after i watched this video Approximating a function with a Taylor Polynomial, my insight is very open because the video is very good to give information
I had the assigned notes on this for my calculus course, but I couldn't understand. I read it over, and over, and gave a week space in between so I can have a fresh look at the concept of Taylors Polynomial. I heard your site, checked out on how you were teaching the concept... and wow... best 18 minutes of my life spent ACADEMICALLY! Thank you.
Hey Sal! Amazing video. Why did you make the assumption that if the 0th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th derivative is = to the function, then it perfectly = the function? I get the intuition behind it, and I can see it work very well on the graph. But surely there must be a proof, right?
The nth derivative is not equal to the function. It's equal to the function at c. As the nth derivative approaches infinity, not only does p(x) equal f(x) at c, but some of the terms near c of p(x) are close to the terms of f(x) near c. The more derivatives, the closer the values near c of p(x) are to the values near c of f(x) and the farther from c you can approximate. Theoretically, taking infinite derivatives will make the two functions equal for all x.
@kckdude2 Thanks for that kck. You're right, p(x) = f(x) at c if you take enough derivatives. But I don't understand how taking infinite derivatives will make 2 functions equal each other for all x. I can understand them being equal to either other at c or at c+epsilon or at c - epsilon. I think it's one thing to say they're the same at a point, but another to claim they're the same over the entire domain. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm claiming I still don't quite get it :S
What about the Lagrange Remainder! I understand all this but I can't make sense of lagrange remainder.. I know it's supposed to give you a better approximation but I don't understand the equation for it! How do you actually use it?
What Sal does at 9:04 is one of the things that make it so easy to learn from him. He clarifies why he is using sin(1) even though it would be obvious to a lot of people. Teachers generally assume that the students know the reasoning behind every single step in their calculations, which isn't always the case.
@hardpulse yes. the denominator in the terms of the taylor series is n! which is n-factorial. as an example say n=2, well 2! is the same as writing 2*1=2, as it goes, 3! is the same as writing: 3*2*1=6 but then again you proably realize this by now, as it has been a week
Nicely stitched video. Taylor taylored a polynomial fabric that overwhelms the imagination. What is the meaning of an "nth derivative," for example? The graphs help you begin to see what's going on! Taylor Polynomials aren't just "sew sew." They are awe-inspiring! May the nth derivative be with you!
That was phenomenal! I am enlightened!! I wish I had known about khanacademy before struggling through all these calc lectures! Thank you sooo much! :)
I would advise people to really learn Taylor polynomials as they show up a lot in later engineering and math courses. I'm watching this to be able to do my Diff. Eq. homework.
thank you so much...i just watched every series video and it makes perfect sense now. my ap calc test is this Wednesday and i was flipping out cause everytime i took a practice free response i just completely skipped the series question and was getting no points for it, not to mention the multiple choice. thses videos are great and e^(ipi) + 1 = o ...wtf?!
Could you possible explain the error term when approximating a function only to the nth derivative. I've got something about it in my notes but it doesn't really make sense to me.
Brook Taylor (1685-1731) did not invent Taylor series and Maclaurin series were not developed by Colin Maclaurin (698-1746). James Gregory wa already working With Taylor series whenTaylor was only a few years old, and he published the Maclaurin series for tanx secx, arctanx, and arcsecx ten years before Maclaurin was born.
lol ahah me too. random question though cuz its insane we have a math final on the same day with the same stuff... do you happen to go to the university of saskatchewan? that would be kind of insane.
Sorry, I don't I'm going to the university of south florida. Took my exam today, didn't feel so good as compared to my physics exam which i took earlier. We have the hardest tests of all the other teachers in my class for CALCULUS II and I think I've gotten a C or low B on the test. Okay b/c I got A's on my previous Exams! :D
I attend WPI and I still turn to these vids. Professors just don't explain enough the practical side of math or they submerge you in way too much math theory. Thanks Sal!!!
Thank you; I understand Taylor polynomials much better now. Could you possibly do a video on Taylor's formula with remainder and the Lagrange remainder formula? I need help understanding it. Thank you!
nice explanation ,thanks a lot i knew how to calculate taylor's polynomial but i did'nt knew what it is used for ,please do a detailed lecture on curve tracing to trace curve of any type of function
me too. They never tell you exactly why, or they brush over it puting far more emphasis on how to do it. Personally i think that way of teaching is rediculous. Whats the point of knowing if you dont know what to do with it?
isn't this a way to find the equation for the tangent line at a point if you just use the first two terms(term 0 and 1) and then do some simple arithmetic?
when u add each term, are you adding it to all the other terms or are u just graphing it by itself? that is, was the second approximation p(x) = cos1 - sin1(x-a) or was it p(x)=-sin1(x-a)??? i think ur doing the latter... in which case, wouldn't the, say, 100th derivative be a really small constant times (x-1)^100?
