that there is a god or at least think there might be why waste so much of there time arguing about it?keep the faith and hopefully they will come around.
basszack 4 years ago
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People in the YouTube community need to know that Cheryl Shuman has been viciously cyberstalked and bullied by John David Briley and his team of cyberstalkers and had years of her work destroyed as a result of false DMCA complaints.
CherylShumanWins 4 years ago
According to what i can find on the web, Cheryl Shuman got the best part of 1000 accounts banned from youtube for making threats and publishing peoples personal info. Thats pretty weak.
RRS and rabidape got reinstated as the DMCA complaints filed were bullhit.
However I fid it curious that shumans account isnt reistated even though your name is shuman wins and your account says u r not shuman?
evilprinceludvic4 4 years ago 6
cheryl shuman was the one who filed the false dmca's. none of her videos were removed due to dmca's- false or otherwise. evilprinceludvig4 is right- she was suspended over 900 times because she violated youtube's terms of service.
CherylSockman90210 4 years ago 4
Comments and disputes regarding the origin of the world are so inane. We should be concentrating on the here and now. The big bang's done; maybe there were multiple big bangs, who knows? None of us were there; were all here now, though. Like the man said: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.
Jbear9 4 years ago
heres the differencem I am forced to financially support your school, you don't have to support my church, so you need me to propogate your beliefs I don't need you.
danmusser 4 years ago
If education were left solely to people who believe in religion, indoctrination would retard our race more than it has so far.
darkpawuk 4 years ago
Listen m public education is dumbing down american kids with or with out religious support. In every measurment made teh trend is towards ignorance and kaos. You really need to look more at facts not opinions.
Your so blinded, I plead with oyu for your own sake, seek him you will find him.
danmusser 4 years ago
I'm not blinded! YOU'RE the one who believes there's actually a sky god up there somewhere who's actually going to help you out, yet no evidence of it exists, and not one thing on Earth can be assigned to its doing. I don't need to find your god - YOU do! I'd rather children be taught FACT and reasoning than supernaturalism and unsubstantiated tales. I'd rather be encouraged to discover than being told I'll burn in hell for not believing. Religious indoctrination is child abuse, and wrong.
darkpawuk 4 years ago
"heres the differencem I am forced to financially support your school, you don't have to support my church, so you need me to propogate your beliefs I don't need you."
Science is not a system of belief, moron.
smaakjeks 4 years ago 3
but evolution is idiot that is the point so shut the fuck up about what u dont know about. evolution is a religion that our tax dollars pay to teach so figure it out.
radax1 4 years ago
"but evolution is idiot that is the point so shut the fuck up about what u dont know about. evolution is a religion that our tax dollars pay to teach so figure it out."
Either you don't know what constitutes a religion, or you don't know what evolution is.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
Evolution has stacks of evidence for it, while religion traditionally has next to none. That's the difference.
However, that's not the point here at all. The point, as Thunderf00t so rightly points out, is that CSE has been flagrantly operating a campaign of censorship which they had no right to do. Either what they did is wrong, or you can rip whichever amendment relates to free speech out of the constitution.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
I think that radax1 was being sarcastic. Seriously, nobody would make a comment sounding so ironically stupid.
demitrieaux 4 years ago
Creation Science...what an interesting oxymoron.
StatusMalus 4 years ago 4
BOO-HOO you big baby! I bet you could care less about the system, you just want an excuse to bash Kent Hovind. I bet the only reason you guys say he's stupid and call him a fraud is because none of you guys can truly dispute him. And by the way, Kent Hovind wants you to use his videos to spread the truth, not to take his words out of context and use his own tapes against him.
captaincel 4 years ago
Anyone with a high school education can dispute Hovind's lies.
We bash him because he's a religiously insane liar with qualms about spreading utter bullshit to those too young or dumb to know any better.
Copyright law is copyright law. Once something is in the public domain you DO NOT get to renig just because someone uses your work in a way you dislike. That is highly dishonest, and so are you for supporting this kind of tactic.
ephekt420 4 years ago
you must be blind! wake up please.
dazs42020 4 years ago
I guess you believe Hovind's lies, then? So you believe the Earth was surrounded by a layer of ice three feet thick? And that's where the global flood came from? God (not the sun...) melted the ice and flooded the world? And the ice isn't there anymore, so God could only use that threat once...
darkpawuk 4 years ago
my reply was to captainshitface above left... thanks for all the thumbs down though.
dazs42020 4 years ago
I didn't thumb you down, and I was responding to captaincel, too. Frikkin' YT's comments system needs sorting out. Sometimes your replies are in date order, sometimes they're in some random order and it makes it look like they're responses to other comments! Grrr. Apologies if it looks this way. I agree with you, daz.
darkpawuk 4 years ago
tzalgooood! cheers, and down with these creationist fools.
dazs42020 4 years ago
You know what is funny is a scientist who goes by evolution and species proably never even read the bible as actually reading the old testamemt let me know how many scentist claim they have read the bible wow were you so wise that you knew what the bible was about? Stand by for my video on your theory.
