Ok so i am a garden city middle skool pommer an it waz my frist year an i have to say wat someone already mentioned but u r saying we should of got ponits taken away for a girl a little bit spaced well i dont belive so
honestly? are you joking?. livonia got 1st. no body cares what the judges say , they judge livonia harder then any other middle school team out there. novis mosh pit? that was a joke. garden city did alright, pretty desent but livonia by far DID AMAZING.
i think that all of this drama is getting a little out of hand. First of all, of course the judges change the scores afterwards. otherwise the scoring wouldnt reallyt be against each team. say team a goes and they are good and get 10s but then team b goes and they are better. the scores should be changed to reflect that.LP i think had a deduction because of time do they may havescored highest but with deduction gotten third. let novi MS enjoy it win :)
HEY CAMP SISTERS! you guys did amazing, we r so happy :) for u guys! we cant wait to c u guys at our regionals! CONGRATS!! WE LOVE YOU GUYS! ~ from the whole white pine pompon squad :)
HEY CAMP SISTERS!! you guys did AWESOME:)! the whole white pine pompon squad is so happy for all of you! we cant wait to c u guys at our regionals. WE LOVE YOU CAMP SISTERS!!!!!!!!
okay im from novi and alot of my friends are on novi pom. i think they deserved the win. they practiced hard the point where alot of girls threw up. it was nasty but still. its the first time novi pom ever got 1st place. just be happy for them. lovina did good but still
what does throwing up have to do with anything? Alot of teams practice to the point where girls get sick....it does not have anything to do with deserving to win. Congrats to Novi, but not because they "throw up"
I looked at all the videos and all these girls did good and you can see that a lot of hard work and dedication has been put into all the routines. As someone who does not know anything about pom, I feel Livonia pom was the best out of the 4 videos I watched. But again that is coming from someone who is not looking to judge but to just see which one I like the best. Not sure where the other teams are from.
I'm unsure of who put all these videos up here,but I know that none of my current girls have posted or will ever post on here. Lets put an end to all of this talking. I'm very proud of my girls on what they did on Saturday. Everyone remember that all the teams have very young girls.I ask you all to please stop posting these things. Let things get handled the way they are suppose to. Thank you and congrats to all the teams who performed on Saturday.
Thunderfoot - first of all, you are clearly from GC or Novi, because you seem to know A LOT about the past few years of middle school pom to be from Flint and Brighton.
And also, you clearly dont know much about pom, seeing as every 3 seconds a pom is on the ground a team loses .5 points. So although it was sloppy, her picking that pom up right away was the right thing to do.
And you can pick out every mistake in LPs routine, but it still doesnt change the fact they were the best. Sorry.
Obviously you havent been paying attention. They got third because the judges changed the scores after the competition was over in order to lower Livonia's score. And if you think thats just a loser complaining, wait until the tape comes out.
yea. thats what this whole thing is about.. unfair judging.. becasue if those girls were judged purley on talent and how they performed, there would be no question as to who won
no questions. livonia and garden city. i overheard a gc mom saying "i wasnt even paying attention to novi, i was concerned of all the talk about livonia, i had no clue who had it!" so there it shows who should have won. lp or gc. i thik gc but thats just me.
and im sure the judges know what they are doing, but they chose not to do it right.
and tell me honestly, do you think LP did amazing? or even relatively good. if you dont think they should have won, you have no pom experience probably, just my guess.
but even a NOVI MOM walked up to a LP girl, and said they should have won. I'm not getting cocky about anything. All I'm saying is that they got cheated.
LIVONIA POM was amhazzing... who ever was saying that we should have got what we got... obviously you haven't looked at the snappy, and how dificalt the rountine was.. gc did one partner move, novi did i think 2 and one of them a girl almost fell on her face.. atleast the girls on livonia did difficult partner moves and where snappy the whole time.. so what if we where so excited that we huged are coach because we throught it was really good and we where excited..
ATTENTION: No Novi girl is allowed to make a comment to this video or any other of this type. Even if you do not pom for Novi please do not make comments.
These are talented girls getting screwed over. I'm going to laugh when I see the results, and each one of you that talks crap about LP saying they deserved 3rd feels like an idiot. This is about a bunch of adults acting like 2 year olds, punishing girls that are in 6-8th grade, for being talented.
and getting excited and hugging eachother, and running to their coaches, after a KICK-ASS performance. NOT FAIR.
i agree with vballgirl325. im not from any of the teams, but i was at regionals and i have an opinion. however peoples feelings are getting hurt. maybe its best to stop arguing and see what happens.
