Lastly having no medical knowledge you probably don't know that what they give this boy is ESTROGEN which is pumped from the ovaries, to the blood of yours and each one of ours MOTHERS. Yes, being a woman causes cancer of uterus which obviously that boy does not have. You're the real abuser. Abuser of BS.
Have you ever though, just for a glimpse of a second, that this boy actually wanted to be a girl? Have a friend who is a trans gender. He didn't do anything about it because he/she cant afford it. I'm just saying: you can beat the SHIT out of a kid and still be OK in the eyes of the God because he would be the only one watching, but u cant change a child's sex if he/she doesn't agrees. Just wont believe it. Lastly: how many children have u adopted?
I could wait for God's judgement here, if it were not for the ongoing SEXUAL CHILD ABUSE committed by these ABOMINATIONS masquerading as women. If I were related to the victim child here, I would:
1) rescue the child
2) tie these filthy whores up and drive them to a FAR FAR away place where no one can hear you scream, and
3) punish them slowly to death for as many days (weeks??) as it takes. I'd bring saline IV and plasma, just to keep 'em going.
I have friends who are gay, and I love the sinner. But the sin, esspecially when children become involved, is definitely hate-worthy. Having had brothers who were victims of abuse, (handicapped children, public school, enough said.) I firmly believe that anyone who abuses a child, gay, straight, parents, teachers, politicians, or whoever they are, will be given their just reward from God. And I hope I'm there to see it when they do.
“I don’t care who anybody sleeps with. If a couple has been together all that time—and there are gay relationships that are more solid than some heterosexual ones—I think it’s fine if they want to get married. I don’t know how people can get so anti-something. Mind your own business, take care of your affairs, and don’t worry about other people so much.” -Betty White
It's weird how all the LBGT apologists have evaporated. It's like they can talk for days about the videos that provoke emotional responses which trigger a bunch of platitudes but not ones that demonstrate a genuine double standard.
When this tragedy ends in death by cancer, this 'couple' will simply sue the manufacturers of the hormone blocking drug, accusing them of a callous disregard for the value of life.
At any given moment, on any given issue, the overriding mark of a leftist is a willingness to believe whatever the heck they want to believe, the rest of the world be damned.
What the hell, THIS IS MOTHERFUCKING CHILD ABUSE ARREST BOTH PARENTS NOW! Get that boy to therapy for the PTSD! Poor kid. Nobody stands up for this child?? What kind of sick state is CA becoming? I live in CA born native, and I hate what it's becoming. Where did this happen?
I usually like your videos, but this video does have an Illuminati twist! Anytime you want to change legislation for a crime (of dummies)...it's like the FAKE war on terror! Should we have bombed Oklahoma because of Timothy McVeigh? I am sick of laws that do NOT pertain to me! I do NOT put bombs in my shoes or underwear! I do not make bombs at my home! But, I will probably be labeled a terrorist under NDAA, because I support the Constitution!
And "for the record" I do think that the couple's decision to inject Tommy with those hormones instead of letting him make his own decision once he reached adulthood was wrong. You can fully support LGBT equality while opposing these kind of practices. Saying that gay marriage is wrong just because one same-sex couple has failed as parents is just like saying that heterosexual marriage is wrong because of Josef Fritzl.
The only heart which has been poisoned is yours. In no more then a hundred years from now you and your ilk will be seen the same way KKK and pro-segregationists were during the time they were influential.
I live in Napa CA and the SF Gay Mafia have 100% have principality and domimion here. The prince of the air sends the gay agendas messages from SF and Napa cowtels to there every whim.
There is no way a child of that age can decide, "I am a girl, living in a boy's body". Because that child has not reached any developmental milestone. That child's body has not yet began excreting the hormones that create the changes that come with maturation. This is a sick sick situation. How they found a physician to comply with their requests is mind boggling, but hey, it's California.
So you are basing this off of one lesbian couple? That's like saying that people should not like Christians, because there are a few crappy Christians...sad really.
Gay agenda? Guy, I'm against what these women did. Marriage for couples of the same gender doesn't keep you from being married with one of the opposite gender.
Lesbo logic = men are bad, women are good. Little boy with two moms and no dad wants to grow up and be a woman. If this is not child abuse then there is no such thing as child abuse.
@MonfangHowlett You might actually get it! THAT is debatable, but you can't debate that with the information presented. The information presented leads you to believe that they have decided to do this without even the pretense of input from the child. My comment shows that. I'm for truth in reporting, unlike Glenn Beck.
@phatsexxy70 Nice side remark against Glenn Beck. Did you pat yourself on the back for that?
It is unfortionally not uncommon or rare for parents to think that the harmful things they are doing are truly good for the child. This is one of those cases. They think that the child just lacks the understanding to know that them turning him into a girl is what he needs done to him for no reason other than some mental problem. And when a parent starts to slip into that mindset then the child suffers
@phatsexxy70 Indeed. Without your comment, I wouldn't be able to reveal what kind of person you are to everyone. I've shown how you and people like you think and I doubt that you are well received. You keep avoiding the point, you made snide remarks to outside factors, and you show that you have no idea how to identify child abuse. Go back to your corner with your friends in the dark. Meanwhile, the majority of us will be rallying against this and this child will be saved, God Willing.
@MonfangHowlett I'm glad you're a FOX News viewer. It fits into the narrative your detractors give you. Mostly that you don't want the whole story. I never said how I feel about this event, just that the story was not being reported on "for the record."
@phatsexxy70 Now you are making assumptions. I never once stated here that I was a Fox News viewer. But I suppose anyone who thinks different from you is a Fox News viewer. It has to make sense.
And I got the whole story, this has happened before. Another little boy made to think he was a girl, screwed up his entire life until he reached adulthood and saw that his parents were insane. But, those parents never pumped him full of hormones. I'm afraid to say that this boy will not fair as well.
@MonfangHowlett One day ago you said "if you listened to my Pastor, Glenn Beck, Molotov Mitchel, Fox news, or read the Bible then you can get an idea of who I am and how I think." on Youtube. Now you're just trying to lie to obscure the issue. You watch FOX News. If the shoe fits, wear it. Now get back to losing other discussions. You're getting your butt whooped all across the internets on my computer.
I agree 100%, there is no way that a child should be subjected to that type of abuse and torment. Those stupid Jews have probably given these people the parent of the year award. This is stick!!!!!
reform "Judaism" is not Jewish... so why would you expect them to behave in accordance with Jewish principles? These women are aptly described as monsters but the "reform" movement has been taken over by the "gay" mafia. You can't really call them Jewish anymore.
Good points Molotov! I feel sorry for that poor boy Tommy. And I know that your point is that the lesbians should be treated the same as a straight couple when it comes to child abuse. I agree and I pray that they are brought to justice as God would have it! My cat watched ur vid too, and even SHE looked shocked! hehe ;)
@justtopissuoff just as being taller is a birth defect, and being shorter is a birth defect, having different color eyes or hair...............wait a minute just like homosexuality none of these are actually defects. A defect is a genetic mutation that causes a child to not be able to function or be mentally retarded. Homosexuality dosen't do this since the person is still fully functional mentally and physically.
hahaha, Moltov claims he is tired of being called a bigot then take a single case of possible child abuse ( he never mentions if the child had GID) and blanket blames all gay people for it. Then claims that "they" (all gay people) are waging a war against Christians.
He is such a bigot its not even funny. This video is the equivalent to claiming he isn't racist but then dig up a story of a black family abusing a child and blaming all black for it. This man should never be taken seriously. XD
You are aware that Tommy/Tammy is currently confused about with which gender s/he identifies, aren't you? These parents are simply affording their child more time to make his/her mind up. Surely this is better than a miserable adulthood spent in the wrong gender body? Or would you rather have Tommy become a man and then have to undergo far more unpleasant gender reassignment?
@SoundOfScilence Just reading around the story, and apprently SHE is quite sure what she wants to be when she grows up.
And to all you folks crying "child abuse", Tammy and her family have to run the gauntlet of a lot of psychologists who are required by law to report suspected abuse. Since none have, I think this is just run-of-the-mill transphobia.
Ie people who'd rather have a dead teen (50% of trans people attempt suicide before they hit 20), than accept difference.
@EsraYmssik1 Oh what a load of crap you have just spewed. Age 18 is there for a reason, no child of 11 can possibly be mature enough to know if he wants to be a she or otherwise. At that age they are not even sexually active, nor have the hormonal changes began its full swing yet. If a person at age 18 wants to change sex, so be it. What kind of a brain dead moron does it to a pre teen.
@samuils And if she decides she's actually a boy, she can stop taking the puberty blockers and just develope later.
Kids like this are closely monitored by medical professionals. If the psychologists thought that the child was being coerced, by law they would HAVE to report it to the authorities. None have.
The couple's two other sons are quite happy neing boys. If the couple had wanted a daughter, they could have adopted one, rather than forcing a boy to be a girl.
