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  • we call them mickey pins and u will need a few of them other wise if you fail to do this i almost guarentee you will have imense issues down the track for example LIFTING OF THE FLOOR.

    u also failed to make sure all the boards are hard against eachother so there are no ugly gaps also on the end joiins. unless the boards are not toungue and groove then i would apolagize ... i feel sorry for you and ur customer

  • but that is the least of this guys worries as far as his floor lifting is concernd. have you ever heard of hollow spots? you are laying on concrete not chipboard genious. this guys biggest mistake is he is not nailing all the hollow spots where the boards arent quite hitting the glue ( this happens because in a typical concrete slab the slab is not flat)

  • wow!.

    you have got to be the biggest moron i have ever seen., either you are a complete retard or you just have alot of money to waste on timber(OR BOTH) NOBODY TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS VIDEO.

    first of all i noticed the direction you were gluing with your terrible trowel. ALWAYS GLUE THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF WICH YOU ARE LAYING YOUR BOARDS OR YOU MAY VERY WELL FIND THAT YOUR FLOOR WILL LIFT AFTER SOME TIME.

  • Feel sorry for anyone who has to tear that out later. Should have used less glue running perpendicular with the planks at the ends and maybe in the middle depending on length. Still holds it down, but isn't a disaster later when the homeowner has to remove it.

  • how did you figure on out if your board were straight did you go by the backwall??

  • Concrete and Wood expand and contract at different rates in addition to absorbing ambient moisture at different rates.Glueing both together can cause warping issues.

  • @Gerone1 Rewmar MS Polymer adhesive is flexible, contains no moisture and allows for seaonal movement of the wood. If there is a moisture issue with the concrete then the floor should by coated with a suitable DPM prior to installing the wood floor

  • Wonder how did his back feel after all this??

  • Одличан видео, хвала пуно за постављање, баш ми треба за бродски под

  • Great video you should post on contractortube. com

  • The only thing I dislike about doing this on concrete is if you get material that is thick and not so straight you will have a heck of a time trying to install. It will be one sticky mess with clamps and such. Make sure to go with an engineered floor on concrete and not 3/4 hardwood you'll save yourself a huge headache. If you do use hardwood make sure you look into it thoroughly to make sure it is a good square product to work with. I've had 3/4 in prefinished wood that varied quite a bit.

  • i`ve fitted lots of solid wood floors on top of woodtex laminate underlay and glued it all together with wood glue as a floating floor and strapped it all together and left it over night then pop straps off next day....that way the floor doesn`t have to be perfectly level and there is no problems with boards coming loose from the floor and rattling when walked on

  • no mames ,,, como sabes k te cuadraste bien ... y n pinche mazo traes weyymm,,,

  • Nice

  • @163churchhill Yeah that is the way they used to do it in the 1970's...things have changed...the glue has advanced greatly in the last 40 years. It is a water proof sealer, flexes for wood expansion, is anti fungal, anti microbial and holds so well good luck if you have to take it out.

    Most of these glues...like Bostic and others have a 30 to 40 year warranty. This is the preferred method for professionals...it is so nice to actually be able to seamlessly transfer from tile to wood.

  • I would never install like this, it will probably lift over time. If laying on a concrete floor lay 12mm WBP Plywood first, then secret nail into the ply, through the tongue of the board.

  • @163churchhill You've obviously never worked with this glue. Ever been in any high class shopping malls with the fancy stores they all have wood glued on concrete? Try ripping the wood up sometime. You literally need a jackhammer to do it and even then its hard to get up with out breaking the concrete to pieces. My only concern is working with prefinished 3/4 inch material that is not very square and having to clamp and deal with a sticky mess. But you can do it your way its just a lot more work

  • how do u know the first boards you put in were straight?

  • thank you for the demo

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  • that woud take a week to sort that out

  • what if the wall is not straight what then????

  • He makes it look it easy. Not one speck of glue on his hands or his shoes! Not such a good technique for an older aged installer as it would be bad for his back. :)

  • I hope it's quarter-sawn.

  • no volume come on

  • no room for expansion?

  • Parkieciarz za dychę he he nie zna się :D

  • lipa, nie te ruchy, układa w pióro, bez sensu robi kilometry po pokoju no i za każdym razem bieże po jednej desce pomijając fakt że nie użył sznurka albo wskaznika laserowego do wyprowadzenia parkietu. 3/5

  • are use all thick or what...you can only install engineerd wood onto concrete ..it is a good job when you use bostick best to glue it down..

