Meet the Ancestors - Porsche 911 Turbo - by Autocar.co.uk

[ecclescakes1]

Excellent idea, comparing the old and the new. If you can tell me where I can buy a 993 Turbo with 46K miles on it for under £40,000 I'm all ears! It just can't be done!

[Desmonddd2002]

i jut realized the 993 turbo has exactly the same power as the new Carrera GTS so it is safe to assume in 13 years time the Carrera GTS (presume its still here) would have 500-525 bhp?

[indigoblue555]

@Desmonddd2002 I guess that the trend of constantly increasing power won't be working in the future because of an evolution of targets in the car market as well as in the sport cars segment."Performance" will be changing its meaning over all....Btw speed and pollution restrictions are getting more and more frustrating and this trend

will be kept on.

[blues03]

Looked like he really had fun around the track this time.

[TheReasonableLogic]

Which one would you pick, the one with the soul, or the one with features? Soul for me.

[1wide9111]

993 is much simpler car (air cooled) and lighter. throw a bigger turbos on, re-map, and you have a 500 hp beast for under 5g in upgrades

[boang007]

They both look the same can't tell the difference. :)

[monsterenergy713]

If you died right now are you 100% sure you'd go to heaven?

[GrotrianSeiler]

993...much nicer car. No question.

[10water]

what a terrible review

[Imranbadmash]

993 Turbo still looks better from the front than the latest 911s...

[DrJCCC20]

waitin a 998 porsche either way i love both of em

[Philx4xFar]

I laugh when staunch japanese or american car fans stick their noses up at the Turbo, saying it's slow and overpriced. What they don't realize is it was built to embarrass italian and other exotics worth double the price! No matter what generation 911 Turbo, you're still getting one epic car.

[sukh126]

@Philx4xFar same thing when people say it looks like a vw beetle, i mean from which angle does it look like a beetle

[unknownunknowns]

@Philx4xFar The second part of your statement is what we all can agree with and now the embarrasser is being embarrassed when compared with the 'Vette, Viper, and Nissan GTR at half the price! Maybe, the Cayman should succeed the 911.

[TangoR34]

993 turbo all the way.

[coolerdude44]

great, now i want a 993 911 turbo. someone lend me the $60,000 necessary to buy one pl0x

[oarih94]

actually, i believe the 997 turbo is capable of 200 mph. jeremy clarkson did it in his thriller film

[porscha69]

the 911 are always a bit faster than what porsche claims ! trust me !

[coolerdude44]

i remember he said "i reckon that with a bit of a gradient we can get it to 200".

he was going downhill.

[TangoR34]

yea but speedos are always few miles off, if you look at the motortrends top speed run, their speedo points over 200 but it's not in reality

[LP640ROADSTERdk]

It was on the speedo, and speedos generally are off a bit, overestimating often at about 5 %, so he was prolly only going 190 or so

[hawkzzter]

I also don't place the 996 as high as the others. I like the 964s the most, then 997 then 993.

[eminzide]

yup, 964 are the best looking 911 ever!!!!

[Joke9972]

The 996 was a big mistake. Now they are there again.

[AhmedNSX]

@ Joke9972,

well if 996 Gen was a mistake, I wonder what got Jeremy Clarkson (President of the Anti 911 club) to place the 996 Turbo at #2 in his top 100 cars of the 20th century?, I think that the 996 Turbo's look better then 997 TT's and I think that a 2005 Turbo S is as good as a 06-09 TT and I'd pick a 996 Turbo S over an 06-09 TT any day even though I am a 993 fan.

[paikmendez]

i love the 993 as well. even the 964 exudes a certain charm that the 993 lacks.

[DionysisX]

I LOVE the colour on this 993!!!

[eminzide]

lovely colour innit..... only on air-cooled 911s...

[DionysisX]

Actually, a similar, if not the same one, color is available now on the 997 Turbo MkII...And it's amazing!!!

[dimstriple]

993 for me is probably the best 911. Last air cooled, 959 looks, very fun to drive even the simple carrera. From 996 something changed with porsche, more convertional cars I could say....

[farnsworth14]

You would all be nazi slaves without us.

[TwoStallions]

I own a 997 Turbo and recently had a remap to 550BHP. If you think the standard car is fast...............

[turnerflux]

Yeah and me..

[a320x]

England and Ireland.

[djscratch39]

nice car i'll add it to me xmas wish list haha

[kingk212]

both are beautiful

[kelloggcerealxoxo]

i'll take both...

