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  • u guys r ahhmazing. i wish our team was as good as u guys. good luck at highkick. my team will see u there! XD

  • i quuit pom so i doesnt even counnt

    anymore livona go have funn...

  • livonia pom is the best of the best. theyre amaaziinnggg

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  • omg i still get the shivvverrs when i watch this! im proud of you LP... love you!

    -sammy

  • i love you guys!!!!and miss you!

    -sammy

  • Ok so i am a garden city middle skool pommer an it waz my frist year an i have to say wat someone already mentioned but u r saying we should of got ponits taken away for a girl a little bit spaced well i dont belive so

  • the girls were GREAT! they should have won!

  • honestly? are you joking?. livonia got 1st. no body cares what the judges say , they judge livonia harder then any other middle school team out there. novis mosh pit? that was a joke. garden city did alright, pretty desent but livonia by far DID AMAZING.

  • heyy girls!!! im from the white pine squad and i say that they did amazing!!! and for the "girls" that are saying crap about them needs to stop!

    great job girls it WAS amazing!!! :D

  • i think that all of this drama is getting a little out of hand. First of all, of course the judges change the scores afterwards. otherwise the scoring wouldnt reallyt be against each team. say team a goes and they are good and get 10s but then team b goes and they are better. the scores should be changed to reflect that.LP i think had a deduction because of time do they may havescored highest but with deduction gotten third. let novi MS enjoy it win :)

  • u did awesome

  • HEY CAMP SISTERS! you guys did amazing, we r so happy :) for u guys! we cant wait to c u guys at our regionals! CONGRATS!! WE LOVE YOU GUYS! ~ from the whole white pine pompon squad :)

  • HEY CAMP SISTERS!! you guys did AWESOME:)! the whole white pine pompon squad is so happy for all of you! we cant wait to c u guys at our regionals. WE LOVE YOU CAMP SISTERS!!!!!!!!

  • okay im from novi and alot of my friends are on novi pom. i think they deserved the win. they practiced hard the point where alot of girls threw up. it was nasty but still. its the first time novi pom ever got 1st place. just be happy for them. lovina did good but still

  • what does throwing up have to do with anything? Alot of teams practice to the point where girls get sick....it does not have anything to do with deserving to win. Congrats to Novi, but not because they "throw up"

  • I want to make it clear that any comments that are thought to be inappropriate or degrading will be removed and user banned from this post.

    All 4 Pom squads were great and all deserve respect.

    I am not out to hurt any Pom squad......

    If you find a comment anywhere in this post deemed degrading or if you feel it is inappropriate please let me know and I will remove it!!!

  • I agree klone666. Pls remember the girls ages. They are all winners. Its for the girls that we are here. Love all the Pom girls.......

  • watch them alll

    1st place- Garden City- 176.5

    2nd place- Livionia- 175.5

    3rd place- Novi- 174.5

    4th place- Byron Center-150

    thats how id place them

  • I looked at all the videos and all these girls did good and you can see that a lot of hard work and dedication has been put into all the routines. As someone who does not know anything about pom, I feel Livonia pom was the best out of the 4 videos I watched. But again that is coming from someone who is not looking to judge but to just see which one I like the best. Not sure where the other teams are from.

  • This is the head coach of Livonia Pom-

    I'm unsure of who put all these videos up here,but I know that none of my current girls have posted or will ever post on here. Lets put an end to all of this talking. I'm very proud of my girls on what they did on Saturday. Everyone remember that all the teams have very young girls.I ask you all to please stop posting these things. Let things get handled the way they are suppose to. Thank you and congrats to all the teams who performed on Saturday.

    -Andrea

  • LP RULES THEY DID AH-MAZING

  • Point them out and I will take care of it.

  • 13eautifulxoxx

  • there was an arguement betweena ll livonia and i. but im done. just drop it. there will be no more languagee.

  • Thunderfoot

    I am all for freedom of speech but the next time you use inappropriate language you will be banned from this site....

