The bible says " of life and death chose life". Man up to your choice and accept the concequences of your actions. Make your choice and move on, there's nothing to argue about.
E.G. Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things
Do you believe what you read, or do you try to find a meaning that fits your belief.
The bible has been completely discredited and disregarded by all scientist and historians. They spred fear and lies. They openly tell you that all you have to do is ignore you intellect. If these crazy people had thier way, we would be reliving the dark ages. They encourage you to shut off your brain, chock everything up to God or satan. Its separatism, bigotry, and intellectually stunting. People like this just want to celebrate thier ignorace and tell everyone else what they can or can't do.
"We'll teach you how to bypass the intellect, the place of argument, and speak directly to the conscience, the place of the knowledge of right and wrong."
The likelihood comes from the fanatical embrace of a father for forgiveness combined with active homophobia. Often people are misled into religion through a same sex encounter later regretted.
The Haggard Syndrome is quite common in radical religious conversions which involve an extreme anti-homosexual rhetoric.
So do you have any actual, verifiable proof that they are closet homosexuals?
Note that they are not specifically anti-homosexual or homophobic. In their TV episode on homosexuality (it is on YouTube I believe), they decry the the Westboro hate group and anyone who specifically says homosexuality is a sin above sins. It is not. Lying is just as damning as homosexuality, and perhaps more so as few today find a problem with "little white lies" or "stretching the truth."
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Wow Ray and Kirk have such inspiring positive message to share! NOT!
These two must be blasts at parties to hang out with. LOL...I could just see it now. Everyone is having a good time at a party, and these two start talking about Jesus and hell. Hopefully someone will show them the way to the door..LOL..
It's not easy for man to depart from his/her sin -- and it is quite often that they act the way you just did. What is more important the party or spending an eternity in Hell? It is too bad that they aren't showing up at more parties around the world to warn of the judgment to come. When he says that you must bypass the intellect he is referring to the part of the brain that justifies his/her sinful ways.
I wouldn't be bragging that if I was you. Cause if you're a match for the "way of the master" then you're still not amounting to much.
I just came here to find a short video clip that demonstrates that most people's critical reasoning skills are so poor that they can't even respond to grossly fallacious argument. No wonder our Republic's in so much trouble.
I don't know about you guys but I want to go to a better place because here on earth we have people lying, robbing, murdering etc. but those who really believe in Jesus Christ have had their lives transformed for better and this is a fact! Thank you Jesus for forgiving me of my sins and for dying for me!
If it's a fact then were is the evidence for it? Whenever I hear of some one's life being changing through Christ it's always in an extremely trivial way, and nothing in your comment would lead me to believe that you're capable of providing me with any example that's more significant.
Does it bother anyone else that they say "intellectuals" like it is a bad word? The intellect is the single thing that separates us from lower forms of animals, it is our greatest attribute and should be given the respect it deserves. It should not be "circumnavigated" like some sort of inconvenience, it should be utilized to gain knowledge and wisdom.
When speaking to christians their main push for me to believe is for the promise of heaven and the advoidance of hell. If those weren't the two main reasons for being "Christ like", then why are they the most preached doctrines? This is what gives credit to the preaching fear theory. How would you feel if people treated you good based on a reward or punish .
Let's assume that there is a place called heaven , in the bible there is a WAR in heaven , if heaven is a perfect paradise how could there be war , and why would i want to go there? How could i be happy in heaven knowing that maybe some of my loved ones , my brother , my friends were all suffering in hell?
Those are good questions, but the war is not IN heaven..it WAS in heaven and has moved to earth and now we are involved. Unfortunatley, those who end up in hell made that choice on their own. It would make me sad to see friends and family there too, but me being there in torment with them is not going to change the torment they're in. If I don't want them to suffer, I have to point them to the truth..It's up to them to recieve it.
i understand that what you are doing by trying to witness to people is based on your fear of hell , and that you would not want any of your loved ones to "burn"
but assuming that you take the bible literally , or at least take the parts literally that you are told to by your pastor , then you should understand that there are people , that no matter what they do , they are going to go to hell. not everyone will be saved.
i understand there is not a war IN heaven , but the fact that there WAS a war means there is the possibility of another war , how could a perfect paradise have a war in the first place?
