This stage was totally on point in the arcade version, with the insane difficulty, and since the arcade came months after TMNT 2, it made perfect sense to include Tokka & Rahzar, especially since Rocksteady & Bebop were assumed dead from the first arcade game.
The SNES version of this game is MUCH easier. The archers on the arcade version actually stay on screen. On SNES they just fired and ran off. Same with the bombers. Also the arcade puts alot more on screen at you at once, even on single player. If they made it so you lost life after using your special attack on arcade it would be way too hard.
This game wasn't as cheap as it is made look. For instance, in the SNES port if you use your special attack you lose 3 health bars, making it a very limited resource. When you are down to 3 or 2 life bars you can not use it anymore.
It's true that the moving water and rocking boat are present in the SNES version- a rare detail that the arcade version lacked. But that doesn't make up for the huge animation cuts Konami had to make. Ever notice how the Stone Warriors use that cheap charge move in the SNES to conceal the fact that their walk animation from the arcade was completely axed? That's just one example.
The other ship firing at you on the SNES version was a really cool and innovative touch, however.
the whole thing with Tokka and Rahzar is that they didnt appear in the 80's series (maybe they did, i javent seen every episode yet) and and and...theyre int he movie, and you barely see them
The SNES version of this level was firmly better! The music was more pirateish and Bebop and Rocksteady were a better boss. Not to mention the ship in the back ground shooting big cannonballs at you.
Also if you look closely in the background you can see the water moving and the ship rocking a bit. In this version you don't see too much background animation.
@mopbrothers Agreed, and theyre dressed like pirates too, theyre easily gonna be more fitted for this level as its more creative and fun especially at the end where they stab each other too death with the pirate swords, LOL!
Thx man. The arcade version is just a step down in my opinion. The narrarors voice also sucks. "Skull and Crossboowns." sounds like he's talking to 4 year olds.
@cougarfighting The reason they've put Rahzar and Tokka in this level is that you've already fought those 2 (Bebop and Rocksteady) in the first game. While in all the previous NES games (TMNT 1, TMNT 2: Arcade Game and TMNT 3: Manhattan project) you never got to fight them both at once.
As we can see, the arcade versions of the turtle games were not over-repeating.
SNES version ruled. I remember the best score I had in that was 1001. You had to kill about every foot soldier buy either throwing at the screen or slamming them into the ground. All in all good times.
Um, who's in this video? You know why? Because, this is NOT the SNES version, it's the Arcade Game, and I was comparing the two Arcade games, and, the combo round with Rocksteady and Bebop from the first game was more difficult...
In the SNES version you fight Rocksteady and Bebop here (dressed as pirates!) and you fight Tokka and Rahzar on level 4, The Technodrome. Then you fight Shredder who sends you back in time. SNES version makes more sense because inside the Technodrome, Shredder would have the means to send you back in time. I really hope the XBLA/PSN remake is the SNES version
why is tokka and rahzar in this level is don't make sense it should be Bebop & Rocksteady like in the snes version but the should have kept the rain in
The SNES version is not better. It doesn't have all the cool voices in the arcade version, it doesn't have Cement Man, and worst of all, it doesn't have a four player option.
No, he's not. Slash sucks. They already have two other evil turtles in this game. They don't need a third. Slash is just annoying to fight. He keeps on blocking your attacks. Cement Man is much funner to fight. The way he says "Cement Man Rules!" is awesome.
Alright, then. I didn't realise I was trying to change your opinion instead just listening to you, so let's just keep what we like and end this. No need for an argument here.
Also, Slash is too serious for an evil turtle, they should have had a Triceraton instead of him in the SNES version of Turtles in Time, that would have been a very appropriate bad guy for the dinosaur stage.
Tokka and Rahzar have no lines in this one, but in the SNES version, they have the only real lines they said in the movie. Tokka: Master say have fun. Rahzar: Fun.