Makkoblue 4 years ago
the only ones who are confused who go by scientists about species and big bang theory.
Trying to tell you there are other ways to believe but does not a big bang person theory want you to believe that every thing was created by a big bang are they not trying to force there theory on people? How about the species thing is this not the work of the hands of flesh then the hands of The God who created you?
Makkoblue 4 years ago
"Hovind never taught highschool science, period. He's not even trained to."
You said that and i proved yo wrong.
Evolution an observed fact? What about it has been observed?
piratePE 4 years ago
"Evolution an observed fact? What about it has been observed?"
Changes in the genetic make-up of species are observed facts, that's evolution. A scientific way to say that is "a change in allele frequency in a gene pool".
Speciation has been observed too, here are a few examples:
talkorigins . org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
talkorigins . org/faqs/speciation.html
A well-known one is strain K712 flavobacterium , that evolved the ability to digest nylon (which was invented in 1935).
deBeuk 4 years ago
Those are adaptations, or micro-evolution. It is true that they have been proven to happen, but that is not the same as evolution as defined by evolutionists. It isn't a package deal, and proving one doesn't prove all of the definition. Besides evolution is supposed to take millions+, not a few decades or else The Earth would be aged a lot younger, wouldn't it?
Sickopath333 4 years ago
"Those are adaptations, or micro-evolution"
Ah, you use the unscientific creationist definition. Why not stick with the one actual scietists use, where microevolution is evolution below the species level?
"as evolution as defined by evolutionists"
You mean scientists? Why wouldn't we use their definition since we're talking about science?
"The Earth would be aged a lot younger, wouldn't it?"
No.
deBeuk 4 years ago
""Hovind never taught highschool science, period. He's not even trained to."
You said that and i proved yo wrong."
If you want to call teaching science without credentials being a science teacher, then ok, he taught science for a few years. Not 15 though.
deBeuk 4 years ago
Hovind never had an accredited degree. Without an accredited degree he was never a real science teacher. He is a liar that was erroneously misinforming impressionable minds with nonsense such as his "ice sheet protecting the world" myth.
ephekt420 4 years ago
o so now you because you cant prove it you just claim that there is no need to? someone seems to be backing down to the challenge...
piratePE 4 years ago
"o so now you because you cant prove it you just claim that there is no need to? someone seems to be backing down to the challenge..."
No, you ask me to prove something that is a fact. Evolution is an observed facts, why would we need to "prove" them? Do you need to "prove" gravity?
deBeuk 4 years ago
I guess the copyright statement on this video doesn't agree with creacionism, since it evolved and adapted to the surrounding environment, perhaps by the means of artificial selection.
cumesoftware 4 years ago
The laws have nothing to do with that silly "evolution theory" all of you are failing to prove.
piratePE 4 years ago
"The laws have nothing to do with that silly "evolution theory" all of you are failing to prove."
You didn't ask for evidence against creationism, you asked where hovind lied.
Do you have a problem remembering your own questions?
deBeuk 4 years ago
Do you have a problem proving evolution?
piratePE 4 years ago
"Do you have a problem proving evolution?"
Evolution is an observed fact, like gravity. I don't need to prove it.
deBeuk 4 years ago
"Fact?" "Observed?" No, that's part of the problem with evolution. It has never been seen to happen in modern times, that's why we look for fossils. Adaptations happen yes, but has a species ever created a mutation other then it's own species? A frog creates some sort of frog everytime, so why would "prehistoric" creatures create different types of animals?
Sickopath333 4 years ago
"No, that's part of the problem with evolution. It has never been seen to happen in modern times"
talkorigins . org/faqs/speciation.html
talkorigins . org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
You were saying?
"Adaptations happen yes, but has a species ever created a mutation other then it's own species?"
Word salad.
"why would "prehistoric" creatures create different types of animals?"
