This nigga Rick Ross is a rapper not a drug dealer but a rapper. The games boundary lines are so blurred now, because back in the day the there was confusion about who the rappers were and who the drug dealers were. You knew what lane you were in and you stayed in that lane espicially for the rappers.
every body know miami get down, but what da fuc is dis dumb ass nigga provin? nuttin except the fact he is a cocaine groupie. alot of these cats is still tryin to appeal.
lol yu gotta go to south america to see the real cocaine kingpins but yah most of dem bois dat get caught dey juss distributers das really it n shout out to ross showin ppl how the real miami is
real life shit... lil haiti 47 vulture mia yayo thats the 80s,90s....wait to see are shit...ak,sk,A-R,9,BIG 40s,Big 357,38,45,380,and 9 inch dick for other side...305 stand the fuck up lil haiti vulture
and we dont even gotta talk about coke cuz cubans still bring coke but wait who sends all the haze to new york? why is washington heights known as home of the haze yall better do research and just google "cuban grow houses" lol stop living pipe dreams and realize who be about it fo real and dont even be out there runin they mouth
were not talking bout nyckle and dymers and street crews here dickhead stop watching them hip hop dvds we talking bout cartels and metric tons fuck out of here with that shit
that's the thing though, these were not "major dudes".They were major on the street level and hood legends, but nothing in the scheme of things.One level up from who you cop from. the "cocaine cowboys" would shit on them and wipe their ass with their money.Cocaine cowboys was not a street dvd, but a real documentary that got bootlegged crazy.After the cocaine cowboy movie, there's no point in putting out something like this.The only ones who care are boys in the hood who already know all this
and white boys who love the life style.After making cocaine cowboys there's no point in making this.and who care who put who on? i told you it's not about race, it's about status. if this was cubans, i'd be saying the same shit.
The street documentary thing was pioneered by blacks like Troy Reed (Street Stars Ent). He came out with "Paid in Full" long before Cocaine Cowboys. So, if Rick Ross wants to tell the story of the major guys he grew up hearing about, then what about it! Pitbull got put on in the music biz, by blacks like TVT Records' Bryan Leach and Lil Jon. So, why don't all you Cuban cats bitching about Ross' DVD, write Pitbull and ask him to do a DVD highlighting the top 10 Cuban kingpins in Miami history.
yo beat kid theres like a million cuban kingpins in the history of miami. you got falcon,magluta,san pedro,eduardo manzano,remache, the real diaz brothers,el enano,cano, buddy you dont even wanna go there these are all dudes that made hundreds of millions each. san pedro put cable in the dade county main jail because he was tired of wacthing regular channels!!!! son cubans is nuttin but some ballers!!! not to even mention the ones that are doin it huge now!!!
Your missing the point again! I never said there weren't more Cuban kingpins in Miami. The drug game is all about the "connection". If you are dealing with one of the main guys for a cartel in the U.S, then you should be making untold millions. Many of the dudes in this video were clients of Cuban wholesalers, but what if they were plugged in directly. If a guy like Boobie had the pipeline for endless coke for rockbottom prices on credit, you don't think he would have made over 100 million too.
boobie in o way shape or form ever amounted too 100 million.the news say he was making 85 million a year.those are estimated figures.when boobies house was raided they found 185,000 dollars.thats not money. the dea,irs and fbi seized 2.1 billion in cash and real estate from falcon
man, street niggas don't invest money into a whole lot of real estate nor do they put their shit in the bank to allow the government to seize it. some slip up but like most of the white guys from cocaine cowboys still living live lavishly from the money they barried in the ground
IRS will get suspicious if any colored man deposits 50k even once - you doing it every week with no job - you could be GW Bush's son and the IRS is going to step to you. Period
in the 80's the Colombians that were shipping it over were also sending other Colombians over to sell it for them.they werent trying to let anybody else get rich off their shit,which is why they went to war with the Cubans.if they got it from Cubans like u say,then it already went through the colombians,which means less profit.IF they could get it directly,which is unlikely, especially for black dudes,and were allowed to sell it they would have to be taxed out the ass.
yo the point is the true kingpins were the Colombians and Cubans in the eighties.All these dudes are just the ones that operated at the street level.This movie was only made in response to "Cocaine Cowboys" because blacks got jealous. Also, i'm Cuban and from Miami and I got madd black homeboys. There's no more racism here than anywhere else between any other ethnicities.
Your in fuckin denial B! You sound like white people, when they act like racism is some figment of black people's imagination. Futhermore, racism amongst latinos is why Columbians chose to primarily deal with Cubans over blacks for that reason. Many latinos think they're better than blacks. There was a 5 part series in the Miami Herald dealing with anti-black bias in Latin culture. Google "Miami Herald" "Afro-Latin Americans" to read it. Maybe you should, since you're clearly in denial too.
Another thing, you and this jackass dadegoons talking about blacks being jealous. Well since Cuba is this great country, why are you here? Another thing, Cocaine Cowboys Pt.2 is going to primarily deal with Charles Cosby, who was a black man, who became Griselda Blanco's main lieutenant and lover, while she was incarcerated. He ran her business just as good as any Cuban or Columbian, all he needed was the chance, most blacks never receive.
exactly good point sake. very smart response. the cubans were bringin in metric tons of the white girl at a time. thesew dudes on this video were just lower street level dealers that sold rocks and heroin. there are very few big time blakc kingpings. you got charles cosby,the real rick ross, rayful edmonds,nicky banres and frank lucas
Dude, I am black man, proud and militant, so don't hand me that "you must be white shit"! Cubans aren't exactly so chummy with blacks in Miami anyway, so get your mind right. From what I've heard, they treat us like 2nd class citizens down there and think they're superior for the most part. Not all, but many. Blacks in Cuba deal with the same B.S, especially pre-Castro. Some Cubans walk around thinking they're white Republicans. Cuban women with bleached hair and color contacts on South Beach.
beat kid you are a true dick head. google augusto falcone and youll see that willy falcon and salvador magluta ammased over 2 billion dollars financially.jon roberts made some dough but he was nuttin more than a mule.willy and sal have incredible political ties from saudi arabie to panama. the man responsible for laundering all of their money (miguel endara) is now the current president of panama.they even have ties to a former saudi arabian prince.checks ur facts learn to use google!!!
