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@TakingU2Skool they do have the existing tracks for the old pueblo Trolley, how much would the new trainset like these to replace the old rollingstock?
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Looks exactly like a street in Berlin, Germany or Stockholm, Sweden or Warsaw, Poland, with the exception of the palm trees and the cars mostly being European.
@pimakilledsuki LOL...You're probably the one responsible for not getting your dog a license or leash him...I can't imagine the animal control folks killing your dog for no reason. And your username got it right - it's Pima County Animal Control, idk why you're protesting the city of Tucson.
I am from Czech republic (the streetcar vehicles too). In Czech republic and in Germany and Poland too, we have many streetcar-systems. In Czech republic Praha/Prague, Liberec, Plzeň (city of Pils-Beer), Most+Litvínov, Brno, Ostrava and Olomouc. In Germany for example Berlin, Chośebuz/Cottbus and Zhorjelc/Görlitz etc. In central Europe its normal using the streetcar.
My web is mhd-vlak.tk or mhdavlaky.bloger.cz , but only in Czech.
I am from Czech republic (the streetcar vehicles too). In Czech republic and in Germany and Poland too, we have many streetcar-systems. In Czech republic Praha/Prague, Liberec, Plzeň (city of Pils-Beer), Most+Litvínov, Brno, Ostrava and Olomouc. In Germany for example Berlin, Chośebuz/Cottbus and Zhorjelc/Görlitz etc. In central Europe its normal using the streetcar.
Western sunbelt cities like Tucson have really zero demand for mass public transit systems like this. Even in larger CA cities where there is a larger demand such light rail systems run EMPTY most of the time other than rush hour. I don't blame the city of Tucson for trying to expand/revitalize, but do realize that pretty much no one will ride this until there are new employers and attractions along the route.
Well, seeing all these comments kinda gets me miffed. Little do we realize that if we had a fantastic rail system, there would be no need for any road repavement and/or a freeway system. If you look at China, you'll see what I mean. I'm just saying, we need more public transit, no matter what shape it takes.
@PsychoShocker1000 True, but once stuck behind the wheel of a car, always stuck behind the wheel of a car regardless of what it causes. Who cares about this stuff. As Long as I am able to drive my car. :D BP oil spill, Iraq.
@PsychoShocker1000 I can't think of a single Chinese city that is really that comparable to Tucson in terms of population/area. Most Asian cities have huge demand for public transit because there are so much more people per area. There is no such demand in Tucson. 80% of suntran buses already run empty and even during the busiest hours it doesn't compare to a bus in China, or even in San Francisco/NYC etc.
@bloo96 what maricopa needs is all their roads to be paved not just left dirt unpaved because the last time I went to maricopa I got Shit all over my car and I hate going down there so Arizona need to pave all of their unpaved road before investing on more freeway and railroad system.
Where are the CHOLOS WITH THE WIFEBEATERS JAYWALKING THE STREETS? AND a dead dog or two? Hey, instead of BART LIKE THEY HAVE IN FRISCO OURS CAN BE CALLED FART. Fat Assed Retro Tucsonans. We are so Podunk. While the millionaire extorsionists in the foothils drive in their BMW Roadsters laughting at us beaners and U of A faculty types looking for a free ride on a gay trolley. Cripes!
@kubrocker I couldnt agree more. This is totally pointless. I REAL public transportation system is needed that covers the sprawl of Tucson, not just the area within a mile or two of the U of A. I live by 4th Ave right now, dont own a car but can easily bike/walk downtown or to university but I have no easy way to get across town
you guys got the old Troley that are still runny but the trolley is old that they may need a new trainset like these and a rail extension to some place most people doesn't wan't to walk in the 120 Degree weather in the summer time and these new trainset should have good working Air Condition system.
What a bunch of horse shit this is, not to mention colossal waste of money, our roads are an embarrassment but by gum we gonna have us a street car! $65 mil would do a lot of good for repairing streets, but nooo we gotta waste on something stupid.
they need to fix the road first especially the roads in Maricopa because the Road there sucks because its all dirt on the farmland and I wasn't happy driving on the dirt road, got **** all over my car from the dirt road.
@danielday36 the solution is to rais gas price which pays taxes for highways, not taxing people that waks, ride bikes, and takes buses. although they could raise the bus fairs which pays for the roads construction.