Argument from personal incredulity.
deBeuk 4 years ago
yeah, also, to digress back to origins of laws: Before the Bible was assembled at the Niceane council, before Rome, Before the Greeks, before Egypt (kemet), we find the Social Contract. It's understood that humans work better as a team. Social coheasion(sp) is a tool, just like a language. No language is "right"; however, some have broader vocab. and allow for more accurate and effective communication
xander55577 4 years ago
Hovind is a fraud.
DaveMartinCanuck 4 years ago
If you are using THEIR material in ways THEY deem unfit, and they complain to YouTube (just like anybody else can with the videos he/she create), how is that an "abuse of system"?
hotdoc007 4 years ago
Wow, youtube evidently disagree with you 'peculiar' interpretation of copyright law as they have reinstated all the vids on which a counter DMCA was filed.
But just so u know, once you have declared something to be in the public domain, you have no rights whatsoever as to how its used.
Further the reason youtube limits u to 10mis is this is the max taken to be used for 'fair use'.
Thunderf00t 4 years ago
I don't think CSE waived their copyright so that someone can take things out of context. I think it would be taking advantage of their generosity in bad faith.
hotdoc007 4 years ago
But lets be clear, NOTHING IS TAKEN OUT OF THE CSE VIDS OUT OF CONTEST.
This is not taking advantage of the 'generosity' of these charlatans, its exposing the stupidity of their lies. Clear?
Thunderf00t 4 years ago
Their lies?
Please tell me what lies he has told in his videos concerning evolution/creation?
piratePE 4 years ago
"Please tell me what lies he has told in his videos concerning evolution/creation?"
Let's start at the beginning.
He never taught science at a highschool.
deBeuk 4 years ago
All I hear from people like you is that all his creationism teachings are lies, but yet you never say which part of what he preaches are lies? Name some please.
and to qoute myself ... "Please tell me what lies he has told in his videos concerning EVOLUTION/CREATION?"
piratePE 4 years ago
"and to qoute myself ... "Please tell me what lies he has told in his videos concerning EVOLUTION/CREATION?""
Oh, the fact that he lies about his credentials is not important? Ok.
How about his claim that there is evidence for a global flood? There isn't.
Oh, and the water canopy thing? Batshit insane and completely impossible.
deBeuk 4 years ago
We going off the topic here. . . . I still haven't read any evidence that can support the evolution theory. . . .
piratePE 4 years ago
"We going off the topic here. . . . I still haven't read any evidence that can support the evolution theory. . . . "
That wasn't your question. Your question was "what lies he has told in his videos concerning EVOLUTION/CREATION?".
I answered it.
deBeuk 4 years ago
ok ok, let me rephrase cos yo getting real petty. What lies concerning evolution/creation has he told in his videos?
piratePE 4 years ago
"ok ok, let me rephrase cos yo getting real petty. What lies concerning evolution/creation has he told in his videos?"
Are you going to pretend you asked a different question again when I answer? Look back a few posts for what I answered the first time.
deBeuk 4 years ago
"What lies concerning evolution/creation has he told in his videos?"
It'd be tough to find many things that he is truthful about, in his videos. Hovind lies about science, lies about what the evolutionary theory claims, distorts and cherry picks evidence, and pretty much uses every dirty trick in the book. Search YouTube for "Why do people laugh at creationists?" for a great series of videos that pick apart Hovind's claims one by one.
MightyTiny 4 years ago
...A note: the series addresses Hovind's arguments both as presented by Hovind in his videos, and as presented by venomfangx, an infamous Young Earth creationist on YouTube, who rivals Hovind in dishonesty and lack of intellectual integrity, and who gets all his arguments directly from Hovind's videos... so they are all Hovind's arguments.
MightyTiny 4 years ago
Still, you people only claim that he lies, but you never say what exactly he has lied about!!!!????
And to all the others, he taught high school science, that wasnt a lie.
piratePE 4 years ago
"Still, you people only claim that he lies, but you never say what exactly he has lied about!!!!????"
I JUST POINTED OUT TO YOU A VIDEO SERIES THAT LISTS AND EXPOSES, ONE BY ONE, LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE. In detail. Go watch it. It's by the same YouTuber as this video is by, so you can find it even through his profile. Or in my favorites. Watch it, and you'll not only see his lies about science, but also the detailed explanations of why they are untrue.
MightyTiny 4 years ago
ya, um i just watched the first video and a simple google search proved many of what the evolutionist said wrong......go read my comment on the first video.
Anyone else have some SCIENTIFIC PROOF of the evolution? Cos those videos dont prove anything.
piratePE 4 years ago
(Seems that YouTube lost my reply, so I'm rewriting this) First, care to be more specific? What specifically was wrong about what was said in the first part of the video series I pointed you to? And where did you get your information? From an actual site on astronomy, that relies on sound, peer reviewed material, or from a young earth creationist site that gives not a single reference to anything peer reviewed, because nothing in science supports their absurd claims?