Dictionary of Sin: transgression of theological principles: an act, thought, or way of behaving that goes against the law or teachings of a religion, especially when the person who commits it is aware of this
This is what Jesus Christ did for you, you were the one guilty, sinning against the Holy GOD, and Jesus took your punishment instead and paid the fine for you so you can go to heaven. But if you don't your attitude towards GOD is arrogant and puffed up, your heart is obviously hardend and you have not ask GOD for forgiveness nor have you recieved Jesus Christ as your saviour.
If you're so brave, can you nail your hands to a cross, have metal, sharp thorns around your head piercing through your brain, have your toes nailed and your arm joints pulled and have your flesh cut off by metal chains and bleed to death on the cross with dehydration and stay on the cross like that until you die?? If you say "yes I can" than we all know that you're being self-righteous and lying to your own conscience.
Because god loves you so much that he will cause you to burn for all eternity simply because you didn't do everything exactly the way he said. Because you were not a god robot, you deserve to burn. Join our religion! Don't stop to think! Just join because we threatened you with our scary story!!!
These people are intellectually vacuous and that's why they have to avoid the intellect of those they prey upon.
First off, don't straw man their arguments. Secondly, I am a physics major in college, so I don't tend to think I'm "intellectually vacuous," which is also an unwarranted personal attack.
If God loves humanity, He must be just and punish wrong-doing.
Exactly man, He MUST punish wrong doing it is called sin. He will punish sin wherever it is found, sin is not something big like physical murder. Sin is a act of disobience towards authority. In this case God, the ten commandments show you what sin is to you (us). And who God is, perfect,holy and righteous. check out next comment.
those mocking, what is so funny to you, you or your own folks being not saved & ending up in eternal hellfire?If you only knew the TRUTH,the TRUTH would set you free.
Look at it this way..if these "mockers" were truly not interested in Christ they would not be wasting their time pulling up these videos and making comments. They are really interested..just afraid so they become angry at us.
Sorry..they become angry with themselves, so they lash out at others. Sort of like a person being backed into a corner with no way out. These people are crying out for help and we need to be there to show them what Christ has to offer.
The bible clearly says that the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness. They are seeking, and God is knocking on their hearts. We pray that the holy spirit will open their eyes.. before I became a Christian I thought the bible was very hard to read, was a bunch of crap..etc. Not now, because I see God moving in my life.
I pray in the name of the holy spirit. That your eyes would be opened to the real and depth of the Lord. I pray your eyes will be opened to the Love of God. I ask this all in Jesus name.. Amen.. Remember Jesus Loves You!!
Jesus Loves us, but hates sin. And WILL PUNISH SIN WHERE IT IS FOUND! Jesus is about righteousness his standards, not ours. If you come in false repentance and not with true godly sorrow God will know, because he knows your heart. It is not about love that saves us, (yes he loves us) but were saved so God gets the Glory it is credited back to him. To glorify him.
"BY-PASS THE INTELLECT" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
So how much are you guys making from this training course, Kirk?
peraspira 10 months ago
You ROCK!!! We were trying to upload this ourselves for our church but couldn't....so thank you thank you thank you :))))))))))))))))
solab7135 1 year ago
The bible says " of life and death chose life". Man up to your choice and accept the concequences of your actions. Make your choice and move on, there's nothing to argue about.
Salseraaa 2 years ago
Hi Chris, thanks for your video post! : )
Salseraaa 2 years ago
Hahaha did he just say "bypass the intellect?"
Leehofooks 2 years ago
If you believe that ,then tell me , why we are responsible for doing evil, when he created it. No beating around the bush please.
Philos2006 3 years ago
E.G. Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things
Do you believe what you read, or do you try to find a meaning that fits your belief.