[dsmsucks]

go 993. I loved that car since I first played need for speed lol

[Petux]

Brilliant cars! But the steering wheels are on the wrong side. :D

[qwerty123456789jhdtg]

Hmmyeah, even the British must admit that Porsches are great. Their high-performance cars are usually much more expensive, less efficient (too big engines, they don't understand some things).

[FirzenRyuu]

In europe they have cars that have the steering wheels on the right side. US they have on the left.

[Petux]

Oh my god! Do you really think so? If you do then americans are stupid. :S

Haven't you heard about european countries like England, Germany, Spain, France, Portugal, Poland etc. In europe there are very many countries but only one of them uses cars that have steering wheel on the right. It's England and this video is made in England. Hope you get the point!

[FirzenRyuu]

I was replying to some1 else, if your being a sarcastic smartass, then stfu im not talking to you. If not then, i said europe in general since i didnt know which european country used right side steering wheels.

[Petux]

I'm sorry for being a smartass. But if you think most of europe uses right hand drive cars, then you are another american dumass! You stfu when you don't know shit.

[saweet999]

lol u americans are dumb

[geforce5700fx]

The 993 is nicer but the 997 is no more ugly car  !!!

[1973MaseratiBora]

I'll take the 993 thank you.

[pabauza]

993 is still the pretiest 911

[snipski0894]

@pabauza The pretiest new 911 but not the prettiest

[13katana]

Why they change the 911 to 997 993 933 whatever, i just don't get it. 911 it's an ikon change it back, anyone feel me...

[SkylineRacer13]

It is still call the 911 the 993, 996, 997 are the series similar to the Nissan Silvia their is the S12, S13, S14

[MacAppleJack]

What a classic!!!! 933 the best 911 turbo ever

[elmataplata]

930 FTW

[sobchuk]

I still love the 993. It has all the right curves in the right places. Now that it's getting on a decade old, I can finally manage to own one hahaha. I still have always love the 951s, basically because they look understated and not too many people realize they are a Porsche. With a 911, everyone knows it's a Porsche and they're either for you, or against you. At least that's what I've found after owning a few Porsches. The 997 though... well that's the epitome of a 911 today.

[Towelman20]

What i like about the 911 turbo is that it's easier to live with and more practical than most other supercar's.

[FWQR3T]

993 looks so good nothing like a beetle to tell the truth.

[PATTYZ102]

did the 993 really do 60 in 3.7

[hfcollins]

i know all you hardcore fanboys are going to bitch me out for this, but to me, all porsches look like hopped-up volkswagen beetles on steroids.

[paultje2small]

lol just imagine the way they look :P

[scratchy996]

any real hardcore fanboy (proud owner of a 996 C2 ) knows the history of the 911 and loves the fact that they look like a hopped-up Volkswagen beetle on steroids.

Ferdinand Porsche built the original Beetle and his son turned one into a sportscar , the 911 is an evolution of the original.

[hfcollins]

well thats a burn on me then aint it?

btw... got nothin against porsche -- actually quite adore the 911turbo, just think that if im gunna spend over 100grand on a car, im gunna want something a bit more shouty and intimidating, but that's just me ;)

[TigerSupercatE1]

whats wrong with that =D :-P i like the beetle lol

[mryup]

ya you got that from clarkson on top gear...biter

[dogeatscrap]

They are what you say.. And they LOVE it.. Nice try "hfcollins", ol' boy... Good to see the internet has affected your vocabulary. "fanboy"? Man, that's gay..

[hfcollins]

"fanboy' is the perfect word to describe most of the ppl commenting on this video, this isn't an intellectual discussing, its where teenagers who dream about owning supercars can go run their mouth thinking they know what they're talking about, btw ur name "dogeatscrap" some how gives me the impression that u dont own a porsche and most likely fall perfectly under the definition of a 'fanboy'

[dogeatscrap]

Collins, all you prove here is that your debating abilities are on par with the average virgin who yanks it to 'World of Warcraft' screen shots.. The idea of me owning a Porsche can give you whatever impression you please... fanboy.

[hfcollins]

what you just said doesn't make any sense. i simply made the point that most of the people watching and commenting on this video (most likely urself, especially when ur name is 'dogeatscrap') can be categorized as a 'fanboy'. you reply by saying my debating skills are equivalent to an "average virgin who yanks it to 'World of Warcraft' screen shots." well thanks for dumbing down the conversation with that immature remark!

[hfcollins]

i think all we've concluded from this little conversation is that you are a very immature 'fanboy' (see my above definition if ur still confused).

btw, im not some 16yr old smart ass trying to earn brownie points with any mature readers of these posts, i am 23 years old studying medicine at the university of toronto (just so we are clear on my maturity level)

pwnd.