  • okay. others are too but okay.

  • Thunderfoot - first of all, you are clearly from GC or Novi, because you seem to know A LOT about the past few years of middle school pom to be from Flint and Brighton.

    And also, you clearly dont know much about pom, seeing as every 3 seconds a pom is on the ground a team loses .5 points. So although it was sloppy, her picking that pom up right away was the right thing to do.

    And you can pick out every mistake in LPs routine, but it still doesnt change the fact they were the best. Sorry.

  • hahahahaa thats it in a nutshell!

  • if they were the best how come they got third? how come they didnt get first like you think they are the best.?

  • Obviously you havent been paying attention. They got third because the judges changed the scores after the competition was over in order to lower Livonia's score. And if you think thats just a loser complaining, wait until the tape comes out.

  • yea. thats what this whole thing is about.. unfair judging.. becasue if those girls were judged purley on talent and how they performed, there would be no question as to who won

  • no questions. livonia and garden city. i overheard a gc mom saying "i wasnt even paying attention to novi, i was concerned of all the talk about livonia, i had no clue who had it!" so there it shows who should have won. lp or gc. i thik gc but thats just me.

  • watch da language kiddo. not necessary.

    and im sure the judges know what they are doing, but they chose not to do it right.

    and tell me honestly, do you think LP did amazing? or even relatively good. if you dont think they should have won, you have no pom experience probably, just my guess.

    but even a NOVI MOM walked up to a LP girl, and said they should have won. I'm not getting cocky about anything. All I'm saying is that they got cheated.

  • kiddo? how old are you. i think honestly gc deserved it. livonia should have got second. but we cant change anything now.

  • LIVONIA POM was amhazzing... who ever was saying that we should have got what we got... obviously you haven't looked at the snappy, and how dificalt the rountine was.. gc did one partner move, novi did i think 2 and one of them a girl almost fell on her face.. atleast the girls on livonia did difficult partner moves and where snappy the whole time.. so what if we where so excited that we huged are coach because we throught it was really good and we where excited..

    I LOVE LIVONIA POM... <<333

  • you neeed to chill out thunderfoot!

  • you need to,

  • i agree. lp was probabally the least cocky team there on saturday.

  • hmm, and what team are you from exactly thunderfoot?

  • I AM NOT FROM A TEAM. I AM 20 YEARS OF AGE AND I LIVE IN BRIGHTON, and go to school in flint. (accidental caps)

  • ATTENTION: No Novi girl is allowed to make a comment to this video or any other of this type.

  • thank you

  • ATTENTION: No Novi girl is allowed to make a comment to this video or any other of this type. Even if you do not pom for Novi please do not make comments.

  • These are talented girls getting screwed over. I'm going to laugh when I see the results, and each one of you that talks crap about LP saying they deserved 3rd feels like an idiot. This is about a bunch of adults acting like 2 year olds, punishing girls that are in 6-8th grade, for being talented.

    and getting excited and hugging eachother, and running to their coaches, after a KICK-ASS performance. NOT FAIR.

  • amennn! :)

  • 13eautiifulxoxx is right!

  • i agree with vballgirl325. im not from any of the teams, but i was at regionals and i have an opinion. however peoples feelings are getting hurt. maybe its best to stop arguing and see what happens.

  • this performance was epic.

    they all did great (:

    especially megan and sam.=P

  • Word on the street is that there will be a meeting by the Livonia coach with the director of Mid American where the video will be shown. Depending on how that goes, it could be shown on YouTube in just a few days so every team that pays to compete through MAPP will know how they run their competitions.

  • again, thunderfoot. that is super mean. this isnt smack talk time about teams. its debating on the scores and fairness... if your going to be mean and flat out dis teams like that, leave.

  • livonia should have won.

    BACK IN BLACK GO LP

    you girls were amazing, and dont let anyone tell you different :)

  • i think livonia was amazing.ppl should stop talking trash about lp coaches. I heard they are really nice and really care about their team.