@sideslide23 I, danielday36 am not addicted to oil. Tell that to the Far right who want low taxes. Alot of this opposition comes from the fact that the government has been subsidizing roads over rail for over 60 years. Since America don't want drilling in there back yard, I recommend we push for these ideals so people have options and we redirect the sprawl so we won't need to buy it from Hugo. Just remember if it ain'f for subsidizing roads, we wouldn't have have the sprawl around today.
this is stupid- just like the trollies, it goes around University, 4th ave and Congress. good areas but that is all walkable! when i was in college i would leave class, and hit bars on university, 4th ave and down to congress all on foot, EASILY! give us a streetcar to get to our homes out east or up on ina or on the south side, without waiting forever for a bus, and run it a little later. getting around downtown is easily. i wanna get TO downtown you dummy tucsonans... thats the trans you need!
I don't know whats going on with this project, especially if its going to use the cable. In my state, I think I understand why these are no longer. I was eating out side, and just happened to be the right place and right time to see the car snap off from the wire. If it was me, I would get irritated if I was operating and constantly having to get out and rehook the cable up.
Yes I live in Tucson. And when there is construction, I'll try to take pictures of it. It should be said that downtown Tucson is preparing itself for the streetcar. The 4th Ave underpass, Cushing Street Bridge, and a few beautification projects.
The city is waiting on a grant. If the city gets it, the streetcar will be built all at once. But if not, it'll be built in phases. But it will be built with the goal of opening in 2012.
what you see there is the Air Condition on wheel, for people to cooldown, Arizona needs more and more so people can save money on Gas and Cool down while they travel to their destionation in the summer time.
beside we dont need that gay speed train..we need more entertainment facilties!...Tucson is empty at night and in weekends there is nothing to do!....we need something crazy like Amuzemnt parks or something COOL!
Yeah am with you on that ... They say they will make one in ELOY!!!...but with the states crappy govt its all talk but no work is done!...and Eloy is the worst place for anything like that
Well..light rail (or in this case, a modern street car) is a HUGE catylist for development in any city. Look at what it's done to Portland. If and when the Tucson street car opens, I expect to see downtown Tucson to grow at a massive rate. We need more development downtown. More lofts and condos behind the Rialto and more condos across the 10 freeway. Hopefully, that'll happen once the streetcar is built.
Sociallist, you go to work and make lots of money and you buy nice things like cars, trucks, and TV but the government take some of your money and pays for your city, and states, so people can take nice Train nice buses and nice monorail
America is so far behind Europe and Japan when it comes to reliable Public Transportation i.e. train systems for every major city and also speed trains connecting from major cities to major cities. We are so technically advanced with cell phones, tv, medical equipment and don't forget weapons but not safe public transportation...."What's that saying, build it and they will come".
I think the ways are too long. It is different to Europe. Here a lot of people live in compact cities. When I remember Hampton, than there were a lot of small houses and everyone have two cars in a family. And I think to come in the city by Tram would be a long way. Even here, when you live outside the city, you use the car. But in the US mostly everything is / everyone live outside the city...
I heard somthing about a high speed train comming to Arizona, it will be the Solar high speed train, which travels from Phoenix to Tuscon, and it may be coming in 2018.
hey slide... go look at the city and metro populations on wikipedia... Tucson's hasn't been updated since 2006 and both are still higher than Fresno's. Duh.....
the video ends at the FOX theatre that's playing "a Street Car Named Desire"! so cool. Go Green America! :) All this is Good Karma: less carbon emissions /pollution is a happier planet.
College students, mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters, old people, cops, robbers, bums, doctors. Everyone will ride this. I wish the Speedway segment would run a little futher down at least to Alvernon but that's me. I live near the U of A and I would totally ride this.
Pepsimannampepsi - Dude everyone rides the trolley in San Diego. Even the rich people who get off at Fashion Valley mall for rich people. You get a feeling of pride just sitting there waiting for your destination. You feel like a monkey with consciousness living in the future. Oh wait monkeys are my common ancestors. It's fun man. Specially when you know you are stoned and want to chillax in a cool trolley.
Pepsimannampepsi - I suppose you don't have any old relatives who may have to consider giving up driving due to age, arthritis, etc. I was there when my grandfather had to give up his car keys. It's a debilitating moment. Buses are so-so, but they're not as predictable as trolleys and only the true "locals" ride them. Trolleys and streetcars are the wave of the future.
ive been on one of these in munich. theyre fantastic way to travel around the city.
in my opinion, if you dont have a car, and dont wanna take the bus, lightrail or trams are the best alternative. theyre cheap, theyre efficient, they can go everywhere, unlike the subway or tube... plus they offer great views for tourists and casual people. unlike the underground which is always dark and in a tunnel of bricks and concrete... at least the streetcar is something to be excited about. :-D
I'm from belgium and I LOOVE Tucson. Not in summer tough. Horrible.
