Matrix has a lot of Cyberpunk elements and a whole trilogy is much longer than 2 hours. It's rather disappointing, agreed, cause characters and ideas take a back seat to the special effects.
And it's definitely NOT a Film Noir (crime drama that emphasize cynical attitudes and sexual motivations), so I suggest some trolls to use internet before posting there something ^^
The same goes to you. If you don't like my opinion about Matrix, feel free to ignore my comments. I'm not going to brainwash anyone and I'm expecting the same from you.
In fact, I just wanted to say, it is not a big comliment to mention Polish movie and Japanese director beside - in my humble opinion - overrated worldwide blockbuster (yes, it has bigger audience because many people are too lazy to read subtitles :)), so what?). Avalon is good by itself. It is good as it is.
A really good cyberpunk film. Now I know where that Ghost In The Shell' s dog comes from :) Both movies are about the same: what is virtual, what is real, reality is just a 7 letters word and nobody knows what it means.
Summoning the spirit of Matrix makes me feel kinda uncomfortable, though. Matrix is a crap (put your thumbs down if you're into superheroes, I'll survive it somehow ;), but admit - Neo is too cool to identify with), choose these two to watch, watch over again and enjoy. I did.
Can you say that again with some manner of actual English structure?
And Neo is easy to identify with. He's not the one because of some innate superhero ability, he's the one because he truly believes he can do anything. When you realize that, you can realize he's not some amazing person, he's just never really grown up.
English is not my mother tongue, please have mercy :D
Believe me, I know quite a lot about movies and I can say the very 1st Matrix wasn't that bad movie at all, but 2nd and 3rd just spoiled the mood. If you are able to identify yourself with Neo, do it. But please don't expect it from me, okay?
Yes, i liked the style, plot, pacing, and dialog. It wasn't as broad as The Matrix (which used one of the rooftop sets), but it's certainly up there with most Twilight Zone eps and some of The Truman Show.
Gamer can't compare to Avalon, Avalon deals thematically with certain philosophical ideals and themes that permeate the film, whereas Gamer is more of an actioner that deals somewhat with similar themes in a more visceral way; both films are good in their own way, I like them both, but Avalon approaches said themes more vividly and languidly explains them in broader detail
Well...if he made Ghost in the Shell. . . can you say he is copying?
I saw the movie - the most trippy thing is that the movie was tri-lingual. Mamoru Oshii filmed it in Poland and used Polish actors so during the whole movie they speak in Polish. . . and on the bottom of the screen you see Japanese subtitles. Once in a while, though, English is used too.
Most people copy elements from their surrounding, which includes other people.
For example, Matrix copied GitS' rooftop landing, acupuncture idea, and some (by then common) style, and Avalon copied Matrix's "real world" hookup chair and color filtering (as many modern movies and games do, sadly). Maybe some "bullet time" as well, though i think Natural Born Killers' knife scene helped inspire that.
If you go into discussion of who copied who, then in this case you would have to mention that Wachowski Brothers and Oshii both copied William Gibson who wrote the Neuromancer (back in 1984 I think). Also, Wachowski brothers most certainly were influenced by Dark City (which came out in 1998 and featured a premise very similar to that of Matrix and a character similar to Neo ).
Another CGI orgy. Meh.
cochranexyz 10 months ago
this kinda reminds me of that upcoming movie Sucker Punch, in a borderlining way or some sort of that
AHsatanDeviant 11 months ago
We have made a Song about this Theme - but our Lyrics are in German.
You can watch it on our Channel.
The Song calls "bang bang bang" :-)
DezibelDevils 11 months ago
I heard this was amazing. was it?
SuperiFox 11 months ago
For the life of me I can't find the torrent for this. I keep getting that queer "Mists of Avalon" -_-
SirNicholasD 1 year ago
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cold weather makes this movie even better.
julesickdrums 1 year ago
the best 4 dollers australian i have ever spent , love this movie
danny1ruse 1 year ago
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dongoyo7 1 year ago
very good convential betveen II World War and Our world in the future.
ntzi87 1 year ago
"The Matrix" could only dream to be like "Avalon".
luvindogadis411 1 year ago 8
Wait is this a rea preveiw for a movie
Kikolyne 1 year ago
Matrix is a mix of sci fi anime and sci fi literature.
kriahambul 1 year ago
The Matrix ain't Cyberpunk!! it's just a 2 hour movie of terrible acting and movie mistakes.
AVALON has soul, it is poetry in motion.
1shoryuken 1 year ago 2
@1shoryuken
Matrix has a lot of Cyberpunk elements and a whole trilogy is much longer than 2 hours. It's rather disappointing, agreed, cause characters and ideas take a back seat to the special effects.