No, juanguerra you're a true dickhead. I read a 12 pg article in the Miami New Times on Falcon/Malguta, that broke down everything. In the news footage from this M.I Yayo clip, the newscaster says they were accused of moving 75 tons and trafficking in 2 billion dollars of the "white stuff". They never said they made 2 billion. I will admit upon reading that article, they were bigger than Roberts in the coke game. All "smugglers" are glorified mules, Falcon & Malguta were just the biggest ones.
falcon and magluta never muled thats where youre wrong they had open shops in many south american countries where they self financed laboratories.falcon and magluta are the biggest period thats why theyre number one in this video!!!!
Falcon/Malguta's main lieutenant Augusto Jay even stated the 2.1 billion dollar figure from the U.S gov't was bullshit. So you need to use Google! Roberts used Noriega's banks too via Escobar's hookup. So that Endara/Panama thing is irrelevant. QUOTING Jay: "They're crazy. 2.1 billion! That's just mad. That's just completely mad. The bigger the case, the bigger the glory for whoever is behind it. I'm not saying that no wrongs have been committed, I'm just saying they've been exaggerated".
by the way what the article on jay failes to mention is that in 2001 he became a federal informant because he got stabbed up in lewisburg by a falcon/magluta soldier.hes now in some secret location with a new identity because he told!!! so never ever take the word of a snitch.
jon roberts was quoted in cocaine cowboys that he made a little over 50 million in his prime. thats no where near the 2 billion that willy falcon ammased.hustleoso jon roberts was an overpaid mule. willy has ties to miguel endara which is the current president of panama. get your facts straight son.
In the need to prove the Cubans man's superiority (you remind me of white guys in the UFC/MMA threads), you distorted the facts. The news footage said Falcone was responsible for "bringing in" 2 billion dollars in cocaine, not worth 2 billion personally. In Cocaine Cowboys, the DEA charged Jon Roberts with trafficking 2 billion dollars worth of cocaine. He made around 50 mill for self. Maybe Falcone made more, but Griselda Blanco was the only cocaine billionaire living in the U.S. Fact check!!!
Mantillo, whether you agree or not, Cubans had an advantage in the coke game, due to their Latin heritage and Spanish speaking ties. Columbian or Mexican cartel, both still speak Espanol! African-Americans had a harder come-up is all I'm saying! So, the people talking about how these guys weren't real kingpins and couldn't fuck with Castor Gonzalez or Willie Falcon need to shut up for that very reason.
I'm not glorifying the game, but there is a truth to it's history and racial politics.
my hole point of this thread is this bum ass dudes shouldnt be next to willy falcon and them ...and cubans stil doing it dont u see all of them grow houses all over florida nigga!! 10 thousand a head for each cuban you bring in them fast boats!! my peoples hustle for real!!
Listen, the cocaine game is primarily a Latin man's game for the most part. African-Americans had more success establishing themselves in the heroin game, since the Italians and French were still seen as outsiders by the Turks and South Asians. Black men like Sgt.Ike Atkinson (Frank Lucas' supplier), had extensive networks on par with the Italian mafia.
im hearing all these coke experts some of you motherfukers wasnt even born when this shit happen talking about a bitch slpping a nigga that shit funny as hell mother fuckers fear us whe murder everything lol lol but dead ass
Was Willie Falcone handling more weight than that whiteguy Jon Roberts? I doubt it. Columbians only dealt with blacks in Cali, due to the crack epidemic taking hold in black neighborhoods and the pre-existing gang network in place for distribution. The Latino gangs weren't as organized & unified in the 80's, as they are today.
get of them pipe dreams they dealt straight with the mexicans thats when the mexicans stepped in the game ..real kingpins from miami two cubans helped fund the tijuana cartel ..and the juarez cartel with the "lord of the skies" who i bet yo ass dont know who it is that robert craka aint handled shit get of them movie pipe dreams i dont respec them niggas they snitches ..dont give me that black this black that because plenty of black cuban big boys out there
I'm talking about non-Spanish speaking African Americans. Furthermore, don't preach to the choir, because most black Latinos don't embrace being black, no matter how dark they are. Some dark skinned Latinos will curse you out if you call them "black". So go preach to them homie. Don't beat me over the head with the bullshit.
Fact: Jon Roberts handled around 2 billion in cocaine during his career like Falcon. Whether you like him or he's a snitch is not the topic at hand.
I'm talking about non-Spanish speaking African Americans. Furthermore, don't preach to the choir, because most black Latinos don't embrace being black, no matter how dark they are. Some dark skinned Latinos will curse you out if you call them "black". So go preach to them homie. Don't beat me over the head with the bullshit.
Fact: Jon Roberts handled around 2 billion in cocaine during his career like Falcon. Whether you like him or he's a snitch is not the topic at hand.