Philos2006 3 years ago
Of course I believe that.
ChrisHobeck 3 years ago
Did you read between the lines ?
Philos2006 3 years ago
What does that mean?
ChrisHobeck 3 years ago
The bible has been completely discredited and disregarded by all scientist and historians. They spred fear and lies. They openly tell you that all you have to do is ignore you intellect. If these crazy people had thier way, we would be reliving the dark ages. They encourage you to shut off your brain, chock everything up to God or satan. Its separatism, bigotry, and intellectually stunting. People like this just want to celebrate thier ignorace and tell everyone else what they can or can't do.
Stonedgamer87 3 years ago
Could you please give an example of the evidence used to "discredit and disregard" the Bible?
ChrisHobeck 3 years ago
ChrisHobeck: The bible, especially the old-testament is the most exalted heap of crap ever assembled by men. Read it. please.
Philos2006 3 years ago
I have: Where is your evidence?
ChrisHobeck 3 years ago
"We'll teach you how to bypass the intellect, the place of argument, and speak directly to the conscience, the place of the knowledge of right and wrong."
AbsotivelyNothingful 3 years ago
Im favourting this becauase its so funny although scary.
Subfavscream 3 years ago
Now you too can learn how to brainwash people! What a crock of shit.
ThatAtheistDude 3 years ago
Please embrace God and kiss my ass.
dmitrik 4 years ago
Good points!!
meypole 4 years ago
you do a great job for Christ. Keep going... Blessings from Romania
torentcrestin 4 years ago
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It is very likely that Ray and Kirk both have had sex with men, and this is how they make up for the perceived sin.
ComedyJesus 4 years ago
What evidence do you have for that?
ChrisHobeck 3 years ago
The likelihood comes from the fanatical embrace of a father for forgiveness combined with active homophobia. Often people are misled into religion through a same sex encounter later regretted.
The Haggard Syndrome is quite common in radical religious conversions which involve an extreme anti-homosexual rhetoric.
ComedyJesus 3 years ago
So do you have any actual, verifiable proof that they are closet homosexuals?
Note that they are not specifically anti-homosexual or homophobic. In their TV episode on homosexuality (it is on YouTube I believe), they decry the the Westboro hate group and anyone who specifically says homosexuality is a sin above sins. It is not. Lying is just as damning as homosexuality, and perhaps more so as few today find a problem with "little white lies" or "stretching the truth."
ChrisHobeck 3 years ago
OMGZ eternity in a lake of fire! Oh noes! Hahahaha Kirk, you are so unbelievably hilarious.
fergmasterflex 4 years ago
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You too can get your own Way of the Master Basic Training Course for only $19.95. Crock of shit.
chalk20 4 years ago
actually $600.00
luvdady 3 years ago
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Wow Ray and Kirk have such inspiring positive message to share! NOT!
These two must be blasts at parties to hang out with. LOL...I could just see it now. Everyone is having a good time at a party, and these two start talking about Jesus and hell. Hopefully someone will show them the way to the door..LOL..
chalk20 4 years ago
It's not easy for man to depart from his/her sin -- and it is quite often that they act the way you just did. What is more important the party or spending an eternity in Hell? It is too bad that they aren't showing up at more parties around the world to warn of the judgment to come. When he says that you must bypass the intellect he is referring to the part of the brain that justifies his/her sinful ways.
cheezypoof17 4 years ago 3
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The PARTY! The party is much more important. I do believe I will have another beer! :) Cya in hell! LOL :)
chalk20 4 years ago
Just remember, you will be dead a lot longer than you will be alive.
ChrisHobeck 3 years ago
ChrisHobeck:Memento homo quia pulvis es et in pulverem reverteris.
"Remember man that you are dust and shall return to dust". And that`s the truth.
Philos2006 3 years ago
"Bypass the intellect" Great now we know that they appeal to people who don`t use their brains.