I did the former. Each added term contributes to the approximation and doesn't replace it. So the approximation with 100 terms would be much better than the approximation with 2 terms.
oh okay... so ur really just adding more terms to the approximation, not coming up with completely new and different ones. So let's say f(c)= 5 for example... so p'(c)=3, p''(c) = 4, p'''(c)=4.5, p''''(c) - 4.8.... and p'''''''''''''''''(c) = 4.99999999.... IS that kind of how this works? each new approximation corresponding to a higer derivative will be a better approximation of the value of the function, at point 'c', than the last??? am i getting it?
I reviewed these videos again, and understand it now. Indeed, even the approximation at n=0, that is, where it's just a straight line or constant, is equal to the function at point c. Making the approximations better by adding more terms gives you better approximations at points "near" c and, with even better approximations with more terms, further away from point c. THANKS SAL!
Hey sal, can you upload some videos where you do the ratio test for a taylor polynomial?
would be much appreciated :)
Tanai7 1 day ago
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kojelja0 2 weeks ago
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heyjack7 1 month ago
dude.... Thank you so much!!!
appninja9828 2 months ago
I had the assigned notes on this for my calculus course, but I couldn't understand. I read it over, and over, and gave a week space in between so I can have a fresh look at the concept of Taylors Polynomial. I heard your site, checked out on how you were teaching the concept... and wow... best 18 minutes of my life spent ACADEMICALLY! Thank you.
EntertainmentERA 2 months ago
Thank you SO MUCH. I've been trying to understand this concept for too long );
GettinCocoa 2 months ago
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dbshxjo 2 months ago
Now, this was easy :D Thanks :D
PeKei 2 months ago
Holy shit O.O
I've not gone to a single lesson we have so far because the teacher is so bad, and i think i'm about to pass the whole course just by your videos.
jerrypower 3 months ago
thanks a lot, you did a great job of explaining! A+ Video
hukedonfoniks 3 months ago
Math suck I hate it.
doobiebotha 3 months ago
Hey Sal! Amazing video. Why did you make the assumption that if the 0th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th derivative is = to the function, then it perfectly = the function? I get the intuition behind it, and I can see it work very well on the graph. But surely there must be a proof, right?
someonetoogoodforyou 4 months ago
@someonetoogoodforyou
The nth derivative is not equal to the function. It's equal to the function at c. As the nth derivative approaches infinity, not only does p(x) equal f(x) at c, but some of the terms near c of p(x) are close to the terms of f(x) near c. The more derivatives, the closer the values near c of p(x) are to the values near c of f(x) and the farther from c you can approximate. Theoretically, taking infinite derivatives will make the two functions equal for all x.
kckdude2 3 months ago
@kckdude2 Thanks for that kck. You're right, p(x) = f(x) at c if you take enough derivatives. But I don't understand how taking infinite derivatives will make 2 functions equal each other for all x. I can understand them being equal to either other at c or at c+epsilon or at c - epsilon. I think it's one thing to say they're the same at a point, but another to claim they're the same over the entire domain. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm claiming I still don't quite get it :S
someonetoogoodforyou 3 months ago
Oh that's just great..now after weeks...countless hours...and lim (brainpain --> oo), I find this.
Great work!
BobcatBootyBeat 4 months ago
thank you so so much.... my professor < you
kcho0525 5 months ago
What about the Lagrange Remainder! I understand all this but I can't make sense of lagrange remainder.. I know it's supposed to give you a better approximation but I don't understand the equation for it! How do you actually use it?
OZZl3 5 months ago
this 18 minutes teached me more than the 2 hours i wasted today in the school lyrbrary
SahaquieI3 5 months ago
You make so much more sense than my Bus Cal 2 prof
jbsg01 5 months ago
Taylor Gang or Die
markisfreshh 6 months ago
Walnuts: the arch nemesis of learning calculus!