This discussion is utter nonsense. So what, if Willie Falcone sold more weight. He had the "direct connect", he should have. Columbians wouldn't trust Blacks to smuggle like Cubans or Whites, so we were out of the loop. These brothas were still bringing in millions annually anyway via street distribution. I'm not glorifying the game, but it's a reality for poor blacks and latinos who want to live the American dream and not struggle like their parents did.
orliss are you smoking crack or just coming out the house niggas took yall coke and still do yall are muts black peoples offsprings if there never been blacks you would not exist get a history book man please
yo hustle you soundin real dumb.... willy and sal established their connection to colombia thru a girlfriends brother that was released from prison in '73. theyve never even been to colombia. and for the record cuba was already around waaaaaaaay before the spanish took slaves over there.
your comment about him putting his self against your people get back on the internet man these people hes talking about had a direct conect overseas to the poppy fields you dont know what you talking about what do you mean your people i never seen you before but if your from cuba you got black in you sorry dog but we been on this earth
i know cubans got black in them that dont mean cubans think the same way african americans do shit hatians and jamaicans dont get along ...black cubans dont even wanna act like african american because we come from the hood already we dont need to prove nothing ..u catch most black cubans dressed nice prepped up on some european tip looking like real money makers
im assuming that castor is suppose to be pitbull i know him by pitbull and he was no big drug dealer i know what you talking about and i never read about him in a magazine im from the streets mut liberty city overtown the real streets of miami
you from where americans claim to be is the ghetto and glorify that bullshit i already come from the ghetto and i dont want to neither like the ghetto thats the american brainwashed away thats y i say this rappers be selling yall pipe dreams and yall fall to all this bullshit dont talk about my peoples and overtown getting moved out colombians cubans and russians buying up all that housing
mantila what ever yo name is first of all i dont really listen to rap and i was only saying that cuban is not a race and if yo skin is pale you are white since you like to play with computers go on the internet and look up the history of cuba or should i say cubanascan the original name you will see when spaniards went there who are white people there were indians there then they brung back african slaves check it out for yo self
the real reason cubans were chosen over blacks in the 80's is bcuz the blacks had no structure. they were notorious jackboys. according to the dea,fbi,and the irs the falcon,magluta organization is the biggest theyve ever encountered. theyre still findin money in offshore accounts that trace back to them. i know the magluta family very well. i just finished serving 15,got released in 11/07
Hustleloso917, you're about the only "enlightened" cat on this thread. Mantilla305 and orliss remind me of the Mexicanos on the "Gangland" threads. Same "We're better than the blacks, bytching up for whitey" shit.
Brothas, fuck all this vide and conquer shit. The "fuck N.Y", "the South are bamas" B.S, is nothing but Willie Lynchism. Just like some Latin dudes feel they have to prove their superior to blacks 24/7, some Southern cats seem to have this same issue with NYC.
Another thing, Columbians made the most dough bottmline. They manufacture and import the coke, so there is no competition. Cubans where preferred over blacks, because they spoke Spanish, simple and plain. It has nothing to do with Cubans being superior hustlers, so get over yourself. Some Black men with the direct connect made 9 figures just like Castor Gonzalez (see Freeway Rick Ross, Rayful Edmond III, Waterhead Bo or Frank Matthews). Very few Cubans, made the money these brothas made.
my dude aint nothing against blacks because at the end of the day we are black our selves and linked straight to afrika..now i got a problem with this rap kids living this dope dreams and listening to this bullshit rappers who never sold a damn thang
the only thang u know about castor is a magazine article they dont even call him castor ..my point is this rick ross dude playing his self putting my peoples next to any of them bums he need to get willy falcons mouth out of his raps and alot of more shit they try to portray in them videos having dudes dressing like cubans in the push it to the limit and street money video and mothafuck the hood and keeping it hood we already come from the ghetto we trying to stay in brickell!!
While reading this thread, all I could do is put my head in my hands out of frustration. Some latinos seem to have this competition, superiority complex thing, when it comes to blacks. The bottomline is whitey run Miami. Most of the large businesses, banks and real estate holdings are owned by white owned entities. Just because you're the majority ethnic group doesn't mean you running shyt. The Cuban mayor still has to run to Governor Jeb Bush for money for his constituents and infrastructure.
white dont run no miami we run it we came here to do our thing not let whitey push us around and complain about being down..notice how alot of latinos can come to the u.s and go back to their countrys we cant we gotta soak it up and come with whatever we can fit in that raft because everything else fidel keeps..there is cubans with real dough that moved to mexico and founded cartels and helped build them like the dude who plugged the lord of the skies to pablo escobar was cuban .
Dem niggas in M.I.Yayo doing dat shit down there. Savannah had our turn wit dat type shit wit Ricky Jivens, but dem New Orleans niggas on some whole other shit though. The South mane, we run this shit. Aint nothing like it, aint gon be nothing dat come close to it. Quit Hating The South. R.I.P. Camoflauge, Conrad, Lil Tony, Metty, Murdock, Felix, and a whole lotta other niggas from Savannah,GA. C-Port.
i agree and by no means would i brag about dope its nothing to brag about we are killing our on people it just kills me when i see these people use the word nigga when most of these so call spanish have black in them
fuck a rap nigga fuck rap music bunch of pipe dream ass having niggas real millionaires aint even bumpin that shit...yall need to get off them rappers nuts and quit trying to live an mtv life lol ..cubans still runing shit from here to mexico with la federacion what you local niggas know about that broke ass bitches
cubans dont look up to no rappers@mr hustleloso matter of fact we dont even try to mimick rappers why u think pitbull be dressed all preppy? thats what real millionaires still bringin in half tons in fisherman boats dress like..keep watchin the news who stay on it with million dollar bust on medic aid clicnics and crop houses cubans nigga!!
like i told your dumb ass friend cuban is not a race cuba is a country and by the way i happen to know pitbull before he got on and he was not rich and was selling cocaine dumb ass i dont know what to call you because you dam sho aint no cuban you dont know what the fuck you is if your skin is pale you are a cracker if its brown you are mixed with indian and the same thing you just called me nigga was it learn your history before you talk shit
This whole talk about race and who is moving more wieght is bullshit. Fact of the matter is, KKK, Skinheads, Ayran Brotherhood, and about 65% of the white people who stay in Miami Shores, hate you and me because we black, and hate MANTILLA305 because he's hispanic. We need to stop arguring amongst ourselves and come together. Real talk.