@EsraYmssik1 "And if she decides she's actually a boy, she can stop taking the puberty blockers and just develope later."
It doesn't work that way, particularly the long bones. They eventually cap themselves whether or not you're suppressing puberty with hormones. That mean's he'll be permanently small, a bad fate for a man since women, as everybody knows, practically spit on short men. They could be coercing him to be gay, I suppose, but that's not exactly an improvement.
@aynrandgirl Where has it been demonstrated they're coercing Tammy into anything? If that were the case, the doctors would have said something. Plus, as an adopted child, I'm fairly sure the CA CPS is all over this issue like white on rice.
Again, if the doctors and CPS have not raised legal issues, I would say that coersion is not an issue here.
Well of course Tommy is confused about his gender. Who WOULDN'T be confused when their parents are dressing him up as a girl and having him decide if he wants
a sex change or not. No, it's NOT better than being in the wrong gender body because
there is no such thing. If an adult wants to change their own sex then fine. That's their business. But that doesn't mean they were born "wrong." And neither was Tommy born in the "wrong gender body".
@SoundOfScilence If Tommy thinks he was born in "the wrong gender body" I can name two reasons WHY he thinks that way: his parents. As far this being Tommy's own decision I call bullshit on that. I doubt he's even capable of making such a decision. I don't doubt Tommy has felt uncomfortable in the gender he was born as.
But it's not because Tommy was born "wrong". It is because is parents would rather
make their son into a guinea pig rather than teach him some self confidence.
"....we can see a child being publicly abused like this and not lift a finger to do anything about it?" ..... Maybe we should start with the church. How may boys have to be raped by priests before we demand that the church stop covering it up? For the record, maybe you should care what god thinks about those many many many cases of abuse. People are people. There are good parents and bad parents. Being gay says nothing about how you can raise a child. Just like being straight does not.
@JamesKlawon You're the 3rd or 4th person to announce a variation of 'heteros do it too'...i.e. agenda driven at the expense of this boy's situation. Read the comments.
Secondly it never occurs to people that bring up priests...that some, I repeat...SOME of those 'priests' might JUST be homosexual themselves.
Yes, all people are equally capable of abuses, so we'd be grateful if more homosexuals could begin recognising that...and stop sanitising and being precious about their own 'community'.
homosexuality is not normal. Therefore, it's an illness. Homosexuals should not be offended at this, because there's no point of being offended. Being offended doesn't change anything!
@abeismain I'm not offended by the comment about homosexuals but you are wrong about it being an illness. Its a variation not an illness. Why? Because homosexuality isn't a condition that cause direct mental or physical harm. Just like having different color eyes or hair, varying hormone levels, height, shoe size, etc. Using your definition of illness would mean you are just as ill as a homosexual because your genetic make up is different from everyone else's. Don't be mad bro.
@DiscipleOfMetal Hmm...if homosexuality isn't a condition that causes direct harm, then in that case it's a condition where it causes indirect harm. Because it's definitely harming something. Ok thanks :)
Plus, homosexuality is a defect because it is a dead end for reproduction. The question becomes is homosexuality a choice? If the homosexual can make a woman pregnant, then he is not a homosexual. If he can't make a woman pregnant, then he is a homosexual. What do you say?
It's a choice, a preference.. not a 'condition'. Nobody's born with it, gay people have the same anatomy and physical structure as straight people. It's their CHOICE.
@DraughtOfPeace Yeah a random guy on the internet telling me that when I went through puberty I ended up being attracted to same gender was a choice dosen't hold weight with me. I'm a biology major in college and found out that sexual attraction is affected by hormones, not choice. No dice. :p Also,none of what you said dispels the nonsense Molotov said in his video.
Perhaps the circumstances around this boys plight should be considered outside of sexual or religious 'orientation'...however the LESBIAN parents don't see it that way.
@aveyowyns The main goal of homosexual extremists is to insult and humiliate religion as much as possible before destroying it. They are full of hate toward religion and its followers. By merely existing, religion is an insult for them for their chosen lifestyle every second. Now they have accumulated enough power to make a push and they WILL use it if it destroys them in the process cause they are driven by not only hate for those who don't accept them, but to a point, hate to themselves also
@illuminatitv You're an idiot... While the confined crimes of one couple against their child should not be tolerated, it says no more about the necessity of equal rights for same-sex couples, than the crimes of religiously motivated couples (i.e. depriving their children of medical care in lieu of prayer/"spiritual healing"...) say about the right to have a heterosexual marriage.
There's nothing wrong with having your views. But when you want to use the force of government to take away the rights of people you don't like, you deserve to be compared to people like Hitler.
@kutz0341 No. These parents should be held liable for the abuse to their child, but this isolated incident is not indicative of how same sex parents raise their kids. There are plenty of "traditional" sets of parents who do equally appalling and cruel things to their kids.
I had to watch this video several times to believe it. What these two lesbos are doing to that poor little boy is disgusting! I used to be in support of gays adopting children but now after seeing what these monsters are doing to this kid....not any more!
This ONGOING event is shocking and disturbing from whichever vantage point you're looking from.
Where IS the outcry? From the 'LGBT' community? Administering female hormones to a boy without his consent constitutes a form of male genocide. Yes, I said it. Additionally, where is the outcry from the 'LGBT' community for radical feminists like Sheila Jeffreys and Germaine Greer who are ON RECORD as being ANTI-transgender people...not accepting of them at all...the hypocrisy of you ALL is deafening.
You are a hate monger, because you're turning Tommy's case into a gay straight issue. Its not, its an issue of child abuse pure and simple. Perhaps you're right in that the media and the public are too scared to demonize the lesbian parents, but you use this as a point to demonize all same sex couples. That's why I call you a bigot.
@bigun89 No heterosexual couple is doing this specific act, I'm just saying that child abuse is not exclusive to gay couples. Moloturd is just using this 1 sensational case to support his bigoted opinions.
@Cenamark2 He never said heteros held the torch on good parenting. He's just saying stop this couple so there is no precedent set that this be legal or allowed.
@bigun89 He's saying more than that. He's saying this is a reason to stop gay rights all together. Make turning boys into girls illegal, but don't take the right of having kids away from all gay couples on account of one bad couple.
@Cenamark2 Wether there is a god or not, you don't have to be a man or woman of faith to realize that man and women were meant to go together, and no, it doesn't work any other way. Nature is about survival of the species, and nature is not concerned with political correctness. There is no reproduction/survival in homosexuality, therefore homosexuality is unnatural. I'm not sure how a person can be considered a bigot for pointing out the unnatural.
@Captain077 There's over 6 billion of us. I don't think we need to be worrying about gays threatening the survival of the species. If you use nature as an argument you forget that homosexuality has been observed in many other species. You're quite wrong, it is natural.
@FrankDaTank1218 So when you have sex you go "Oh yeah, the thought of producing another member of the species is turning me on. Oh yeah. Babies." Of course not. But the drives that make sex pleasurable lead to procreation. However in over 1500 species those drives can also lead to same sex relations. It brings no detriment to any species and it brings no detriment to you.
@Cenamark2 Who cares, that's the purpose of it, what are the bi-products of rampant recreational sex? Heartbreak, STD's, Adultry, unplanned pregnancy in hetero's, you follow the downright evil logic of "if it feels good, do it", there are enjoyable activities that aren't wrong, but they aren't right BECAUSE THEY FEEL GOOD. Serial killers derive pleasure from murder, serial rapists from rape, you have to possess self control beyond seeking pleasure. Like I said, animals also rape and cannabalise
@Cenamark2 I'm not worried about gays. Its their life, they can do what they please. Also, homosexuality has not been observed in many other species other than a form of dominance, not as a sexual preference. There is one way homosexuality can be considered natural, that being nature, for whatever reason, does not want that individuals DNA to be carried on. I'm sure that statement will get some people riled up, but its the only way homosexuality can be explained in nature.
@Captain077 No you're quite wrong. Homosexuality has been observed in other species for many many reasons. In many cases it is preference. Either way Its completely natural and explained by science. Either way if not being natural is your argument you should throw away all your birth control and make 20 kids like the Duggars.
@Cenamark2 Your statement about homosexuality natural what does that mean? You can observe animal eating there own offspring does that mean we ought to follow that pattern? So what ground on the faith of scientism are you trying to hold on to here?
@Xeonxtreme Well eating our own young doesn't occur naturally in humans, but it does in other animals. Homosexuality occurs naturally in other species and humans. Also if you want to get into being natural you should be an atheist like me. We are all born atheist, and I am a born again atheist. God is man made and fictional.
"Well eating our own young doesn't occur naturally in humans, but it does in other animals. Homosexuality occurs naturally in other species and humans"
Well that destroy your statement about if we see it in nature then we should accept it.
The Bible is completely against such an act, and we know the Bible state that nature, though it was made perfect at the start, is in a state of degradation. So tell me from an evolutionary view point how does the homosexual gen get pass on?