Philos2006 4 years ago
thats the whole point, don't think. Just do what your told.
Stonedgamer87 3 years ago
Is this supposed to be fuckin funny? Cuz it is.
devourerofbabies 4 years ago
Way of the Master has met it's match...
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nathaningold 4 years ago
I wouldn't be bragging that if I was you. Cause if you're a match for the "way of the master" then you're still not amounting to much.
I just came here to find a short video clip that demonstrates that most people's critical reasoning skills are so poor that they can't even respond to grossly fallacious argument. No wonder our Republic's in so much trouble.
TexasRounder 4 years ago
Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!
ThaiBoxerShorts 4 years ago
Did they just say to bypass the intellect?
greatgonzales 4 years ago
yep! Thats religions #1 enemy. Thought.
#2 Scientific evidence, but its pretty easy to ignore if you don't use #1.
Stonedgamer87 3 years ago
I don't know about you guys but I want to go to a better place because here on earth we have people lying, robbing, murdering etc. but those who really believe in Jesus Christ have had their lives transformed for better and this is a fact! Thank you Jesus for forgiving me of my sins and for dying for me!
ricardor7 4 years ago
If it's a fact then were is the evidence for it? Whenever I hear of some one's life being changing through Christ it's always in an extremely trivial way, and nothing in your comment would lead me to believe that you're capable of providing me with any example that's more significant.
TexasRounder 4 years ago
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NoWorries88 4 years ago
Does it bother anyone else that they say "intellectuals" like it is a bad word? The intellect is the single thing that separates us from lower forms of animals, it is our greatest attribute and should be given the respect it deserves. It should not be "circumnavigated" like some sort of inconvenience, it should be utilized to gain knowledge and wisdom.
macman13 4 years ago
"Bypass the intellect" is another name for "ignorance is bliss," a phrase meant to be said as if it were a bitter tasting thing.
macman13 4 years ago
god is my bitch baby...so catch aids and die
raisingdarkness 4 years ago
When speaking to christians their main push for me to believe is for the promise of heaven and the advoidance of hell. If those weren't the two main reasons for being "Christ like", then why are they the most preached doctrines? This is what gives credit to the preaching fear theory. How would you feel if people treated you good based on a reward or punish .
tubetext 4 years ago
Let's assume that there is a place called heaven , in the bible there is a WAR in heaven , if heaven is a perfect paradise how could there be war , and why would i want to go there? How could i be happy in heaven knowing that maybe some of my loved ones , my brother , my friends were all suffering in hell?
GrimmGreen 4 years ago
Those are good questions, but the war is not IN heaven..it WAS in heaven and has moved to earth and now we are involved. Unfortunatley, those who end up in hell made that choice on their own. It would make me sad to see friends and family there too, but me being there in torment with them is not going to change the torment they're in. If I don't want them to suffer, I have to point them to the truth..It's up to them to recieve it.
matrixm777 4 years ago
i understand that what you are doing by trying to witness to people is based on your fear of hell , and that you would not want any of your loved ones to "burn"
but assuming that you take the bible literally , or at least take the parts literally that you are told to by your pastor , then you should understand that there are people , that no matter what they do , they are going to go to hell. not everyone will be saved.
GrimmGreen 4 years ago
i understand there is not a war IN heaven , but the fact that there WAS a war means there is the possibility of another war , how could a perfect paradise have a war in the first place?
GrimmGreen 4 years ago
I would LOVE to run into these idiots on the streets. I love puncturing xian dogma!!
bartyfarslar 4 years ago
I just went through the course. Amazing.
robincrazy 4 years ago
Does anyone know of a training course to keep these idiots from knocking on my door pushing their beliefs?
Actually I found hanging a big pentacle on my door actually works as a pretty good christian repellent.
bartyfarslar 4 years ago
Dictionary of Sin: transgression of theological principles: an act, thought, or way of behaving that goes against the law or teachings of a religion, especially when the person who commits it is aware of this
Shoots1978 4 years ago
I'm still going thru the course, but it's awesome.
partyjohn 4 years ago
the training course is phenomenal!
