California is a joke.they think that if they ban a certain gun the criminals won't use them. Like a criminal is gonna say " hey Dan let's go pull off that home invasion that we were talking about, oh wait we can't do that dude cause handguns are banned in the city limits.ah shucks oh well guess we can't rob that house." No they are going to rob the house anyways, with the illegal gun because they are criminal's. Stupid gun laws ONLY affect law abiding citizens.
Even if the law did work and the criminal didn't carry a firearm.. they are still violent, so wouldn't they simply move to the next weapon they can grab?
those would be even nicer looking if they had a thicker barrel and maybe something under the barrel to hold it a bit more steady do you know if they make eather one or even both for that gun? i need 2 know quick im heading to the gun store in like a week plz help me thx
the m1 grand was a veary relieable rifle in the sand then the m14 is a diffrent cal. but bassed off the same rifle then ruger made the mini rifles i think a modafide modle of the 30 rifle would be a grate rifle for are soldgers they can take ammo from the enemy and i think it would help out are soldgers and gile thim something more relible than the m16 and the m4
The front iron sight is not AR stylr. It's M1 Garand style due to the fact that the M1 was the first rifle to have that front iron sight and the Mini-14/MIni-30 are based off the M14 Garand which is a modern version of the M1 Garand.
Tapco really sucks at putting any practical ventilation for the barrel on their stocks. I had an SKS with the Tapco stock and it had the same forend this stock has. The barrel really has no way to release the heat build up and will affect accuracy if shot in concession. ATI's weak point is in the folding joint and buttstock. Too much wobble and the buttstock is garbage. Two choices for $100 aftermarket stocks. Choose your stocks weak point.
@GunWebsites Doesnt ruger make factory 20rd mags for the 30? I had a 14 for a while and NEVER found any mags that were worth a damn that were not factory and they are pricey.
@mixmaster76 yes the ruger factory 20rd mags for the mini 30 are excellent. but you get what you pay for so they are a bit pricey. worth it in my opinion.
@juggla4evr1 the mini 30 comes chambered in 7.62 which equals a .30 cal, hence the name, the mini 14 is chambered in .223 and is called the mini 14 because its a scaled down m14/m1a at heart
Damn I want some good toys, but no some former-hippy yuppie says no. I say only Military & gun lovers should be politicial leaders. God, I am so ashamed to be from the Commie-State of California. There is no reason here! High corruption from government and law-enforcement officials that criminalize the law-abiding in their right to protect them lives and property, while rewarding and giving criminals a free ride on our tax dollar. Disgusting! Long live the US & the Constitution.
@MavHunter20XX Try fending off hundreds of communist Asians when you have a triggerlock on every gun and 5 round magazines. The Canadians tried it, that's why they lost Alaska. Trust me, I have a Ph.D in history.
The problem I experienced with this gun is that the after market mags do not function properly with the rifle. They jam up after every few shots. I'ver tried pro mag to other brand names. Unfortunately i sold it beacuse the only time the gun funtion flawlessly was with the 5 round factory mag.
@jondoethegreat 7.62x39 is the ak rd. there is also the 7.62x51 and 7.62x54 natos. just trying to keep people from being confused.... but there is many 7.62 rds
@ToastAndSausage how do you mean that? a family of 5 can eat from a moose or a big deer and bigger of course, you can take down a moose with a .308, but it can also be done with bigger rounds, so why do you want the biggest round?
@ToastAndSausage oh oke, sorry, I think a .300 winmag or .308 will do just fine, but you need to check your local laws or state laws so you don't get unexpected surprises
@ToastAndSausage a really good round that can take down a big animal at a distance and still have enough power to take down an animal like moose, deer, or even a bear is a 30-06
wow that's a beauty. I live in CA so I have to settle for the regular Ruger. The pistol grip on yours makes it an "assault rifle" here in Commiefornia.
a .22 could take down a deer with good shot placement... but it doesn't make it legal... in most states a .223 is illegal to hunt big game with (i.e) deer
Really want one, but the Mini-14 instead. The only reason, because I want the Flash suppressor, and the Blued steel finish. Then onto a TAPCO stock. By the way, really like that Desert Tan. Its somewhat depressing that these stocks are $100.00, but for an EBR stock its $800.00. Why? Oh, and could clear something up for me. You said you can take down a deer with this round/gun, and I believe that, but my friend seems to think it can be done by .223? What do you think?
@JohnnyBoyCali yes by all means you must use a large meat ruining caliber on a small harmless deer. if you're so concerned with downing the deer with a painless death then shoot it in the head or the neck. but of course I doubt you're a good enough hunter to even get close enough to execute such an ideal and ethical shot. cause if you were you'd find the .223 is quite adequate for deer. contrary to what the "expert" beer drinking, sloppy shooting, buck fever, road hunters keep regurgitating.
@JohnnyBoyCali In most states, it's legal to hunt deer with .223 centerfire ammo. If it couldn't kill a deer effectively, it wouldn't be legal. A good rule of thumb: If it can kill a man effectively, it can kill a deer in almost the same manor because many white tail deer have the same body mass as that of a man.
@JohnnyBoyCali I won't argue that a .30 cal rifle is better suited at killing a man than a .223, but I've seen too many dead bodies killed by a M16, single shot, to say that the .223 is completely ineffective. If given a choice, I would select a .308 over a M16 any day. Besides, the .308 wasn't invented untill 1951 for the M1 conversions that would later become the M14. So it was always intended for killing men not deer.