THemoauveavenger 6 months ago 23
@THemoauveavenger deez nuts: the arch nemesis of learning calculus!
freestyledavid47 6 days ago
closed caption ftw
supercalifragilismic 7 months ago
in 18 minutes you taught me a whole chapter of my maths book that my lecturer couldn't teach me in a 2 hour lecture.
thanks sal!
andrewtcb1 7 months ago 27
brilliant
Bashy14 8 months ago
what software he uses to plot the graph????
alisaffah 8 months ago
@alisaffah Listen to what he says!!! He uses a website
Chat2Conaz 7 months ago
@alisaffah the Snake Game
MeSooCrazyy 7 months ago
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@alisaffah @alisaffah haha,i thought you wouldn't get this joke^^,sorry :P
MeSooCrazyy 7 months ago
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no prob brother, i'm funny guy ;)
alisaffah 7 months ago
@alisaffah take care :)
MeSooCrazyy 7 months ago
Walnuts: The Kryptonite to all mathematicians.
JcWongAndCompany 8 months ago
love your videos!!! thank you very much!!! Knowledge is for humans!!! :D... greetings from mexico
c4chus 8 months ago
My school actually sent an email to everyone to watch your videos to prepare for our finals!
MsOrangePen 8 months ago 2
wow.....now i get it....thank you Master
KillenEMsoftly 8 months ago
do you have any videos explaining the taylor remainder formula from Sal?
seekluv 8 months ago
walnuts lol, you should still try not to cough into the mic tho dude, great vid anyway
Liaomiao 8 months ago
damn walnuts
avh129 9 months ago
Or their professor doesn't actually teach and just talks about hockey and Shakespeare the whole class...
mirukufy 9 months ago
professor?? nah, i have a TEACHER. that's right, i'm in high school. get sum
JThor001 9 months ago
@JThor001 I'm in 8th grade. I win.
jkid1134 9 months ago
@jkid1134 That's too young... You don't need this stuff in Middle School---- child
JThor001 9 months ago
how do power series differ from the taylor or maclaurin series?
BlingBlingDubuLove 10 months ago
THE SO ONTH DERIVATIVE!!!
nigtasticbasedgod902 10 months ago
Just wanted to say, I bet the reason everybody is on this video is because their professors make it SO difficult to understand.
This makes it look SO easy so thanks again Sal =)
BoQuan22 10 months ago 3
Or their professor may be of Asian decent.... like mine
harodon15 10 months ago
Amazing, had no clue what was going on until this video.
RAF0769 10 months ago
tanx for the lecture mr. khan, i like your teachin alot....
its helps me more than my boring ass lecturer
Ichimaru666Gin 10 months ago
What Sal does at 9:04 is one of the things that make it so easy to learn from him. He clarifies why he is using sin(1) even though it would be obvious to a lot of people. Teachers generally assume that the students know the reasoning behind every single step in their calculations, which isn't always the case.
Thanks a lot, Sal.
lightzebra 11 months ago
I don't understand how you come up with the values you use to divide the function (2, 6, 24). Could someone please elaborate?
hardpulse 1 year ago
@hardpulse yes. the denominator in the terms of the taylor series is n! which is n-factorial. as an example say n=2, well 2! is the same as writing 2*1=2, as it goes, 3! is the same as writing: 3*2*1=6 but then again you proably realize this by now, as it has been a week
marcsijames 11 months ago
Now you just taught me in 18 mins, what my Maths professor wasn´t able to teach me in like 3 lectures of 90 mins each! Thanks!
JCP598 1 year ago
Thank you very much! I read the book but could not understand until I watched this video!
MrAlexhusa 1 year ago
God bless you!!!
shiza223 1 year ago
8 words: thanks very much for this video.
sweet explanation.
myonlynick 1 year ago
The graphing calculator is at url dot ie forwardslash 8kav
billybaloop 1 year ago
thank you!!!!!!!!! Im having my calculus final tomorrow and you saved my life!!!!!!
tmtimi 1 year ago
Thank you so much!
yummyyop 1 year ago
THIS SHOULD BE PRETTY NEAT! haha
Navt 1 year ago
NOW thats the intuition behind the taylor! thx
ny1fanta 1 year ago
Nicely stitched video. Taylor taylored a polynomial fabric that overwhelms the imagination. What is the meaning of an "nth derivative," for example? The graphs help you begin to see what's going on! Taylor Polynomials aren't just "sew sew." They are awe-inspiring! May the nth derivative be with you!
lexinaut 1 year ago
I seeee. Its APPROXIMATING..A FUNCTION. Thanksss
freak1east 1 year ago
u should have had some water with those walnuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bennybonge 1 year ago
lmao @ 'if it didnt ignore this vid...' srly who wouldnt understand after that comprehensive session... thanks heaps sal... thanks...
sasamuraki 1 year ago
That was phenomenal! I am enlightened!! I wish I had known about khanacademy before struggling through all these calc lectures! Thank you sooo much! :)
tyler153796 1 year ago
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harshanamanju 1 year ago
I would advise people to really learn Taylor polynomials as they show up a lot in later engineering and math courses. I'm watching this to be able to do my Diff. Eq. homework.