@Xeonxtreme I also love how you insult my "faith in scientism" while reaping the benefits of science everyday. Science has more than doubled our lifespan, gave us computers and internet, exponentially increases the output of farmers. Yet you hate science because it disagrees with your ruddy ol' Buybull.
@Cenamark2 " I also love how you insult my "faith in scientism" while reaping the benefits of science everyday."
I'm gonna give you one name so you may start to understand that science and God isn't the issue. Sir Isaac Newton! Tell me did he or did he not believe in there being a God?
I want you to take a look at the foundation of science through out history so you'll know that most of the founders in their various fields believe in the Divine!
@Xeonxtreme I disagree. Science and God have been enemies for ages. Go back to the oppression of Copernicus and Galileo. Science has challenged God and made his role in our lives and the universe smaller and smaller. Sure Newton believed in God, but he lived 300 years ago. If he were alive today would he still be a Christian? I doubt it. Nowadays hardly any scientists believe in God, because with all we know the notion of God is just plain silly.
@Cenamark2 "I disagree. Science and God have been enemies for ages. Go back to the oppression of Copernicus and Galileo."
Are you serious you just gave examples of more men who had faith and believed that there is a God and both are before Sir Isaac Newton! We have writings and quotes to verify this historical fact that Galileo and Copernicus both believe in God.
Religion and science don't' mix I agree, same goes for God and religion they don't mix! God and science however are inseparable.
@Cenamark2 Now i'll restate the question I ask before that is "tell me from an evolutionary view point how does the homosexual gen get pass on?"
(Given reproduction naturally for humans only take place when a male have sex with a female)
Please enlighten me on this subject! Though I study the matter, and though I find it to be without foundation,ie abiogensis still working on "creating life" from inorganic source, very self-defeating even if succeed!
@Xeonxtreme It passes on because everybody has a little bit of gayness in them. Sexuality is more complicated than just gay/straight. Plenty of people who identify themselves as gay have had children, just as plenty of people who identify themselves as straight (televangelists) can engage in homosexual relationships.
Life did come out of nonlife, but remember it took time. Billions of years did result in life coming to be.
@Cenamark2 Right, I'm going to hijack the discussion you are having with Xeon to take a Science book and crack it across your skull!
It is SCIENTIFIC FACT that Life does not originate from nonlife. Spontaneous Generation as it is called has been dis-proven sence the 19th Century by Louis Pasteur. You learn this in High School so I suspect that you didn't go.
There is NO proof that life came from nonlife. Your argument concerning that is invalid.
@MonfangHowlett Very well you're correct. I guess religion is the answer to the origin of life on earth. Allah created man and is the one true God, and Muhammad is his prophet as told in the holy Qu'ran.
@MonfangHowlett Just kidding I'm not a Muslim. I just like to point out how if you're trying to prove religion over science, that there are other religions out there to show the futility of religious explanations. Pasteurization does nothing to prove life can't form without a God. It took billions of years for self replicating proteins and amino acids to form. Those processes are not threat to your canned goods.
And yes he did read one of my comments in one of his videos.
@Cenamark2 I'm not proving anything over Science. I am only speaking on Science. Pasteur disproved Spontaneous Generation by boiling broth for 15 mins and trapping it in a swan neck flask. For one year, nothing grew in it. However, one day after he broke the neck of the flask, the broth was cloudy. Proving that life must have living source to grow and disproving Spontaneous Generation.
Him being religious is a moot point. He disproved that life can not come from nonlife.
@MonfangHowlett All I'm saying is that Pasteur disproved nothing because the forces that take place to create life take a bit more than a year to make. If Pasteur wanted his experiment to have a bit more merit he should have given the flask a few hundred million more years.
@Cenamark2 By your same logic, you can not prove abiogenesis or spontaneous generation because no one has been around for several million years. You are operating on faith rather than scientific fact. As such, this argument is null because we are moving into philosophy rather than science. When you want to argue facts, let me know.
@MonfangHowlett There is other evidence. Just as we don't have to see a fish grow legs we still have plenty of evidence for evolution. You're the one needing a surgical cranial removal from the rectum. Are you some kind of troll, cause I doubt you're this stupid.
@Cenamark2 Now you are talking about Evolution. Are we talking about Evolution, which no scientist disagrees with or Abiogenesis, which is a weak theory with no basis in fact? And why are you getting hostile? I never once mentioned anything negative about you aside from cracking a book of science up side your head about abiogenesis. Now I state again. When you want to talk about facts, let me know.
@MonfangHowlett Facts? What facts? All you've given me is the fact that a pasteurized container won't spring forth new life within a year. If you've got more wonderful funderful facts, then give them to me.
@Cenamark2 The fact is reliant.. It kills off the living things in it before hand. He had boiled it so that there wasn't something alive in it before hand that would contaminate the test thus proving that nonlife can not generate life. There has been no test that proves that life can be generated from nonlife. There is only speculation and assumptions. No one has ever done a test that generated life from nonlife. You must accept this because it is fact.
@MonfangHowlett And I told you that Pasteur's experiment merely proved that life won't form within a year. Life took MILLIONS of years to form, MILLIONS MILLIONS MILLIONS! Did I finally reach you? MILLIONS!!! I'm aware no test has shown it to happen, but that's because it takes MILLIONS of years to accomplish and the science isn't even 150 years old yet. It takes MILLIONS years for those proteins to form RNA and DNA. MILLIONS OF YEARS.
@Cenamark2 What strange notion is that? Science is only 150 years old? Science is defined as: "The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural..." The moment that man first questioned something, science existed. It didn't start in the 1800's. But we have agreed that because it can not be tested, it is in the realm of philosophy, not science. Because it can not be proven, it requires faith like religion.
@MonfangHowlett I've been reading more into this. Turns out all Pasteur did was disprove a thousands year old theory of Spontaneous Generation. Ambiogenesis does have proven support from a lab. In the Urey–Miller experiment amino acids were created in a lab.
@Cenamark2 No you didn't! You brought out the Urey-Miller card! Ready for this? 1: The amino acids did not form into living compounds. 2: The amino acids contained >40% toxic amino acids that would have prevented life. 3: They failed to synthesize all of the required amino acids. 4: The test is now invalid because the theory of how the earth was billions of years ago has changed.
@MonfangHowlett You're right. Stupid science never did shit for us. All it did was multiply our life span, our crop yields, speed of travel, telecommunications. Blah. Fuck science.
@Cenamark2 What are you talking about? We are talking about facts here. Man up and take that you are beat. Then learn from it and expand your mind to new ideas. Accept the facts and then move forward.
I support science mainly because scripture says we should be scientists as well as theological. (Book of Job). And I used science to bring forth the facts to you.
@MonfangHowlett Okay so you've now confirmed you are a Christian. So what makes your religion true and not the others? Also why are prophets for the Judeo Christian God only from one part of the world? Why did your God not reveal himself to people world wide? If he is all powerful and concerned about whether or not he gets worshiped why did he allow the rest of the world to ignorantly worship other gods?
@Cenamark2 WHOA! What is with the topic change? We are debating science, not religion or philosophy. Get back on topic or admit your defeat. I refuse to change it without you admitting that the facts are against abiogenesis.
@Cenamark2 Actually carbon dating of diamonds, and the salinity of he ocean are two things that go against mainstream earth dating. The other weird thing is 10,000 years ago we were supposed to be cavemen and yet there are pyramids and cities at the bottom of the ocean that has been below sea level for 35,000 years and who know how much longer they were around before the sea rose to that level. Nothing makes sense to science anymore. All bets are off.
@Cenamark2 I promote the truth, you call it crazy pseudo science because it is inconvenient for your crazy pseudo science that is 'mainstream' and political in nature. Many top scientists in the world call mainstream theory bankrupt, they have evidence for this. You see there is a little thing called agenda, and that drives and funds much of the 'science' and 'facts' that are indoctrinated in many colleges and newsletters. How do you explain life replication before DNA existed?
@weseyedwalk So you believe there's a conspiracy where 99% of the world's scientists conspire to falsify findings to disprove God? I don't think science has a full explanation for the origin of life, but at least science knows its limitations and works to overcome them. Its rather hard to solve a mystery that started billions of years ago.
@Cenamark2 99%, DON'T believe that, much much less, probably in reality less than 50% but in the politically motivation fund driven machine, silence gets you grants. Best not to mention personal opinions and keep the grants coming and feed the kids. Science doesn't know it's limitations because it cannot explain, that is the paradox of it, why does a black hose defy the laws of physics? Nobody knows. In reality we can't even explain why gravity happens, only describe/predict it.
@MonfangHowlett abiogenesis is impossible, RNA cannot self replicate, only synthetic which has never been in nature, DNA is required and the encoded info/instructions must be present first, life on earth is mathematically impossible without influence/guidance. DNA code contains abstract ideas that are not yet realized, now how do you get an abstract idea, a thought or concept, from nothing? Atheism is scientifically impossible, and silly in the eyes of true science.