dont get madd because i pulled your bitch card..and pitbull is a rich nigga from the gables who came in the peter pan days if i aint cuban then how the hell i got my hoods name on my screen name municipio mantilla ciudad habana come pinga hopped in that raft in 94 and aint looked back since and yes we got light cubans why is it that all you american people always worried and scared of crakas? lol my peoples is thriving making money wether light tan black they stil cubanos
This whole talk about race and who is moving more wieght is bullshit. Fact of the matter is, KKK, Skinheads, Ayran Brotherhood, and about 65% of the white people who stay in Miami Shores, hate me because I'm black, and hate you because your hispanic. We need to stop arguring amongst ourselves and come together. I know you heard about whats goin on in Cali. That shit cant happen down here cuz. Real talk.
lol@white people who speak spanish those might be cubans that you think are white look around what the mayor is ? fuck around and we going have a cuban governor lol and fuck that dirt ass jamaican weed we grow haze ,purple,and northern lights dont get yo feelings hurt u nickle and dyming ass niggas fake hustleloso
you need to learn your history cuban is not a race the original people of cuba was indians until white people from spain came there with slaves and with interacial mixing thats how you get different complexians of people from cuba black brown and white those people you speak of that run miami are white they just happen to be from cuba and speak spanish but there skin is pale spain is in europe dumb motherfuckers
the only reason spanish sold more dope not cubans is because cocaine comes from spanish countrys thats like saying jamaicans sell more weed dumb asses and cubans dont run miami white people who speak spanish do
hold up nigga and all dem rappers u named talks bout haitians and zoepound zombie boys uptown boys are haitian gangs itint ran by blacks if so name one afroamerican gang nniigggaaa
dey did put haitians in dis well acouple haitian americans in but miami aint a cuban city it also has panamians,bolivians,argetenians and colombain cartels.
get yo facts straight argentinians dont move no work,bolivians process not export,and panamanians export,colombians do got cartels,mexicans runing it though much love to my mexicanos!!
lol this supposed to be the kingpins? there is still cuban kingpins doing it big to this day just watch them news all of them crop houses making millions!lol@how one dude willy falcon made more money and brought in 75 tons way more then all of them lames on this video
mi yayo is cuban city built by cubans and colombians..shot out to the real cartels la federacion toda mi gente mexicana!! tijuana cartel was started with a cuban as well real famous too ..and all the other dope boys living in coral gables white people cant move cubans out of miami we run this shit fuck the hood
cubans run shit remember that willy falcon alone with sal magluta brought in more dope then any of this lames cant forget castor gonzales that nigga did it til 96 and they still found money on his walls millions niggas tons and tons..the lord of the skies amado carrillo fuentes who was introduced by a cuban to pablo escobar..
This nigga Rick Ross is a rapper not a drug dealer but a rapper. The games boundary lines are so blurred now, because back in the day the there was confusion about who the rappers were and who the drug dealers were. You knew what lane you were in and you stayed in that lane espicially for the rappers.
jnewabeach 2 years ago
This nigga is a bitch! Some of these niggaz are still seeking apeals, and he just fucked it up 4 them
Bossblack13 2 years ago
every body know miami get down, but what da fuc is dis dumb ass nigga provin? nuttin except the fact he is a cocaine groupie. alot of these cats is still tryin to appeal.
Beyourself206 2 years ago 2
Exactly A lot of these cats are not in the game and have kids, or they are on appeal. Rick Ross snitching without even knowing it. What a dumb ass
Hoochiemayne 2 years ago
lol yu gotta go to south america to see the real cocaine kingpins but yah most of dem bois dat get caught dey juss distributers das really it n shout out to ross showin ppl how the real miami is
datboiko15 2 years ago
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6377437 2 years ago
FUCKIN RICK ROSS USED TO BE A FUCKING COP, he was a fukin security guard
research that shit, what a fuckwit.
beefking69er 2 years ago
a security guard is far from a cop, rofl.
kursed420 2 years ago
the fat ass baby face fuckwit is still a douche bag, security guard is worse than a fukin cop, and the difference aint that big you filthy bitch
beefking69er 2 years ago
the fat ass baby face fuckwit is still a douche bag, security guard is worse than a fukin cop, and the difference aint that big you filthy bitch
beefking69er 2 years ago
the fat ass baby face fuckwit is still a douche bag, security guard is worse than a fukin cop, and the difference aint that big you filthy bitch
beefking69er 2 years ago
the niggas down here crazy
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00kd27 3 years ago
This is gonna be hot this with trilla the stores gone be floodin
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
somebody put the whole movie up here i need to see dis shit
beezo18 3 years ago 5
lol
chirulais123 3 years ago
yall sittin here argueing over whos race got what on lock yall aint moving weight so dont worry about it
untoldtruth380 3 years ago 3
Ronald Reagan was the reason think about it.
louishenna 3 years ago
real life shit... lil haiti 47 vulture mia yayo thats the 80s,90s....wait to see are shit...ak,sk,A-R,9,BIG 40s,Big 357,38,45,380,and 9 inch dick for other side...305 stand the fuck up lil haiti vulture
bigbigbird305 3 years ago
and we dont even gotta talk about coke cuz cubans still bring coke but wait who sends all the haze to new york? why is washington heights known as home of the haze yall better do research and just google "cuban grow houses" lol stop living pipe dreams and realize who be about it fo real and dont even be out there runin they mouth
MANTILLA305 3 years ago
Look up the Feurtado Brothers, I think these guys made more cake of any of those guys in this DVD put together.