In the movie, The TNMT managed to create a type of drug that could turn Tokka and Rahzar back to their original forms which are the Alligator Snapping Turtle and Wolf respectively...
I was disappointed to find that change in the SNES version, along with several others. There wasn't any rain either. It looked like Konami tried giving it a less serious look.
The arcade version I played featured Rat King, Slash, and Beebop/Rocksteady.
RBEO22 1 month ago
@RBEO22 as well as a ship in the background that fired at you.
RBEO22 1 month ago
Fin qui ci arrivavo ma poi non riuscivo ad andare avanti!
soldatodiventura 2 months ago
Mikey wins......Babality
jeremiahkotsos 6 months ago
snes version is better
nintendo917 7 months ago
This stage was totally on point in the arcade version, with the insane difficulty, and since the arcade came months after TMNT 2, it made perfect sense to include Tokka & Rahzar, especially since Rocksteady & Bebop were assumed dead from the first arcade game.
axelpayne69 7 months ago
@axelpayne69
when where bebop and rocksteady considered dead?
kisser83 7 months ago
@kisser83, well, they were both taken out from the first TMNT arcade, and I guess dead is too much of a stretch, maybe more like benched or removed.
axelpayne69 7 months ago
I love the piarate ship because toka and razor are in it! from the movie!!! so many enemies from so many things are in this!!!
shellnmize 1 year ago
The SNES version of this game is MUCH easier. The archers on the arcade version actually stay on screen. On SNES they just fired and ran off. Same with the bombers. Also the arcade puts alot more on screen at you at once, even on single player. If they made it so you lost life after using your special attack on arcade it would be way too hard.
Joel122582 1 year ago
well
snes best music best colors and 1 more stage for now
arcade more move for the turtle more thing in the stages more enemies
Butters644 1 year ago
This game wasn't as cheap as it is made look. For instance, in the SNES port if you use your special attack you lose 3 health bars, making it a very limited resource. When you are down to 3 or 2 life bars you can not use it anymore.
cnh2132 1 year ago
It's true that the moving water and rocking boat are present in the SNES version- a rare detail that the arcade version lacked. But that doesn't make up for the huge animation cuts Konami had to make. Ever notice how the Stone Warriors use that cheap charge move in the SNES to conceal the fact that their walk animation from the arcade was completely axed? That's just one example.
The other ship firing at you on the SNES version was a really cool and innovative touch, however.
jaymum23 2 years ago
This stage is MUCH longer in Reshelled, and the planks are easier to see. Of course, the planks are more numerous, so they are harder to avoid.
ditawakeman 2 years ago
I HATED those god damned planks while playing through the SNES version! But still one of my all time fav old school games.
Anyone remember "Lester the Unlikely"?
dawgman09 2 years ago
the whole thing with Tokka and Rahzar is that they didnt appear in the 80's series (maybe they did, i javent seen every episode yet) and and and...theyre int he movie, and you barely see them
RaphsGirlTMNT 2 years ago
@RaphsGirlTMNT
They apparently appeared in an episode from Season 6 called Dirk Savage: Mutant Hunter. I'm rediscovering the old series, myself.
DavidTRichard 1 year ago
I want this game...i like retro arcade and TMNT...now, im pausing it and telling my parents that this is my christmas present
RaphsGirlTMNT 2 years ago
The SNES version of this level was firmly better! The music was more pirateish and Bebop and Rocksteady were a better boss. Not to mention the ship in the back ground shooting big cannonballs at you.
HypercatZ 2 years ago 4
Also if you look closely in the background you can see the water moving and the ship rocking a bit. In this version you don't see too much background animation.
Theshark15z 2 years ago
Bebop and Rocksteady who I consider dumb and dumber. Fun to fight and easy to deal with.