We have these 'streetcars's in belgium. They are cool but very expensive but clean. The problem we have here that we have a lot of traffic accidents. cars don't see or hear them. Even a couple of people a year die because they get under them. Strange but true. They cost a lot of money to maintain too. I love green stuff. I think making the car green will be a better solution.
Downtown is insane busy I would know I work down there, and by the University is so packed all school day and students hardly ever use the crosswalks there would be accidents all the time with bikes. And plus theres no room!! The bus is fine I dont see a reason to change something thats working perfectly fine.
the cars drive on the tracks on 4th ave? and they want to put it down university? There's NO room!!! add bikers and hundreds of students going to lunch and you've got yourself a problem
why does each tram have 2 pantographs? one in use and one redundant?,.. i understand that they are bi directional trams,. but still only one is needed as on most other modern trams around the world
I think this is just the type of transportaion is good when you don´t want or have a car to drive. One other fact is that its god for the enviorement and the city structures can plan to create new and better visions for tuscon and other citys around the state. In sweden we have this type of cars and a new transportation called skycab very nice and good and its look nice also to integrate with the town structure.
Is this supposed to be the current transportation system in Tucson?
I have lived here the greate part of my life and I have never noticed this particular system.
I assume from the video that the street is supposed to be University Blvd, near the U of A.
There is a trolley there but it is one which was (I believe) purchased from the Japanese a few years ago and is an old (but very charming) trolley from the :old days". Not anything like what's pictured here.
The trolly goes past where the new Tiki head will soon be erected. I don't see that in this video. Check out my channel to see documentation of the Tiki head move. Very important to For Tucsonans. Thanks.
For a small town that wants to own clean electric public transit schemes, it may want to consider electric trolley coaches for a smaller capital start-up. A streetcar system is a lot more expensive.
Tucson already has a trolley but it only goes from 4th Ave. to Main Gate Plaza. This will take the system in place and expand it to UMC and all the way to Downtown, and then to Southern Tucson where the new bioscience tech-park is being built.
Don't be delusional here, Tuscon is very much a city. Tuscon has it's own metropolitan area complete with a downtown core. Once you travel outwards it's obvious that like many cities of it's era there's unchecked suburban sprawl.
In order for a city such as Tuscon, AZ to survive and flourish, there exists the need for a well developed transportation system. Light rail is viable, cheap and very cost effective if planned and built effectively.
exactly what I thought when I watched it. All I can foresee are all of the accidents just waiting to happen- and space taken up by the street cars during traffic causing quite a problem.
hey I have been in Tucson for 7 months but I cannot understand why those hippies live here. Why do they prefer to live in AZ. Why not in CA. I don't have any problem with them but I am so curious why they move to Tucson. cause Tucson isn't such a liberal city like SEATTLE or San Fransisco .
I would love to see this happen, but I just don't think there's enough traffic between Main Gate and downtown. Even the trolley that's going to run between Congress and 4th just seems like a quick way to get between bars on Saturday night.
All of America needs to re-vitalize its downtown areas. More reliable and available public transportation and a reduction in crime would be the way to go.
In Phoenix, the light rail system are going to be in service in december of this year, and every one will get to ride on it for free untill beginning of Janruary of 2009, I live in Scottdale AZ and I got the news about it. Tucson is smaller than Fresno, and they don't really need a street car, all they need is busses, because they are smaller than phoenix, in our town, we could use light rail system.
It makes me wonder why NYC doesn't have streetcars.
Maybe one reason is all the traffic congestion, even though NYC is one city in which more people use public transportation than drive. I mean, sure, you see lots of cars. But look at the buses. And once you see the subways, then you get an idea of how many people commute in NYC.
Yeah right. Nobody in Tucson would actually put money down for this. Notice the trolley tracks are missing on 4th Ave? If people won't go for light rail, I doubt the streetcars would ever show up.
i live in tucson and i do not recognize any of these proposed areas. where are the homless people? where are all the 96 year old snow birds driving down the wrong side of the road and making left hand turns from the right lane? and not to mention the lack of garbage and grafiti. i think they mixed this up with some nice town. like san diego
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Good video. I really hope Tucson doesn't get hit with the whole Street Car scam like Phoenix. What's really needed is more room for cars. People aren't going to just stop driving and take the bus - it's a pretty utopian dream, but not practical in the real world.
So basically you are saying instead of not using something completely electric and efficient, you would rather continue using fossil fuels.Light rail is not a scam, if you use it. The people who don't use it, and end up driving the ROUTE OF THE RAIL anyway, which I think is really rediculous!
I think Tucson needs more development downtown and around the university area before something like that would be practical, but I hope it happens. Cool video.
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Cool- I hope Tucson gets it.
