Stratos Fear (1933 November 11) | Willie Whopper | Ub Iwerks

[Eternalgamers1]

Am I the only one curious too see what kind

Of food willy would have turned into

[deadlyshoesalesman]

@Eternalgamers1 A Burger King Whopper.

[butchdeadlift10]

People look at stuff like "adventure time", "chowder" and "flapjack" and consider it "modern" cartoon humor to be balls-to-the-walls insane. 80 years ago they new how to do it, to bad so many kids are turned off by film grain and black/white film

[deadlyshoesalesman]

@butchdeadlift10 I wonder if that will change, or if it is changing. An older generation resented it because many of them had to have B&W TVs when they couldn't afford color ones. Once they switched to color, they never wanted to go back. Well, now color is commonplace, and it's black-and-white that is rare. It still looks cool, and maybe now it's easier to appreciate how much so.

[butchdeadlift10]

@deadlyshoesalesman Perhaps now is the time for compilation shows to feature these old gems. A little bit of audio re-mastery and clean up. Maybe they can take the pudjet of 6 minutes of animation to bookend the weirdness and make a daytime show playing these shorts (like how chuck jones and friz freeling sold the looney tunes to TV in the 50s)

[deadlyshoesalesman]

@butchdeadlift10 Emphasizing the weirdness would definitely be a good idea. "Weird" and "random" are now terms of praise; and it's hard to beat the oddness of these old cartoons. New ones are more self-consciously weird, but it's not the same. The biggest obstacle to marketing these films for children would not be the B&W. It would be the guns, racial caricatures, smoking, punching and other things that have been PC-wiped from our screens. Not even adults are allowed to see smoking.

[butchdeadlift10]

@deadlyshoesalesman Oh yeah, forgot about the guns, racism and liquor most cartoons had......allow me to digress.

so in modern cartoons vomit, bird shit, words like "suck", violence, saggy boobs, and bland racism are "okay", but guns, booze, and bosko are out of it. I am annoyed people gripe about disney for the crows from dumbo or "What makes the red man red", but they don't remember how bad it really got because they assume cartoons have and always were designed for children.

[deadlyshoesalesman]

@butchdeadlift10 That gross-out humor is why I avoid most modern animation, most modern children's films and most modern comedies. (Pixar and Studio Ghibli are the glorious exceptions.) Of course, these old cartoons aren't perfectly innocent in that regard. I've seen enough tobacco juice in early 30s cartoons to fill a lake... The nice thing about YouTube is that kids can see these films without networks or their affiliates or cable stations telling them they can't.

[butchdeadlift10]

@deadlyshoesalesman .....I recently purchased a dvd of public domain cartoons (roughly 150 of them). Would it be worth it to put them on youtube?

By the way; this is one of the most worth while youtube conversations ever

[deadlyshoesalesman]

@butchdeadlift10 Yes, definitely. If I had the programs to rip cartoons from public domain DVDs I'd do it, too. (My uploads are all mirrors from material that was already uploaded to video-streaming sites. The quality is, consequently, not very good and is why I stopped uploading.) Put a priority on any cartoons that are not already available on YouTube... It *is* rare to have good conversations on YouTube.

[butchdeadlift10]

@deadlyshoesalesman indeed, but if you need something for ripping purposes, I recomend Handbrake. it works really well on dvds that don't have over 38 chapters (FYI, you know how a DVD menu has scene selection? well when I say chapters I mean those segments of the dvd {strangly, for DvDs like the WB JLU series, each episode is non segmented and counts as one chapter to the program})

[deadlyshoesalesman]

@butchdeadlift10 I had Handbrake and had trouble with it, but that was probably due to my poor computer skills and my poor old computer. When I buy a new one, I'll try it again... I'm eager to see what cartoons you upload. I'll go subscribe to you now.

[butchdeadlift10]

@deadlyshoesalesman Woh, wait on that, I would not upload those cartoons with this account, my account is happy with small veiwership and low copyright attention. If you want to see my homework, then fine. But I would likely open something called (and this has been on the tip of my tounge for a while), the "Ubb Hub"

[deadlyshoesalesman]

@butchdeadlift10 Well, let me know when you open it. And your homework is very interesting. "OXOX" has charming designs, expressive poses and good staging. I'm eager to see the final work.

[butchdeadlift10]

@deadlyshoesalesman And with that I am reminded why spending the day on youtube was a bad idea. LOL. I got a project ahead of me

[verbusen]

That cartoon took a lot of imagination to make for 1933, amazing really! Great entertainment and very new when all you grew up on were Loony Tunes and Popeye and some Disney from this time like I did. What a whopper, THANKS!

[mankind89032]

I've never heard of this character until just now. Wow.

[4dmcrunch]

This is my favorite of the Ub Iwerks cartoons.  I loved the surrealism and Carl Stalling's music. I still wonder what kind of processed products Willie would have turned into.

[lexbates]

I have a silent 8mm print of this.Nice to finally see it with sound.

[doctorkazoo]

What a great old cartoon! Just out of curiosity I played some of the alien language backwards. At around 1:34 and 1:52 its someone signing Yankee Doodle Went To Town and from about 2:56 to 3:03 its some guy counting 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 at different speeds. Might be something at 2:05 and 2:30 if someone can slow it down a bit...not sure. Very interesting!

[4dmcrunch]

Thanks for playing those clips backwards. I suspected the first couple were 'Yankee Doodle' backwards but wasn't sure about the later clips.

[doctorkazoo]

@4dmcrunch Cool! I never came back here so I didn't see that anyone had even appreciated what I had discovered! :)