MrVoiceofreason123 1 year ago
"but hopefully that gave you some intuition"
"if it didn't, ignore this video."
HAHAH
really helpful, btw. reading from the textbook, it's hard to understand.
angel209056 1 year ago
thanks for the video. I like how you apply the equation directly into a graph, thanks
duckboy81 1 year ago
is there mouse lag for anyone else in these videos?
kyjstout 1 year ago
thanks, lots of help :)
expelliarmus007 1 year ago
why cant you come teach at my uni?
makmegs 1 year ago 2
@makmegs Don't be selfish. Your not the only one that needs his help.
TotliTotli 1 year ago
@TotliTotli Are you being serious?
makmegs 1 year ago
@makmegs yes
TotliTotli 1 year ago
My exam is in 2 and a half hours and i only just learned taylors method from this video. thanks man.
Kian0877950795 1 year ago 2
wow thank you so much, my ap exam is in 3 days and i had NO idea how to do series before, just skipped all of the questions.
watchingstupidshit 1 year ago
thank you so much...i just watched every series video and it makes perfect sense now. my ap calc test is this Wednesday and i was flipping out cause everytime i took a practice free response i just completely skipped the series question and was getting no points for it, not to mention the multiple choice. thses videos are great and e^(ipi) + 1 = o ...wtf?!
watchingstupidshit 1 year ago
THANK YOU. I'm struggling with my AP.
battlenix 1 year ago
Could you possible explain the error term when approximating a function only to the nth derivative. I've got something about it in my notes but it doesn't really make sense to me.
E3tiger 1 year ago
key to understanding calculus=walnuts!
TimesNuRoman 1 year ago
thank you very much, big help on explaining, especially for a freshman first year =D
sammytsai 1 year ago
o! so does the taylor theorem guarantee al function can be rewrite into a polynomial?
13000000a 1 year ago
thank you so much! bullshit at the end how can I possibly ignore this video you explain so well I totally need this!
thanks a lot!
13000000a 1 year ago
Oh and Sal btw,
Brook Taylor (1685-1731) did not invent Taylor series and Maclaurin series were not developed by Colin Maclaurin (698-1746). James Gregory wa already working With Taylor series whenTaylor was only a few years old, and he published the Maclaurin series for tanx secx, arctanx, and arcsecx ten years before Maclaurin was born.
121212w 1 year ago
I thought cos x was a Maclaurin series
OntologicalQuandary 1 year ago
"sorry, i just had some walnuts..."
glimpses into the mind of a genius. lol.
deathbystarship 1 year ago 6
Thanks! :)
valuhweeex3 1 year ago
me to me : "congratulations , you are officially a person who understands what Taylor approximation mean at last !!!"
me to Sal : no need to thank you , I guess you know what it means to give the gift of understanding to another person
g1code 2 years ago
Basic but well done! I have to relearn multi variable taylor now..
MrNightLifeLover 2 years ago
neat
DarkSun260 2 years ago
fantastic the best maths teacher
annie14411 2 years ago
thank you so so so much !! didn't make many of my 8:30 am lectures finals tomorrow !! you're a saviour
thekaybee09 2 years ago
@thekaybee09 lol mine is on wedneday
13000000a 1 year ago
final calc exam tomorrow, never learned this stuff... combination of you + my book = win :>
saionjik 2 years ago
lol ahah me too. random question though cuz its insane we have a math final on the same day with the same stuff... do you happen to go to the university of saskatchewan? that would be kind of insane.
thepakman 2 years ago
Sorry, I don't I'm going to the university of south florida. Took my exam today, didn't feel so good as compared to my physics exam which i took earlier. We have the hardest tests of all the other teachers in my class for CALCULUS II and I think I've gotten a C or low B on the test. Okay b/c I got A's on my previous Exams! :D
saionjik 2 years ago
Did you fail?
xxxcoolboyxxx 2 years ago
lol walnuts.
Another Masterpiece Sal, keep it up! :)
SpawnZer0 2 years ago 41
thanks : ) helped me big time.