@MonfangHowlett and what do you mean the theory on how the earth was billions of years old has changed? No it hasn't.
Plus they showed that the Amino acids could form.. As I said earlier MILLIONS OF YEARS are required. Don't tell me you think the world is Thousands of years old.
@Cenamark2 The theory is constantly changing. I'm keeping up with it. What you learned in public schools is no longer accepted fact. And yes they did. However, I state again that they did not prove Abiogenesis because they did not form into life nor could they ever form into life.
And yes, I am a Young Earth believer as is most of the world. The facts lead to that conclusion. If you are going to bring up the millions of years thing as a defense, then you want to debate philosophy, not science.
@Cenamark2 Abiogenesis is defined as: "a hypothetical organic phenomenon by which living organisms are created from nonliving matter." Spontaneous Generation is defined as: "The supposed production of living organisms from nonliving matter."
@Cenamark2 " It passes on because everybody has a little bit of gayness in them. Sexuality is more complicated than just gay/straight. Plenty of people who identify themselves as gay have had children"
??? So let me get this right, in order for the "gayness" to be pass on to the next generation, gay couples, will have stop the "gayness" to perform a heterosexual act? (correct)... If they weren't rape (assuming) doesn't that mean it's a choice?! How is this possible?! given "born this way"!
@Cenamark2 You...started off ALL WRONG by immediately throwing in the red herring of 'heteros do it too'. You do realise that by doing that you immediately and without question belittled the circumstance of that boy, DEHUMANISED him in favour of the 'rights' of the lesbian couple...get outta here...
@reliableandrew Its terrible what's happened to that child, but molitov belittles the child's plight, by using the tragedy to back his homophobic agenda. You get outta here.
@Cenamark2 You sound young...(judging by the way you copied me there)...but I said 'get outta here' out of pure frustration for you throwing in the red herring. I'm calmer now.
If you can get away from Molotov's supposedly 'homophobic agenda' just once... to see the bigger picture, that would benefit you...perhaps you don't realise that you're coming across as equally agenda driven.
@reliableandrew I guess I am. I just naturally disagree with Molotov. But take this story aside and molotov would still be ranting and raving about how homosexuality is evil because some fictional character said so.
@Cenamark2 You admit you ARE agenda driven then. Well, that means you are as equally culpable as Molotov...disagreeing with each other...his christian vs your atheist agenda...in the meantime, the boy is being used as a political tool by both of you.
Perhaps this boys plight could be considered outside of sexual or religious 'orientation'...however the LESBIAN parents don't see it that way.
this is so disturbing to hear about! how could california let someone do this to a child!
gay people always say they were born that way and learn as a teen or young adult that they are different, so how can they justify trying to make a child gay on purpose!
I'm not mormon, and I'm married to 1 woman. But the whole "1 man, 1 woman" american value is NOT BIBLICAL. No where in the bible can ANY pastor find a decree or scripture in the bible that says its a SIN to have more than 1 wife. David had many, and so did Solomon, and they were great heroes of the bible. I think Molotov Mitchel did a For The Record Episode on that.
@RightWingExtremis100 Ok "mormon" there are many Old Testament acts that were done that God allowed under the law, can you find me an example of what you are referring to for New Testament Christians that supports multiple marital partners?
@YhwhKhaiMostHigh 1 Timothy 3:2,:"A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;". Here Paul states that a requirement to be in church leadership is that he must have 1 wife. Now Paul would have elaborated if polygamy was a sin, but he does not. And if you condemn anyone who had more than 1 wife, you condemn almost ALL of the old testament heroes, including Moses. And I am a Messianic Jew, not a mormon as I said.
@YhwhKhaiMostHigh Besides, you need to watch this For The Record Episode called "Islam and Polygamy". Here, Molotov Mitchel explains the same thing that I just explained to you.
This 'thing' is tolerated but prayers in school is not. The liberal society is so full of shit, anything that they see "fit" is right and anyone who disagrees is crucified with their smartass BS.
I don't believe as you do, but if what you are saying is honest and correct then the women in this story need to suffer the consequences of their actions. Some form of felonious child endangerment needs to be charged against them. The idea that children are not protected from someone abusing them in this faction should be abhorrent to our society.
Too bad I'm not intimated by their garbage and played out name-calling. The "hater", "bigot", "homophobe" cards are rather old and only used as a silencing technique by gays and their pathetic activists. Going back and forth with them is useless because they are void of common sense. All of their arguments are moot and emotionally charged. Yes, we warned of the slippery slope, but America coward under their whining and legislated perversion.
@YhwhKhaiMostHigh I agree with his point that no one should be allowed to get away with this, and it's probably easier for them to do so since they're homosexual because no one wants to "offend" them. That is wrong. However, you don't have to be a homosexual to be fucked up and hurt children. Labeling a whole community for what a few do isn't right either. Remember that many used to think interracial marriage was wrong too.
@Riflemanm16a2 "Remember that many used to think interracial marriage was wrong too." Yeah, I hear ya, but that's like comparing apples with oranges. One is about race and the other about behavior. I'm against legislation that gives folks special rights because of their behavior - deadly behavior I might add. There's nothing deadly about interracial marriages.
"However, you don't have to be a homosexual to be fucked up and hurt children."
Parent can make u believe your worthless, but not that your a woman.
MadMaxpl 4 weeks ago
Lastly having no medical knowledge you probably don't know that what they give this boy is ESTROGEN which is pumped from the ovaries, to the blood of yours and each one of ours MOTHERS. Yes, being a woman causes cancer of uterus which obviously that boy does not have. You're the real abuser. Abuser of BS.
MadMaxpl 4 weeks ago
Have you ever though, just for a glimpse of a second, that this boy actually wanted to be a girl? Have a friend who is a trans gender. He didn't do anything about it because he/she cant afford it. I'm just saying: you can beat the SHIT out of a kid and still be OK in the eyes of the God because he would be the only one watching, but u cant change a child's sex if he/she doesn't agrees. Just wont believe it. Lastly: how many children have u adopted?
MadMaxpl 4 weeks ago
I could wait for God's judgement here, if it were not for the ongoing SEXUAL CHILD ABUSE committed by these ABOMINATIONS masquerading as women. If I were related to the victim child here, I would:
1) rescue the child
2) tie these filthy whores up and drive them to a FAR FAR away place where no one can hear you scream, and
3) punish them slowly to death for as many days (weeks??) as it takes. I'd bring saline IV and plasma, just to keep 'em going.
Only problem is, my name isn't Frank Castle.
Minuteman1969 1 month ago
I have friends who are gay, and I love the sinner. But the sin, esspecially when children become involved, is definitely hate-worthy. Having had brothers who were victims of abuse, (handicapped children, public school, enough said.) I firmly believe that anyone who abuses a child, gay, straight, parents, teachers, politicians, or whoever they are, will be given their just reward from God. And I hope I'm there to see it when they do.
NecTimeoNecSperno 1 month ago
“I don’t care who anybody sleeps with. If a couple has been together all that time—and there are gay relationships that are more solid than some heterosexual ones—I think it’s fine if they want to get married. I don’t know how people can get so anti-something. Mind your own business, take care of your affairs, and don’t worry about other people so much.” -Betty White
CesarManiaX 1 month ago
I'm not religious or anything, but that is messed up. I see I never want to move to California if they actually will tolerate this crap.
motter28218 1 month ago
It's weird how all the LBGT apologists have evaporated. It's like they can talk for days about the videos that provoke emotional responses which trigger a bunch of platitudes but not ones that demonstrate a genuine double standard.
wokeupmusician 1 month ago 5
When this tragedy ends in death by cancer, this 'couple' will simply sue the manufacturers of the hormone blocking drug, accusing them of a callous disregard for the value of life.
At any given moment, on any given issue, the overriding mark of a leftist is a willingness to believe whatever the heck they want to believe, the rest of the world be damned.
ObeKanobe 1 month ago
Label me a homophobe if you wish - God's opinion of me is the only thing that matters. One on God's side is a majority in His economy.
BT3701 1 month ago
What the hell, THIS IS MOTHERFUCKING CHILD ABUSE ARREST BOTH PARENTS NOW! Get that boy to therapy for the PTSD! Poor kid. Nobody stands up for this child?? What kind of sick state is CA becoming? I live in CA born native, and I hate what it's becoming. Where did this happen?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
yet I spank my child and they want to call the cops on me?!?!?!?
regdawgformerusmc 1 month ago
I usually like your videos, but this video does have an Illuminati twist! Anytime you want to change legislation for a crime (of dummies)...it's like the FAKE war on terror! Should we have bombed Oklahoma because of Timothy McVeigh? I am sick of laws that do NOT pertain to me! I do NOT put bombs in my shoes or underwear! I do not make bombs at my home! But, I will probably be labeled a terrorist under NDAA, because I support the Constitution!