MightyTiny 4 years ago
"ya, um i just watched the first video and a simple google search proved many of what the evolutionist said wrong"
Ah, so you're a liar too. Figures.
Have fun with that.
deBeuk 4 years ago
you saying that wikipedia and other sites similar to that lie?
piratePE 4 years ago
"you saying that wikipedia and other sites similar to that lie?"
No. I'm calling you a liar. Plus, science isn't done on google or wikipedia.
deBeuk 4 years ago
Not done on wikipedia? Now thats such a stupid statement. I checked my facts on those pages, doos. So maybe i am arrogant, but thats still not proving your evolution THEORY is it. And by the way, in an affidavit by hovind he says where he taught and everything. And this was verified by the court. Wanna call them liars too?
piratePE 4 years ago
"I checked my facts on those pages"
Science isn't done on wikipedia. Science is done by scientists who perform do research and publish their findings in peer-reviewed academic journals. And did you check the sources?
And why don't you tell us what your "facts" are?
"thats still not proving your evolution THEORY is it."
And again, science doesn't deal with proof outside of mathematics. No theory is ever proven.
deBeuk 4 years ago
"in an affidavit by hovind he says where he taught and everything"
And that was not on a high school and not at highschool level. So, that means he's a liar.
The guy doesn't even understand what science says, he's not even capable of teaching science on a high school level.
deBeuk 4 years ago
Go read the affadafit again....you are wrong on this one.
piratePE 4 years ago
"Go read the affadafit again....you are wrong on this one."
No, Hovind is just lying.
Please tell us where he taught high school science for 15 years if you think he's not lying.
deBeuk 4 years ago
"... to this much larger church and school there, so in 1981 we moved to Longview, Texas, where I took position teaching science and math at Longview Christian Academy and at Texas Baptist College..."
And the court accepted this as true.
piratePE 4 years ago
Here's the part after what you quoted:
"In 1986 we moved the family to Fairfield, California, where I became Assistant Pastor and principal at Calvary Baptist Christian School as well as a science teacher. After three years there, in 1989 we moved to Pensacola, Florida for my wife to finisher her music degree while I devoted my time to beginning Creation Science Evangelism"
So that's from '81 to '89. Not 15 years.
deBeuk 4 years ago
Apart from that, Hovind doesn't actually have any credentials to teach science. He has a PhD in Christian education that he got from a diploma mill.
deBeuk 4 years ago
Not done on wikipedia? Now thats such a stupid statement. I checked my facts on those pages, doos. So maybe i am arrogant, but thats still not proving your evolution THEORY is it. And by the way, in an affidavit by hovind he says where he taught and everything. And this was verified by the court. Wanna call them liars too?
piratePE 4 years ago
"Not done on wikipedia"
No. Science is done by scientists. Wikipedia is a community effort, and doesn't guarantee that it's articles are factually accurate or objective.
deBeuk 4 years ago
As for "Scientific proof" of evolution, here's something I wrote after getting tired of the utterly ridiculous "no evidence for evolution" mantra repeated by Creationists on YouTube: h t t p : / / mightytiny . freepgs . com / Common_decent . pdf (remove the spaces)
That's just a tiny, tiny part of the total evidence, but even alone it is more than sufficient to show beyond a REASONABLE doubt that living things on Earth share common ancestors.
MightyTiny 4 years ago 2
We don't know what chemicals were abundant on Earth before there was life, but among the possibilities are: water, ammonia, carbon dioxide and methane. Put these simple compounds in a jar. Simulate primordial lightning (elec sparks). After a few weeks, you'll see a weak brown liquid containing molecules more complex than those put in originally; amino acids are present. And, importantly, purines and pyrimidines - the building blocks of DNA.
darkpawuk 4 years ago
you still can't explain where teh original chemicals came from, when are evolutionist going to offer how the soup came into existance in the first place. Your going to have to take your model back to before there was nothing to whats evolved today.
Where did that dang lighting come from any how?
danmusser 4 years ago
Evolution doesn't deal with the origin of life, it deals with the variety of life. I'm just saying that we can see evolution in the lab. Put those chemicals together, add some lightning, that's what happens. Lightning has been present on the Earth for billions of years.
You're simply assuming "Ha! Evolutionists cannot answer a different question! God did it!", which is clearly nonsense.
darkpawuk 4 years ago 2