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pimakilledsuki 2 months ago
They built something like this at the U of A
ItsNotMeItsSammieZ 3 months ago
cost millions of dollars and will only travel 3 miles lmao this is a joke
TakingU2Skool 4 months ago
@TakingU2Skool they do have the existing tracks for the old pueblo Trolley, how much would the new trainset like these to replace the old rollingstock?
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pimakilledsuki 5 months ago 2
they still have the old pueblo trolley, however, they should install A/C units on all their streetcars.
sideslide23 5 months ago
It's about time that the USA follow the lead of more modern countries and reintroduce street railway systems. Everyone will benefit from them.
yarmo28 5 months ago
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thumbs up if you prefer a beetle!
russotragik 5 months ago
@russotragik I perfer a Peterbuilt.
sideslide23 5 months ago
Tucson needs to stop being ghetto and modernize!
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BOYCOTT TUCSON AZ THEY KILLED MY DOG SUKI ON 1/5/2011
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pimakilledsuki 6 months ago
BOYCOTT TUCSON AZ THEY KILLED MY DOG SUKI ON 1/5/2011
FUCK TUCSON AZ !!!!@#$%+*&^%$#@!
pimakilledsuki 8 months ago
Perhaps if The City of Tucson would let the RTA take over the bus system, it would be better suited to see this into fruition.
Jwitkowski1 8 months ago
BOYCOTT TUCSON AZ THEY KILLED MY DOG SUKI ON 1/5/2011
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sideslide23 9 months ago
@sideslide23 Already under construction. So, how could it be a "scam"?
argive100 9 months ago
@argive100 sorry I never pay attention to Tucson when I travel through on the I-10 I live in Phoenix.
sideslide23 9 months ago
Looks exactly like a street in Berlin, Germany or Stockholm, Sweden or Warsaw, Poland, with the exception of the palm trees and the cars mostly being European.
V8Fiero2M8 9 months ago
Light rail is great but too many people can not drive around them.
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@pimakilledsuki LOL...You're probably the one responsible for not getting your dog a license or leash him...I can't imagine the animal control folks killing your dog for no reason. And your username got it right - it's Pima County Animal Control, idk why you're protesting the city of Tucson.
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I am from Czech republic (the streetcar vehicles too). In Czech republic and in Germany and Poland too, we have many streetcar-systems. In Czech republic Praha/Prague, Liberec, Plzeň (city of Pils-Beer), Most+Litvínov, Brno, Ostrava and Olomouc. In Germany for example Berlin, Chośebuz/Cottbus and Zhorjelc/Görlitz etc. In central Europe its normal using the streetcar.
My web is mhd-vlak.tk or mhdavlaky.bloger.cz , but only in Czech.
KDUCSLMB 10 months ago
I am from Czech republic (the streetcar vehicles too). In Czech republic and in Germany and Poland too, we have many streetcar-systems. In Czech republic Praha/Prague, Liberec, Plzeň (city of Pils-Beer), Most+Litvínov, Brno, Ostrava and Olomouc. In Germany for example Berlin, Chośebuz/Cottbus and Zhorjelc/Görlitz etc. In central Europe its normal using the streetcar.
My web is mhd-vlak.tk or mhdavlaky.bloger.cz
KDUCSLMB 10 months ago
I HATE PIMA COUNTY IN TUCSON AZ THEY KILLED MY DOG SUKI #297007 ON 1/5/2011
pimakilledsuki 1 year ago
Come to Melbourne ( no not bloody Florida; Australia ) we got 'em all over the place.
Rocketboy1950 1 year ago
Amazing and exciting that the Modern Street Car will soon connect West Tucson(Birthplace of Tucson) with central Tucson! downtown
MaryLouThompson 1 year ago
God, I can't find one about the atlanta streetcar. Can anyone gimme a link?
Rightanglemusic 1 year ago
Western sunbelt cities like Tucson have really zero demand for mass public transit systems like this. Even in larger CA cities where there is a larger demand such light rail systems run EMPTY most of the time other than rush hour. I don't blame the city of Tucson for trying to expand/revitalize, but do realize that pretty much no one will ride this until there are new employers and attractions along the route.
pal2011 1 year ago
they should not have any motor vehicle drivin on tracks accept for city buses.
sideslide23 1 year ago
Someday
AVagent007 1 year ago
Well, seeing all these comments kinda gets me miffed. Little do we realize that if we had a fantastic rail system, there would be no need for any road repavement and/or a freeway system. If you look at China, you'll see what I mean. I'm just saying, we need more public transit, no matter what shape it takes.