And it's definitely NOT a Film Noir (crime drama that emphasize cynical attitudes and sexual motivations), so I suggest some trolls to use internet before posting there something ^^
NicotinReptyle 1 year ago
Reality isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Google: "The Simulation Argument" by Nick Bostrom.
"The Holographic Principle."
"Digital Physics." That's just to start with. Maya. An Illusion. I only have one question, really. How many of you are non-player characters?
wrb1957 1 year ago
Very cool.
malagem666 1 year ago
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The same goes to you. If you don't like my opinion about Matrix, feel free to ignore my comments. I'm not going to brainwash anyone and I'm expecting the same from you.
In fact, I just wanted to say, it is not a big comliment to mention Polish movie and Japanese director beside - in my humble opinion - overrated worldwide blockbuster (yes, it has bigger audience because many people are too lazy to read subtitles :)), so what?). Avalon is good by itself. It is good as it is.
NicotinReptyle 1 year ago
A really good cyberpunk film. Now I know where that Ghost In The Shell' s dog comes from :) Both movies are about the same: what is virtual, what is real, reality is just a 7 letters word and nobody knows what it means.
Summoning the spirit of Matrix makes me feel kinda uncomfortable, though. Matrix is a crap (put your thumbs down if you're into superheroes, I'll survive it somehow ;), but admit - Neo is too cool to identify with), choose these two to watch, watch over again and enjoy. I did.
NicotinReptyle 1 year ago
Can you say that again with some manner of actual English structure?
And Neo is easy to identify with. He's not the one because of some innate superhero ability, he's the one because he truly believes he can do anything. When you realize that, you can realize he's not some amazing person, he's just never really grown up.
2010Ezekiel 1 year ago
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NicotinReptyle 1 year ago
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English is not my mother tongue, please have mercy :D
Believe me, I know quite a lot about movies and I can say the very 1st Matrix wasn't that bad movie at all, but 2nd and 3rd just spoiled the mood. If you are able to identify yourself with Neo, do it. But please don't expect it from me, okay?
NicotinReptyle 1 year ago
Besides, it's a topic about Avalon, not Matrix, didn't you noticed?
NicotinReptyle 1 year ago
Then why put The Matrix into it? If you don't want people to comment on what you have to say, don't say it. Pretty simple...
Also, if you can't identify with him, you need to understand his character rather than trying to think of him as some reincarnation of Jesus...
And FYI, Ghost in the Shell has been out since long before Avalon... Timelines are worldwide, you have no excuse for that...
2010Ezekiel 1 year ago
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NicotinReptyle 1 year ago
FYI, I can read your comment even after you delete it...
You can't say anything you want, and expect people to ignore it. That's not how the world works, as you claim it to.
Also, The Matrix is a blockbuster not just because more people watch it, but because of Film Noir, which Avalon does not have much of...
2010Ezekiel 1 year ago
I can say anything and expect people not to try brainwash me. So I do not claim too much :)
The Matrix is a blockbuster because of a huge promotion, no more and no less, whatever you like it or not :D
NicotinReptyle 1 year ago
You don't know what a blockbuster is... Do you?
Like I said, Film Noir. Since you don't seem to know what that means, I suggest you use the internet to figure it out. *rolls eyes*
2010Ezekiel 1 year ago
I know what it is. I just don't care what you think. Your opinion is optional. Watch your crap and leave me alone with movies I like.
NicotinReptyle 1 year ago
That cuts both ways, and even if you do like the movie, according to theatrical school and the art of directing it can still be terrible.
You sound like one of those idiots who don't realize what they say has no meaning, and you are not entitled to your opinion.
2010Ezekiel 1 year ago
Seems to be a good movie, btw. the second song is in Polish O_o
mister8master 2 years ago
This is a Polish-Japanesse movie, music by Kenji Kawaii, he cooperated with Polish musicians many times.
Btw. the soundtrack for Escaflone was made by the Warsaw Symphonic orchestra.
MaximusProteus 2 years ago
@MaximusProteus
This is nothing unusual. Hellsing OVA ending was made by WSO too. They are somehow popular in Japan, maybe because of Chopin :)
Yurusenai 2 years ago
@Yurusenai
Could be, they`re really crazy about european music, including Chopin, they even made a... video game with Chopin called "Eternal sonata" LOL
MaximusProteus 2 years ago
I love this movie!! I got it on DVD and I watched it lots of times! XD I love the theme song too. Can anyone tell me what's it called?
KillerAngel47 2 years ago
As a VFX pro I was amazed at the level of work that made this,
After watching the behind the scenes I really want the Domino system they used and developed for it.
bradisdrab 2 years ago
Someone knows more movies like this one????
