I don't think "connection" is a ripoff. It sounds more like a deliberate citation or sample of this song, and then it evolves in a completely different direction.
God I love this song. Too bad about Elastica ripping it off. This was the First Wire song I ever (remember) heard. 1 minute 24 seconds of life changing awesome.
@mschell5350 How funny is the world! I crashed my car last week because I was driving drunk. So, this one can't be the best (i'm still in shock even though it wasn't serious) hahaha But it's good tho! and even shorter!
@grantruby good artists should write their own music, it should come from their head not their stereos! i listen to my stereo to appreciate music not to get new riffs. could you imagine Ford ripping off chevs corvette and calling it the ford crovette - sounds stupid huh, problem with music is too many people dont have any inspiration but they have all the dexterity they need so whats a person to do - start ripping off the inspired artists - i have no respect for that kind of artist - NONE
@pippigladstone Good artists rip people off all the time. Transformative art has been around for centuries. As T.S. Eliot wrote: "One of the surest tests [of the superiority or inferiority of a poet] is the way in which a poet borrows. Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different."
And why does my stance mean I must listen to Sublime? Your stance must then mean you listen to Nickelback.
@Jasminebeeful Did they? Because it seems to me that, with their most familiar hit, Elastica just plain got away with ripping off another act's music, without that act's receiving any compensation (the out of court settlement did not line Wire's pockets), and without Elastica's giving a monkey's fuck about celebrating other people's ripped-off music. Cf. Blur with 'Song 2', ripping off the Icelandic band Botnleðja (AKA Silt) because they knew nobody had heard the original song.
@RussMoxham Well, I wouldn´t have got to know The Stranglers and Wire if it weren´t for Elastica..and I (only me, I suppose) went out and bought their albums...so.
@RussMoxham Give me a break, it was just the yippee part of the chorus that Blur used. Silt toured with Blur after Song #2 was released. Would they have accepted an opening slot if they felt ripped off? Would Blur have offered it? Apples and Oranges....
@miamiwax It's funny how bands like Elastica always gets blamed for one simple sound sampling in only one song when on the other hand, that Rihanna cunt sampled thousands of sounds from thousands of songs and gets away with everything! I think plagiarism has a problem somehow!
@Myworld1916 I would imagine Rihanna (like most major-label artists) has a huge team of lawyers looking to clear each and every song she samples. It's completely different.
@Myworld1916 Sampling isn't plagiarism. If you think Rihanna should get sued, then you might as well try to sue every hip hop and techno artist in the world too.
@Myworld1916 Sampling isn't plagiarism as long as they get permission. If you think Rihanna should get sued for simply doing it, then you might as well try to sue every hip hop and techno artist in the world too.
stutter has similar chords and timing at the beginning of ex-lion tamer, but the similarity stops in the first 2 seconds...other than that, don't really hear anything relatable.
well now, i think stutter by elastica is also a pretty clear mmm borrowing of elements from ex lion tamer. it was really hilarious when i dated someone who loved wire (whom i had not heard before) and he played me pink flag and i was like HOLY CRAP and proceeded to play him elastica songs- which he had never heard. then we saw they had been sued over it. ha.
Elastica = Crap band that released only 2 albums, which were bothe crap.
Wire= Joint best punk band ever (with the Clash), released more songs in Pink Flag (their debut) then elastica ever did. Pink Flag is one of the greates debuts ever and oh yeah, they fucking rock, so why even mention that shitty, band what no-one else remembers from the 90's.
Yes, and it worked a treat. Elastica??? Where are they now?? Hmmm. Wire...still knocking out stuff with more validity than most bands can even dream of today.
Case? What case? The enjoyment of music is strictly a subjective taste. That you think Wire is the cat's meow has no bearing on the fact that I think they sound like a bunch of snarling cats. As the Clash noted "If you have been doing for years, we've already heard your song" maybe its time Wire gives it a rest
@MoriKAshi "Line Up" sounds suspiciously like "I Am The Fly" by Wire and "Nothing Stays the Same" like "Kidney Bingos". Also the music on the new Ford Focus ad seems to owe a lot to "Kidney Bingos".
My mom's friend (a fellow teacher) made me a tape when I was 12 with Dr Octagon (kool keith), the Pixies, and wire. I already liked some good shit, but that tape changed my life. Especially The Pixies...This is an awesome song though...and 1 2 xu
Elastica settled out of court. I'm not surprised...
bodiegod 1 month ago
Respect to The Wire but that's a pretty generic riff
fede018 2 months ago 2
I don't think "connection" is a ripoff. It sounds more like a deliberate citation or sample of this song, and then it evolves in a completely different direction.
gullywoots 3 months ago
God I love this song. Too bad about Elastica ripping it off. This was the First Wire song I ever (remember) heard. 1 minute 24 seconds of life changing awesome.
Hareonca 5 months ago
alpha scouser you must be a fucking idiot
mork593 6 months ago
Elasticas version is better.
AlphaScouser 7 months ago
BEST SHORT SONG EVER!