PsychoShocker1000 1 year ago
@PsychoShocker1000 True, but once stuck behind the wheel of a car, always stuck behind the wheel of a car regardless of what it causes. Who cares about this stuff. As Long as I am able to drive my car. :D BP oil spill, Iraq.
danielday36 1 year ago
@PsychoShocker1000 I can't think of a single Chinese city that is really that comparable to Tucson in terms of population/area. Most Asian cities have huge demand for public transit because there are so much more people per area. There is no such demand in Tucson. 80% of suntran buses already run empty and even during the busiest hours it doesn't compare to a bus in China, or even in San Francisco/NYC etc.
pal2011 1 year ago
Thank you Tucson City Council for underfunding our Police to fund this boondoggle!
croissantanyone 1 year ago
What we need is a damn freeway system.
Not just the interstate cutting through downtown
bloo96 1 year ago
@bloo96 what maricopa needs is all their roads to be paved not just left dirt unpaved because the last time I went to maricopa I got Shit all over my car and I hate going down there so Arizona need to pave all of their unpaved road before investing on more freeway and railroad system.
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capnfucker 1 year ago
I live on 4th ave :)
xdevynxisxherex 1 year ago
Where are the CHOLOS WITH THE WIFEBEATERS JAYWALKING THE STREETS? AND a dead dog or two? Hey, instead of BART LIKE THEY HAVE IN FRISCO OURS CAN BE CALLED FART. Fat Assed Retro Tucsonans. We are so Podunk. While the millionaire extorsionists in the foothils drive in their BMW Roadsters laughting at us beaners and U of A faculty types looking for a free ride on a gay trolley. Cripes!
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roberthalfull 1 year ago
muito bom!
franklingladson 1 year ago
@kubrocker I couldnt agree more. This is totally pointless. I REAL public transportation system is needed that covers the sprawl of Tucson, not just the area within a mile or two of the U of A. I live by 4th Ave right now, dont own a car but can easily bike/walk downtown or to university but I have no easy way to get across town
borschting 1 year ago
you guys got the old Troley that are still runny but the trolley is old that they may need a new trainset like these and a rail extension to some place most people doesn't wan't to walk in the 120 Degree weather in the summer time and these new trainset should have good working Air Condition system.
sideslide23 1 year ago
What a bunch of horse shit this is, not to mention colossal waste of money, our roads are an embarrassment but by gum we gonna have us a street car! $65 mil would do a lot of good for repairing streets, but nooo we gotta waste on something stupid.
capnfucker 1 year ago
they need to fix the road first especially the roads in Maricopa because the Road there sucks because its all dirt on the farmland and I wasn't happy driving on the dirt road, got **** all over my car from the dirt road.
sideslide23 1 year ago
@capnfucker So is high Gas prices. I'm tired of my tax payer money being spend on highways I don't even drive on.
danielday36 1 year ago
@danielday36 the solution is to rais gas price which pays taxes for highways, not taxing people that waks, ride bikes, and takes buses. although they could raise the bus fairs which pays for the roads construction.
sideslide23 1 year ago
@sideslide23 I, danielday36 am not addicted to oil. Tell that to the Far right who want low taxes. Alot of this opposition comes from the fact that the government has been subsidizing roads over rail for over 60 years. Since America don't want drilling in there back yard, I recommend we push for these ideals so people have options and we redirect the sprawl so we won't need to buy it from Hugo. Just remember if it ain'f for subsidizing roads, we wouldn't have have the sprawl around today.
danielday36 1 year ago
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That's your problem, the majority of people in this dump drive and money should be spent on roads and building highways through Tucson.
capnfucker 1 year ago
this is stupid- just like the trollies, it goes around University, 4th ave and Congress. good areas but that is all walkable! when i was in college i would leave class, and hit bars on university, 4th ave and down to congress all on foot, EASILY! give us a streetcar to get to our homes out east or up on ina or on the south side, without waiting forever for a bus, and run it a little later. getting around downtown is easily. i wanna get TO downtown you dummy tucsonans... thats the trans you need!
kubrocker 1 year ago 2
I don't know whats going on with this project, especially if its going to use the cable. In my state, I think I understand why these are no longer. I was eating out side, and just happened to be the right place and right time to see the car snap off from the wire. If it was me, I would get irritated if I was operating and constantly having to get out and rehook the cable up.
npx190 1 year ago
I hope it will go faster than the one in Portland. One could walk faster.
Glendale41 1 year ago
@757K The streetcar is APPROVED as of today. Construction will start at the end of the year and will open in 2012.
SolForceJxn2 1 year ago
Yes I live in Tucson. And when there is construction, I'll try to take pictures of it. It should be said that downtown Tucson is preparing itself for the streetcar. The 4th Ave underpass, Cushing Street Bridge, and a few beautification projects.