@GunWebsites it would definately kill one if you hit head, heart or major artery. double lung shot would probly kill it but depends on your ammo. but i do know that 165gr .30-06 nosler ballistic tip drops em (=
I have an older friend who has been hunting deer in north Florida for longer than ive known him using a .223 bolt action. Its all in shot placement, and he has stoned a few big bucks. Me i prefer my 30-06 or 308 where there is less of a chance of not stoning one and have to track it. Im a bit of a lazy hunter. But i do use .223 for anything smaller than deer. and i have a Mini 14 on the way to help aid in coyote control
@somedirtyangel 223 will take down a deer. I did it this past hunting season. I loaded up some 60grn Nosler partitions to arount 3000 fps and it did the trick.
@somedirtyangel dude deer have been taken with bamboo arrows(homemade) with a 45 lb bow ..you can kill a deer with a 9 mm round if u hit the kill spot (head,heart)..hell even a 22 will kill with perfect placement..its all about accuracy..
@bassnman420 Yeah, but I'm trying to kill for sport with a .22 or some bamboo bullshit. Think hunting, then eating. Yumm. Right? haha How about a .50 cal then I wont need to gut it
@somedirtyangel A .223 round can take down a deer if you hit it in the right spot for an instant kill shot, if not only one round will wound it and it will run off never to be seen again so id put a couple rounds in it to put her down good. personally i use a bolt action 30-06 for deer and a mini 14 for shooting targets and small rodents.
@kramnahillac While I would never even consider trying it or recommend anyone to try it, at close range even a .22lr can take down a deer. As with most all things, it's all about placement.
@somedirtyangel the smallest round that is legally able to do it is the .243 and the mini 30 uses a .303 you can tell the difference. The .223 is to small to cause enough damage to take down a deer it is accurate enough but not enough take down power
I have that same tapco stock...you should get the forward grip and an accustrut...not only for added accuracy, but it also makes the weapon look much more aggressive.
@slackingFox thanks slackingfox. :) I found it about a day after I posted that comment. Went searching and found it on cabela's and a couple other sites, like cheaper than dirt. Best wishes
@soixe1997 according to Wikipedia(which by the way is not a reliable source) says that the 7.62 x39 is commonly known as the poor man's deer cartridge due it the 7.62 x 39 has the equal power of 30-30. The SKS rifle is called the poor man's deer rifle as well as the MAK-90 Sporter but you can only use the five hunting magazines.
In a short 7 months, I will be able to purchase my very first gun! I am plagued with being a resident of California. Would you recommend this gun? The prerequisites of my first rifle would be that it must fire a very common round (either 5.56 or 7.62x39). Also the rifle must be extremely durable.
Unfortunately, due to my place of residency, I would be unable to purchase an Ak which would be more than happy to own.
Any recommendations for anyone would be appreciated!
@GeneralBerger Ya man get a mini. Tactical model has overmoulded stock without the pistol grip. You can still do the accurization stuff like the strut. I do not know if they're selling that model in CA because it has a flash hider. You can put an aftermarket one on your gun but be sure the product documentation says "MUZZLE BRAKE" like John Masen. That's how stupid the law is and YES, it has come down to that. You can only have a 10 round mag. Otherwise its just as good as a semi AK.
Would you say that this model (Mini 30) is better than the Mini 14 chambered for the .223 Rem. round or am I asking for a comparison of apples to oranges?
@logosphi, depends on what you're using it for. the 223 is a faster more accurate round but has low mass. if you're planning on shooting targets at 100+ yards or terrorizing your local varmints, the 223 is the way to go. the 762 is far more deserving of the title "ranch rifle", as the heavier round can take down deer, coyotes, fisher cats etc. for home defense similarly, the 762 is better. another thing to consider is 223 ammo is more expensive.
Ruger is selling factory 20 round mags for the mini 30 now, finally. I just got three and they look great and perform perfectly. Definitely going to get a few more of them.
they dont come in .308 or .30-06, they do come in 7.62 x 39mm, which isnt .308, .308 is 7.62 x 51mm, and .30-06 is 7.62 x 63mm.
you arent going to find anything too cheap if your looking for a .308 carbine, try an AR10, or M1A (m14) if you have the money, the only semi automatic riflein .30-06 that is fairly easy to find would probably be either a B.A.R. or M1 Garand.
Well I'd hate to argue with you but the 7.62x39 IS a .308 round (7.62 milimeters = .308 inches) but I understand that you were saying is that its not a .308 WINCHESTER. He was partially correct, but only in technicality.
if only ruger would come out with a good 30 rounder for the mini 30 i would go out and buy one tomorrow. love the grarand action, love the 7.62x39. but untill a good reliable mag comes around for it i am going with an ak.
USA Magazines when you can find them are great in the 10rd and 30rd types very little issues. I just read that Ruger is releasing the 20rd factory mags for the Mini-30 now. A few years ago I read an article about a conversion kit to allow the use of AK47 mags but I have not been able to find the kit and Ruger does not sell the SEAL Trigger Assembly housing to anyone other than the SEALs I have tried even with Military credentials.
