High Voltage D.C. spark tests

[MegaCophater]

Thats one way to clean ya dirty plugs mate!

[RonaldBlair]

how many Volts?? 

[m3sca1]

@RonaldBlair hard to say without a HV meter-the MOT puts out about 6-8 kV AC

so recitified its probably somewhere between 4 and 6 kV DC

[irondmax]

really cool

[rroge5]

good source of light

[m3sca1]

yeah it gets bright-carbon rods might be better for really bright light tho

[BenHutchinson1]

An arc reqires air to ionize, heat up, and glow. But you've made an arc not with a gas, but in water! How the blazes is that possible? Is this computer graphic special effects movie making or something?

[m3sca1]

perhaps the gas forms at the electrode then gets ionized-special effects it is not-have you seen the so called cold fusion reaction?

that takes place under water and isnt done with special effects.

btw welding can be done under water too

[spencezar666]

its makeing hho

[BankaiIchigo12345]

@spencezar666

H H O

or H2O are both water (2hydrogens and 1oxygen). HHO = steam (water gas) and is chemically no different than water. HHO is not a new compound. There is only 1 way to arrange 2 atoms of H and 1 of O. That is H2O, water. Anyone who tells you of a magical gas with ridiculous chemical properties called HHO is scamming you. Yeah you can create a highly flammable mixture of unburned H2 and O2 molecules, but that's just standard rocket fuel, and not some new discovery.

[OliverBroadbent]

Wouldnt you be producing a killer amount of chlorine with this? I mean im only 15 so i dunno. Im just wondering

[steblizz]

I will make my own experiments with a boy nearby. As I discover something I will show it in a video for everyone . Take a look at "deltahfs" or me from time to time.

[steblizz]

vaporized water under compression will explode with this, try to find the right frequency and do it!.....somewnere I read that Mr Keely found the disruption of water in 42712.2 Hertz, I don't know if it's true

[m3sca1]

thanx for your comment-i too have these magic numbers quoted before-and there is more than one of them.

obviuosly there is more than one sweetspot.

if i had the gear to put specific freqs into a cell i would defintitaley be trying it.

[tom3777]

I would suggest a clamp meter to measure the current. There is another video on youtube that has similar results with a dripping water supply into a spark plug.

[m3sca1]

thanx for you comment-i got one since your comment and will use it on any similar setups.

i had been holding out on buying new meters,but that was a good excuse =]

[passingtime38]

I tried something simular today. 110v ac in water and koh then water and baking soda.  I just hooked the leads directly to the spark plug. I didn't hsve a lot of success. I think i need more volts. 220v? I did get small small buzzing

[m3sca1]

yea you will need more volts-i hadnt thought about trying to do it inside a cylinder head.

i need to achieve a burn of water vapour 1st

[passingtime38]

Cool I went and bought a platinum plug yesterday. I did have better results later in the day. I got some arcing. you probably know this, but the venturi in a carbuator (spelling) will mist the water for you. The air/fuel mixture screws and the venturi work to make the right enviroment for combustion.

[passingtime38]

Have you thought about putting your spark plug in a lawn mower engine. Put a mix of electrolyte and distilled water in the tank? you might want to change the jets on the carb to get the right mist.

[passingtime38]

I seen some technical diagrams of this process on a web sitw. 500links water for fuel I'm going to start doing some experiments soon. Nice work. I think misting water under compression will lead to combustion. I don't know though.

[palehorsepalerider]

no it wont, youre talking about water vapor essentially in a diesel, and it just wont happen.

[dmgcat]

Use a platinum spark plug for better results. Hydrogen dissociates easier in the presence of platinum.

[overunitydotcom]

Can you please show in another video,

that you can light the bubbles and they burn ?

Did you now try sugar in water or biowaste ib water with the sparkplug ?

How many Watts of power do you feed into

the sparkplug to get this kind of arc burning ?

Are the contact points of the spark plug consumed this way very fastly ?

[m3sca1]

im poorly equipped in the test gear department.The circuit has a 20 Amp fuse,and is running from the wall at 240 V.Without a watt meter-i can only guess without risking blowing up multimeters.I spose i could keep changing fuses to a lower value until it pops-then call that the amps value to calculate wattage.Havent tried sugar yet,what kind of biowaste did you have in mind?.Will show flammability and biowaste and close up of plug burn in next vid...

[overunitydotcom]

How do you produce the high voltage again ?

Well, if you measure directly the AC amps

at the 240Volts AC sidewith a digital meter, this would be great.