RonPaulKicksAss 2 months ago
And "for the record" I do think that the couple's decision to inject Tommy with those hormones instead of letting him make his own decision once he reached adulthood was wrong. You can fully support LGBT equality while opposing these kind of practices. Saying that gay marriage is wrong just because one same-sex couple has failed as parents is just like saying that heterosexual marriage is wrong because of Josef Fritzl.
Yeger666 2 months ago
The only heart which has been poisoned is yours. In no more then a hundred years from now you and your ilk will be seen the same way KKK and pro-segregationists were during the time they were influential.
Yeger666 2 months ago
I live in Napa CA and the SF Gay Mafia have 100% have principality and domimion here. The prince of the air sends the gay agendas messages from SF and Napa cowtels to there every whim.
LieTest 2 months ago
There is no way a child of that age can decide, "I am a girl, living in a boy's body". Because that child has not reached any developmental milestone. That child's body has not yet began excreting the hormones that create the changes that come with maturation. This is a sick sick situation. How they found a physician to comply with their requests is mind boggling, but hey, it's California.
imrnlil 2 months ago
So you are basing this off of one lesbian couple? That's like saying that people should not like Christians, because there are a few crappy Christians...sad really.
roickrocks 2 months ago
@aveyowyns if they adopted a girl, they'd raise her as a guy...its a gay agenda
ProConstitutioner 2 months ago 8
Gay agenda? Guy, I'm against what these women did. Marriage for couples of the same gender doesn't keep you from being married with one of the opposite gender.
SwobyJ 2 months ago
Lesbo logic = men are bad, women are good. Little boy with two moms and no dad wants to grow up and be a woman. If this is not child abuse then there is no such thing as child abuse.
UtherPendragan 2 months ago 5
These women are nuts, its really really sad if LGBT activists think this is right.
iamjhakas 2 months ago
i would want to do something if it happened near me, but really, what would you do? i'm seriously in the dark about what options would be.
jbbremerton 2 months ago
That is SICK!!!
beasley1987 2 months ago 2
You couldn't even mention that the kid says he's a girl trapped in a boy's body "for the record?"
phatsexxy70 2 months ago
@phatsexxy70 Did he say that or did his parents make him think that?
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett You might actually get it! THAT is debatable, but you can't debate that with the information presented. The information presented leads you to believe that they have decided to do this without even the pretense of input from the child. My comment shows that. I'm for truth in reporting, unlike Glenn Beck.
phatsexxy70 1 month ago
@phatsexxy70 Nice side remark against Glenn Beck. Did you pat yourself on the back for that?
It is unfortionally not uncommon or rare for parents to think that the harmful things they are doing are truly good for the child. This is one of those cases. They think that the child just lacks the understanding to know that them turning him into a girl is what he needs done to him for no reason other than some mental problem. And when a parent starts to slip into that mindset then the child suffers
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett You're totally missing the point. Without my comment you would not be able to have this discussion. You're welcome.
phatsexxy70 1 month ago
@phatsexxy70 Indeed. Without your comment, I wouldn't be able to reveal what kind of person you are to everyone. I've shown how you and people like you think and I doubt that you are well received. You keep avoiding the point, you made snide remarks to outside factors, and you show that you have no idea how to identify child abuse. Go back to your corner with your friends in the dark. Meanwhile, the majority of us will be rallying against this and this child will be saved, God Willing.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett I'm glad you're a FOX News viewer. It fits into the narrative your detractors give you. Mostly that you don't want the whole story. I never said how I feel about this event, just that the story was not being reported on "for the record."
phatsexxy70 1 month ago
@phatsexxy70 Now you are making assumptions. I never once stated here that I was a Fox News viewer. But I suppose anyone who thinks different from you is a Fox News viewer. It has to make sense.
And I got the whole story, this has happened before. Another little boy made to think he was a girl, screwed up his entire life until he reached adulthood and saw that his parents were insane. But, those parents never pumped him full of hormones. I'm afraid to say that this boy will not fair as well.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
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@MonfangHowlett One day ago you said "if you listened to my Pastor, Glenn Beck, Molotov Mitchel, Fox news, or read the Bible then you can get an idea of who I am and how I think." on Youtube. Now you're just trying to lie to obscure the issue. You watch FOX News. If the shoe fits, wear it. Now get back to losing other discussions. You're getting your butt whooped all across the internets on my computer.
phatsexxy70 1 month ago
Why does it have to be in your own neighbourhood before you'll take action? Where do you live? Mars?
steve0281 2 months ago
Not every lesbian couple is like that. I would personally kill those lesbians.
CesarManiaX 2 months ago
I agree 100%, there is no way that a child should be subjected to that type of abuse and torment. Those stupid Jews have probably given these people the parent of the year award. This is stick!!!!!
Armornone 2 months ago
You are more Jewish than you know, Molotov.
Downfacingdog 2 months ago
Fantastic video!!!!!!
TheRevering 2 months ago 12
reform "Judaism" is not Jewish... so why would you expect them to behave in accordance with Jewish principles? These women are aptly described as monsters but the "reform" movement has been taken over by the "gay" mafia. You can't really call them Jewish anymore.
andrewgelbman 2 months ago
Good points Molotov! I feel sorry for that poor boy Tommy. And I know that your point is that the lesbians should be treated the same as a straight couple when it comes to child abuse. I agree and I pray that they are brought to justice as God would have it! My cat watched ur vid too, and even SHE looked shocked! hehe ;)
MrAmericanPatriot76 2 months ago
@justtopissuoff just as being taller is a birth defect, and being shorter is a birth defect, having different color eyes or hair...............wait a minute just like homosexuality none of these are actually defects. A defect is a genetic mutation that causes a child to not be able to function or be mentally retarded. Homosexuality dosen't do this since the person is still fully functional mentally and physically.
DiscipleOfMetal 2 months ago
hahaha, Moltov claims he is tired of being called a bigot then take a single case of possible child abuse ( he never mentions if the child had GID) and blanket blames all gay people for it. Then claims that "they" (all gay people) are waging a war against Christians.
He is such a bigot its not even funny. This video is the equivalent to claiming he isn't racist but then dig up a story of a black family abusing a child and blaming all black for it. This man should never be taken seriously. XD
DiscipleOfMetal 2 months ago
You are aware that Tommy/Tammy is currently confused about with which gender s/he identifies, aren't you? These parents are simply affording their child more time to make his/her mind up. Surely this is better than a miserable adulthood spent in the wrong gender body? Or would you rather have Tommy become a man and then have to undergo far more unpleasant gender reassignment?
SoundOfScilence 2 months ago
@SoundOfScilence Just reading around the story, and apprently SHE is quite sure what she wants to be when she grows up.
And to all you folks crying "child abuse", Tammy and her family have to run the gauntlet of a lot of psychologists who are required by law to report suspected abuse. Since none have, I think this is just run-of-the-mill transphobia.
Ie people who'd rather have a dead teen (50% of trans people attempt suicide before they hit 20), than accept difference.
EsraYmssik1 2 months ago
@EsraYmssik1 Oh what a load of crap you have just spewed. Age 18 is there for a reason, no child of 11 can possibly be mature enough to know if he wants to be a she or otherwise. At that age they are not even sexually active, nor have the hormonal changes began its full swing yet. If a person at age 18 wants to change sex, so be it. What kind of a brain dead moron does it to a pre teen.
samuils 2 months ago
@samuils And if she decides she's actually a boy, she can stop taking the puberty blockers and just develope later.
Kids like this are closely monitored by medical professionals. If the psychologists thought that the child was being coerced, by law they would HAVE to report it to the authorities. None have.
The couple's two other sons are quite happy neing boys. If the couple had wanted a daughter, they could have adopted one, rather than forcing a boy to be a girl.
EsraYmssik1 2 months ago
@EsraYmssik1 "And if she decides she's actually a boy, she can stop taking the puberty blockers and just develope later."
It doesn't work that way, particularly the long bones. They eventually cap themselves whether or not you're suppressing puberty with hormones. That mean's he'll be permanently small, a bad fate for a man since women, as everybody knows, practically spit on short men. They could be coercing him to be gay, I suppose, but that's not exactly an improvement.
aynrandgirl 2 months ago
@aynrandgirl Where has it been demonstrated they're coercing Tammy into anything? If that were the case, the doctors would have said something. Plus, as an adopted child, I'm fairly sure the CA CPS is all over this issue like white on rice.
Again, if the doctors and CPS have not raised legal issues, I would say that coersion is not an issue here.
EsraYmssik1 2 months ago
@SoundOfScilence
Well of course Tommy is confused about his gender. Who WOULDN'T be confused when their parents are dressing him up as a girl and having him decide if he wants
a sex change or not. No, it's NOT better than being in the wrong gender body because
there is no such thing. If an adult wants to change their own sex then fine. That's their business. But that doesn't mean they were born "wrong." And neither was Tommy born in the "wrong gender body".
mrsticky005 2 months ago
@SoundOfScilence If Tommy thinks he was born in "the wrong gender body" I can name two reasons WHY he thinks that way: his parents. As far this being Tommy's own decision I call bullshit on that. I doubt he's even capable of making such a decision. I don't doubt Tommy has felt uncomfortable in the gender he was born as.