  • ok, then where is this video of the judges score sheets.

  • yeah okayy? why cant anyone be happy with livonia getting first in high kick and hip hop? god. they beat out gc by four effing points for high kick. if anything was rigged with pom, that was. regionals i give to gc. novis routine was super safe but whats done is done. no changing the scores now.

  • can everyone remember that these girls are in 6th-8th grade!? they're little girls. back to back third and saying "livonia got third again :)" is really rude. you are obviously from novi or gc because if you were a common spectator, you would feel differently about the placings.

  • actually i am from brighton and flint. so thanks but i watched the videos. gc and livonia and novi all did there best and deserved what they got,

  • be quiet:0 u say to much crap,,,, so calm your butt down:)) Livonia should have won,,, from what i saw and read about this team and what they've gone through:) you need to start tellin the truth:) obviously you r from some other team and don't knoe what you r talking about:) Livonia you should have won but judges don't knoe how to add up scores and how to actually judge:) so be queit:) Livonia won in there hearts

  • Again. Mid American (the judges) rigged the scores and there is a video that proves it.

    And honestly, if anyone watches those tapes and truly believes that placings were legitimate, they must not know pom very well. Novi was sloppy, had terrible form, and the routine was not entertaining at all. GC was better than Novi, but still not great. The routine had no cohesion. Livonia deserved the deduction, but if they were judged fairly they would have won despite it.

  • again, mid american are the judges not the audience.

  • Okay, all I wish to say is that Livonia Pom was clearly the better team. I am not from Livonia, but I was at the competition and watched the performances there and on youtube, and it is clear. Even with a 5 point deduction, they still should have won.

    And everyone saying Novi won "fair & square", you might want to wait a few days on that one. There is proof that the judges rigged scores so Livonia wouldn't win, and its only a matter of time until everyone sees it.

  • i agree with pompompompon all the way! the competition is not over yet. we will see who really wins in a few days.

  • my vote is for byron center :) nice job ladies. way to go!

  • the competiton is already over with.theres nothing ANYBODY can do about it now thats why theres a such thing called JUDGES, NOVI took 1st place and i am very happy for them.GARDEN CITY took 2nd place they did GREAT also.once again livonia got 3rd(: all teams did a great job.everyone tried there hardest.but you can tell who really practiced by REALLY watching the performances not on the computer. also you cannot tell who should when by watching a little video. theres no point in being poor sports

  • ok you are really mean... back to back third? really? how immature can you get... livonia totally deserved better than third, as they did better than both gc and novi... lp even did better than some of the varsity teams out there. its sad the judges had to do that to their score to make sure they wouldnt win.even the audience knew who should have won, you could feel it in they gym when the places were announced.

  • judges arent stupid. so shut up. seriously? they got third last year and this year. just because it was andreas last year. well maybe she should have done a better job of coaching. maybe those girls should hold on to their poms? and not make their routine so long. its their fault and all places earned were deserved.!

  • are you kidding?

    there was ONE dropped pom, and it was recovered great. and andrea is a great coach it has nothing to do with it being her last year.

  • are you kidding? there was ONE dropped pom and it was recovered great. and andrea is a great coach, it has nothing to do with it being her last year.

  • oooooooooookayyy. the dropped pom was grabbed and the girl went to the wrong spot after she noticably bent over to grab it. and they already made the hand sign before competeion saying they ha one this year. they get to cocky over just a competeition.

  • first off, andreas a great coach. and what do you want the girl to do, let the pom sit there? the right thing to do was pick it up and thats what she did.

    good job lp

  • yes once a pom is dropped they should pick it up when the have a messy squat or something to be less noticeable.

  • I think Livonia Pom deserved first. All the teams were really good, but walking off the floor wrong shouldn't take away first place from these girls. I understand its a deduction, but it shouldn't seperate first from third! The judges are much harder on Livonia Pom, and judged unfairly. GO LP!