KelvinMartin 3 years ago
were not talking bout nyckle and dymers and street crews here dickhead stop watching them hip hop dvds we talking bout cartels and metric tons fuck out of here with that shit
MANTILLA305 3 years ago
Feurtado were not nickle and dymers.of course no where near Falcon but stilll....
wapminnin 3 years ago
dont buy this shit dont buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!
muffinman2301 3 years ago
dont buy this shit its a waste of money and a piece of shit!!!!!!
muffinman2301 3 years ago
musica animadinha pra um bando de nada na vida,olha a kra desses caras,vc acha que eles se importam se morrem ou vivem??
guilherminhu 3 years ago
sal and falcon had 18 witnesses wacked and werent even convicted of one murder.
juanoguerra 3 years ago
dade county old goons bitches luv dis shit
3reopound 3 years ago
that's the thing though, these were not "major dudes".They were major on the street level and hood legends, but nothing in the scheme of things.One level up from who you cop from. the "cocaine cowboys" would shit on them and wipe their ass with their money.Cocaine cowboys was not a street dvd, but a real documentary that got bootlegged crazy.After the cocaine cowboy movie, there's no point in putting out something like this.The only ones who care are boys in the hood who already know all this
sakecity7 3 years ago
and white boys who love the life style.After making cocaine cowboys there's no point in making this.and who care who put who on? i told you it's not about race, it's about status. if this was cubans, i'd be saying the same shit.
sakecity7 3 years ago
The street documentary thing was pioneered by blacks like Troy Reed (Street Stars Ent). He came out with "Paid in Full" long before Cocaine Cowboys. So, if Rick Ross wants to tell the story of the major guys he grew up hearing about, then what about it! Pitbull got put on in the music biz, by blacks like TVT Records' Bryan Leach and Lil Jon. So, why don't all you Cuban cats bitching about Ross' DVD, write Pitbull and ask him to do a DVD highlighting the top 10 Cuban kingpins in Miami history.
beatkidjay 3 years ago
yo beat kid theres like a million cuban kingpins in the history of miami. you got falcon,magluta,san pedro,eduardo manzano,remache, the real diaz brothers,el enano,cano, buddy you dont even wanna go there these are all dudes that made hundreds of millions each. san pedro put cable in the dade county main jail because he was tired of wacthing regular channels!!!! son cubans is nuttin but some ballers!!! not to even mention the ones that are doin it huge now!!!
juanoguerra 3 years ago
Your missing the point again! I never said there weren't more Cuban kingpins in Miami. The drug game is all about the "connection". If you are dealing with one of the main guys for a cartel in the U.S, then you should be making untold millions. Many of the dudes in this video were clients of Cuban wholesalers, but what if they were plugged in directly. If a guy like Boobie had the pipeline for endless coke for rockbottom prices on credit, you don't think he would have made over 100 million too.
beatkidjay 3 years ago
boobie in o way shape or form ever amounted too 100 million.the news say he was making 85 million a year.those are estimated figures.when boobies house was raided they found 185,000 dollars.thats not money. the dea,irs and fbi seized 2.1 billion in cash and real estate from falcon
juanoguerra 3 years ago
man, street niggas don't invest money into a whole lot of real estate nor do they put their shit in the bank to allow the government to seize it. some slip up but like most of the white guys from cocaine cowboys still living live lavishly from the money they barried in the ground
CmacI9 3 years ago
they can't put it in the bank because the IRS will get suspicious if a black man with no job is depositing 50,000 a week into his account
nitrotiger1 3 years ago
IRS will get suspicious if any colored man deposits 50k even once - you doing it every week with no job - you could be GW Bush's son and the IRS is going to step to you. Period
WilliamGRyan 2 years ago 2
in the 80's the Colombians that were shipping it over were also sending other Colombians over to sell it for them.they werent trying to let anybody else get rich off their shit,which is why they went to war with the Cubans.if they got it from Cubans like u say,then it already went through the colombians,which means less profit.IF they could get it directly,which is unlikely, especially for black dudes,and were allowed to sell it they would have to be taxed out the ass.
sakecity7 3 years ago
diz niggas trippin diz is like a remake of da cocaine cowboys latinos run miami blacks just gettin jealous
dadegoons 3 years ago
yo the point is the true kingpins were the Colombians and Cubans in the eighties.All these dudes are just the ones that operated at the street level.This movie was only made in response to "Cocaine Cowboys" because blacks got jealous. Also, i'm Cuban and from Miami and I got madd black homeboys. There's no more racism here than anywhere else between any other ethnicities.
sakecity7 3 years ago
Your in fuckin denial B! You sound like white people, when they act like racism is some figment of black people's imagination. Futhermore, racism amongst latinos is why Columbians chose to primarily deal with Cubans over blacks for that reason. Many latinos think they're better than blacks. There was a 5 part series in the Miami Herald dealing with anti-black bias in Latin culture. Google "Miami Herald" "Afro-Latin Americans" to read it. Maybe you should, since you're clearly in denial too.
beatkidjay 3 years ago
Another thing, you and this jackass dadegoons talking about blacks being jealous. Well since Cuba is this great country, why are you here? Another thing, Cocaine Cowboys Pt.2 is going to primarily deal with Charles Cosby, who was a black man, who became Griselda Blanco's main lieutenant and lover, while she was incarcerated. He ran her business just as good as any Cuban or Columbian, all he needed was the chance, most blacks never receive.
beatkidjay 3 years ago
exactly good point sake. very smart response. the cubans were bringin in metric tons of the white girl at a time. thesew dudes on this video were just lower street level dealers that sold rocks and heroin. there are very few big time blakc kingpings. you got charles cosby,the real rick ross, rayful edmonds,nicky banres and frank lucas
juanoguerra 3 years ago
man imamoviedirector u gotta tell me when this shit comes out Ima get this right when it comes out.