SolForceJxn2 2 years ago
The city is waiting on a grant. If the city gets it, the streetcar will be built all at once. But if not, it'll be built in phases. But it will be built with the goal of opening in 2012.
SolForceJxn2 2 years ago
@757K Early 2012
SolForceJxn2 2 years ago
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sideslide23 2 years ago
Go Tuscon!!! I hope you pull it off and get this streetcar system...Don't be like birmingham...
BisonAP 2 years ago 5
"Don't be like birmingham."
You mean solvent?
thedavidwilson 2 years ago
what you see there is the Air Condition on wheel, for people to cooldown, Arizona needs more and more so people can save money on Gas and Cool down while they travel to their destionation in the summer time.
sideslide23 2 years ago
what is the point of this video i'm so confused!!!!
NeSsIeNeTtY 2 years ago
Finally the Strassenbahn from Darmstadt will be established in Tucson.
evablueye24 2 years ago
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It will happen
amimakry 2 years ago
who hates the new suntran logo!
I know I do!
beside we dont need that gay speed train..we need more entertainment facilties!...Tucson is empty at night and in weekends there is nothing to do!....we need something crazy like Amuzemnt parks or something COOL!
MrBOX0MAN 2 years ago
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sideslide23 2 years ago
Yeah am with you on that ... They say they will make one in ELOY!!!...but with the states crappy govt its all talk but no work is done!...and Eloy is the worst place for anything like that
MrBOX0MAN 2 years ago
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Well..light rail (or in this case, a modern street car) is a HUGE catylist for development in any city. Look at what it's done to Portland. If and when the Tucson street car opens, I expect to see downtown Tucson to grow at a massive rate. We need more development downtown. More lofts and condos behind the Rialto and more condos across the 10 freeway. Hopefully, that'll happen once the streetcar is built.
SolForceJxn2 2 years ago
"Look at what it's done to Portland."
Heroin epidemic?
thedavidwilson 2 years ago
@MrBOX0MAN How do you expect people to get to these cool and amazing things?
SolForceJxn2 2 years ago
Sociallist, you go to work and make lots of money and you buy nice things like cars, trucks, and TV but the government take some of your money and pays for your city, and states, so people can take nice Train nice buses and nice monorail
sideslide23 1 year ago
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sideslide23 2 years ago
it's gunna take up the whole damn street! and i don't think a city like tucson really needs it. at least not just yet.
jzarow99 2 years ago 2
America is so far behind Europe and Japan when it comes to reliable Public Transportation i.e. train systems for every major city and also speed trains connecting from major cities to major cities. We are so technically advanced with cell phones, tv, medical equipment and don't forget weapons but not safe public transportation...."What's that saying, build it and they will come".
curlyfry44 2 years ago
California is ahead of the rest of the states, arizona is Far Behind
sideslide23 2 years ago 2
i just dont think its gonna happen live in tucson and i dont see any improvment
AustinIsGo 2 years ago
NEVER HAPPINING TUCSON IS TOO POOR
AustinIsGo 2 years ago 2
Tuscon has the old Pueblo Trolley, which runs on rail by electrical wire like this, and I'm shure there going to get an upgrade.
sideslide23 2 years ago
Solar? How will you offer 6.000 - 9.000 Kw/h by using the sun? I think this is impossible.
Landstalker32x 2 years ago
I can't belive that it will works in the US...
I think the ways are too long. It is different to Europe. Here a lot of people live in compact cities. When I remember Hampton, than there were a lot of small houses and everyone have two cars in a family. And I think to come in the city by Tram would be a long way. Even here, when you live outside the city, you use the car. But in the US mostly everything is / everyone live outside the city...
Landstalker32x 2 years ago
I heard somthing about a high speed train comming to Arizona, it will be the Solar high speed train, which travels from Phoenix to Tuscon, and it may be coming in 2018.
sideslide23 2 years ago
Ну и чо это за ХЕРЬ?
Mercury2028 2 years ago
hey slide... go look at the city and metro populations on wikipedia... Tucson's hasn't been updated since 2006 and both are still higher than Fresno's. Duh.....
GABER222 2 years ago 2
the video ends at the FOX theatre that's playing "a Street Car Named Desire"! so cool. Go Green America! :) All this is Good Karma: less carbon emissions /pollution is a happier planet.
I like the White Beetle at 0:38.
KeVlarTheMighty 2 years ago 2
I liked the Mustang.
nate3221 2 years ago
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sideslide23 2 years ago
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This is as stupid as it gets.
Whos going to ride those things?