Word on the street is that there will be a meeting by the Livonia coach with the director of Mid American where the video will be shown. Depending on how that goes, it could be shown on YouTube in just a few days so every team that pays to compete through MAPP will know how they run their competitions.
again, thunderfoot. that is super mean. this isnt smack talk time about teams. its debating on the scores and fairness... if your going to be mean and flat out dis teams like that, leave.
yeah okayy? why cant anyone be happy with livonia getting first in high kick and hip hop? god. they beat out gc by four effing points for high kick. if anything was rigged with pom, that was. regionals i give to gc. novis routine was super safe but whats done is done. no changing the scores now.
can everyone remember that these girls are in 6th-8th grade!? they're little girls. back to back third and saying "livonia got third again :)" is really rude. you are obviously from novi or gc because if you were a common spectator, you would feel differently about the placings.
be quiet:0 u say to much crap,,,, so calm your butt down:)) Livonia should have won,,, from what i saw and read about this team and what they've gone through:) you need to start tellin the truth:) obviously you r from some other team and don't knoe what you r talking about:) Livonia you should have won but judges don't knoe how to add up scores and how to actually judge:) so be queit:) Livonia won in there hearts
Again. Mid American (the judges) rigged the scores and there is a video that proves it.
And honestly, if anyone watches those tapes and truly believes that placings were legitimate, they must not know pom very well. Novi was sloppy, had terrible form, and the routine was not entertaining at all. GC was better than Novi, but still not great. The routine had no cohesion. Livonia deserved the deduction, but if they were judged fairly they would have won despite it.
Okay, all I wish to say is that Livonia Pom was clearly the better team. I am not from Livonia, but I was at the competition and watched the performances there and on youtube, and it is clear. Even with a 5 point deduction, they still should have won.
And everyone saying Novi won "fair & square", you might want to wait a few days on that one. There is proof that the judges rigged scores so Livonia wouldn't win, and its only a matter of time until everyone sees it.
the competiton is already over with.theres nothing ANYBODY can do about it now thats why theres a such thing called JUDGES, NOVI took 1st place and i am very happy for them.GARDEN CITY took 2nd place they did GREAT also.once again livonia got 3rd(: all teams did a great job.everyone tried there hardest.but you can tell who really practiced by REALLY watching the performances not on the computer. also you cannot tell who should when by watching a little video. theres no point in being poor sports
ok you are really mean... back to back third? really? how immature can you get... livonia totally deserved better than third, as they did better than both gc and novi... lp even did better than some of the varsity teams out there. its sad the judges had to do that to their score to make sure they wouldnt win.even the audience knew who should have won, you could feel it in they gym when the places were announced.
judges arent stupid. so shut up. seriously? they got third last year and this year. just because it was andreas last year. well maybe she should have done a better job of coaching. maybe those girls should hold on to their poms? and not make their routine so long. its their fault and all places earned were deserved.!
oooooooooookayyy. the dropped pom was grabbed and the girl went to the wrong spot after she noticably bent over to grab it. and they already made the hand sign before competeion saying they ha one this year. they get to cocky over just a competeition.
first off, andreas a great coach. and what do you want the girl to do, let the pom sit there? the right thing to do was pick it up and thats what she did.
I think Livonia Pom deserved first. All the teams were really good, but walking off the floor wrong shouldn't take away first place from these girls. I understand its a deduction, but it shouldn't seperate first from third! The judges are much harder on Livonia Pom, and judged unfairly. GO LP!
what do you agree with? let the website speak for itself. that website will hold all the answers instead of rumors being spread through comments on youtube.
Wht do you expect themto do throw the trophy in the garbage? ignore it? No novi won the trophy fair and square no matter how much you deny it i dont think they have to apoligize for winning
ALL THE TEAMS DID THEIR BEST!! there is no need to dis any of the teams for what they did on the floor. If you love the sport of pom, there is no need to bash any of the teams for what they did. Just leave this whole situation alone, its so not worth it. That just means next year, everyone will be bring out all the stops to win. GOOD JOB TO EVERYONE.