MegamanNG 2 years ago 2
I totally agree with you man! Rocksteady and Bebop looked a 1000 times cooler. The music is also better in the SNES version.
mopbrothers 2 years ago
@mopbrothers Agreed, and theyre dressed like pirates too, theyre easily gonna be more fitted for this level as its more creative and fun especially at the end where they stab each other too death with the pirate swords, LOL!
cougarfighting 2 years ago
Thx man. The arcade version is just a step down in my opinion. The narrarors voice also sucks. "Skull and Crossboowns." sounds like he's talking to 4 year olds.
mopbrothers 2 years ago
@cougarfighting The reason they've put Rahzar and Tokka in this level is that you've already fought those 2 (Bebop and Rocksteady) in the first game. While in all the previous NES games (TMNT 1, TMNT 2: Arcade Game and TMNT 3: Manhattan project) you never got to fight them both at once.
As we can see, the arcade versions of the turtle games were not over-repeating.
cnh2132 1 year ago
Lol. I just remember the horrible sound effects. :D
Lol. My nose! What nose? Turtles don't have noses!
I don't remember the Right Said Fred pose for the health refills. Oh well, makes me want to find this game and replay it.
astrangeone 2 years ago
SNES is vastly superior. How come in this version when you hit an enemy it sounds like a bubble popping?
nightwatchrules 2 years ago 2
This is why the "Re-Shelled" version will also suck.
oo1o11oa 2 years ago
SNES version ruled. I remember the best score I had in that was 1001. You had to kill about every foot soldier buy either throwing at the screen or slamming them into the ground. All in all good times.
CardboardWarlord 2 years ago 2
were you playing on the hardest difficulty? i played the game last night and got over 1200 without really trying
33LB 2 years ago
yeah it could have been around what you got...it was over ten years ago.. I hated fighting Slash.
CardboardWarlord 2 years ago
Pirate Bebop and Rocksteady >>>>>> Tokka and Rhazar.
Pumpie 2 years ago 4
I want tokkar gifs
nachodc 2 years ago
They're such pussies in the combo-boss round, by comparison to TMNT: The Arcade Game, where it's Rocksteady and Bebop...
NWpowerhouse85 2 years ago
SNES is Rocksteady and Bebop
hotdiddykong2 2 years ago
Um, who's in this video? You know why? Because, this is NOT the SNES version, it's the Arcade Game, and I was comparing the two Arcade games, and, the combo round with Rocksteady and Bebop from the first game was more difficult...
NWpowerhouse85 2 years ago
In the SNES version you fight Rocksteady and Bebop here (dressed as pirates!) and you fight Tokka and Rahzar on level 4, The Technodrome. Then you fight Shredder who sends you back in time. SNES version makes more sense because inside the Technodrome, Shredder would have the means to send you back in time. I really hope the XBLA/PSN remake is the SNES version
MrTwinbee 2 years ago 3
I couldna agree with you more MrTwinbee
Attaiguy 2 years ago
The remake will not be based on the snes version.
seanpq123 2 years ago
Yeah I know, sucks
MrTwinbee 2 years ago
The music sounded so much more liveley on the SNES
perun1nj 2 years ago
Do Tokah and Razah have a spot in the cartoon series or just the second movie?
cmckee1387 2 years ago
Yep, They had a spot in the cartoon series.
God0ptimusPrime 2 years ago
funny how the sega version isn't as good but still fun, but it's called hyper stone heist?
shino16 2 years ago
Wasnt there another ship in the distance that shot big boulders at you...?
Carminooch07 2 years ago
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that lightning effect looks like crap.
Alianger 3 years ago
Does the lighting hurt you when you fight the boss at the end?
sonicmario64 3 years ago
I figured someone would answer my question, but I guess not... It's pretty sad, actually. :(
sonicmario64 2 years ago
no its just for show bud. I've played this a million times and its never hit me.
ward7921 2 years ago
i think the bosses should be robot bebop and robot rocksteady in this stage
Simpan86 3 years ago 6
@Simpan86 I think you mean Super Rocksteady and Mighty Bebop
corjonbett 4 months ago
@Simpan86 Wouldn't that like, not make sense in this time period?