  • what do you agree with? let the website speak for itself. that website will hold all the answers instead of rumors being spread through comments on youtube.

  • thank you pompommer.

    When you win, you get a trophy for your success. We cant deny a team of that.

  • Wht do you expect themto do throw the trophy in the garbage? ignore it? No novi won the trophy fair and square no matter how much you deny it i dont think they have to apoligize for winning

  • ALL THE TEAMS DID THEIR BEST!! there is no need to dis any of the teams for what they did on the floor. If you love the sport of pom, there is no need to bash any of the teams for what they did. Just leave this whole situation alone, its so not worth it. That just means next year, everyone will be bring out all the stops to win. GOOD JOB TO EVERYONE.

    And dont forget, livonia, already won high kick, and the hip hop compettition, they should be thankful for winning something.

    CONGRATS TO ALL!

  • the judges do not stop th time untill every grl crosses the black line if you watch they are on the floor untill 3:36 again you do gt a diduction for going on the spectators side of thegym

  • According to a video i saw, Novi was still on the floor at 3 minutes and 10 seconds when the video shut off. I guess we will see when the scores get posted on Mid Americans website.

  • to tell all of you novi did get a 5 pt deduction o their stunt

  • May I ask how you know this??

  • my ousins on novi and she came over after every practice and told me all of this

  • What did your "ousins" come and tell you after every practice from Novi?

  • they didnt get a serious deduction. the staff and judges reviewed the tapes many times thinking it was illegal but let it go.

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  • yea i agree. telling her girls to cross the black line was probabally the thing their coach was worrying least about... and the girls were just so excited they didnt even stop to think about it

  • Wow, I just watched all 4 routines and I do not even know what the question is. Livonia Pom obviously was the best one. There performance was harder, sharper, all the girls were together on all the moves. Novi's kickline was off due to the girl who kicked by herself. Garden City's kick line started with the girls on the left too far apart and then they squished together. I could not stop laughing when I saw in the video when Novi threw the girl across the floor. My vote is for Livonia Pom!!!

  • woow. your saying gc was bad cause a girl was a tiny bit too spaced out in kickline? thats not even a good enough reason to say they were bad. gc did good. and just becuase one girl was out too far? thats the sumbest reason i ever heard.

  • they did amazing, but at the coaches meetings they did say they needed to cross the black line in order for the time to stop. sooo maybe there coach didnt tell them?

  • i also think it is unfair.. wether the judges want to admit it or not, they judge lp harder than the middle school other teams, everyone knows that. its unfair that just because a team is wearing s certain uniform they are being criticised for every little thing they do wrong, things other teams would get away with.

  • yeah right all middle schools are judged the same. livonia did do good. and so did garden city. but novi?...sorry but it wasnt good....good job lp &+ gc

  • i agree with smileee333 the mosh pit thing novi did was completely rediculious, i watched the girl practically fall flat on her face. it wasnt even pom.. THAT should have been a deduction.. and your complaining about lp's stunts being illegal?

    & lp you guys did greatt. ;) everyone at regionals knows you deserved better

  • Novi did get a 5 pt deduction on that even though a rep from mid american said that novi did not have an illigal stunt

  • totally agree with you hurrican1..at leats livonia didnt have a mosh pit with girls flying out flat on their faces hahahaha....i LOVE livonia <3

  • Thank you for agreeing with me smileee333!! I love you who ever you are! We thought the same thing about the mosh pit. lol I just can't stop watching all the performances! Livonia is still my favorite!

  • yeah...i know one of the girls on staff and she said that novi's stunt was going to be considered illegal.

  • may i make an emphasis on this one more time:

    LIVONIA WON FRANKLIN PARENTSHAVE PROOF THEY VIDEO TAPED THE SCORES FROM SITTIN GBEHINF THE JUDGES..LIVONIA WAS IN 1st THE whole TIME... GOOD JOB GIRLSi love your routiene

    congrats on your first place livonia

    BACK IN BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!