But it's not because Tommy was born "wrong". It is because is parents would rather
make their son into a guinea pig rather than teach him some self confidence.
mrsticky005 2 months ago
cali police have better shit to do like abuse people
mace085 2 months ago
"....we can see a child being publicly abused like this and not lift a finger to do anything about it?" ..... Maybe we should start with the church. How may boys have to be raped by priests before we demand that the church stop covering it up? For the record, maybe you should care what god thinks about those many many many cases of abuse. People are people. There are good parents and bad parents. Being gay says nothing about how you can raise a child. Just like being straight does not.
JamesKlawon 2 months ago
@JamesKlawon You're the 3rd or 4th person to announce a variation of 'heteros do it too'...i.e. agenda driven at the expense of this boy's situation. Read the comments.
Secondly it never occurs to people that bring up priests...that some, I repeat...SOME of those 'priests' might JUST be homosexual themselves.
Yes, all people are equally capable of abuses, so we'd be grateful if more homosexuals could begin recognising that...and stop sanitising and being precious about their own 'community'.
reliableandrew 2 months ago
hahahaha
primetimebeatz 2 months ago
homosexuality is not normal. Therefore, it's an illness. Homosexuals should not be offended at this, because there's no point of being offended. Being offended doesn't change anything!
abeismain 2 months ago 2
@abeismain You're a fucking moron.
bailesie 2 months ago
@bailesie It doesn't matter if i'm a moron!
abeismain 2 months ago
@abeismain I'm not offended by the comment about homosexuals but you are wrong about it being an illness. Its a variation not an illness. Why? Because homosexuality isn't a condition that cause direct mental or physical harm. Just like having different color eyes or hair, varying hormone levels, height, shoe size, etc. Using your definition of illness would mean you are just as ill as a homosexual because your genetic make up is different from everyone else's. Don't be mad bro.
DiscipleOfMetal 2 months ago
@DiscipleOfMetal Hmm...if homosexuality isn't a condition that causes direct harm, then in that case it's a condition where it causes indirect harm. Because it's definitely harming something. Ok thanks :)
Plus, homosexuality is a defect because it is a dead end for reproduction. The question becomes is homosexuality a choice? If the homosexual can make a woman pregnant, then he is not a homosexual. If he can't make a woman pregnant, then he is a homosexual. What do you say?
abeismain 2 months ago
@DiscipleOfMetal
It's a choice, a preference.. not a 'condition'. Nobody's born with it, gay people have the same anatomy and physical structure as straight people. It's their CHOICE.
DraughtOfPeace 2 months ago
@DraughtOfPeace Yeah a random guy on the internet telling me that when I went through puberty I ended up being attracted to same gender was a choice dosen't hold weight with me. I'm a biology major in college and found out that sexual attraction is affected by hormones, not choice. No dice. :p Also,none of what you said dispels the nonsense Molotov said in his video.
DiscipleOfMetal 2 months ago
I wonder what kind of synagogue has two lesbians attending?
leostomicek 2 months ago
Outstanding report.
Those 2 lesbians should be charged with child abuse
& the politicians with aiding in the abuse.
captianusa 2 months ago
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Perhaps the circumstances around this boys plight should be considered outside of sexual or religious 'orientation'...however the LESBIAN parents don't see it that way.
reliableandrew 2 months ago
Why didn't they just adopt a GIRL?!
aveyowyns 2 months ago 16
@aveyowyns A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y...maybe someone brave soul could ask them that.
reliableandrew 2 months ago
@aveyowyns Because they hate men and want to turn everyone into women. It's revenge for perceived hurt.
ijzerkoekie 2 months ago
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@aveyowyns "Why didn't they just adopt a GIRL?!"
- Because that wouldn't be fun.
RefinersFire298 2 months ago
@aveyowyns The main goal of homosexual extremists is to insult and humiliate religion as much as possible before destroying it. They are full of hate toward religion and its followers. By merely existing, religion is an insult for them for their chosen lifestyle every second. Now they have accumulated enough power to make a push and they WILL use it if it destroys them in the process cause they are driven by not only hate for those who don't accept them, but to a point, hate to themselves also
9VirtuesKeeper 2 months ago
Excellent again.
penguinistas 2 months ago
@illuminatitv You're an idiot... While the confined crimes of one couple against their child should not be tolerated, it says no more about the necessity of equal rights for same-sex couples, than the crimes of religiously motivated couples (i.e. depriving their children of medical care in lieu of prayer/"spiritual healing"...) say about the right to have a heterosexual marriage.
Go fuck yourself and have a nice day. ;-)
theirishfrog 2 months ago
Yea... I would definitely consider that outright abuse...
kutz0341 2 months ago
There's nothing wrong with having your views. But when you want to use the force of government to take away the rights of people you don't like, you deserve to be compared to people like Hitler.
inncntcrmnl 2 months ago
@inncntcrmnl you mean like not allowing a child to grow up naturally & healthily? is that of what you speak?
kutz0341 2 months ago
@kutz0341 No. These parents should be held liable for the abuse to their child, but this isolated incident is not indicative of how same sex parents raise their kids. There are plenty of "traditional" sets of parents who do equally appalling and cruel things to their kids.
inncntcrmnl 2 months ago
Well MM according to Ron Paul this vid makes you a gay-hater like Rick Santorum. Wanna make a FTR about that?
jrc99us 2 months ago
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Cenamark2 2 months ago
I had to watch this video several times to believe it. What these two lesbos are doing to that poor little boy is disgusting! I used to be in support of gays adopting children but now after seeing what these monsters are doing to this kid....not any more!
daggerrun 2 months ago
@daggerrun Huh? One case of this changes your views entirely? Go meet some wonderful same-sex parents then - there's some wonderful ones out there.
SwobyJ 2 months ago
This ONGOING event is shocking and disturbing from whichever vantage point you're looking from.
Where IS the outcry? From the 'LGBT' community? Administering female hormones to a boy without his consent constitutes a form of male genocide. Yes, I said it. Additionally, where is the outcry from the 'LGBT' community for radical feminists like Sheila Jeffreys and Germaine Greer who are ON RECORD as being ANTI-transgender people...not accepting of them at all...the hypocrisy of you ALL is deafening.
reliableandrew 2 months ago
Ah man, that poor kid is going to be screwed up... Well, its probably too late, he probably already is.
Captain077 2 months ago
You are a hate monger, because you're turning Tommy's case into a gay straight issue. Its not, its an issue of child abuse pure and simple. Perhaps you're right in that the media and the public are too scared to demonize the lesbian parents, but you use this as a point to demonize all same sex couples. That's why I call you a bigot.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 Name a heterosexual couple doing this.
bigun89 2 months ago
@bigun89 No heterosexual couple is doing this specific act, I'm just saying that child abuse is not exclusive to gay couples. Moloturd is just using this 1 sensational case to support his bigoted opinions.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 He never said heteros held the torch on good parenting. He's just saying stop this couple so there is no precedent set that this be legal or allowed.
bigun89 2 months ago
@bigun89 He's saying more than that. He's saying this is a reason to stop gay rights all together. Make turning boys into girls illegal, but don't take the right of having kids away from all gay couples on account of one bad couple.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 Wether there is a god or not, you don't have to be a man or woman of faith to realize that man and women were meant to go together, and no, it doesn't work any other way. Nature is about survival of the species, and nature is not concerned with political correctness. There is no reproduction/survival in homosexuality, therefore homosexuality is unnatural. I'm not sure how a person can be considered a bigot for pointing out the unnatural.
Captain077 2 months ago
@Captain077 There's over 6 billion of us. I don't think we need to be worrying about gays threatening the survival of the species. If you use nature as an argument you forget that homosexuality has been observed in many other species. You're quite wrong, it is natural.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 Rape, murder, and cannabalism have also been observed. Your point?
FrankDaTank1218 2 months ago
@FrankDaTank1218 Because homosexual acts = Murder, rape, and cannibalism...
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@FrankDaTank1218 So when you have sex you go "Oh yeah, the thought of producing another member of the species is turning me on. Oh yeah. Babies." Of course not. But the drives that make sex pleasurable lead to procreation. However in over 1500 species those drives can also lead to same sex relations. It brings no detriment to any species and it brings no detriment to you.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 Who cares, that's the purpose of it, what are the bi-products of rampant recreational sex? Heartbreak, STD's, Adultry, unplanned pregnancy in hetero's, you follow the downright evil logic of "if it feels good, do it", there are enjoyable activities that aren't wrong, but they aren't right BECAUSE THEY FEEL GOOD. Serial killers derive pleasure from murder, serial rapists from rape, you have to possess self control beyond seeking pleasure. Like I said, animals also rape and cannabalise
FrankDaTank1218 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 I'm not worried about gays. Its their life, they can do what they please. Also, homosexuality has not been observed in many other species other than a form of dominance, not as a sexual preference. There is one way homosexuality can be considered natural, that being nature, for whatever reason, does not want that individuals DNA to be carried on. I'm sure that statement will get some people riled up, but its the only way homosexuality can be explained in nature.