The guns aren't made for sustained or rapid fire- they get HOT fast, and accuracy suffers. They are hunting rifles. In addition you can't use the inexpensive surplus (steel cased) ammo, which makes it expensive to shoot an carbine that is 4X more than an SKS..., only thing going for them in my humble opinion is they are Rugers, and come in an all weather (stainless) finish.
The surplus stuff is from overseas and uses a 'soft' primer and causes misfires and can screw up your firing pin. You have to use stuff like Winchester in it..
Ruger MINI-30 was created at the request of the US Navy Special Warefare Units better known as SEAL TEAMS as a weapon that SEALS can take into battle in places were a light foot print is required and they can use the Enemies Ammo and Mags. The SEAL version of the Mini-30 uses AK47 Mags and is a AUTOMATIC weapon. The only difference between the SEAL and commercial weapon is the trigger group assembly. The WEAPON can shoot auto. I have a mini30 circa 1994 that is AWSOME.
@evan13dam AK mags are never used in Minis..I ment, I went over to a whole other rife. I bought AKs both the 47 and the 74..had a 84 for a while also (5.56mm)
@evan13dam but anyway, the mini action is rock solid. Its basically a M1 Garand action and when its working right it will rock and roll with the best of them..as American as apple pie. Actions like these were used by the US military from the early 40s all the way up to the 70s..some US snipers still use it in modified M14s. As I said before the Mini was sensitve to mags though. Ruger factory was always the best but hard to get and DONT use any USA mag Pre-1992 or so. Old Ramline's suck too.
@evan13dam I had Mini 30 made somtime in the early 90s and I could really only get USA 30rd mags to work in it, other than that I had no problems at all. It would burn through even the cheapest steel case ammo i could find. As for "rapid fire problems" youre dead wrong. Many full-auto "minis" were made. The French Navy bought alot of them in the 70s.(stainless) I shoot mine unitl it bbl was almost red hot and it would be fine, accuracy was on par with other assult rifles.
Maybe, but the civilian ones are probably not made to the same specs..., somone else was saying the Seals had them so they could use mags and ammo from other places. Well, my AK mags don't fit in my mini..., and the firing pin must have been different to as I imagine they'd like a gun they can count on. My mini WILL jam, and misfire with surplus ammo every few magazines atleast..
@evan13dam . Im not sure what youre really talking about with the firing pin, Berdan priming in comboc ammo is harder than western boxer primed ammo but not by much. If you are having problems with your mini, something is wrong. Go have it checked out by a good gunsmith. When you say "jam" what do you mean? Failure to feed, fire, extract, ,eject or double-feed..what kind of "jam" are you talking about? each one is a different problem.
I have heard/read many good things about the mini 14. I like the mini 30 because of the larger caliber. Is the mini 30 as reliable and as good and the mini 14? What about accessories and magazines? I know there is lots for the mini 14.
YES the Mini-30 is as reliable as the Mini-14 just have to be careful about the quality of the High Capacity mags 20rd and 30rd. Since the death of Bill Ruger the company is getting into the Tactical weapon arena and releasing the Factory Higher capacity of the Mini 14 and now the Mini 30 with both 20 and 30 round mags that were only available to Police and Government Agencies before.
For whatever it's worth Ruger will be offering 20 round factory magazines for the Mini-30. Buy a new 30 and you'll have the option of a 5 or 20 round mag. Maybe by Dec but for sure Jan you should be able to buy the Hi-Caps for your current Mini-30. Apparently they are finally listening to their customers.
The Issue was Bill Ruger he didnt believe is selling Tactical or ParaMilitary type weapons to the general public. The scope of the Company has been changing and I expect great things in the near future. Who would have thought that Ruger would have been making an AR15 type rifle 5 years ago? I am still waiting for the 308 win or 7.62x51mm NATO rifle similar to the M14 that was called the XGI in the mid-80s
i love the minis... but i heard there are some issues with finding reliable 30 round mags for it which is the only thing keeping me from getting one. the mini 14 is okay but if i want a .223 ill get an ar.
@dp665 I had a Mini 30 back in the90s, you had to use USA mags and they were a bit pricey, great rifle but in the end I went over to the AKs just becuse they were cheaper to buy mags and accesories for, but make no mistake, you can build a fine rig on a Mini platform, mine was classy as hell, wooden "Falcon Folder" stock and a HK style flash hider, really nice but in the end the AK was more practical and lighter. Mini30 was nice with handloads though, Nosler ballistic tips were good on deer.
I always wondered why they didn't make them compatible with AK mags. It would sure make life easier.
XCritonX 1 week ago
I'll keep my AK!
Bassboy1972 1 month ago
California is a joke.they think that if they ban a certain gun the criminals won't use them. Like a criminal is gonna say " hey Dan let's go pull off that home invasion that we were talking about, oh wait we can't do that dude cause handguns are banned in the city limits.ah shucks oh well guess we can't rob that house." No they are going to rob the house anyways, with the illegal gun because they are criminal's. Stupid gun laws ONLY affect law abiding citizens.
turbotim3 1 month ago 2
@turbotim3
Even if the law did work and the criminal didn't carry a firearm.. they are still violent, so wouldn't they simply move to the next weapon they can grab?