And dont forget, livonia, already won high kick, and the hip hop compettition, they should be thankful for winning something.
the judges do not stop th time untill every grl crosses the black line if you watch they are on the floor untill 3:36 again you do gt a diduction for going on the spectators side of thegym
According to a video i saw, Novi was still on the floor at 3 minutes and 10 seconds when the video shut off. I guess we will see when the scores get posted on Mid Americans website.
yea i agree. telling her girls to cross the black line was probabally the thing their coach was worrying least about... and the girls were just so excited they didnt even stop to think about it
Wow, I just watched all 4 routines and I do not even know what the question is. Livonia Pom obviously was the best one. There performance was harder, sharper, all the girls were together on all the moves. Novi's kickline was off due to the girl who kicked by herself. Garden City's kick line started with the girls on the left too far apart and then they squished together. I could not stop laughing when I saw in the video when Novi threw the girl across the floor. My vote is for Livonia Pom!!!
woow. your saying gc was bad cause a girl was a tiny bit too spaced out in kickline? thats not even a good enough reason to say they were bad. gc did good. and just becuase one girl was out too far? thats the sumbest reason i ever heard.
they did amazing, but at the coaches meetings they did say they needed to cross the black line in order for the time to stop. sooo maybe there coach didnt tell them?
i also think it is unfair.. wether the judges want to admit it or not, they judge lp harder than the middle school other teams, everyone knows that. its unfair that just because a team is wearing s certain uniform they are being criticised for every little thing they do wrong, things other teams would get away with.
yeah right all middle schools are judged the same. livonia did do good. and so did garden city. but novi?...sorry but it wasnt good....good job lp &+ gc
i agree with smileee333 the mosh pit thing novi did was completely rediculious, i watched the girl practically fall flat on her face. it wasnt even pom.. THAT should have been a deduction.. and your complaining about lp's stunts being illegal?
& lp you guys did greatt. ;) everyone at regionals knows you deserved better
Thank you for agreeing with me smileee333!! I love you who ever you are! We thought the same thing about the mosh pit. lol I just can't stop watching all the performances! Livonia is still my favorite!
LIVONIA WON FRANKLIN PARENTSHAVE PROOF THEY VIDEO TAPED THE SCORES FROM SITTIN GBEHINF THE JUDGES..LIVONIA WAS IN 1st THE whole TIME... GOOD JOB GIRLSi love your routiene
yeahh the judges cheated livonia was in first the whole time they took point away from them for being on the floor to long when novi was on the floor longer...who cares if 12 yr old girls wanted to give each other a hug for doin really good performance they did better than some jv teams i think it would be ok to be happy for a bit thats rediculous judges cheated and they have PROOF they wont get away with this...GREAT job livonia congrats on your "1st" ;) dont worry everyone knows you (won) lol
isnt obvious who clearly won? Livonia did FENOMANAL.... they dont need judges to tell them they were the best...who cares if they got third...judges can t take away how awesome they were theuy were my favorite team there in my mind they won....girls they diddnt even know were crying becuase it was sooooo good the judges cheated novi was on the flor longer than livonia so how did they get points off from bing on the floor to long? all of you guys are soar winners... to me livonia were the winners
ok livonia did great face it everone knows it ....the judges cheated. frankllin pom moms have proof...they video taped the scores becuase they sat behind the judges...and LP was in first the wholeeeee TIME
I doubt even half of all of you know exactly what these girls are being judged on. Its not like they were so close to being first any way they were third!!!! THey got huge deductions for timing and adeduction for that girl dropping a pom. Also if the coaches would have pad attention almost all of there stunts were ILLIGAL. Nothing about this is political and all of you know it. GC and livonia almost always wins this is the first time novi has ever won. face it its a little competitin and itsOVER
They were 3rd because of being over by a few secs. The scores from 1st to 3rd were a couple points and LP was deducted 5 points for those few secs. So they would have won by at least 3.Did you notice it took 5 secs for them to start the music. Look at Novi's kick line. Did Novi mean to have one girl kick by herself and then not kick when everyone else was kicking? Also, love when they throw a girl across the floor just like shooting someone out of a cannon at the circus.
ok. these girls dominated the middle school division, hands down. they did amazing. yea ive heard all that stuff about deductions because of timing or rules, but the fact was lp had amazing snap, heads, coreography & kickline.. and isnt that what pom is about? they should have gotten first. sure ill give it to novi, yea they have improved alot in the past years, but they were not better than lp. those girls did not in any way deserve a third place for the amazing performance they gave out there.
i guarentee that the judges you were provided with are not blind! Novi did great, so did garden city face it. i dont even no why you are taking a "pull" when the competiton is already over with. what can you do about it now, your wasting your time
Obviously putter 125 did not watch all the videos....if you had you would clearly see that Livonia had tougher partner moves and nailed them they did not stumble and almost fall. Livonia's kick line was flawless if you notice ALL the girls kicked unlike some teams who's girls did not. Don't worry the truth will come out and it will be know who CLEARLY
livonia was first, no questions asked. it shouldve been livonia, gcms, then novi. idk what was up with their judges this year! was it really b/c of going over time? b/c if so, they shouldve overlooked that for such an amazing routine and an outstanding performance.
u guys r ahhmazing. i wish our team was as good as u guys. good luck at highkick. my team will see u there! XD
MMLProductions3 2 years ago
i quuit pom so i doesnt even counnt
anymore livona go have funn...
iluvminutemaid12 2 years ago
livonia pom is the best of the best. theyre amaaziinnggg
Eishaxo 2 years ago
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leahxoxo16 2 years ago
omg i still get the shivvverrs when i watch this! im proud of you LP... love you!