AuronpeacemakerG 2 years ago
Casshern, i bet. It looks like it has more action and dialog than Avalon, though. (Not a hard feat.)
For an actual groundbreaking storyline, you should watch the Matrix trilogy. Dark City and eXistenZ are also good.
VCat2006 2 years ago
Yuck, did you really like Dark City? The concept was good, but the execution was terrible.
adamredwine 2 years ago
Yes, i liked the style, plot, pacing, and dialog. It wasn't as broad as The Matrix (which used one of the rooftop sets), but it's certainly up there with most Twilight Zone eps and some of The Truman Show.
VCat2006 2 years ago
i dont know try natural city
matrixlone 2 years ago
and immortal
matrixlone 2 years ago
It could be worse.
Akim1787 2 years ago
Gamer is copying this
18yardsout 2 years ago
Who the hell is Gamer?
theinsane102 2 years ago
Gamer can't compare to Avalon, Avalon deals thematically with certain philosophical ideals and themes that permeate the film, whereas Gamer is more of an actioner that deals somewhat with similar themes in a more visceral way; both films are good in their own way, I like them both, but Avalon approaches said themes more vividly and languidly explains them in broader detail
das87 2 years ago
And this copied The Matrix, which copied Ghost in the Shell (also by Mamoru Oshii).
VCat2006 2 years ago 4
Well...if he made Ghost in the Shell. . . can you say he is copying?
I saw the movie - the most trippy thing is that the movie was tri-lingual. Mamoru Oshii filmed it in Poland and used Polish actors so during the whole movie they speak in Polish. . . and on the bottom of the screen you see Japanese subtitles. Once in a while, though, English is used too.
konman001 2 years ago
Most people copy elements from their surrounding, which includes other people.
For example, Matrix copied GitS' rooftop landing, acupuncture idea, and some (by then common) style, and Avalon copied Matrix's "real world" hookup chair and color filtering (as many modern movies and games do, sadly). Maybe some "bullet time" as well, though i think Natural Born Killers' knife scene helped inspire that.
VCat2006 2 years ago
Cyberpunk themes are not a new thing.
If you go into discussion of who copied who, then in this case you would have to mention that Wachowski Brothers and Oshii both copied William Gibson who wrote the Neuromancer (back in 1984 I think). Also, Wachowski brothers most certainly were influenced by Dark City (which came out in 1998 and featured a premise very similar to that of Matrix and a character similar to Neo ).
konman001 2 years ago
I remember that on youtube was a trailer with the prodigy music. Does anyone can upload it again ? :x pl0xx
ka11zoku 2 years ago
I tracked down the DVD and got it imported. AMAZING <3 Complicated, and a little weird at first but amazing.
Obleku 2 years ago
I just rented it from Blockbuster.
southparkresident 2 years ago
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...DAVID FINCHER or CHRISTOPHER NOLAN should direct MGS !!!!! 5 STARS *****
RamboSnake73 2 years ago
Bonjour , Je cherche le titre de la B.O de avalon .
Merci
Converseman13014 3 years ago
what a great movie, though I am still not quite sure of how it is supposed to end....xDDD
pakkinen 3 years ago 2
Mamoru Oshii Should Direct the new Metal Gear Solid Movie Anyone Agree??
TheApolloChannel 3 years ago 23
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RamboSnake73 2 years ago
@TheApolloChannel holly crap yes. you should make that happen.
eradicati0nx 1 year ago
@TheApolloChannel lol off course I agree... I would love Hideo kojima but it would be a 20 hours movie...
matsuoka23 8 months ago
@TheApolloChannel pity there is no new metal gear solid movie?
SirTorment 6 months ago
@TheApolloChannel That would be great!
javiikiller 3 months ago
Isn't it like this girl and several different ppl go into a virtual reality game and hunt down for these ghost girls, right? Some1 reply plz.
shadeblade109 3 years ago 2
not really, is much more complicated and complex than that. Watch it :)
pakkinen 3 years ago 2
That's the description of the game in the movie, not the plot.
Chupacabra777 3 years ago
Music ?
tecktonikfschool 3 years ago
it's from the OST
coolpocoloco 3 years ago 2
artist is Kenji Kawai i think
mzombie90 3 years ago
Very Great movie!!! :)
sidneywofford 3 years ago 2
amazing movie
pigreco 3 years ago
i do not why, but i like this movie, can anybody tell me where can i get it? hahaha mother of god a like this fucking movie
hellspartan001 3 years ago 2
one of the BEST
zaebali6669 3 years ago 2
My favorite movie EVER
lagobaikal 3 years ago 2
this movie kick ass
camarodue 3 years ago
wtf?
replicant790504 4 years ago
Jo kis filmnek igerkezik :)
xdccrecap 4 years ago