Captain077 2 months ago
@Captain077 No you're quite wrong. Homosexuality has been observed in other species for many many reasons. In many cases it is preference. Either way Its completely natural and explained by science. Either way if not being natural is your argument you should throw away all your birth control and make 20 kids like the Duggars.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 Your statement about homosexuality natural what does that mean? You can observe animal eating there own offspring does that mean we ought to follow that pattern? So what ground on the faith of scientism are you trying to hold on to here?
Xeonxtreme 2 months ago
@Xeonxtreme Well eating our own young doesn't occur naturally in humans, but it does in other animals. Homosexuality occurs naturally in other species and humans. Also if you want to get into being natural you should be an atheist like me. We are all born atheist, and I am a born again atheist. God is man made and fictional.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2
"Well eating our own young doesn't occur naturally in humans, but it does in other animals. Homosexuality occurs naturally in other species and humans"
Well that destroy your statement about if we see it in nature then we should accept it.
The Bible is completely against such an act, and we know the Bible state that nature, though it was made perfect at the start, is in a state of degradation. So tell me from an evolutionary view point how does the homosexual gen get pass on?
Xeonxtreme 2 months ago
@Xeonxtreme I also love how you insult my "faith in scientism" while reaping the benefits of science everyday. Science has more than doubled our lifespan, gave us computers and internet, exponentially increases the output of farmers. Yet you hate science because it disagrees with your ruddy ol' Buybull.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 " I also love how you insult my "faith in scientism" while reaping the benefits of science everyday."
I'm gonna give you one name so you may start to understand that science and God isn't the issue. Sir Isaac Newton! Tell me did he or did he not believe in there being a God?
I want you to take a look at the foundation of science through out history so you'll know that most of the founders in their various fields believe in the Divine!
It's your lack of understanding about science.
Xeonxtreme 2 months ago
@Xeonxtreme I disagree. Science and God have been enemies for ages. Go back to the oppression of Copernicus and Galileo. Science has challenged God and made his role in our lives and the universe smaller and smaller. Sure Newton believed in God, but he lived 300 years ago. If he were alive today would he still be a Christian? I doubt it. Nowadays hardly any scientists believe in God, because with all we know the notion of God is just plain silly.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 "I disagree. Science and God have been enemies for ages. Go back to the oppression of Copernicus and Galileo."
Are you serious you just gave examples of more men who had faith and believed that there is a God and both are before Sir Isaac Newton! We have writings and quotes to verify this historical fact that Galileo and Copernicus both believe in God.
Religion and science don't' mix I agree, same goes for God and religion they don't mix! God and science however are inseparable.
Xeonxtreme 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 Now i'll restate the question I ask before that is "tell me from an evolutionary view point how does the homosexual gen get pass on?"
(Given reproduction naturally for humans only take place when a male have sex with a female)
Please enlighten me on this subject! Though I study the matter, and though I find it to be without foundation,ie abiogensis still working on "creating life" from inorganic source, very self-defeating even if succeed!
Xeonxtreme 2 months ago
@Xeonxtreme It passes on because everybody has a little bit of gayness in them. Sexuality is more complicated than just gay/straight. Plenty of people who identify themselves as gay have had children, just as plenty of people who identify themselves as straight (televangelists) can engage in homosexual relationships.
Life did come out of nonlife, but remember it took time. Billions of years did result in life coming to be.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 Right, I'm going to hijack the discussion you are having with Xeon to take a Science book and crack it across your skull!
It is SCIENTIFIC FACT that Life does not originate from nonlife. Spontaneous Generation as it is called has been dis-proven sence the 19th Century by Louis Pasteur. You learn this in High School so I suspect that you didn't go.
There is NO proof that life came from nonlife. Your argument concerning that is invalid.
MonfangHowlett 2 months ago
@MonfangHowlett Very well you're correct. I guess religion is the answer to the origin of life on earth. Allah created man and is the one true God, and Muhammad is his prophet as told in the holy Qu'ran.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 I never pointed towards any religious ideas, but if you choose to believe that so easily, then so be it. As long as the science is clear.
Btw, weren't you in one of his videos?
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett Just kidding I'm not a Muslim. I just like to point out how if you're trying to prove religion over science, that there are other religions out there to show the futility of religious explanations. Pasteurization does nothing to prove life can't form without a God. It took billions of years for self replicating proteins and amino acids to form. Those processes are not threat to your canned goods.
And yes he did read one of my comments in one of his videos.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 I'm not proving anything over Science. I am only speaking on Science. Pasteur disproved Spontaneous Generation by boiling broth for 15 mins and trapping it in a swan neck flask. For one year, nothing grew in it. However, one day after he broke the neck of the flask, the broth was cloudy. Proving that life must have living source to grow and disproving Spontaneous Generation.
Him being religious is a moot point. He disproved that life can not come from nonlife.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett All I'm saying is that Pasteur disproved nothing because the forces that take place to create life take a bit more than a year to make. If Pasteur wanted his experiment to have a bit more merit he should have given the flask a few hundred million more years.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 By your same logic, you can not prove abiogenesis or spontaneous generation because no one has been around for several million years. You are operating on faith rather than scientific fact. As such, this argument is null because we are moving into philosophy rather than science. When you want to argue facts, let me know.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett There is other evidence. Just as we don't have to see a fish grow legs we still have plenty of evidence for evolution. You're the one needing a surgical cranial removal from the rectum. Are you some kind of troll, cause I doubt you're this stupid.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 Now you are talking about Evolution. Are we talking about Evolution, which no scientist disagrees with or Abiogenesis, which is a weak theory with no basis in fact? And why are you getting hostile? I never once mentioned anything negative about you aside from cracking a book of science up side your head about abiogenesis. Now I state again. When you want to talk about facts, let me know.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett Facts? What facts? All you've given me is the fact that a pasteurized container won't spring forth new life within a year. If you've got more wonderful funderful facts, then give them to me.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 The fact is reliant.. It kills off the living things in it before hand. He had boiled it so that there wasn't something alive in it before hand that would contaminate the test thus proving that nonlife can not generate life. There has been no test that proves that life can be generated from nonlife. There is only speculation and assumptions. No one has ever done a test that generated life from nonlife. You must accept this because it is fact.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett And I told you that Pasteur's experiment merely proved that life won't form within a year. Life took MILLIONS of years to form, MILLIONS MILLIONS MILLIONS! Did I finally reach you? MILLIONS!!! I'm aware no test has shown it to happen, but that's because it takes MILLIONS of years to accomplish and the science isn't even 150 years old yet. It takes MILLIONS years for those proteins to form RNA and DNA. MILLIONS OF YEARS.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 What strange notion is that? Science is only 150 years old? Science is defined as: "The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural..." The moment that man first questioned something, science existed. It didn't start in the 1800's. But we have agreed that because it can not be tested, it is in the realm of philosophy, not science. Because it can not be proven, it requires faith like religion.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett I've been reading more into this. Turns out all Pasteur did was disprove a thousands year old theory of Spontaneous Generation. Ambiogenesis does have proven support from a lab. In the Urey–Miller experiment amino acids were created in a lab.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 No you didn't! You brought out the Urey-Miller card! Ready for this? 1: The amino acids did not form into living compounds. 2: The amino acids contained >40% toxic amino acids that would have prevented life. 3: They failed to synthesize all of the required amino acids. 4: The test is now invalid because the theory of how the earth was billions of years ago has changed.
Do you still want to do this? I can go all day.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett You're right. Stupid science never did shit for us. All it did was multiply our life span, our crop yields, speed of travel, telecommunications. Blah. Fuck science.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 What are you talking about? We are talking about facts here. Man up and take that you are beat. Then learn from it and expand your mind to new ideas. Accept the facts and then move forward.
I support science mainly because scripture says we should be scientists as well as theological. (Book of Job). And I used science to bring forth the facts to you.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett Okay so you've now confirmed you are a Christian. So what makes your religion true and not the others? Also why are prophets for the Judeo Christian God only from one part of the world? Why did your God not reveal himself to people world wide? If he is all powerful and concerned about whether or not he gets worshiped why did he allow the rest of the world to ignorantly worship other gods?
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 WHOA! What is with the topic change? We are debating science, not religion or philosophy. Get back on topic or admit your defeat. I refuse to change it without you admitting that the facts are against abiogenesis.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett because you're obviously trying to get me to believe in your God and those are some of the biggest issues I have against your God.
Plus there is not a single REAL scientist who believes in a young Earth. Don't tell me you swallow Hovind's rubbish?