-sammy
iloveLPx3 2 years ago
i love you guys!!!!and miss you!
-sammy
iloveLPx3 2 years ago
Ok so i am a garden city middle skool pommer an it waz my frist year an i have to say wat someone already mentioned but u r saying we should of got ponits taken away for a girl a little bit spaced well i dont belive so
Allypie456 2 years ago
the girls were GREAT! they should have won!
everydayhero1123 2 years ago
honestly? are you joking?. livonia got 1st. no body cares what the judges say , they judge livonia harder then any other middle school team out there. novis mosh pit? that was a joke. garden city did alright, pretty desent but livonia by far DID AMAZING.
kizer55420 3 years ago
heyy girls!!! im from the white pine squad and i say that they did amazing!!! and for the "girls" that are saying crap about them needs to stop!
great job girls it WAS amazing!!! :D
tayy070 3 years ago 2
i think that all of this drama is getting a little out of hand. First of all, of course the judges change the scores afterwards. otherwise the scoring wouldnt reallyt be against each team. say team a goes and they are good and get 10s but then team b goes and they are better. the scores should be changed to reflect that.LP i think had a deduction because of time do they may havescored highest but with deduction gotten third. let novi MS enjoy it win :)
hhspom16 3 years ago 3
u did awesome
pomergurl 3 years ago 3
HEY CAMP SISTERS! you guys did amazing, we r so happy :) for u guys! we cant wait to c u guys at our regionals! CONGRATS!! WE LOVE YOU GUYS! ~ from the whole white pine pompon squad :)
pomergurl 3 years ago 3
HEY CAMP SISTERS!! you guys did AWESOME:)! the whole white pine pompon squad is so happy for all of you! we cant wait to c u guys at our regionals. WE LOVE YOU CAMP SISTERS!!!!!!!!
pomergurl 3 years ago 2
okay im from novi and alot of my friends are on novi pom. i think they deserved the win. they practiced hard the point where alot of girls threw up. it was nasty but still. its the first time novi pom ever got 1st place. just be happy for them. lovina did good but still
loveyalotsxoxophoto 3 years ago
what does throwing up have to do with anything? Alot of teams practice to the point where girls get sick....it does not have anything to do with deserving to win. Congrats to Novi, but not because they "throw up"
Ilovecandy678 2 years ago
I want to make it clear that any comments that are thought to be inappropriate or degrading will be removed and user banned from this post.
All 4 Pom squads were great and all deserve respect.
I am not out to hurt any Pom squad......
If you find a comment anywhere in this post deemed degrading or if you feel it is inappropriate please let me know and I will remove it!!!
kloned66 3 years ago
I agree klone666. Pls remember the girls ages. They are all winners. Its for the girls that we are here. Love all the Pom girls.......
stac1125 3 years ago 6
watch them alll
1st place- Garden City- 176.5
2nd place- Livionia- 175.5
3rd place- Novi- 174.5
4th place- Byron Center-150
thats how id place them
USA7608 3 years ago
I looked at all the videos and all these girls did good and you can see that a lot of hard work and dedication has been put into all the routines. As someone who does not know anything about pom, I feel Livonia pom was the best out of the 4 videos I watched. But again that is coming from someone who is not looking to judge but to just see which one I like the best. Not sure where the other teams are from.
snowboardqueen1 3 years ago 3
This is the head coach of Livonia Pom-
I'm unsure of who put all these videos up here,but I know that none of my current girls have posted or will ever post on here. Lets put an end to all of this talking. I'm very proud of my girls on what they did on Saturday. Everyone remember that all the teams have very young girls.I ask you all to please stop posting these things. Let things get handled the way they are suppose to. Thank you and congrats to all the teams who performed on Saturday.
-Andrea
PomCoach12 3 years ago 8
LP RULES THEY DID AH-MAZING
jomc714 3 years ago 4
Point them out and I will take care of it.
kloned66 3 years ago
13eautifulxoxx
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
there was an arguement betweena ll livonia and i. but im done. just drop it. there will be no more languagee.