(other than to try it out for the first time)
Worthless.
pepsimannampepsi 2 years ago
College students, mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters, old people, cops, robbers, bums, doctors. Everyone will ride this. I wish the Speedway segment would run a little futher down at least to Alvernon but that's me. I live near the U of A and I would totally ride this.
SolForceJxn2 2 years ago 8
Pepsimannampepsi - Dude everyone rides the trolley in San Diego. Even the rich people who get off at Fashion Valley mall for rich people. You get a feeling of pride just sitting there waiting for your destination. You feel like a monkey with consciousness living in the future. Oh wait monkeys are my common ancestors. It's fun man. Specially when you know you are stoned and want to chillax in a cool trolley.
neolestat13 2 years ago 3
Pepsimannampepsi - I suppose you don't have any old relatives who may have to consider giving up driving due to age, arthritis, etc. I was there when my grandfather had to give up his car keys. It's a debilitating moment. Buses are so-so, but they're not as predictable as trolleys and only the true "locals" ride them. Trolleys and streetcars are the wave of the future.
Tubes12AX7k 2 years ago 2
omg i would freakin love this site!! Tucson needs to grow!!
AlexV2008 2 years ago 3
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Womanizer2985 2 years ago 6
ive been on one of these in munich. theyre fantastic way to travel around the city.
in my opinion, if you dont have a car, and dont wanna take the bus, lightrail or trams are the best alternative. theyre cheap, theyre efficient, they can go everywhere, unlike the subway or tube... plus they offer great views for tourists and casual people. unlike the underground which is always dark and in a tunnel of bricks and concrete... at least the streetcar is something to be excited about. :-D
BoAbkal 2 years ago
SE pote un link de downloads?
balanescu23 2 years ago
From Brasil
CarlosTadeus 2 years ago
will it stop at the buffet bar?
mdmdoink 2 years ago 2
for real, B
FundedByTheMob 2 years ago
I'm from belgium and I LOOVE Tucson. Not in summer tough. Horrible.
We have these 'streetcars's in belgium. They are cool but very expensive but clean. The problem we have here that we have a lot of traffic accidents. cars don't see or hear them. Even a couple of people a year die because they get under them. Strange but true. They cost a lot of money to maintain too. I love green stuff. I think making the car green will be a better solution.
Just my2cents
carpediem1956 2 years ago 2
Downtown is insane busy I would know I work down there, and by the University is so packed all school day and students hardly ever use the crosswalks there would be accidents all the time with bikes. And plus theres no room!! The bus is fine I dont see a reason to change something thats working perfectly fine.
honeybunz365 2 years ago
the cars drive on the tracks on 4th ave? and they want to put it down university? There's NO room!!! add bikers and hundreds of students going to lunch and you've got yourself a problem
TheOldRaven 2 years ago
why does each tram have 2 pantographs? one in use and one redundant?,.. i understand that they are bi directional trams,. but still only one is needed as on most other modern trams around the world
gamwam 2 years ago
Worthless waste of money. You can walk this route easily. I walk it all the time when I'm out taking photos.
atomicfrog2000 2 years ago
Nobody want to walk in the 110 Degree temp.
sideslide23 2 years ago
I think this is just the type of transportaion is good when you don´t want or have a car to drive. One other fact is that its god for the enviorement and the city structures can plan to create new and better visions for tuscon and other citys around the state. In sweden we have this type of cars and a new transportation called skycab very nice and good and its look nice also to integrate with the town structure.
swetomboy 2 years ago 3
this is stuped, they put in street car like this in smaller town, why? I'm from Chandler AZ and phoenix got the light rail system.
sideslide23 3 years ago
hmmm...... odd i have never noticed that here. i have lived in tucson since i was born and i havent noticed that. is that for the future?
ahhigby 3 years ago
yea its downtown so far and the rails are alredy down
10904414 2 years ago
Is this supposed to be the current transportation system in Tucson?
I have lived here the greate part of my life and I have never noticed this particular system.
I assume from the video that the street is supposed to be University Blvd, near the U of A.
There is a trolley there but it is one which was (I believe) purchased from the Japanese a few years ago and is an old (but very charming) trolley from the :old days". Not anything like what's pictured here.
The future perhaps?
Pelservco 3 years ago
um..yea...thats why it says the PROPOSED TUCSON,AZ STREETCAR...
yanfeb15 2 years ago
The trolly goes past where the new Tiki head will soon be erected. I don't see that in this video. Check out my channel to see documentation of the Tiki head move. Very important to For Tucsonans. Thanks.
marctarthur 3 years ago
For a small town that wants to own clean electric public transit schemes, it may want to consider electric trolley coaches for a smaller capital start-up. A streetcar system is a lot more expensive.
jemdude22 3 years ago
Tucson already has a trolley but it only goes from 4th Ave. to Main Gate Plaza. This will take the system in place and expand it to UMC and all the way to Downtown, and then to Southern Tucson where the new bioscience tech-park is being built.