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 I have done no such thing. I presented facts. You brought up religion for a reason I don't understand.
And how do you define a 'real' scientist? And who is Hovind?
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett I'm done with your nonsense. I win.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 Why are you so angry, Cena? What made you bare such anger towards people who have done you no ill? Why do you run from facts?
If you would open up, there are people who can help you before it's too late, my friend. They are all around you, you just need to let them in.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 Actually carbon dating of diamonds, and the salinity of he ocean are two things that go against mainstream earth dating. The other weird thing is 10,000 years ago we were supposed to be cavemen and yet there are pyramids and cities at the bottom of the ocean that has been below sea level for 35,000 years and who know how much longer they were around before the sea rose to that level. Nothing makes sense to science anymore. All bets are off.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk Yes, you can find websites on the internet that make those claims...
Cenamark2 1 month ago
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weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 sure dismiss science buddy, you sound like a religious zealot.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk I'm not dismissing science. You're promoting crazy pseudo science.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 I promote the truth, you call it crazy pseudo science because it is inconvenient for your crazy pseudo science that is 'mainstream' and political in nature. Many top scientists in the world call mainstream theory bankrupt, they have evidence for this. You see there is a little thing called agenda, and that drives and funds much of the 'science' and 'facts' that are indoctrinated in many colleges and newsletters. How do you explain life replication before DNA existed?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk So you believe there's a conspiracy where 99% of the world's scientists conspire to falsify findings to disprove God? I don't think science has a full explanation for the origin of life, but at least science knows its limitations and works to overcome them. Its rather hard to solve a mystery that started billions of years ago.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 99%, DON'T believe that, much much less, probably in reality less than 50% but in the politically motivation fund driven machine, silence gets you grants. Best not to mention personal opinions and keep the grants coming and feed the kids. Science doesn't know it's limitations because it cannot explain, that is the paradox of it, why does a black hose defy the laws of physics? Nobody knows. In reality we can't even explain why gravity happens, only describe/predict it.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 Hey if you really want to hear some good evidence I will post it to your page, let me know, I won't do it unless you ask, respectfully.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett abiogenesis is impossible, RNA cannot self replicate, only synthetic which has never been in nature, DNA is required and the encoded info/instructions must be present first, life on earth is mathematically impossible without influence/guidance. DNA code contains abstract ideas that are not yet realized, now how do you get an abstract idea, a thought or concept, from nothing? Atheism is scientifically impossible, and silly in the eyes of true science.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett and what do you mean the theory on how the earth was billions of years old has changed? No it hasn't.
Plus they showed that the Amino acids could form.. As I said earlier MILLIONS OF YEARS are required. Don't tell me you think the world is Thousands of years old.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 The theory is constantly changing. I'm keeping up with it. What you learned in public schools is no longer accepted fact. And yes they did. However, I state again that they did not prove Abiogenesis because they did not form into life nor could they ever form into life.
And yes, I am a Young Earth believer as is most of the world. The facts lead to that conclusion. If you are going to bring up the millions of years thing as a defense, then you want to debate philosophy, not science.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett Pasteur disproved Spontaneous Generation. Not Ambiogenesis.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
@Cenamark2 Abiogenesis is defined as: "a hypothetical organic phenomenon by which living organisms are created from nonliving matter." Spontaneous Generation is defined as: "The supposed production of living organisms from nonliving matter."
They are the same.
MonfangHowlett 1 month ago
@MonfangHowlett There are differences. Do some research.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
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@Cenamark2 " It passes on because everybody has a little bit of gayness in them. Sexuality is more complicated than just gay/straight. Plenty of people who identify themselves as gay have had children"
??? So let me get this right, in order for the "gayness" to be pass on to the next generation, gay couples, will have stop the "gayness" to perform a heterosexual act? (correct)... If they weren't rape (assuming) doesn't that mean it's a choice?! How is this possible?! given "born this way"!
Xeonxtreme 1 month ago
@Captain077 Do you use sex exclusively for procreation? Nature doesn't use birth control or masturbate, nature is about survival of the species.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
Good argument. Heterosexual parents have never abused children. Child abuse is exclusive to same sex couples.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 You...started off ALL WRONG by immediately throwing in the red herring of 'heteros do it too'. You do realise that by doing that you immediately and without question belittled the circumstance of that boy, DEHUMANISED him in favour of the 'rights' of the lesbian couple...get outta here...
reliableandrew 2 months ago
@reliableandrew Its terrible what's happened to that child, but molitov belittles the child's plight, by using the tragedy to back his homophobic agenda. You get outta here.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 You sound young...(judging by the way you copied me there)...but I said 'get outta here' out of pure frustration for you throwing in the red herring. I'm calmer now.
If you can get away from Molotov's supposedly 'homophobic agenda' just once... to see the bigger picture, that would benefit you...perhaps you don't realise that you're coming across as equally agenda driven.
reliableandrew 2 months ago
@reliableandrew I guess I am. I just naturally disagree with Molotov. But take this story aside and molotov would still be ranting and raving about how homosexuality is evil because some fictional character said so.
Cenamark2 2 months ago
@Cenamark2 You admit you ARE agenda driven then. Well, that means you are as equally culpable as Molotov...disagreeing with each other...his christian vs your atheist agenda...in the meantime, the boy is being used as a political tool by both of you.
Perhaps this boys plight could be considered outside of sexual or religious 'orientation'...however the LESBIAN parents don't see it that way.
reliableandrew 2 months ago
this is so disturbing to hear about! how could california let someone do this to a child!
gay people always say they were born that way and learn as a teen or young adult that they are different, so how can they justify trying to make a child gay on purpose!
im surprised no one has shot these people yet!
chuckclose1 2 months ago
I don't care how many wives someone has. I just want them to leave me alone and respect my rights.
shadowbankers 2 months ago
I'm not mormon, and I'm married to 1 woman. But the whole "1 man, 1 woman" american value is NOT BIBLICAL. No where in the bible can ANY pastor find a decree or scripture in the bible that says its a SIN to have more than 1 wife. David had many, and so did Solomon, and they were great heroes of the bible. I think Molotov Mitchel did a For The Record Episode on that.
RightWingExtremis100 2 months ago
@RightWingExtremis100 Ok "mormon" there are many Old Testament acts that were done that God allowed under the law, can you find me an example of what you are referring to for New Testament Christians that supports multiple marital partners?
YhwhKhaiMostHigh 2 months ago
@YhwhKhaiMostHigh 1 Timothy 3:2,:"A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;". Here Paul states that a requirement to be in church leadership is that he must have 1 wife. Now Paul would have elaborated if polygamy was a sin, but he does not. And if you condemn anyone who had more than 1 wife, you condemn almost ALL of the old testament heroes, including Moses. And I am a Messianic Jew, not a mormon as I said.
RightWingExtremis100 2 months ago
@YhwhKhaiMostHigh Besides, you need to watch this For The Record Episode called "Islam and Polygamy". Here, Molotov Mitchel explains the same thing that I just explained to you.
RightWingExtremis100 2 months ago
@YhwhKhaiMostHigh /watch?v=Xx1ZmIiN0y0
RightWingExtremis100 2 months ago
This 'thing' is tolerated but prayers in school is not. The liberal society is so full of shit, anything that they see "fit" is right and anyone who disagrees is crucified with their smartass BS.
762459 2 months ago
I don't believe as you do, but if what you are saying is honest and correct then the women in this story need to suffer the consequences of their actions. Some form of felonious child endangerment needs to be charged against them. The idea that children are not protected from someone abusing them in this faction should be abhorrent to our society.
MatthewBMany 2 months ago
Too bad I'm not intimated by their garbage and played out name-calling. The "hater", "bigot", "homophobe" cards are rather old and only used as a silencing technique by gays and their pathetic activists. Going back and forth with them is useless because they are void of common sense. All of their arguments are moot and emotionally charged. Yes, we warned of the slippery slope, but America coward under their whining and legislated perversion.
Let the hateful replies begin :)
YhwhKhaiMostHigh 2 months ago
@YhwhKhaiMostHigh I agree with his point that no one should be allowed to get away with this, and it's probably easier for them to do so since they're homosexual because no one wants to "offend" them. That is wrong. However, you don't have to be a homosexual to be fucked up and hurt children. Labeling a whole community for what a few do isn't right either. Remember that many used to think interracial marriage was wrong too.
Riflemanm16a2 2 months ago
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@Riflemanm16a2 "Remember that many used to think interracial marriage was wrong too." Yeah, I hear ya, but that's like comparing apples with oranges. One is about race and the other about behavior. I'm against legislation that gives folks special rights because of their behavior - deadly behavior I might add. There's nothing deadly about interracial marriages.
"However, you don't have to be a homosexual to be fucked up and hurt children."
So true!
YhwhKhaiMostHigh 2 months ago
God Damn Communist. All the radical repubs support Israel but not supporting to stand up against this abomination act
joegully 2 months ago