GunWebsites 1 month ago
Thanks for the video.... Can you shoot 7.62 with steel casings through this?
wilkbor 2 months ago
those would be even nicer looking if they had a thicker barrel and maybe something under the barrel to hold it a bit more steady do you know if they make eather one or even both for that gun? i need 2 know quick im heading to the gun store in like a week plz help me thx
APhelps91 2 months ago
how does this compare to an sks??
zincmelt 3 months ago
@zincmelt SKS will eat cheaper stuff then the mini-30. little less better built and I think its a less accurate rifle as well
TheIamfrustrated 3 months ago
a flash hider would make it look better
1bearcatf8f 4 months ago
Love that Garand action..... if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
surfstrat59 4 months ago
can i still mount a decent scope 3-9x40 on there with that stock didnt look like much room
cheers
madkeenNZ 5 months ago
B A Baracas's Rifle!! ? THe a-TEAM!!
PublicFilthSpeeks 5 months ago
why not mod the mini 30 so it could take ak 47 mags. cheaper high cap mags
30combloc 6 months ago
@30combloc THey dont use the same mag they are not even close.
Wolfstanus 6 months ago
the m1 grand was a veary relieable rifle in the sand then the m14 is a diffrent cal. but bassed off the same rifle then ruger made the mini rifles i think a modafide modle of the 30 rifle would be a grate rifle for are soldgers they can take ammo from the enemy and i think it would help out are soldgers and gile thim something more relible than the m16 and the m4
noahboa13000 7 months ago
The front iron sight is not AR stylr. It's M1 Garand style due to the fact that the M1 was the first rifle to have that front iron sight and the Mini-14/MIni-30 are based off the M14 Garand which is a modern version of the M1 Garand.
Carnotaurus98 7 months ago
Tapco really sucks at putting any practical ventilation for the barrel on their stocks. I had an SKS with the Tapco stock and it had the same forend this stock has. The barrel really has no way to release the heat build up and will affect accuracy if shot in concession. ATI's weak point is in the folding joint and buttstock. Too much wobble and the buttstock is garbage. Two choices for $100 aftermarket stocks. Choose your stocks weak point.
AKSKSMAN 7 months ago
I think its a good review, but I have the volume turned up max and it's still hard to hear the reviewer.
edgybob1 8 months ago
where did you get the high cap mags and are they reliable
gonzosc1 9 months ago
@gonzosc1
I have yet to hear of a reliable high cap
GunWebsites 9 months ago
@GunWebsites SureFire magazines for 60 & 100 rounds for the AR-15/M4/M16 variants and all the AR-15 are being tested.
FPSrUSSRia 8 months ago
@GunWebsites Factory high caps are availible now, and they're reliable
jonestim491 8 months ago
@GunWebsites Doesnt ruger make factory 20rd mags for the 30? I had a 14 for a while and NEVER found any mags that were worth a damn that were not factory and they are pricey.
mixmaster76 6 months ago
@mixmaster76 yes the ruger factory 20rd mags for the mini 30 are excellent. but you get what you pay for so they are a bit pricey. worth it in my opinion.
bigT5g 6 months ago
@gonzosc1 My dad has a 20 round,30 round and 50,round mags for his mini 30 but he got all those before the ban of high cap mags.
1bearcatf8f 4 months ago
Whats the accuracy on this?
kop4321 9 months ago
@lnclincoln
no
GunWebsites 10 months ago
is it chambered in 7.62x39? how di you do tht ?? how can i get mine like that ?
juggla4evr1 10 months ago
@juggla4evr1 the mini 30 comes chambered in 7.62 which equals a .30 cal, hence the name, the mini 14 is chambered in .223 and is called the mini 14 because its a scaled down m14/m1a at heart
davism4a1 10 months ago
well... Looks like a informative video, Just wish I could hear the guy...
hawtdog79 1 year ago
Lets see North Korea try to invade the US!
revenge797 1 year ago 11
@revenge797 already happened dont you look mexicans did to.
Bandagedsniper 8 months ago
@revenge797 They only got about a month of Ordinance.
C172Pilotdude 5 months ago
@revenge797 It'll be easy if the damn anti-gun liberals have their way.
MavHunter20XX 5 months ago 5
@MavHunter20XX This liberal owns a beretta 591, a springfield XDM 9, and a mini 30
marshaeg 5 months ago
@marshaeg that just makes you a liberal, not anti-gun ;)
MavHunter20XX 5 months ago
@MavHunter20XX
Damn I want some good toys, but no some former-hippy yuppie says no. I say only Military & gun lovers should be politicial leaders. God, I am so ashamed to be from the Commie-State of California. There is no reason here! High corruption from government and law-enforcement officials that criminalize the law-abiding in their right to protect them lives and property, while rewarding and giving criminals a free ride on our tax dollar. Disgusting! Long live the US & the Constitution.
cshgeo 4 months ago
@MavHunter20XX Try fending off hundreds of communist Asians when you have a triggerlock on every gun and 5 round magazines. The Canadians tried it, that's why they lost Alaska. Trust me, I have a Ph.D in history.