[dogeatscrap]

Dude.. first of all, we can all see that you used the word 'fanboy' in a serious manner.. That alone destroys any credibility you may have had. Second, if you think you have to tell us of your studying medicine to prove how mature you are, you've already lost the battle... It doesn't matter what anyone else says or how many times you click the " -1 thumbs down " on my comment. Good luck with your Canadian medicine endeavors, eh...

[hfcollins]

well thanks for admitting defeat:)

[dogeatscrap]

You think I've admitted defeat simply because I wished you well. Wow, your brain is amazing.. unfortunately, not the good kind of amazement. Thank YOU for obviously not comprehending any more than 40% of what I've said to you.. If you practice medicine with that brain, many Canadian patients will die. How do you say 'malpractice' in French-Canadian?

[sharpanator]

i think the 911 looks totally different then the beetle. The 993 looks pretty good even today i must say and one of the good things about POrsche, they will never look really old, a perfect car to get old with if you dont waste it as a all day car

[aboessam123]

i dont

[porsche911gt3]

IMO 996 is the best-looking of the lot, but all Porsches look great to me anyway!

[speedycatz]

Well, most people prefer the 993 styling, but I still prefer 964 Turbo S 3.6.

[nmsQ]

I think I agree, such an aggressive looking beast that, rare car.

[trevtrash]

I own a 911 carrera 3.2 and will never part with it, had it for 13 years now, but drove a 993 Turbo at the weekend for the first time....WOW... this car is a monster and I am used to driving fast. As the man said how fast do you want to go....this is fast enough it was awsome.

[Kheops63]

Porsche fans (as I am) do prefer the 993 type, because it has lot of curves and because it is the last air-cooled engine in the 911: sound is famous! but the 997 is easier to drive! it is all about choice!

[skbuoy]

There is a saying "old is gold". Some cars are just timeless

[waihung]

damn, the 993 is still fast even for today's standard.

0-60 in 3.7 secs.

[TTRzermatt]

beast of a car... most of them will not do that now though because of how much the engine has been used

[TheNanosam]

@waihung watch the video of BMW e30 20 years and they cut 2.4 sec form 0-60 but the Porsche 15 years and they cut 0.6 sec in the new 997 turbo s

[TheNanosam]

 @waihung watch the video of BMW e30 20 years and they cut 2.4 sec from 0-60 but the Porsche 15 years and they cut 0.6 sec in the new 997 turbo s

[Subzero288]

This doesn't give a lot of information. They blew a great opportunity to really delve into the differences in handling, braking, road-feel, stability, fuel consumption, build quality, materials, maintenance and other important issues. The narrator spends 1/2 the time talking about the car's SIZE. Who cares?

[zasubg]

The presenter is sooooooooooo lame

[jamminmurken]

yeah but the new one is so much nicer looking.

[exc911ence]

Negative, the 993 was the ultimate in 911 styling.

[vikingwoman73]

cooool

[jamiebridges123]

997 one for me, overall it's perfect for today. Easy to drive, comfy, well equipped with good build quality :D

[mrjost55]

Damn I wish they compared them on a track instead of just talking about size and weight. Still, very cool comparison.

[royalwww]

old is gold

[campanozzi55]

Yep you are right

[dcengland]

this is one of the best comparison tests ive ever seen

[scorpio1066]

so after all that what exactly does the older one produce now days (hp) considering age as we know not many cars still produce the same factory power 10 years on unless modded or very well maintained etc etc -

and what is the older 0-60 time now days. useless clip gave nothing away

[JaySee5]

I'm surprised they mentioned that it was the first AWD 911, but they didn't mention that it was the last air-cooled 911.

[wateva606]

so wat ur sayin if sum 1 were to giv u an option of a brand new 997 turbo or a 993 turbo for free u would pick the old 993 i never hav seen any 1 say that befor

[QuantumStep]

I agree with SixhunderHP

[lesmcluffalot]

Kewlios

[jo05dk]

Not much of a test ey? one would have expected some sort of hands on comparison, but there's almost nothing there.

Better luck next time. I normally rly love your vids:)

[benpowellfforddlas]

my dads got the 997!!!

it's like all the rides in alton towers in one driving this bad boy!

[fesch03]

my dad teached me not be a fucking douchebag !!

[jo05dk]

I'm confused.. As far as i can figure out, the guy actually praises the Porsche, and someone gives him thumbs down..

Have i misunderstood something, or are the raters a bit stupid? Comparing a car to a bunch of amusement thingies, can't be a bad thing.

[FenderUsa]

jealousy XD

[biglandfarm]

why tiptronic?

[Senzuri007]

sexy.