Zegon976 3 years ago
Don't be delusional here, Tuscon is very much a city. Tuscon has it's own metropolitan area complete with a downtown core. Once you travel outwards it's obvious that like many cities of it's era there's unchecked suburban sprawl.
In order for a city such as Tuscon, AZ to survive and flourish, there exists the need for a well developed transportation system. Light rail is viable, cheap and very cost effective if planned and built effectively.
Might even end their suburban sprawl.
num1hendrickfan 2 years ago 4
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Womanizer2985 2 years ago 3
waste of time if it is going to travel on streets. it would be better if it was elevated and didnt have to compeat with cars.
MOJONIXION 3 years ago 2
exactly what I thought when I watched it. All I can foresee are all of the accidents just waiting to happen- and space taken up by the street cars during traffic causing quite a problem.
SpuriousFilms 2 years ago
that would be cool
yanfeb15 2 years ago
no,no I want to go back in time to 1920's Tucson.
StewedTomato 3 years ago
lol then you should have stayed there
yanfeb15 2 years ago
where are the hippies selling dope on 4th ave and the yellow shirt guys who take pictures of everyone who looks under 25 years old?
manoele 3 years ago 4
hey I have been in Tucson for 7 months but I cannot understand why those hippies live here. Why do they prefer to live in AZ. Why not in CA. I don't have any problem with them but I am so curious why they move to Tucson. cause Tucson isn't such a liberal city like SEATTLE or San Fransisco .
ozzy8484 3 years ago
I wish they would connect central tucson to the northwest side. Maybe along oracle from like 1st street.
Dooshganoosh 3 years ago
I would love to see this happen, but I just don't think there's enough traffic between Main Gate and downtown. Even the trolley that's going to run between Congress and 4th just seems like a quick way to get between bars on Saturday night.
dmugger 3 years ago
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Womanizer2985 2 years ago 11
All of America needs to re-vitalize its downtown areas. More reliable and available public transportation and a reduction in crime would be the way to go.
Tubes12AX7k 2 years ago 9
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Womanizer2985 2 years ago 2
tož parádní program,je to jako živý a navíc moje Anitry jako vyšitý ,o)
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krizvasa 2 years ago
In Phoenix, the light rail system are going to be in service in december of this year, and every one will get to ride on it for free untill beginning of Janruary of 2009, I live in Scottdale AZ and I got the news about it. Tucson is smaller than Fresno, and they don't really need a street car, all they need is busses, because they are smaller than phoenix, in our town, we could use light rail system.
sideslide23 3 years ago
this is ŠKODA 10T, from Czech Republic, Europe :-)
Matujtutujka 3 years ago
toronto ontario has streetcars.. there used pretty much just as busses.. and there always PACKED full.
cror 3 years ago
It makes me wonder why NYC doesn't have streetcars.
Maybe one reason is all the traffic congestion, even though NYC is one city in which more people use public transportation than drive. I mean, sure, you see lots of cars. But look at the buses. And once you see the subways, then you get an idea of how many people commute in NYC.
Nice animation btw
sammydenyc 3 years ago
Yeah right. Nobody in Tucson would actually put money down for this. Notice the trolley tracks are missing on 4th Ave? If people won't go for light rail, I doubt the streetcars would ever show up.
jprock1980 3 years ago
i live in tucson and i do not recognize any of these proposed areas. where are the homless people? where are all the 96 year old snow birds driving down the wrong side of the road and making left hand turns from the right lane? and not to mention the lack of garbage and grafiti. i think they mixed this up with some nice town. like san diego
mikey69up 3 years ago
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Good video. I really hope Tucson doesn't get hit with the whole Street Car scam like Phoenix. What's really needed is more room for cars. People aren't going to just stop driving and take the bus - it's a pretty utopian dream, but not practical in the real world.
Viragobob 3 years ago
You are joking, right? It seems it is not practical only in US, in Europe it works for many years now ;)
Hordeman89 3 years ago 4
So basically you are saying instead of not using something completely electric and efficient, you would rather continue using fossil fuels.Light rail is not a scam, if you use it. The people who don't use it, and end up driving the ROUTE OF THE RAIL anyway, which I think is really rediculous!
dontwalkhand 3 years ago
what program/s did you use for this? It's great.
dgmarhefka 3 years ago 3
I think Tucson needs more development downtown and around the university area before something like that would be practical, but I hope it happens. Cool video.
dbastron 4 years ago 3
woow really great
oldnite 4 years ago 3