DDDDDDDD35 4 years ago
This is what Jesus Christ did for you, you were the one guilty, sinning against the Holy GOD, and Jesus took your punishment instead and paid the fine for you so you can go to heaven. But if you don't your attitude towards GOD is arrogant and puffed up, your heart is obviously hardend and you have not ask GOD for forgiveness nor have you recieved Jesus Christ as your saviour.
jesusismysaviour87 5 years ago
If you're so brave, can you nail your hands to a cross, have metal, sharp thorns around your head piercing through your brain, have your toes nailed and your arm joints pulled and have your flesh cut off by metal chains and bleed to death on the cross with dehydration and stay on the cross like that until you die?? If you say "yes I can" than we all know that you're being self-righteous and lying to your own conscience.
jesusismysaviour87 5 years ago
Bypass my intellect cheese dicks. I do NOT live in fear, for god/s, Heaven and Hell do not exist outside of your imaginations.
baddogma 5 years ago
I feel very, very sorry for you. You're like a blind man on a highway saying "I DON'T BELIEVE IN TRUCKS!"
DDDDDDDD35 4 years ago
LOL! These guys live in pure fear.
Because god loves you so much that he will cause you to burn for all eternity simply because you didn't do everything exactly the way he said. Because you were not a god robot, you deserve to burn. Join our religion! Don't stop to think! Just join because we threatened you with our scary story!!!
These people are intellectually vacuous and that's why they have to avoid the intellect of those they prey upon.
testtubeerror 5 years ago
First off, don't straw man their arguments. Secondly, I am a physics major in college, so I don't tend to think I'm "intellectually vacuous," which is also an unwarranted personal attack.
If God loves humanity, He must be just and punish wrong-doing.
ChrisHobeck 5 years ago
Exactly man, He MUST punish wrong doing it is called sin. He will punish sin wherever it is found, sin is not something big like physical murder. Sin is a act of disobience towards authority. In this case God, the ten commandments show you what sin is to you (us). And who God is, perfect,holy and righteous. check out next comment.
Shoots1978 4 years ago
A great instructional tool..
IamtheWayTruthLife 5 years ago
those mocking, what is so funny to you, you or your own folks being not saved & ending up in eternal hellfire?If you only knew the TRUTH,the TRUTH would set you free.
pray4jerusalem 5 years ago
Look at it this way..if these "mockers" were truly not interested in Christ they would not be wasting their time pulling up these videos and making comments. They are really interested..just afraid so they become angry at us.
IamtheWayTruthLife 5 years ago
Sorry..they become angry with themselves, so they lash out at others. Sort of like a person being backed into a corner with no way out. These people are crying out for help and we need to be there to show them what Christ has to offer.
IamtheWayTruthLife 5 years ago
The bible clearly says that the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness. They are seeking, and God is knocking on their hearts. We pray that the holy spirit will open their eyes.. before I became a Christian I thought the bible was very hard to read, was a bunch of crap..etc. Not now, because I see God moving in my life.
freespeachrulez 5 years ago
BAHAHAHA
docutains 5 years ago
I pray in the name of the holy spirit. That your eyes would be opened to the real and depth of the Lord. I pray your eyes will be opened to the Love of God. I ask this all in Jesus name.. Amen.. Remember Jesus Loves You!!
freespeachrulez 5 years ago
Jesus Loves us, but hates sin. And WILL PUNISH SIN WHERE IT IS FOUND! Jesus is about righteousness his standards, not ours. If you come in false repentance and not with true godly sorrow God will know, because he knows your heart. It is not about love that saves us, (yes he loves us) but were saved so God gets the Glory it is credited back to him. To glorify him.
Shoots1978 4 years ago
Very well produced short video as to why and how to reach people with the gospel
jj100172 5 years ago
I should do a parody of this video at one point. hehe
thepaganwolf02 5 years ago