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
Thunderfoot
I am all for freedom of speech but the next time you use inappropriate language you will be banned from this site....
kloned66 3 years ago
okay. others are too but okay.
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
Thunderfoot - first of all, you are clearly from GC or Novi, because you seem to know A LOT about the past few years of middle school pom to be from Flint and Brighton.
And also, you clearly dont know much about pom, seeing as every 3 seconds a pom is on the ground a team loses .5 points. So although it was sloppy, her picking that pom up right away was the right thing to do.
And you can pick out every mistake in LPs routine, but it still doesnt change the fact they were the best. Sorry.
pompompompon 3 years ago
hahahahaa thats it in a nutshell!
xopommmerxo 3 years ago
if they were the best how come they got third? how come they didnt get first like you think they are the best.?
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
Obviously you havent been paying attention. They got third because the judges changed the scores after the competition was over in order to lower Livonia's score. And if you think thats just a loser complaining, wait until the tape comes out.
pompompompon 3 years ago 2
yea. thats what this whole thing is about.. unfair judging.. becasue if those girls were judged purley on talent and how they performed, there would be no question as to who won
xopommmerxo 3 years ago 4
no questions. livonia and garden city. i overheard a gc mom saying "i wasnt even paying attention to novi, i was concerned of all the talk about livonia, i had no clue who had it!" so there it shows who should have won. lp or gc. i thik gc but thats just me.
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
watch da language kiddo. not necessary.
and im sure the judges know what they are doing, but they chose not to do it right.
and tell me honestly, do you think LP did amazing? or even relatively good. if you dont think they should have won, you have no pom experience probably, just my guess.
but even a NOVI MOM walked up to a LP girl, and said they should have won. I'm not getting cocky about anything. All I'm saying is that they got cheated.
l3eautiifulxoxx 3 years ago
kiddo? how old are you. i think honestly gc deserved it. livonia should have got second. but we cant change anything now.
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
LIVONIA POM was amhazzing... who ever was saying that we should have got what we got... obviously you haven't looked at the snappy, and how dificalt the rountine was.. gc did one partner move, novi did i think 2 and one of them a girl almost fell on her face.. atleast the girls on livonia did difficult partner moves and where snappy the whole time.. so what if we where so excited that we huged are coach because we throught it was really good and we where excited..
I LOVE LIVONIA POM... <<333
kstancer 3 years ago
you neeed to chill out thunderfoot!
xopommmerxo 3 years ago 2
you need to,
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
i agree. lp was probabally the least cocky team there on saturday.
xopommmerxo 3 years ago
hmm, and what team are you from exactly thunderfoot?
l3eautiifulxoxx 3 years ago 3
I AM NOT FROM A TEAM. I AM 20 YEARS OF AGE AND I LIVE IN BRIGHTON, and go to school in flint. (accidental caps)
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
ATTENTION: No Novi girl is allowed to make a comment to this video or any other of this type.
vballgirl325 3 years ago
thank you
l3eautiifulxoxx 3 years ago
ATTENTION: No Novi girl is allowed to make a comment to this video or any other of this type. Even if you do not pom for Novi please do not make comments.
vballgirl325 3 years ago
These are talented girls getting screwed over. I'm going to laugh when I see the results, and each one of you that talks crap about LP saying they deserved 3rd feels like an idiot. This is about a bunch of adults acting like 2 year olds, punishing girls that are in 6-8th grade, for being talented.
and getting excited and hugging eachother, and running to their coaches, after a KICK-ASS performance. NOT FAIR.
l3eautiifulxoxx 3 years ago
amennn! :)
xopommmerxo 3 years ago
13eautiifulxoxx is right!
msuisgreat1 3 years ago
i agree with vballgirl325. im not from any of the teams, but i was at regionals and i have an opinion. however peoples feelings are getting hurt. maybe its best to stop arguing and see what happens.
xopommmerxo 3 years ago
this performance was epic.
they all did great (:
especially megan and sam.=P
jonasbbby14 3 years ago
Word on the street is that there will be a meeting by the Livonia coach with the director of Mid American where the video will be shown. Depending on how that goes, it could be shown on YouTube in just a few days so every team that pays to compete through MAPP will know how they run their competitions.
pompompompon 3 years ago
again, thunderfoot. that is super mean. this isnt smack talk time about teams. its debating on the scores and fairness... if your going to be mean and flat out dis teams like that, leave.
xopommmerxo 3 years ago 2
livonia should have won.