MrNelsonButterscotch 1 month ago
"Its somewhat depressing that these stocks are $100.00, but for an EBR stock its $800.00. Why?" TAPCO = CRAPCO, that's why.
redlegagent 1 year ago
The problem I experienced with this gun is that the after market mags do not function properly with the rifle. They jam up after every few shots. I'ver tried pro mag to other brand names. Unfortunately i sold it beacuse the only time the gun funtion flawlessly was with the 5 round factory mag.
mrbratsch 1 year ago
What are you idiots complaining about the .223 for this is chambered in 7.62x39
steelhorserider600 1 year ago
AK 47 is the way to go
MrDarkwolf1995 1 year ago
Does anybody else have the A-Team theme song pop into the brain when seeing this video?
oeyesea 1 year ago
what do you think about the best high cap mag for this gun??
jigglejack100 1 year ago
i wanna know if the stock is changeable with other ar style stocks? looks to be but i dont have a mini 14 or 30 stock in front of my to confirm it.
sharper1106 1 year ago
has anyone found a good aftermarket magazine in polymer that feed well and doesnt jam a lot.
bigshowoff321 1 year ago
@keesurt so what round is the best overall round
ToastAndSausage 1 year ago
what the difference between a mini 30 and a mini 14
Spencerfoster1 1 year ago
@Spencerfoster1 mini 14's shoot a .223, mini 30 shoots 7.62 (same round as ak47 )
jondoethegreat 1 year ago
@jondoethegreat ok thx
Spencerfoster1 1 year ago
@jondoethegreat 7.62x39 is the ak rd. there is also the 7.62x51 and 7.62x54 natos. just trying to keep people from being confused.... but there is many 7.62 rds
sharper1106 1 year ago
@sharper1106 but the mini 30 does shoot the same round as the ak 47, am i correct on that?
jondoethegreat 1 year ago
@jondoethegreat yup 7.62x39mm, i was just saying theres more then one type of 7.62. 7.62x25 is a pistol rd. the most common is the 7.62x39 tho
sharper1106 1 year ago
@sharper1106 iirc 7.62x54 is not nato its a russian round, for the dragunov series rifles, 7.62x51 is a nato round
davidnguyenstudio 1 year ago
@davidnguyenstudio stomp on my parade will ya lol. i know this, but after re reading what i said i see where it looks i mean the 7.62x54 is nato.
sharper1106 1 year ago
What is the biggest round to take down a animal that can feed a family of 5?
ToastAndSausage 1 year ago
@ToastAndSausage how do you mean that? a family of 5 can eat from a moose or a big deer and bigger of course, you can take down a moose with a .308, but it can also be done with bigger rounds, so why do you want the biggest round?
keesurt 1 year ago
@keesurt I mean which is the round that is the most effective
ToastAndSausage 1 year ago
@ToastAndSausage oh oke, sorry, I think a .300 winmag or .308 will do just fine, but you need to check your local laws or state laws so you don't get unexpected surprises
keesurt 1 year ago
@keesurt So whats the best Overall round????
ToastAndSausage 1 year ago
@ToastAndSausage a really good round that can take down a big animal at a distance and still have enough power to take down an animal like moose, deer, or even a bear is a 30-06
weenershnitzel336 1 year ago
@ToastAndSausage 9mm its only for men though...
bassanglr 1 year ago
wow that's a beauty. I live in CA so I have to settle for the regular Ruger. The pistol grip on yours makes it an "assault rifle" here in Commiefornia.
bob555555 1 year ago
a .22 could take down a deer with good shot placement... but it doesn't make it legal... in most states a .223 is illegal to hunt big game with (i.e) deer
bsorensen07 1 year ago
was going to buy one this week and then saw the prices!! this thing really $900+ ?!?!?!?!?!?
metalcharger17 1 year ago
Really want one, but the Mini-14 instead. The only reason, because I want the Flash suppressor, and the Blued steel finish. Then onto a TAPCO stock. By the way, really like that Desert Tan. Its somewhat depressing that these stocks are $100.00, but for an EBR stock its $800.00. Why? Oh, and could clear something up for me. You said you can take down a deer with this round/gun, and I believe that, but my friend seems to think it can be done by .223? What do you think?
somedirtyangel 1 year ago
@somedirtyangel
I think most people agree a .223 could take a deer, but I doubt it's many peoples first choice
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JohnnyBoyCali 1 year ago
@JohnnyBoyCali
Can you read?
I don't have any reason to believe you even hunt..
GunWebsites 1 year ago
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JohnnyBoyCali 1 year ago
@JohnnyBoyCali yes by all means you must use a large meat ruining caliber on a small harmless deer. if you're so concerned with downing the deer with a painless death then shoot it in the head or the neck. but of course I doubt you're a good enough hunter to even get close enough to execute such an ideal and ethical shot. cause if you were you'd find the .223 is quite adequate for deer. contrary to what the "expert" beer drinking, sloppy shooting, buck fever, road hunters keep regurgitating.
elithebrute 1 year ago
@JohnnyBoyCali In most states, it's legal to hunt deer with .223 centerfire ammo. If it couldn't kill a deer effectively, it wouldn't be legal. A good rule of thumb: If it can kill a man effectively, it can kill a deer in almost the same manor because many white tail deer have the same body mass as that of a man.
RandomPoolGuy84 1 year ago
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JohnnyBoyCali 1 year ago
@JohnnyBoyCali I won't argue that a .30 cal rifle is better suited at killing a man than a .223, but I've seen too many dead bodies killed by a M16, single shot, to say that the .223 is completely ineffective. If given a choice, I would select a .308 over a M16 any day. Besides, the .308 wasn't invented untill 1951 for the M1 conversions that would later become the M14. So it was always intended for killing men not deer.