Harrison716 2 years ago
I attend WPI and I still turn to these vids. Professors just don't explain enough the practical side of math or they submerge you in way too much math theory. Thanks Sal!!!
ncastle4 2 years ago 2
Things like this are the reason i love math
roc788 2 years ago
Math rocks.
saionjik 2 years ago 2
I love u
guzzbar 2 years ago
nice, thank you
Forestmyst 2 years ago
Thank you; I understand Taylor polynomials much better now. Could you possibly do a video on Taylor's formula with remainder and the Lagrange remainder formula? I need help understanding it. Thank you!
whistlelana 2 years ago
thanks! my text book didn't explain this very well and confused HELL out of me.
videoofmike 2 years ago
I love it!
Hampeps 2 years ago
"I ate too many walnuts..." - Classic!
Thanks for the help sal!
Ambarenya13 2 years ago 3
Thank you!! You are so awsome!! FINALLY I know why I have to learn this and how to use it!
02280228 2 years ago
i love you.
you are the reason a never ever have to go to math lectures/tutorials :D
c00kiemonsters 2 years ago
great job teacher -_-
tfou3lakmara 2 years ago
where is that proof of e^i*pi = -1?
Dynamics18 2 years ago
part 7
Poke4Poker 2 years ago
@Dynamics18 type it in you calculator dude
your mind will be blown
kurrizzle 1 year ago
ok that helped a lot
But I still have trouble finding a degree. Like 3rd degree taylor polynomial of 2*Sin x @ x = (3pi)/2
lifeisgood070 2 years ago
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
bll93 2 years ago
bloody brilliant Sal.
This is how math should be taught.
Ukapx 2 years ago 3
thank you so much!! my math books are too theoretical for me, i cant understand anything in there ;), but your vids are helping me alot!
elburro1887 2 years ago
thanks so much! you're so much better then my professor :)
ibizaboyz 2 years ago
no more wallnuts for you! this video was great
postaboy506 2 years ago
Really great, Though I am not a native english speaker i finally understand it. Much better than in our university. please keep on doing those videos
schnewitchen666 2 years ago 2
nice explanation ,thanks a lot i knew how to calculate taylor's polynomial but i did'nt knew what it is used for ,please do a detailed lecture on curve tracing to trace curve of any type of function
chrstnrnld 2 years ago
me too. They never tell you exactly why, or they brush over it puting far more emphasis on how to do it. Personally i think that way of teaching is rediculous. Whats the point of knowing if you dont know what to do with it?
Dynamics18 2 years ago
cool! =D
Ren520 3 years ago
wallnuts!
Nanumir 3 years ago 3
great, better than the teachers.
AakiBibo 3 years ago 20
couldn't agree more
gremlinextreme101 3 years ago 2
How can i expand sinx by validating power series expansion?
roshan2004 3 years ago
isn't this a way to find the equation for the tangent line at a point if you just use the first two terms(term 0 and 1) and then do some simple arithmetic?
sikory 3 years ago
nice intuition btw!
diwr 3 years ago
mmm walnuts
diwr 3 years ago
when u add each term, are you adding it to all the other terms or are u just graphing it by itself? that is, was the second approximation p(x) = cos1 - sin1(x-a) or was it p(x)=-sin1(x-a)??? i think ur doing the latter... in which case, wouldn't the, say, 100th derivative be a really small constant times (x-1)^100?
brco2003 3 years ago
I did the former. Each added term contributes to the approximation and doesn't replace it. So the approximation with 100 terms would be much better than the approximation with 2 terms.
khanacademy 3 years ago 4
oh okay... so ur really just adding more terms to the approximation, not coming up with completely new and different ones. So let's say f(c)= 5 for example... so p'(c)=3, p''(c) = 4, p'''(c)=4.5, p''''(c) - 4.8.... and p'''''''''''''''''(c) = 4.99999999.... IS that kind of how this works? each new approximation corresponding to a higer derivative will be a better approximation of the value of the function, at point 'c', than the last??? am i getting it?
brco2003 3 years ago
Adding more terms makes the approximation of the function better at all points (not just at C). Even with just the first term, P(c)=f(c).
khanacademy 3 years ago 2
I reviewed these videos again, and understand it now. Indeed, even the approximation at n=0, that is, where it's just a straight line or constant, is equal to the function at point c. Making the approximations better by adding more terms gives you better approximations at points "near" c and, with even better approximations with more terms, further away from point c. THANKS SAL!
brco2003 3 years ago 2
thanks
brco2003 3 years ago