  • YOU ALL KNOW LIONIA WON FRANKLOIN HAS PROOF OF THE SCORES LIVONIA WAS IN FIST THW WHOLE TIME I LOVE LIVONIA POM yOU GIRLS ARE THE BOMBBBBBBBB

  • yeahh the judges cheated livonia was in first the whole time they took point away from them for being on the floor to long when novi was on the floor longer...who cares if 12 yr old girls wanted to give each other a hug for doin really good performance they did better than some jv teams i think it would be ok to be happy for a bit thats rediculous judges cheated and they have PROOF they wont get away with this...GREAT job livonia congrats on your "1st" ;) dont worry everyone knows you (won) lol

  • isnt obvious who clearly won? Livonia did FENOMANAL.... they dont need judges to tell them they were the best...who cares if they got third...judges can t take away how awesome they were theuy were my favorite team there in my mind they won....girls they diddnt even know were crying becuase it was sooooo good the judges cheated novi was on the flor longer than livonia so how did they get points off from bing on the floor to long? all of you guys are soar winners... to me livonia were the winners

  • ok livonia did great face it everone knows it ....the judges cheated. frankllin pom moms have proof...they video taped the scores becuase they sat behind the judges...and LP was in first the wholeeeee TIME

  • I doubt even half of all of you know exactly what these girls are being judged on. Its not like they were so close to being first any way they were third!!!! THey got huge deductions for timing and adeduction for that girl dropping a pom. Also if the coaches would have pad attention almost all of there stunts were ILLIGAL. Nothing about this is political and all of you know it. GC and livonia almost always wins this is the first time novi has ever won. face it its a little competitin and itsOVER

  • They were 3rd because of being over by a few secs. The scores from 1st to 3rd were a couple points and LP was deducted 5 points for those few secs. So they would have won by at least 3.Did you notice it took 5 secs for them to start the music. Look at Novi's kick line. Did Novi mean to have one girl kick by herself and then not kick when everyone else was kicking? Also, love when they throw a girl across the floor just like shooting someone out of a cannon at the circus.

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  • ok. these girls dominated the middle school division, hands down. they did amazing. yea ive heard all that stuff about deductions because of timing or rules, but the fact was lp had amazing snap, heads, coreography & kickline.. and isnt that what pom is about? they should have gotten first. sure ill give it to novi, yea they have improved alot in the past years, but they were not better than lp. those girls did not in any way deserve a third place for the amazing performance they gave out there.

  • Livonia pom was ahmazzzzing nobody could be better!!!!....impossible to beet Livonia pom!!!! the judges were defiantly blind!!!!

  • are you kidding me? novi middle school was a complete joke! gc was decent but livonia was amazing. those girls did great and had an awesome routine.

  • i guarentee that the judges you were provided with are not blind! Novi did great, so did garden city face it. i dont even no why you are taking a "pull" when the competiton is already over with. what can you do about it now, your wasting your time

  • gardencity varsity was amazing hands down, they had the best snap of the day(:

    gardencity middleschool wasnt to bad thereselfs, novi did great but so did gardencity, there stunt in first formation was the best(:

    livonia back to back thrid baaby(;

    maybe they should try(:

  • Obviously putter 125 did not watch all the videos....if you had you would clearly see that Livonia had tougher partner moves and nailed them they did not stumble and almost fall. Livonia's kick line was flawless if you notice ALL the girls kicked unlike some teams who's girls did not. Don't worry the truth will come out and it will be know who CLEARLY

    won.

  • livonia was amazing and clearly deserved 1st. that whole timing thing is bs and everyone knows it.

  • livonia was first, no questions asked. it shouldve been livonia, gcms, then novi. idk what was up with their judges this year! was it really b/c of going over time? b/c if so, they shouldve overlooked that for such an amazing routine and an outstanding performance.

  • Livonia Pom got ripped off...no doubt about it!!!!!!

  • I agree all the way!

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