JeemasM 8 months ago
@JeemasM No best short song. Drunk Driving by Sublime. But this one is good too.
mschell5350 3 months ago
@mschell5350 How funny is the world! I crashed my car last week because I was driving drunk. So, this one can't be the best (i'm still in shock even though it wasn't serious) hahaha But it's good tho! and even shorter!
JeemasM 3 months ago
"Talent borrows, genius steals" - Oscar Wilde. I like this song, as well as Elastica's "Connection".
fatpizzaman 8 months ago 7
who raped the replay button?
godofmetal712 10 months ago
Why is everyone so upset that Elastica jacked the riff from this? So what. Nothing is original. Good artists steal and make other's ideas their own.
grantruby 11 months ago
@grantruby good artists should write their own music, it should come from their head not their stereos! i listen to my stereo to appreciate music not to get new riffs. could you imagine Ford ripping off chevs corvette and calling it the ford crovette - sounds stupid huh, problem with music is too many people dont have any inspiration but they have all the dexterity they need so whats a person to do - start ripping off the inspired artists - i have no respect for that kind of artist - NONE
AudiobotHimself 10 months ago
@grantruby good artists DO NOT RIP PEOPLE OFF DUMMY. go listen to your sublime.
pippigladstone 9 months ago
@pippigladstone Good artists rip people off all the time. Transformative art has been around for centuries. As T.S. Eliot wrote: "One of the surest tests [of the superiority or inferiority of a poet] is the way in which a poet borrows. Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different."
And why does my stance mean I must listen to Sublime? Your stance must then mean you listen to Nickelback.
grantruby 9 months ago
@grantruby why would that mean i listen to nickelback they go hand in hand.
pippigladstone 9 months ago
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I just wish Wire were nice enough to play a song off Pink Flag when I saw their recent show!!! Really CRAP guys!!
ichdenkeauch 11 months ago
I just wish Wire were nice enough to play a song off Pink Flag when I saw there recent show!!! Really CRAP guys!!
ichdenkeauch 11 months ago
Elastica ended up paying for it. And which band is still remembered?
erikacornia 11 months ago
@erikacornia WIRE.
Rhea68 10 months ago
meh its such a simple riff... the songs themselves are quite different apart from that one riff
seaninboise 1 year ago 4
it's not exactly the most complicated riff, easy to stumble into.
00stephinitely00 1 year ago
P.S Musicians have been plagiarising each other for centuries...That´s just the way it is.
Jasminebeeful 1 year ago
GO UNDAH GO UNDAH, GO UNDAH GO UNDAH, YOU TEAR ME ASUNDAH
Lexd1989 1 year ago 2
the connection has been made.
rustycageandrun 1 year ago
Whats so wrong about a band being heavily influenced by another band? seriously
Theres nothing wrong with it
And they did change it, in case you didnt notice
but they didnt change it enough for idiots to recognise
mickmars51 1 year ago
@mickmars51 There's being heavily influenced and there's sucking Satan's copyright-infringing cock
RussMoxham 1 year ago
Quality, looked for this for ages, nice post.
kophead81 1 year ago
ELASTICA STRAIGHT UP RIPPED THIS OFF
miamiwax 1 year ago 48
@miamiwax Yes, they did. And they paid for it, too.
cfkane1000 1 year ago 3
@miamiwax no.
mickmars51 1 year ago
@miamiwax yes, but thanks to them..a lot of people who didn´t know about Wire got to discover them..so.
Jasminebeeful 1 year ago
@Jasminebeeful Did they? Because it seems to me that, with their most familiar hit, Elastica just plain got away with ripping off another act's music, without that act's receiving any compensation (the out of court settlement did not line Wire's pockets), and without Elastica's giving a monkey's fuck about celebrating other people's ripped-off music. Cf. Blur with 'Song 2', ripping off the Icelandic band Botnleðja (AKA Silt) because they knew nobody had heard the original song.
RussMoxham 1 year ago
@RussMoxham Well, I wouldn´t have got to know The Stranglers and Wire if it weren´t for Elastica..and I (only me, I suppose) went out and bought their albums...so.
Jasminebeeful 1 year ago
@RussMoxham Give me a break, it was just the yippee part of the chorus that Blur used. Silt toured with Blur after Song #2 was released. Would they have accepted an opening slot if they felt ripped off? Would Blur have offered it? Apples and Oranges....
stubkar 1 year ago
@stubkar uh no. The guitar riff.
yetanotherfakename 1 year ago
@miamiwax They ended up having to pay Wire damages.
cheekysausage 1 year ago
@cheekysausage
actually they paid nothing.
doomsdaydave11 11 months ago
@miamiwax word homie!
AudiobotHimself 10 months ago
@miamiwax It's funny how bands like Elastica always gets blamed for one simple sound sampling in only one song when on the other hand, that Rihanna cunt sampled thousands of sounds from thousands of songs and gets away with everything! I think plagiarism has a problem somehow!
Myworld1916 6 months ago
@Myworld1916 I would imagine Rihanna (like most major-label artists) has a huge team of lawyers looking to clear each and every song she samples. It's completely different.