RandomPoolGuy84 1 year ago
@JohnnyBoyCali i use a .243 every year to take down moose one shot everytime, im pretty sure a .223 could take out a deer,
wade239 1 year ago
@JohnnyBoyCali Use hollow points. If that deer doesn't drop, that deer must be on 'roids.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@GunWebsites
With 26" or 32" barrel it can be used to take down a deer at ranges uder 150 yards.But if it dont fragment then deer would die slowly :(
fonograf 1 year ago
@GunWebsites I was wondering as to all Mini's, (14's and 30's) is the front sight adjustable for elevation?
CombatMasterpiece 1 year ago
@CombatMasterpiece The front sight is a fixed iron sight
crazyhappyfool 1 year ago
@GunWebsites it would definately kill one if you hit head, heart or major artery. double lung shot would probly kill it but depends on your ammo. but i do know that 165gr .30-06 nosler ballistic tip drops em (=
littlecopeman 1 year ago
@GunWebsites
I have an older friend who has been hunting deer in north Florida for longer than ive known him using a .223 bolt action. Its all in shot placement, and he has stoned a few big bucks. Me i prefer my 30-06 or 308 where there is less of a chance of not stoning one and have to track it. Im a bit of a lazy hunter. But i do use .223 for anything smaller than deer. and i have a Mini 14 on the way to help aid in coyote control
appamatthis 1 year ago
@somedirtyangel Don't know if you've been keeping up with the news, but Ruger recently introduced a tactical Mini-30.
dumbbo1 1 year ago
@somedirtyangel you could kill a deer with a .22 if you wanted to just gotta be a good shot
MrMetalman13 1 year ago
@somedirtyangel 223 will take down a deer. I did it this past hunting season. I loaded up some 60grn Nosler partitions to arount 3000 fps and it did the trick.
buhrdt 1 year ago
@somedirtyangel dude deer have been taken with bamboo arrows(homemade) with a 45 lb bow ..you can kill a deer with a 9 mm round if u hit the kill spot (head,heart)..hell even a 22 will kill with perfect placement..its all about accuracy..
bassnman420 1 year ago
@bassnman420 Yeah, but I'm trying to kill for sport with a .22 or some bamboo bullshit. Think hunting, then eating. Yumm. Right? haha How about a .50 cal then I wont need to gut it
somedirtyangel 1 year ago
@somedirtyangel You can get the mini 30 with the blue finish steel and flash suppressor. and yes .223 can take down a deer, a 22 LR can.
MrZpurd 11 months ago
@somedirtyangel A .223 round can take down a deer if you hit it in the right spot for an instant kill shot, if not only one round will wound it and it will run off never to be seen again so id put a couple rounds in it to put her down good. personally i use a bolt action 30-06 for deer and a mini 14 for shooting targets and small rodents.
kramnahillac 9 months ago
@kramnahillac While I would never even consider trying it or recommend anyone to try it, at close range even a .22lr can take down a deer. As with most all things, it's all about placement.
corneredfox 8 months ago
@kramnahillac a 223 fmj through the hart stops a deer almost on spot but i use a 20ga shot gun witg a rifled barle
noahboa13000 7 months ago
@somedirtyangel the smallest round that is legally able to do it is the .243 and the mini 30 uses a .303 you can tell the difference. The .223 is to small to cause enough damage to take down a deer it is accurate enough but not enough take down power
vaill7 7 months ago
@vaill7 i took down 2 moose with a .223 ... one shot below the rib cage and the other with 1 shot on neck and heart ;)
RezdudeTechnologies 7 months ago
how much do mini-30 rifles cost?
james82221 1 year ago
@james82221 Check they're website.
Breakneckhydra1 1 year ago
I have that same tapco stock...you should get the forward grip and an accustrut...not only for added accuracy, but it also makes the weapon look much more aggressive.
scottandrewmalone 1 year ago
I saw the mini 14 was interested but this with a longer mag is awesome
psykedelicdude4 1 year ago
Did you buy your Mini-30 like that? If so where? If not tell me how to get one just like yours.
LER77 1 year ago
@LER77
it just has a Tapco stock on it
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@GunWebsites Yeah I took the time to actually listen instead of just looking. I googled a few distributors. THX.
LER77 1 year ago
@GunWebsites Quick question, where did u get the pistol grip for that?
lightningwu 1 year ago
@lightningwu its the tapco "intrafuse" stock system. i know that Cabelas sells them among other places.
slackingFox 1 year ago
@slackingFox thanks slackingfox. :) I found it about a day after I posted that comment. Went searching and found it on cabela's and a couple other sites, like cheaper than dirt. Best wishes
lightningwu 1 year ago
can this take down a deer?
soixe1997 1 year ago
@soixe1997
yes
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@GunWebsites Is there a conversion for AK mags for this?
ballisstix 11 months ago
@ballisstix not to hijack the subject but the answer is no. and mini mags are kinda pricey
davism4a1 10 months ago
@soixe1997 according to Wikipedia(which by the way is not a reliable source) says that the 7.62 x39 is commonly known as the poor man's deer cartridge due it the 7.62 x 39 has the equal power of 30-30. The SKS rifle is called the poor man's deer rifle as well as the MAK-90 Sporter but you can only use the five hunting magazines.
thuggiesmurff 1 year ago
@soixe1997
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JohnnyBoyCali 1 year ago
In a short 7 months, I will be able to purchase my very first gun! I am plagued with being a resident of California. Would you recommend this gun? The prerequisites of my first rifle would be that it must fire a very common round (either 5.56 or 7.62x39). Also the rifle must be extremely durable.