...then again, nothing else does.
GlennMagusHarvey 4 months ago
I think the SNES version makes sense as Beebop and Rock Steady are actually dressed as pirates
vdd 3 years ago 20
The SNES version also made sense in that the ship actually floated, giving some realism to the stage.
P.S.-Cement Man is a faggot.
sickemdudley01 3 years ago 5
I find it interesting how it starts running
SuperGenesisOfFate 3 years ago
looks like Tokka and Rahzar ain't shit without their fire and ice powers lmao :D
Thancruz 4 years ago
I can't recall ever playing a version, arcade or home, where those two were the bosses.
RBEO22 4 years ago
And they don't even talk, they just roar and growl instead.
Jac2Mac 3 years ago
In the SNES version, they're quote is just like something they said in the movie:
"Master say have fun..."
"Fun!"
sonicmario64 3 years ago
In the SNES version , the pirate ship level has Rocksteady & Bepop instead.
CaptainKeelhaul 2 years ago
Yeah it is. I spent half my teen years playing that game and I can honestly tell you that IS whut they say.
Bastardman316 2 years ago
in the SNES version there isn't a thunderstorm at the end when u fight bebop and rocksteady
GameLiker 4 years ago
Why does Mikey say "Pizza Power!" in the exact same tone, and eerily similar voice to Scrappy Doo saying "Puppy Power!"
It's wrong on so many levels.
chaosd1 4 years ago 3
why is tokka and rahzar in this level is don't make sense it should be Bebop & Rocksteady like in the snes version but the should have kept the rain in
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259 4 years ago
The SNES version is not better. It doesn't have all the cool voices in the arcade version, it doesn't have Cement Man, and worst of all, it doesn't have a four player option.
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Cement man sucks. Slash is way better.
259 4 years ago 14
No, he's not. Slash sucks. They already have two other evil turtles in this game. They don't need a third. Slash is just annoying to fight. He keeps on blocking your attacks. Cement Man is much funner to fight. The way he says "Cement Man Rules!" is awesome.
MasterMoron 4 years ago
Alright, then. I didn't realise I was trying to change your opinion instead just listening to you, so let's just keep what we like and end this. No need for an argument here.
259 4 years ago 2
Also, Slash is too serious for an evil turtle, they should have had a Triceraton instead of him in the SNES version of Turtles in Time, that would have been a very appropriate bad guy for the dinosaur stage.
Jac2Mac 3 years ago
The voices aren't very good in my opinion, They should have gotten the voice actors from the cartoon.
Also, cementman sucks. Slash is an actual fight, cement man is a joke.
bojak90 3 years ago 2
or i think at least robot bebop and robot rocksteady should be bosses in this level
Simpan86 4 years ago
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Tokka and Rahzar should not be in this level, i can do better and that
Simpan86 4 years ago
I remember as a lad and seeing this at Pizza Hut.
GlenMatthewisawsome 4 years ago 2
TMNT+Pizza= Perfect Product Placement
SkyMaro 4 years ago
Tokka and Rahzar have no lines in this one, but in the SNES version, they have the only real lines they said in the movie. Tokka: Master say have fun. Rahzar: Fun.
TKnHappyNess 4 years ago
In the movie, The TNMT managed to create a type of drug that could turn Tokka and Rahzar back to their original forms which are the Alligator Snapping Turtle and Wolf respectively...
Sc0lopendra 3 years ago
I see that Tokka & Rahzar are in the arcade version, compare to Bebop & Rocksteady in the Super Nintendo version.
ppgzfanatic 4 years ago
I was disappointed to find that change in the SNES version, along with several others. There wasn't any rain either. It looked like Konami tried giving it a less serious look.
Metalzoner 4 years ago
i remember playing this as a kid at pizza hut. unfortunally i can now olny play this on my SNES , but it's better than nothing.
pollo20x6 4 years ago
That my friend is true
ppgzfanatic 4 years ago