AliceIs10ftTall 4 months ago
@Myworld1916 Sampling isn't plagiarism. If you think Rihanna should get sued, then you might as well try to sue every hip hop and techno artist in the world too.
ornjoos 4 months ago
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@Myworld1916 Sampling isn't plagiarism as long as they get permission. If you think Rihanna should get sued for simply doing it, then you might as well try to sue every hip hop and techno artist in the world too.
ornjoos 4 months ago
@miamiwax Or MAYBE they had a time machine and ripped off Elastica in 1995? Okay, you're right. Damn you. :)
maripocita37 2 months ago
@miamiwax they admitted it, too. so no harm done, nice recycling of a good riff.
biocykle 2 days ago
the clues in the title , rumba beat. just a thought .
axellock62 1 year ago
also people don't forget "Line Up" and "I am the Fly"
nschulz4537 1 year ago
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Never listen to this so called original one, but I still prefer Elastica's "connection" more!
brucechung 1 year ago
stutter has similar chords and timing at the beginning of ex-lion tamer, but the similarity stops in the first 2 seconds...other than that, don't really hear anything relatable.
chefmando 1 year ago
well now, i think stutter by elastica is also a pretty clear mmm borrowing of elements from ex lion tamer. it was really hilarious when i dated someone who loved wire (whom i had not heard before) and he played me pink flag and i was like HOLY CRAP and proceeded to play him elastica songs- which he had never heard. then we saw they had been sued over it. ha.
theteiger 2 years ago
Elastica = Crap band that released only 2 albums, which were bothe crap.
Wire= Joint best punk band ever (with the Clash), released more songs in Pink Flag (their debut) then elastica ever did. Pink Flag is one of the greates debuts ever and oh yeah, they fucking rock, so why even mention that shitty, band what no-one else remembers from the 90's.
The 90's were crap, Long live the 70's.
paranoidandroid192 2 years ago
Elastica is crap.
Jonee90210 2 years ago
Elastica's version rocks a lot more than this. Wire should be glad that Elastica ripped them off...for the better!
LTF6161 2 years ago
Fuck off
dazzdeadmeadow 2 years ago
@dazzdeadmeadow
That was original. Did you come up with that all by yourself?
LTF6161 2 years ago
Yes, and it worked a treat. Elastica??? Where are they now?? Hmmm. Wire...still knocking out stuff with more validity than most bands can even dream of today.
Case closed.
dazzdeadmeadow 2 years ago
@dazzdeadmeadow
Case? What case? The enjoyment of music is strictly a subjective taste. That you think Wire is the cat's meow has no bearing on the fact that I think they sound like a bunch of snarling cats. As the Clash noted "If you have been doing for years, we've already heard your song" maybe its time Wire gives it a rest
LTF6161 2 years ago
Seems the Clash didn't listen to subsequent Wire albums. The Clash just did the same old thing but made it tamer for an American market.
Good that The Clash felt the need to comment on a band that sound like "snarling cats". Shows how important Wire are.
Snarling cats...punk. Well maybe you need to buy some Aled Jones if you want an easier pace.
dazzdeadmeadow 2 years ago
@dazzdeadmeadow
Eh, the Clash weren't commenting on Wire but bands (or people) in general that have worn out their welcome.
LTF6161 2 years ago
Hahaha... did you just make fun of the Clash saying they put out the same old thing??
Yeah... definitely what they're known for. Rehashing the same music over and over...
They didn't combine 5 different genres of music at all....
deckham 2 years ago
Why listen to them then? Surely it's only your own time you're wasting?
RHutton2710 2 years ago
Yeah, Elastica seems to have ripped off a few of Wire's songs. search Youtube for Elastica vs Wire. Good little video comparison.
cerebraloddity 2 years ago
@cerebraloddity : Besides that one, I can't find anymore Elastica ripped off Wire.
MoriKAshi 2 years ago
@MoriKAshi "Line Up" sounds suspiciously like "I Am The Fly" by Wire and "Nothing Stays the Same" like "Kidney Bingos". Also the music on the new Ford Focus ad seems to owe a lot to "Kidney Bingos".
wir154 1 year ago
Connection by Elastica! :)
mm647165 2 years ago
punk in its crystallized form.
MarlboroShinobi 2 years ago
My mom's friend (a fellow teacher) made me a tape when I was 12 with Dr Octagon (kool keith), the Pixies, and wire. I already liked some good shit, but that tape changed my life. Especially The Pixies...This is an awesome song though...and 1 2 xu
timothyxmcveigh 2 years ago
...but somehow, the vital connection is made...
hysteresiscure 2 years ago 20
Colin was really handsome. And his face reflects his intelligence. Very intimidating.
andruchina 3 years ago
Seems like a nice guy to me. Love everything he's ever done.
fosterch 2 years ago 2
Yeah, I actually met him in Philly. Incredibly polite and nice and overall charming. Beautiful man inside and out.
andruchina 2 years ago 2
Just great! I love their music!....It always reminds me of funny times in the eightees when I used to be in the Punkscene! I love that memory!
Wichtelmayer 3 years ago 2