Unfortunately, due to my place of residency, I would be unable to purchase an Ak which would be more than happy to own.
Any recommendations for anyone would be appreciated!
GeneralBerger 1 year ago
@GeneralBerger Ya man get a mini. Tactical model has overmoulded stock without the pistol grip. You can still do the accurization stuff like the strut. I do not know if they're selling that model in CA because it has a flash hider. You can put an aftermarket one on your gun but be sure the product documentation says "MUZZLE BRAKE" like John Masen. That's how stupid the law is and YES, it has come down to that. You can only have a 10 round mag. Otherwise its just as good as a semi AK.
MisterAvis 1 year ago
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GeneralBerger 1 year ago
so its basically the assault rifle version of the M14/M21 EBR?
hskdsg 1 year ago
why Mini-14 get hot,compare to this mini-30..seems mini-30 looks great
mcbong10 1 year ago
Would you say that this model (Mini 30) is better than the Mini 14 chambered for the .223 Rem. round or am I asking for a comparison of apples to oranges?
logosphi 1 year ago
@logosphi, depends on what you're using it for. the 223 is a faster more accurate round but has low mass. if you're planning on shooting targets at 100+ yards or terrorizing your local varmints, the 223 is the way to go. the 762 is far more deserving of the title "ranch rifle", as the heavier round can take down deer, coyotes, fisher cats etc. for home defense similarly, the 762 is better. another thing to consider is 223 ammo is more expensive.
420Gregg420 1 year ago
its kinda like a m14
Scout1543 1 year ago
Ruger is selling factory 20 round mags for the mini 30 now, finally. I just got three and they look great and perform perfectly. Definitely going to get a few more of them.
ChopperCrank 1 year ago
@ChopperCrank
Sounds like a good thing to review, those are LONG awaited
GunWebsites 1 year ago
how much does this rifle cost?
spartanhero11 1 year ago
Does the AK-47 magazine, fit in the Ruger mini thirty.
masterjk 1 year ago
@masterjk
No but they do look kind of similar
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@masterjk no
ufloetz 1 year ago
damn i dont know if i'm going to get one in .223 or .308 or .06 damn
Sporkinator3 2 years ago
they dont come in .308 or .30-06, they do come in 7.62 x 39mm, which isnt .308, .308 is 7.62 x 51mm, and .30-06 is 7.62 x 63mm.
you arent going to find anything too cheap if your looking for a .308 carbine, try an AR10, or M1A (m14) if you have the money, the only semi automatic riflein .30-06 that is fairly easy to find would probably be either a B.A.R. or M1 Garand.
thats my two cents.
Dmajorproductions 1 year ago
@Dmajorproductions Saiga 308
gboyd242 1 year ago
ooh, good idea.
Dmajorproductions 1 year ago
@Dmajorproductions
Well I'd hate to argue with you but the 7.62x39 IS a .308 round (7.62 milimeters = .308 inches) but I understand that you were saying is that its not a .308 WINCHESTER. He was partially correct, but only in technicality.
GADeerHunter1 1 year ago
@GADeerHunter1 ok i guess i cant disagree with that.
peace
Dmajorproductions 1 year ago
@Sporkinator3 Save yourself some money and buy a SKS I hear they are more accurate to about the same.
ufloetz 1 year ago
Tapco is supposed to coming out with some aftermarket mags for them.
geepcj2a 2 years ago
@geepcj2a tapco mags aint worth the money. got one 4 my ak damn thing broke after a week
BigIceWolf90 1 year ago
if only ruger would come out with a good 30 rounder for the mini 30 i would go out and buy one tomorrow. love the grarand action, love the 7.62x39. but untill a good reliable mag comes around for it i am going with an ak.
dp665 2 years ago
What stock do you have on it? It doesn't look like the ATI stock.
NZComfort 2 years ago
I think that is a Tapco
GunWebsites 2 years ago
USA Magazines when you can find them are great in the 10rd and 30rd types very little issues. I just read that Ruger is releasing the 20rd factory mags for the Mini-30 now. A few years ago I read an article about a conversion kit to allow the use of AK47 mags but I have not been able to find the kit and Ruger does not sell the SEAL Trigger Assembly housing to anyone other than the SEALs I have tried even with Military credentials.
af22raptor23503 2 years ago
I don't believe that is a stock barrel. Was it accurized?
bizcotti9 2 years ago
not sure, sorry
I only saw that rifle once
GunWebsites 2 years ago
The guns aren't made for sustained or rapid fire- they get HOT fast, and accuracy suffers. They are hunting rifles. In addition you can't use the inexpensive surplus (steel cased) ammo, which makes it expensive to shoot an carbine that is 4X more than an SKS..., only thing going for them in my humble opinion is they are Rugers, and come in an all weather (stainless) finish.
evan13dam 2 years ago
why cant you use the steel cased ammo on the mini 30?