IceyBrotha 4 years ago
this is already out since 25 march bausss ricky ross
EDisBAD 4 years ago
Fo Lyfe Ma Niggga Fo Lyfe
IceyBrotha 4 years ago
They shouldn't be glorifying this.
derekhftw 4 years ago
oh my god!!!!!! beatkidjay said that jon roberts sold more weight than augusto falcon. smh. wow. beatkid jay must be white
juanoguerra 4 years ago
Dude, I am black man, proud and militant, so don't hand me that "you must be white shit"! Cubans aren't exactly so chummy with blacks in Miami anyway, so get your mind right. From what I've heard, they treat us like 2nd class citizens down there and think they're superior for the most part. Not all, but many. Blacks in Cuba deal with the same B.S, especially pre-Castro. Some Cubans walk around thinking they're white Republicans. Cuban women with bleached hair and color contacts on South Beach.
beatkidjay 4 years ago
beat kid you are a true dick head. google augusto falcone and youll see that willy falcon and salvador magluta ammased over 2 billion dollars financially.jon roberts made some dough but he was nuttin more than a mule.willy and sal have incredible political ties from saudi arabie to panama. the man responsible for laundering all of their money (miguel endara) is now the current president of panama.they even have ties to a former saudi arabian prince.checks ur facts learn to use google!!!
juanoguerra 4 years ago
No, juanguerra you're a true dickhead. I read a 12 pg article in the Miami New Times on Falcon/Malguta, that broke down everything. In the news footage from this M.I Yayo clip, the newscaster says they were accused of moving 75 tons and trafficking in 2 billion dollars of the "white stuff". They never said they made 2 billion. I will admit upon reading that article, they were bigger than Roberts in the coke game. All "smugglers" are glorified mules, Falcon & Malguta were just the biggest ones.
beatkidjay 3 years ago
falcon and magluta never muled thats where youre wrong they had open shops in many south american countries where they self financed laboratories.falcon and magluta are the biggest period thats why theyre number one in this video!!!!
juanoguerra 3 years ago
Falcon/Malguta's main lieutenant Augusto Jay even stated the 2.1 billion dollar figure from the U.S gov't was bullshit. So you need to use Google! Roberts used Noriega's banks too via Escobar's hookup. So that Endara/Panama thing is irrelevant. QUOTING Jay: "They're crazy. 2.1 billion! That's just mad. That's just completely mad. The bigger the case, the bigger the glory for whoever is behind it. I'm not saying that no wrongs have been committed, I'm just saying they've been exaggerated".
beatkidjay 3 years ago
by the way what the article on jay failes to mention is that in 2001 he became a federal informant because he got stabbed up in lewisburg by a falcon/magluta soldier.hes now in some secret location with a new identity because he told!!! so never ever take the word of a snitch.
juanoguerra 3 years ago
by the way they were accused of smiggling 75 tons of the white stuff.after profit that totals to about 2.1 in cash
juanoguerra 3 years ago
yo son i bought the dvd and the nigga ross even said they were the biggest!!!
juanoguerra 3 years ago
yo man, where did you buy the dvd? i live in europe and i must have this dvd to, so could you please let me know where you bought it? thanks!
loekske89 3 years ago
jon roberts was quoted in cocaine cowboys that he made a little over 50 million in his prime. thats no where near the 2 billion that willy falcon ammased.hustleoso jon roberts was an overpaid mule. willy has ties to miguel endara which is the current president of panama. get your facts straight son.
juanoguerra 4 years ago
In the need to prove the Cubans man's superiority (you remind me of white guys in the UFC/MMA threads), you distorted the facts. The news footage said Falcone was responsible for "bringing in" 2 billion dollars in cocaine, not worth 2 billion personally. In Cocaine Cowboys, the DEA charged Jon Roberts with trafficking 2 billion dollars worth of cocaine. He made around 50 mill for self. Maybe Falcone made more, but Griselda Blanco was the only cocaine billionaire living in the U.S. Fact check!!!
beatkidjay 4 years ago
Mantillo, whether you agree or not, Cubans had an advantage in the coke game, due to their Latin heritage and Spanish speaking ties. Columbian or Mexican cartel, both still speak Espanol! African-Americans had a harder come-up is all I'm saying! So, the people talking about how these guys weren't real kingpins and couldn't fuck with Castor Gonzalez or Willie Falcon need to shut up for that very reason.
I'm not glorifying the game, but there is a truth to it's history and racial politics.
beatkidjay 4 years ago
my hole point of this thread is this bum ass dudes shouldnt be next to willy falcon and them ...and cubans stil doing it dont u see all of them grow houses all over florida nigga!! 10 thousand a head for each cuban you bring in them fast boats!! my peoples hustle for real!!
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
Listen, the cocaine game is primarily a Latin man's game for the most part. African-Americans had more success establishing themselves in the heroin game, since the Italians and French were still seen as outsiders by the Turks and South Asians. Black men like Sgt.Ike Atkinson (Frank Lucas' supplier), had extensive networks on par with the Italian mafia.
beatkidjay 4 years ago
im hearing all these coke experts some of you motherfukers wasnt even born when this shit happen talking about a bitch slpping a nigga that shit funny as hell mother fuckers fear us whe murder everything lol lol but dead ass
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
why the fuck you think they arested people from the port of miami you dont know what the fuck you talking about
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
you seem know alot now learn about yo history
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
and you glorify drug dealers you funny man and i never fell for anything
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
Was Willie Falcone handling more weight than that whiteguy Jon Roberts? I doubt it. Columbians only dealt with blacks in Cali, due to the crack epidemic taking hold in black neighborhoods and the pre-existing gang network in place for distribution. The Latino gangs weren't as organized & unified in the 80's, as they are today.
beatkidjay 4 years ago
get of them pipe dreams they dealt straight with the mexicans thats when the mexicans stepped in the game ..real kingpins from miami two cubans helped fund the tijuana cartel ..and the juarez cartel with the "lord of the skies" who i bet yo ass dont know who it is that robert craka aint handled shit get of them movie pipe dreams i dont respec them niggas they snitches ..dont give me that black this black that because plenty of black cuban big boys out there
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
I'm talking about non-Spanish speaking African Americans. Furthermore, don't preach to the choir, because most black Latinos don't embrace being black, no matter how dark they are. Some dark skinned Latinos will curse you out if you call them "black". So go preach to them homie. Don't beat me over the head with the bullshit.