  • You are really not worth a sensible response !

  • Honda16365 "Are YOU all thick or what." Not USE, you IDIOT!!

  • Are YOU all thick or what.? Not USE, you IDIOT!!

  • what the heck? did you scribe out the line? did you measure out before starting? why level only a bit of the floor, self level entire area to get a level. Furthermore what was the relative humidity of the subfloor? Prime the floor before and after levelling. Go back to school boy. This is not advise, it's a comedy of errors

  • He did check the moisture content of the floor before starting. It clearly didn't need a DPM or he would have used one. If you can read you should have noticed the caption about moisture. He also levelled the floor at the point it needed levelling. Then he did a first class job of installing a wood floor - NOT a comedy of errors!

    Did you know that primer (not DPM) is good up to only 4%? MS Polymer will also cope with 4% moisture in a screed if fully bonded, maybe you need a bit more schooling?

  • How come he ran the same lengths of wood and did not stagger them or did i miss this part other then that good job

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  • I don't like the stain color but that looks like very good flooring. 3/4" x 5" ? expensive!

  • Super! I Thanks for the video presentation. Very profesional installing hardwood floor.

  • if the adhesive is so good the guy could chalk a line and spread 3-4 rows at a time and not run up and down the room like a headless chicken.I'm sorry no dissing intentions I'm just one of those ppl that can't stand an inprodactive workethik...

  • This guy is productive he doesn't need to waste time with a chalk line and you will notice that he trowels out two rows and he doesn't step in the glue trying to over reach when placing the floor in the glue!

  • nice job  give me work

  • This video is doing it wrong:

    1: Ensure there is no more than 2mm height variation on any 2meters.

    2: Sand the topmost layer (1mm) of the concrete, (cement chemicals can create a film at the top level).

    3: Prime it (do not use paint).

    4: Make a straight line in the middle of the room aligned with the largest straight wall. Position it in a way you dont end up with a tiny strip at the wall

    5: Keep pressure on the wood with heavy stuff while gluing

    6: Don't sand the wood in next 4days

    5:

  • If you understood the properties of MS Polymer adhesive you would not have made comments 2, 3, 5 or 6.

    2 You do not need to sand the concrete (simply sweep it clean of dust)

    3.If the moisture content of the screed is 5% or more you need to use a full liquid Damp Proof Membrane (DPM) NOT a Primer

    5You do not need to apply presure with "heavy stuff" unless the boards are bowed

    6You can sand a floor after 24 hours

  • yes you can put floors onto concrete its called direct stick...derrrr.... as long as you prepare the concrete first by sanding and cleaning the concrete with a machine then applying a moisture barrier, then your rdy to go!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I'm not sure if it's wise to put solid hardwood on concrete. (I suppose that's what this product allows you to do.) I do know you can put a warm Persian area rug on hardwood.

  • you can't put solid hardwood on concrete,

  • Yes you can

  • This is retarded. Please dont do this in your home. You need waterproof membrane and 2x4 sleepers attached to the concrete. Then you nail the wood on to the sleepers.

  • hello there, miss. YES you can install Real Hardwood floors onto concrete. of course the concrete has to be cured. prep it, install it, sand it, staing it, etc. im a builder and i know what im talking about. how do to you think most indoors gyms, Basketball playground made of?

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  • Here in the UK you can install directly onto concrete as long as the floor has a damp proof membrane and a moisture content between 6 and 12. Just ensure the surface is in a good well prepared dust free condition, if not there are various primers that will seal the surface.

  • do not do this it is wrong!

  • dont try this, no solid wood on concrete over 16" in length, use polyurethane glue and plenty(bostitcs best) get a real trowel

  • What kind of flooring is that; knotty pine? I would like to do that in my basement.

  • lol dont check the humidity so the woods gets cupy and u sand it u get more money lmao lol

  • Very good.

  • if you are installing solid wood flooring onto a concrete base using any MS Polymer flexible adhesive always use a liquid DPM to protect your solid wood flooring from any rising damp if not used it could cause some big problems in time.

