First Christians: The house of St. John and St. Paul

[MsCapricorna]

i hate this girls voice

[AgApE010]

@katdanmo

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There was no Vatican in the first century. Peter died in Rome. And John lived and died in Ephesus.

[cloudsurfer007]

There was no Catholic Church in the first century. There were Christian Communities who were autonomous and differed in worship, organization & beliefs. There was no Pope. There were bishops elected by the people. Regional Councils decided policy. Today's Christian Church was created by Constantine as a State Religion. It was governed by 5 Patriarchs all having apostolic succession, and all being equal. Christianity took 1000 years to disintegrate into denominations. The early church was Jewish.

[cullyvan]

Theres no proof Paul was decapitated. No proof that he died at all. He might still be alive. Jeebus.

[SuperBoomboon]

@cullyvan exactly. paul dissapeared silently without leaving a clue.

EVERY Apostle left records of their deaths. authorities and followers report it. as it was super important at the time to bury them and also to the romans so that their deaths made exemplar punihments for the rest of the christians.

there isn´t a single document or even rumor on paul´s death. in the VI century the catholic church "proposed" beheading. yeah that´d sound cool .. false apostle paul creator of the roman church

[NikolaosP75]

The two individuals named as saint are fictitious characters. All those lives of "martyrs" were written many years after the periods they describe. Also from Julian's own writings but also from Libanius and Ammianus Marcelinus among others we know that Julian was not only tolerant of Christian but allowed all the bishops exiled by his predecessor Constantius to return to their towns.

Also Julian although Roman emperor never in his life went to Rome to condemn the two so called martyrs.

[gabi326jjk]

Julian the Apostate is my hero =) to be pagan in such a time takes courage, I admire him greatly

[davemakesawave]

What about the Old Testament and Acts, Luke and Mark, Romans and other writings of Paul? The Bible came together from many different authors; the only consistent thread in it is the Holy Spirit guiding the authors.

[jesujoyofmansdesirin]

I wonder why some people who believe any imagery is idolatry don't complain about pictures such as the praying Christian.