Fact: Jon Roberts handled around 2 billion in cocaine during his career like Falcon. Whether you like him or he's a snitch is not the topic at hand.
beatkidjay 4 years ago
I'm talking about non-Spanish speaking African Americans. Furthermore, don't preach to the choir, because most black Latinos don't embrace being black, no matter how dark they are. Some dark skinned Latinos will curse you out if you call them "black". So go preach to them homie. Don't beat me over the head with the bullshit.
Fact: Jon Roberts handled around 2 billion in cocaine during his career like Falcon. Whether you like him or he's a snitch is not the topic at hand.
beatkidjay 4 years ago
This discussion is utter nonsense. So what, if Willie Falcone sold more weight. He had the "direct connect", he should have. Columbians wouldn't trust Blacks to smuggle like Cubans or Whites, so we were out of the loop. These brothas were still bringing in millions annually anyway via street distribution. I'm not glorifying the game, but it's a reality for poor blacks and latinos who want to live the American dream and not struggle like their parents did.
beatkidjay 4 years ago
listen juan what ever your name is i was talking about the boobie boys i dont know what the fuck you talking about
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
orliss are you smoking crack or just coming out the house niggas took yall coke and still do yall are muts black peoples offsprings if there never been blacks you would not exist get a history book man please
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
yo hustle you soundin real dumb.... willy and sal established their connection to colombia thru a girlfriends brother that was released from prison in '73. theyve never even been to colombia. and for the record cuba was already around waaaaaaaay before the spanish took slaves over there.
juanoguerra 4 years ago
you right white people from cubarun miami im sorry man is not a race take some history classes you sound like a dam fool
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
your comment about him putting his self against your people get back on the internet man these people hes talking about had a direct conect overseas to the poppy fields you dont know what you talking about what do you mean your people i never seen you before but if your from cuba you got black in you sorry dog but we been on this earth
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
i know cubans got black in them that dont mean cubans think the same way african americans do shit hatians and jamaicans dont get along ...black cubans dont even wanna act like african american because we come from the hood already we dont need to prove nothing ..u catch most black cubans dressed nice prepped up on some european tip looking like real money makers
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
im assuming that castor is suppose to be pitbull i know him by pitbull and he was no big drug dealer i know what you talking about and i never read about him in a magazine im from the streets mut liberty city overtown the real streets of miami
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
you from where americans claim to be is the ghetto and glorify that bullshit i already come from the ghetto and i dont want to neither like the ghetto thats the american brainwashed away thats y i say this rappers be selling yall pipe dreams and yall fall to all this bullshit dont talk about my peoples and overtown getting moved out colombians cubans and russians buying up all that housing
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
mantila what ever yo name is first of all i dont really listen to rap and i was only saying that cuban is not a race and if yo skin is pale you are white since you like to play with computers go on the internet and look up the history of cuba or should i say cubanascan the original name you will see when spaniards went there who are white people there were indians there then they brung back african slaves check it out for yo self
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
fuck the talk, when the dvd drop?
toyason 4 years ago
the real reason cubans were chosen over blacks in the 80's is bcuz the blacks had no structure. they were notorious jackboys. according to the dea,fbi,and the irs the falcon,magluta organization is the biggest theyve ever encountered. theyre still findin money in offshore accounts that trace back to them. i know the magluta family very well. i just finished serving 15,got released in 11/07
juanoguerra 4 years ago
Hustleloso917, you're about the only "enlightened" cat on this thread. Mantilla305 and orliss remind me of the Mexicanos on the "Gangland" threads. Same "We're better than the blacks, bytching up for whitey" shit.
Brothas, fuck all this vide and conquer shit. The "fuck N.Y", "the South are bamas" B.S, is nothing but Willie Lynchism. Just like some Latin dudes feel they have to prove their superior to blacks 24/7, some Southern cats seem to have this same issue with NYC.
beatkidjay 4 years ago
Another thing, Columbians made the most dough bottmline. They manufacture and import the coke, so there is no competition. Cubans where preferred over blacks, because they spoke Spanish, simple and plain. It has nothing to do with Cubans being superior hustlers, so get over yourself. Some Black men with the direct connect made 9 figures just like Castor Gonzalez (see Freeway Rick Ross, Rayful Edmond III, Waterhead Bo or Frank Matthews). Very few Cubans, made the money these brothas made.
beatkidjay 4 years ago
my dude aint nothing against blacks because at the end of the day we are black our selves and linked straight to afrika..now i got a problem with this rap kids living this dope dreams and listening to this bullshit rappers who never sold a damn thang
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
the only thang u know about castor is a magazine article they dont even call him castor ..my point is this rick ross dude playing his self putting my peoples next to any of them bums he need to get willy falcons mouth out of his raps and alot of more shit they try to portray in them videos having dudes dressing like cubans in the push it to the limit and street money video and mothafuck the hood and keeping it hood we already come from the ghetto we trying to stay in brickell!!
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
While reading this thread, all I could do is put my head in my hands out of frustration. Some latinos seem to have this competition, superiority complex thing, when it comes to blacks. The bottomline is whitey run Miami. Most of the large businesses, banks and real estate holdings are owned by white owned entities. Just because you're the majority ethnic group doesn't mean you running shyt. The Cuban mayor still has to run to Governor Jeb Bush for money for his constituents and infrastructure.
beatkidjay 4 years ago
white dont run no miami we run it we came here to do our thing not let whitey push us around and complain about being down..notice how alot of latinos can come to the u.s and go back to their countrys we cant we gotta soak it up and come with whatever we can fit in that raft because everything else fidel keeps..there is cubans with real dough that moved to mexico and founded cartels and helped build them like the dude who plugged the lord of the skies to pablo escobar was cuban .
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
shut dat shit up everybody tough over da net now a days
RealPimpin06 4 years ago
Dem niggas in M.I.Yayo doing dat shit down there. Savannah had our turn wit dat type shit wit Ricky Jivens, but dem New Orleans niggas on some whole other shit though. The South mane, we run this shit. Aint nothing like it, aint gon be nothing dat come close to it. Quit Hating The South. R.I.P. Camoflauge, Conrad, Lil Tony, Metty, Murdock, Felix, and a whole lotta other niggas from Savannah,GA. C-Port.