Just try sugar with tap water, more or less sugar,probably more, try different solutions.

With biowaste I mean chopped gras lawn for instance or chopped leaves from trees, something you can find around your house easily or on your lawn or wood choppings.

So there are many small particles of hydrocarbons inside the water.

Many thanks.

[m3sca1]

its an old style microwave oven transformer(not a flyback),with its appropiate frequency doubler-on the input side,then the output is full wave rectified thru diodes that also came from Micro'ovens.

ive blown a 15 amp fuse so im not puttin my 10 amp rated meter on it.

heres what i think i will run now after your suggestion.

sugar(white and brown)

molasses

horse shit and goat shit(let someone else chop the biomaterial up);]

but i will stick to distilled for reasons of contaminating results

[overunitydotcom]

Can you please test with sugar in destilled water ?

Which test did put out the most bubbles that can be burned ?

Maybe chop up bio waste to very small pieces and this way a good production of CO and H2

burnable gases will be produced ?

What Voltage or power supply did you use ?

Many thanks.

[m3sca1]

i will try the sugar later today-need more distilled-powersupply is from an older style microwave oven-with frequency doubler-so about 100 cycles peer second.read above for voltage guesstimate.

it looked like bi carb-graphite ,then oxalic acid-in that order of best gas produced.

but it may be a fight for 1st place between the graphite and the bicarb.

[WizardFromHolland]

Hey COOL !! I saw on a video that the bubbles are react within a magnetic field . Maybee you can try to "push/pull" the bubbles away with a permanent magnet.

[m3sca1]

i was thinking something more simple like a water pump-but thanks for comment/ideas.

[tvryb]

this is what REAL science is! Experimentation!

[m3sca1]

i am hoping more people start to try new ways of getting the results we are after.

this is the edge of a whole new science.

thanx for commenting.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Your a bright spark. 5 stars keep it up. Try carbon electrodes. you can get the carbon from the center of any general purpose disposable torch battery (Make sure there is no mercury in battery) I dont think they add mercury to disposable batteries in the US anymore.

[tvryb]

that's a gem piece of info!!

[m3sca1]

thanx for the tip ChrisP.i first saw these rods on our farm,the previous owners had thrown batteries in a gully for over 80 years.

i kept finding carbon rods-thinking what has been the past life of this thing?then i found one still with some rusty battery around it.

pity its too far away to just drive there and get one-so i have to chop up a battery

[m3sca1]

i just pulled apart a fresh C cell and it didnt have a carbon rod-it has a thin electrode that looks like aluminium.

which was inserted into a cardboard cylinder of mushy stuff that also looked like it contained aluminium in a paste.

around the damp cardboard was damp black stuff with the consistency of crumbly wet chalk.

any ideas?what battery did you get yours from?

[ChrisPCrunchy]

You are pulling apart a heavy duty battery high power battery either Alkaline or Lithium. You need the real cheapy economy battery Zinc carbon type designed for low power devices like smoke detectors clocks torches etc. Buy the cheapest battery and you will have the right one. Ware gloves and be carefull when handling. make sure it says no mercury.

[m3sca1]

ahh ok-it was the cheapest i could find-however it said alkaline long life.

yeah i was gloved up,and disposed of the material accordingly...thanks for that.

[RHEAD100]

Gentalmen !!!! Just go to home depot or lowe's and buy some cabon arc welding rods.

They come in differant diameters and are 12 inches long.

[m3sca1]

thankyou for that- i am going to welding supply shop for ferrocerium electrodes and will get some while im there.

[RHEAD100]

Glade I could help.

I once used an old stile auto coil and ran 110 volts through it. Talk about an arc !!!!

[Careica]

Holy Shit! That is much hydrogen, but how many Volts and Amps?

[m3sca1]

i cant measure the volts and amps with my meter.its too high and will destroy the meter!!

im guessing about 6000 Volts D.C.,and anywhere under 20 amps as that is the rating on the fuse that is driving the Microwave oven transforner.

i think more hydrogen will come if the water moves rapidly over the electrodes-pushing the gas away from being lit by the spark.

[crob227]

you took the sp out of that spark plug. what happens with steam under that plug.5stars

[m3sca1]

not sure yet-there are so many avenues to explore here...

[Careica]

So it go over kiloWatts.

[m3sca1]

it was a 1100 watt microwave oven

[Careica]

But when we go to that much electricity using, efficenty go down. But I don't know, maybe your spark plug make 10 liters per minuite. But it definetly make much heat!