BACK IN BLACK GO LP
you girls were amazing, and dont let anyone tell you different :)
alymc45 3 years ago
i think livonia was amazing.ppl should stop talking trash about lp coaches. I heard they are really nice and really care about their team.
msuisgreat1 3 years ago
ok, then where is this video of the judges score sheets.
anonymous6879 3 years ago
yeah okayy? why cant anyone be happy with livonia getting first in high kick and hip hop? god. they beat out gc by four effing points for high kick. if anything was rigged with pom, that was. regionals i give to gc. novis routine was super safe but whats done is done. no changing the scores now.
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
can everyone remember that these girls are in 6th-8th grade!? they're little girls. back to back third and saying "livonia got third again :)" is really rude. you are obviously from novi or gc because if you were a common spectator, you would feel differently about the placings.
PoM09pOn 3 years ago 2
actually i am from brighton and flint. so thanks but i watched the videos. gc and livonia and novi all did there best and deserved what they got,
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago 3
be quiet:0 u say to much crap,,,, so calm your butt down:)) Livonia should have won,,, from what i saw and read about this team and what they've gone through:) you need to start tellin the truth:) obviously you r from some other team and don't knoe what you r talking about:) Livonia you should have won but judges don't knoe how to add up scores and how to actually judge:) so be queit:) Livonia won in there hearts
jordanwhits514 2 years ago 2
Again. Mid American (the judges) rigged the scores and there is a video that proves it.
And honestly, if anyone watches those tapes and truly believes that placings were legitimate, they must not know pom very well. Novi was sloppy, had terrible form, and the routine was not entertaining at all. GC was better than Novi, but still not great. The routine had no cohesion. Livonia deserved the deduction, but if they were judged fairly they would have won despite it.
pompompompon 3 years ago
again, mid american are the judges not the audience.
anonymous6879 3 years ago
Okay, all I wish to say is that Livonia Pom was clearly the better team. I am not from Livonia, but I was at the competition and watched the performances there and on youtube, and it is clear. Even with a 5 point deduction, they still should have won.
And everyone saying Novi won "fair & square", you might want to wait a few days on that one. There is proof that the judges rigged scores so Livonia wouldn't win, and its only a matter of time until everyone sees it.
pompompompon 3 years ago
i agree with pompompompon all the way! the competition is not over yet. we will see who really wins in a few days.
msuisgreat1 3 years ago
my vote is for byron center :) nice job ladies. way to go!
anonymous6879 3 years ago
the competiton is already over with.theres nothing ANYBODY can do about it now thats why theres a such thing called JUDGES, NOVI took 1st place and i am very happy for them.GARDEN CITY took 2nd place they did GREAT also.once again livonia got 3rd(: all teams did a great job.everyone tried there hardest.but you can tell who really practiced by REALLY watching the performances not on the computer. also you cannot tell who should when by watching a little video. theres no point in being poor sports
getalife1155 3 years ago
ok you are really mean... back to back third? really? how immature can you get... livonia totally deserved better than third, as they did better than both gc and novi... lp even did better than some of the varsity teams out there. its sad the judges had to do that to their score to make sure they wouldnt win.even the audience knew who should have won, you could feel it in they gym when the places were announced.
xopommmerxo 3 years ago
judges arent stupid. so shut up. seriously? they got third last year and this year. just because it was andreas last year. well maybe she should have done a better job of coaching. maybe those girls should hold on to their poms? and not make their routine so long. its their fault and all places earned were deserved.!
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
are you kidding?
there was ONE dropped pom, and it was recovered great. and andrea is a great coach it has nothing to do with it being her last year.
PoM09pOn 3 years ago
are you kidding? there was ONE dropped pom and it was recovered great. and andrea is a great coach, it has nothing to do with it being her last year.
PoM09pOn 3 years ago
oooooooooookayyy. the dropped pom was grabbed and the girl went to the wrong spot after she noticably bent over to grab it. and they already made the hand sign before competeion saying they ha one this year. they get to cocky over just a competeition.
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
first off, andreas a great coach. and what do you want the girl to do, let the pom sit there? the right thing to do was pick it up and thats what she did.
good job lp
xopommmerxo 3 years ago 5
yes once a pom is dropped they should pick it up when the have a messy squat or something to be less noticeable.
thunderfoot2006 3 years ago
I think Livonia Pom deserved first. All the teams were really good, but walking off the floor wrong shouldn't take away first place from these girls. I understand its a deduction, but it shouldn't seperate first from third! The judges are much harder on Livonia Pom, and judged unfairly. GO LP!
iLOVExPOMPON 3 years ago
what do you agree with? let the website speak for itself. that website will hold all the answers instead of rumors being spread through comments on youtube.
anonymous6879 3 years ago
thank you pompommer.