88arau 2 years ago
The surplus stuff is from overseas and uses a 'soft' primer and causes misfires and can screw up your firing pin. You have to use stuff like Winchester in it..
evan13dam 2 years ago
Ruger MINI-30 was created at the request of the US Navy Special Warefare Units better known as SEAL TEAMS as a weapon that SEALS can take into battle in places were a light foot print is required and they can use the Enemies Ammo and Mags. The SEAL version of the Mini-30 uses AK47 Mags and is a AUTOMATIC weapon. The only difference between the SEAL and commercial weapon is the trigger group assembly. The WEAPON can shoot auto. I have a mini30 circa 1994 that is AWSOME.
af22raptor23503 2 years ago
Another difference would be the AK magazines..(don't work in civilian minis), and I bet the firing pin was different to deal with the softer primers.
evan13dam 2 years ago
@evan13dam AK mags are never used in Minis..I ment, I went over to a whole other rife. I bought AKs both the 47 and the 74..had a 84 for a while also (5.56mm)
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
@evan13dam but anyway, the mini action is rock solid. Its basically a M1 Garand action and when its working right it will rock and roll with the best of them..as American as apple pie. Actions like these were used by the US military from the early 40s all the way up to the 70s..some US snipers still use it in modified M14s. As I said before the Mini was sensitve to mags though. Ruger factory was always the best but hard to get and DONT use any USA mag Pre-1992 or so. Old Ramline's suck too.
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
The Mini-30 can handle the Steel case but it best to use the brass case. I have cut trees with my Mini in quasi auto fire with Hellfire.
af22raptor23503 2 years ago
@evan13dam I had Mini 30 made somtime in the early 90s and I could really only get USA 30rd mags to work in it, other than that I had no problems at all. It would burn through even the cheapest steel case ammo i could find. As for "rapid fire problems" youre dead wrong. Many full-auto "minis" were made. The French Navy bought alot of them in the 70s.(stainless) I shoot mine unitl it bbl was almost red hot and it would be fine, accuracy was on par with other assult rifles.
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
Maybe, but the civilian ones are probably not made to the same specs..., somone else was saying the Seals had them so they could use mags and ammo from other places. Well, my AK mags don't fit in my mini..., and the firing pin must have been different to as I imagine they'd like a gun they can count on. My mini WILL jam, and misfire with surplus ammo every few magazines atleast..
evan13dam 2 years ago
@evan13dam . Im not sure what youre really talking about with the firing pin, Berdan priming in comboc ammo is harder than western boxer primed ammo but not by much. If you are having problems with your mini, something is wrong. Go have it checked out by a good gunsmith. When you say "jam" what do you mean? Failure to feed, fire, extract, ,eject or double-feed..what kind of "jam" are you talking about? each one is a different problem.
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junjojie 2 years ago
I have heard/read many good things about the mini 14. I like the mini 30 because of the larger caliber. Is the mini 30 as reliable and as good and the mini 14? What about accessories and magazines? I know there is lots for the mini 14.
CosmicGrooves 2 years ago
YES the Mini-30 is as reliable as the Mini-14 just have to be careful about the quality of the High Capacity mags 20rd and 30rd. Since the death of Bill Ruger the company is getting into the Tactical weapon arena and releasing the Factory Higher capacity of the Mini 14 and now the Mini 30 with both 20 and 30 round mags that were only available to Police and Government Agencies before.
af22raptor23503 2 years ago
For whatever it's worth Ruger will be offering 20 round factory magazines for the Mini-30. Buy a new 30 and you'll have the option of a 5 or 20 round mag. Maybe by Dec but for sure Jan you should be able to buy the Hi-Caps for your current Mini-30. Apparently they are finally listening to their customers.
SethVandenberg 2 years ago
The Issue was Bill Ruger he didnt believe is selling Tactical or ParaMilitary type weapons to the general public. The scope of the Company has been changing and I expect great things in the near future. Who would have thought that Ruger would have been making an AR15 type rifle 5 years ago? I am still waiting for the 308 win or 7.62x51mm NATO rifle similar to the M14 that was called the XGI in the mid-80s
af22raptor23503 2 years ago
i love the minis... but i heard there are some issues with finding reliable 30 round mags for it which is the only thing keeping me from getting one. the mini 14 is okay but if i want a .223 ill get an ar.
dp665 2 years ago
@dp665 I had a Mini 30 back in the90s, you had to use USA mags and they were a bit pricey, great rifle but in the end I went over to the AKs just becuse they were cheaper to buy mags and accesories for, but make no mistake, you can build a fine rig on a Mini platform, mine was classy as hell, wooden "Falcon Folder" stock and a HK style flash hider, really nice but in the end the AK was more practical and lighter. Mini30 was nice with handloads though, Nosler ballistic tips were good on deer.
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
For the price of a ruger-mini 30 i would rather just have a SKS with a tapco kit.
legato223 2 years ago
Yeah I agree, you can have two brand new sks's in tapco furniture for the same price a mini 30 with tapco stock and 100rnds would cost brand new.
Letsmakeasamich 2 years ago
Excellent review!
danbowski40 2 years ago
good video
360steven 2 years ago
Thanks for the video, i miss my mini30. They are actually great guns. Factory magazines are always the best to run in them but they are expensive.
dakine425 2 years ago
the factory mags are low-cap too, right?
I think if these used AK mags I'd own at least one
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Ruger does make 20 and 30 round magazines for the Mini-14. But I'm not sure what they make for the Mini-30.
SavageArms357 2 years ago
Yup only factory hi cap mags are for the mini14. Another thing i too is the mini30 i had didn't like steel case ammo. Had to use brass.
dakine425 2 years ago