AfrikaBlack 4 years ago
Nigga just talk about where you from you dont rep m.i.yayo, no one hates the south. New York just holds its own mannn
sinnaht 4 years ago
i agree and by no means would i brag about dope its nothing to brag about we are killing our on people it just kills me when i see these people use the word nigga when most of these so call spanish have black in them
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hustleloso917 4 years ago
i rep dade county to the fullest .305 mi yayo !!!!hialeah !!
carlos786 4 years ago
fuck a rap nigga fuck rap music bunch of pipe dream ass having niggas real millionaires aint even bumpin that shit...yall need to get off them rappers nuts and quit trying to live an mtv life lol ..cubans still runing shit from here to mexico with la federacion what you local niggas know about that broke ass bitches
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
cubans dont look up to no rappers@mr hustleloso matter of fact we dont even try to mimick rappers why u think pitbull be dressed all preppy? thats what real millionaires still bringin in half tons in fisherman boats dress like..keep watchin the news who stay on it with million dollar bust on medic aid clicnics and crop houses cubans nigga!!
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
like i told your dumb ass friend cuban is not a race cuba is a country and by the way i happen to know pitbull before he got on and he was not rich and was selling cocaine dumb ass i dont know what to call you because you dam sho aint no cuban you dont know what the fuck you is if your skin is pale you are a cracker if its brown you are mixed with indian and the same thing you just called me nigga was it learn your history before you talk shit
hustleloso917 4 years ago
@hustleloso917
This whole talk about race and who is moving more wieght is bullshit. Fact of the matter is, KKK, Skinheads, Ayran Brotherhood, and about 65% of the white people who stay in Miami Shores, hate you and me because we black, and hate MANTILLA305 because he's hispanic. We need to stop arguring amongst ourselves and come together. Real talk.
Nawledge1 4 years ago
dont get madd because i pulled your bitch card..and pitbull is a rich nigga from the gables who came in the peter pan days if i aint cuban then how the hell i got my hoods name on my screen name municipio mantilla ciudad habana come pinga hopped in that raft in 94 and aint looked back since and yes we got light cubans why is it that all you american people always worried and scared of crakas? lol my peoples is thriving making money wether light tan black they stil cubanos
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
@MANTILLA305
This whole talk about race and who is moving more wieght is bullshit. Fact of the matter is, KKK, Skinheads, Ayran Brotherhood, and about 65% of the white people who stay in Miami Shores, hate me because I'm black, and hate you because your hispanic. We need to stop arguring amongst ourselves and come together. I know you heard about whats goin on in Cali. That shit cant happen down here cuz. Real talk.
Nawledge1 4 years ago
lol@white people who speak spanish those might be cubans that you think are white look around what the mayor is ? fuck around and we going have a cuban governor lol and fuck that dirt ass jamaican weed we grow haze ,purple,and northern lights dont get yo feelings hurt u nickle and dyming ass niggas fake hustleloso
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
you need to learn your history cuban is not a race the original people of cuba was indians until white people from spain came there with slaves and with interacial mixing thats how you get different complexians of people from cuba black brown and white those people you speak of that run miami are white they just happen to be from cuba and speak spanish but there skin is pale spain is in europe dumb motherfuckers
hustleloso917 4 years ago
you are a jopke lil kid
hustleloso917 4 years ago
the only reason spanish sold more dope not cubans is because cocaine comes from spanish countrys thats like saying jamaicans sell more weed dumb asses and cubans dont run miami white people who speak spanish do
hustleloso917 4 years ago
how cubans run something and they cant even stop one man castro he got them jumoing on make shift rafts running like bitches haha
hustleloso917 4 years ago
hold up nigga and all dem rappers u named talks bout haitians and zoepound zombie boys uptown boys are haitian gangs itint ran by blacks if so name one afroamerican gang nniigggaaa
bj243 4 years ago
diZ mov!3 faNna b baN9in
dadegoons 4 years ago
dey did put haitians in dis well acouple haitian americans in but miami aint a cuban city it also has panamians,bolivians,argetenians and colombain cartels.
bj243 4 years ago
get yo facts straight argentinians dont move no work,bolivians process not export,and panamanians export,colombians do got cartels,mexicans runing it though much love to my mexicanos!!
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
hold up what bout the haitians
bj243 4 years ago
lol this supposed to be the kingpins? there is still cuban kingpins doing it big to this day just watch them news all of them crop houses making millions!lol@how one dude willy falcon made more money and brought in 75 tons way more then all of them lames on this video
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
mi yayo is cuban city built by cubans and colombians..shot out to the real cartels la federacion toda mi gente mexicana!! tijuana cartel was started with a cuban as well real famous too ..and all the other dope boys living in coral gables white people cant move cubans out of miami we run this shit fuck the hood
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
cubans run shit remember that willy falcon alone with sal magluta brought in more dope then any of this lames cant forget castor gonzales that nigga did it til 96 and they still found money on his walls millions niggas tons and tons..the lord of the skies amado carrillo fuentes who was introduced by a cuban to pablo escobar..
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
Fuck Cubans
selfmademan305 4 years ago
fuck cocaine cowboys full of snitches specially rivi.. how dare niggas put willy falcon next to all this bum ass niggas ...
MANTILLA305 4 years ago
when dose this movie come out?????????????
gunotkidd 4 years ago
Feb..with Rick Ross new album Trilla
imamoviedirector 4 years ago
This is gonna be hot this with trilla the stores gone be floodin
LeTZGoHeaT 4 years ago
where could i get this
remust 4 years ago
WITH RICK ROSS ALBUM SEPT 25TH
imamoviedirector 4 years ago
Fucking hell!!! Me sell coke like this... How can you ever get out os this???
igormiguel 4 years ago