When you win, you get a trophy for your success. We cant deny a team of that.
anonymous6879 3 years ago
Wht do you expect themto do throw the trophy in the garbage? ignore it? No novi won the trophy fair and square no matter how much you deny it i dont think they have to apoligize for winning
pompommer 3 years ago 3
ALL THE TEAMS DID THEIR BEST!! there is no need to dis any of the teams for what they did on the floor. If you love the sport of pom, there is no need to bash any of the teams for what they did. Just leave this whole situation alone, its so not worth it. That just means next year, everyone will be bring out all the stops to win. GOOD JOB TO EVERYONE.
And dont forget, livonia, already won high kick, and the hip hop compettition, they should be thankful for winning something.
CONGRATS TO ALL!
anonymous6879 3 years ago 2
the judges do not stop th time untill every grl crosses the black line if you watch they are on the floor untill 3:36 again you do gt a diduction for going on the spectators side of thegym
pompommer 3 years ago
According to a video i saw, Novi was still on the floor at 3 minutes and 10 seconds when the video shut off. I guess we will see when the scores get posted on Mid Americans website.
msuisgreat1 3 years ago
to tell all of you novi did get a 5 pt deduction o their stunt
pompommer 3 years ago
May I ask how you know this??
msuisgreat1 3 years ago
my ousins on novi and she came over after every practice and told me all of this
pompommer 3 years ago
What did your "ousins" come and tell you after every practice from Novi?
msuisgreat1 3 years ago
they didnt get a serious deduction. the staff and judges reviewed the tapes many times thinking it was illegal but let it go.
pointedtap 3 years ago
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coolpeople619 2 years ago
yea i agree. telling her girls to cross the black line was probabally the thing their coach was worrying least about... and the girls were just so excited they didnt even stop to think about it
xopommmerxo 3 years ago 2
Wow, I just watched all 4 routines and I do not even know what the question is. Livonia Pom obviously was the best one. There performance was harder, sharper, all the girls were together on all the moves. Novi's kickline was off due to the girl who kicked by herself. Garden City's kick line started with the girls on the left too far apart and then they squished together. I could not stop laughing when I saw in the video when Novi threw the girl across the floor. My vote is for Livonia Pom!!!
msuisgreat1 3 years ago
woow. your saying gc was bad cause a girl was a tiny bit too spaced out in kickline? thats not even a good enough reason to say they were bad. gc did good. and just becuase one girl was out too far? thats the sumbest reason i ever heard.
GCMSpomGIRL13 3 years ago 2
they did amazing, but at the coaches meetings they did say they needed to cross the black line in order for the time to stop. sooo maybe there coach didnt tell them?
alymc45 3 years ago 3
i also think it is unfair.. wether the judges want to admit it or not, they judge lp harder than the middle school other teams, everyone knows that. its unfair that just because a team is wearing s certain uniform they are being criticised for every little thing they do wrong, things other teams would get away with.
xopommmerxo 3 years ago
yeah right all middle schools are judged the same. livonia did do good. and so did garden city. but novi?...sorry but it wasnt good....good job lp &+ gc
GCMSpomGIRL13 3 years ago
i agree with smileee333 the mosh pit thing novi did was completely rediculious, i watched the girl practically fall flat on her face. it wasnt even pom.. THAT should have been a deduction.. and your complaining about lp's stunts being illegal?
& lp you guys did greatt. ;) everyone at regionals knows you deserved better
xopommmerxo 3 years ago
Novi did get a 5 pt deduction on that even though a rep from mid american said that novi did not have an illigal stunt
pompommer 3 years ago
totally agree with you hurrican1..at leats livonia didnt have a mosh pit with girls flying out flat on their faces hahahaha....i LOVE livonia <3
smileee333 3 years ago
Thank you for agreeing with me smileee333!! I love you who ever you are! We thought the same thing about the mosh pit. lol I just can't stop watching all the performances! Livonia is still my favorite!
hurricanne1 3 years ago
yeah...i know one of the girls on staff and she said that novi's stunt was going to be considered illegal.
pointedtap 3 years ago
may i make an emphasis on this one more time:
LIVONIA WON FRANKLIN PARENTSHAVE PROOF THEY VIDEO TAPED THE SCORES FROM SITTIN GBEHINF THE JUDGES..LIVONIA WAS IN 1st THE whole TIME... GOOD JOB GIRLSi love your routiene
congrats on your first place livonia
BACK IN BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!