  • Exactly, you need the 10-15mm expansion gap and a damp proof membrane(DPM), doesn't have to be liquid though. I had 57m2 of the stuff laid in my house.

  • Where can i buy a damp proof membrane? home depot? i typed liquid damp proof membrane and found nothing, isn't it called primer or something like that? what kind/brand do you recommend?

  • We installed to wood floor on concrete in the Gap at the local mall and we made a straightline of woodfloor as a guide for the next row. This guy does it wrong in all ways, but wood floor looks good in all ways.

  • how do u know weather 2 install it verticaly or horizontaly?

  • if you are installing hardwood floor on sub-woodfloor Always install the floor perpendicular to the floor joists. if you are installing it on concrete, you choose the longest STRAIGHT wall to start of. Also lighting in the room may determine the installation.

  • firstly if your going to use this method,i.e. polymer based adhesive dont do AS THIS GUY DOES.WOOD IS ISOMETRIC SO WILL EXPAND IN ANY DIRECTION ALWAYS LEAVE 15mm EXPANSION GAP ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PERIMETER DONT LAY IT UP TO THE WALL,SUBFLOOR MUST BE ABOVE GROUND LEVEL I.E. NOT A BASEMENT ,ALLOWTHE FLOORING TO SIT IN THE ROOM FOR AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE INSTALL,NOW SET OUT YOUR FLOOR NO ROOM IS TOTALLY SQUARE I USE 2 NAILS AND A STRING LINE DONT PUT DOWN MORE GLUE THAN YOU CAN SET IN 20 MINUTES

  • 13 years of installing and refinishing hardwood floors and have never seen or even heard of anything this stupid hahahaha this guy is a complete idiot

  • So what do you suggest?

  • no actually he's mostly doing correctly

  • well if u did ur floors sober maybe it wouldn't take ur dumbass 15 years to learn how to do floors

  • awesome! thanks for the tutorial!!

  • looks nice.

  • cool video, thanks! It almost looks too easy to be true... do you think a complete amateur (me ;) ) can do it, or would you recommend a help of the professional?

  • Are you laying the boards in a pattern? Can you lay them however just don't have the ends meet from row to row.

  • yes thats true. what ever looks nice.

  • why one row at a time I would have trowd out as wide as I could reach and stepped that shit up

  • Ned, great video. I was asked to do a wooden flooring for someone about 2 weeks ago. Id never done what before but did it as a favour. I watched your video and winged it. Turned out i did a nice job of it. Took me longer than it'll take you obviously but Customer was over the moon! Great video fella!

  • How many square meters would 25kg of adhesive do you?

  • Depends upon subfloor surface, level, board type etc.

  • nedthehorse,

    Thanks for this nice video. It does not show every detail, but then it would be much longer if it did. There are many videos here that are just 1 or 2 minutes long which basically shows nothing. Did you dry lay and cut the planks before? It looked like you only had to tap a few planks. That is kind of unusual.

  • Hi, Yep we dry cut the boards prior to the installation, some fitters like to do this as it is cleaner should give you less waste when installing the flooring. Some like to cut as they go, but for making the video it seemed neater to dry cut! Just a final point, you would only dry cut 3 or 4 rows at a time.

  • not bad video .

    But it doesn`t show ,how to do around fireplaces or corners or angols ,things like

    that .

    besides that ,from 1 to 5 video I give it a 3.

  • fella maybe if there was a fire place in the room he would gladly show you. but as far ad a video goes on laying wooden flooring hes done well.

  • cool video.

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    for huge savings and great flooring!

  • very good video

  • that glue looks too soft looks like takles days to dry . will dry like in  2 days lol

  • What type of warranty can you provide using this system? Is this for the DIY market? All of my wood products with the exception of engineered and Floating applications the manufacturers all say that they

    1.)HardWood must be stapled down or nailed to an approved plywood, or OSB sub floor.

    2.)Hardwood Installation is approved for only On or above grade (meaning ground level or above)

  • Is this solid wood or engineered, if its solid, is it not risky to install random length?

  • lotion man ting live footage may be better than taking A CLASS for this

  • this video is an add about the wood glue.

  • good video

  • Our "Bruce" glue was not nearly as liquid as your and did not spread that easily. We had "Bruce" hardwood also and each one required tapping all around. It was not an easy task.

  • great work you are an artist of the highest order i wish you could do my floors

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