smileee333 3 years ago
YOU ALL KNOW LIONIA WON FRANKLOIN HAS PROOF OF THE SCORES LIVONIA WAS IN FIST THW WHOLE TIME I LOVE LIVONIA POM yOU GIRLS ARE THE BOMBBBBBBBB
smileee333 3 years ago
yeahh the judges cheated livonia was in first the whole time they took point away from them for being on the floor to long when novi was on the floor longer...who cares if 12 yr old girls wanted to give each other a hug for doin really good performance they did better than some jv teams i think it would be ok to be happy for a bit thats rediculous judges cheated and they have PROOF they wont get away with this...GREAT job livonia congrats on your "1st" ;) dont worry everyone knows you (won) lol
smileee333 3 years ago
isnt obvious who clearly won? Livonia did FENOMANAL.... they dont need judges to tell them they were the best...who cares if they got third...judges can t take away how awesome they were theuy were my favorite team there in my mind they won....girls they diddnt even know were crying becuase it was sooooo good the judges cheated novi was on the flor longer than livonia so how did they get points off from bing on the floor to long? all of you guys are soar winners... to me livonia were the winners
smileee333 3 years ago
ok livonia did great face it everone knows it ....the judges cheated. frankllin pom moms have proof...they video taped the scores becuase they sat behind the judges...and LP was in first the wholeeeee TIME
smileee333 3 years ago
I doubt even half of all of you know exactly what these girls are being judged on. Its not like they were so close to being first any way they were third!!!! THey got huge deductions for timing and adeduction for that girl dropping a pom. Also if the coaches would have pad attention almost all of there stunts were ILLIGAL. Nothing about this is political and all of you know it. GC and livonia almost always wins this is the first time novi has ever won. face it its a little competitin and itsOVER
pompommer 3 years ago 2
They were 3rd because of being over by a few secs. The scores from 1st to 3rd were a couple points and LP was deducted 5 points for those few secs. So they would have won by at least 3.Did you notice it took 5 secs for them to start the music. Look at Novi's kick line. Did Novi mean to have one girl kick by herself and then not kick when everyone else was kicking? Also, love when they throw a girl across the floor just like shooting someone out of a cannon at the circus.
hurricanne1 3 years ago
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coolpeople619 2 years ago
ok. these girls dominated the middle school division, hands down. they did amazing. yea ive heard all that stuff about deductions because of timing or rules, but the fact was lp had amazing snap, heads, coreography & kickline.. and isnt that what pom is about? they should have gotten first. sure ill give it to novi, yea they have improved alot in the past years, but they were not better than lp. those girls did not in any way deserve a third place for the amazing performance they gave out there.
xopommmerxo 3 years ago 2
Livonia pom was ahmazzzzing nobody could be better!!!!....impossible to beet Livonia pom!!!! the judges were defiantly blind!!!!
hockeyany1 3 years ago
are you kidding me? novi middle school was a complete joke! gc was decent but livonia was amazing. those girls did great and had an awesome routine.
malzeeproducerss 3 years ago
i guarentee that the judges you were provided with are not blind! Novi did great, so did garden city face it. i dont even no why you are taking a "pull" when the competiton is already over with. what can you do about it now, your wasting your time
getalife1155 3 years ago
gardencity varsity was amazing hands down, they had the best snap of the day(:
gardencity middleschool wasnt to bad thereselfs, novi did great but so did gardencity, there stunt in first formation was the best(:
livonia back to back thrid baaby(;
maybe they should try(:
pomgirl090 3 years ago
Obviously putter 125 did not watch all the videos....if you had you would clearly see that Livonia had tougher partner moves and nailed them they did not stumble and almost fall. Livonia's kick line was flawless if you notice ALL the girls kicked unlike some teams who's girls did not. Don't worry the truth will come out and it will be know who CLEARLY
won.
hockeyany1 3 years ago 2
livonia was amazing and clearly deserved 1st. that whole timing thing is bs and everyone knows it.
weehald 3 years ago 2
livonia was first, no questions asked. it shouldve been livonia, gcms, then novi. idk what was up with their judges this year! was it really b/c of going over time? b/c if so, they shouldve overlooked that for such an amazing routine and an outstanding performance.
pointedtap 3 years ago 3
Livonia Pom got ripped off...no doubt about it!!!!!!
hockeyany1 3 years ago
I agree all the way!
msuisgreat1 3 years ago