For those who believe slaves where non-Turks and mamlukes were Ossetians and other Caucasians: A Mamluk (Turkish: Memlük, also called Kölemen; Arabic: مملوك (singular), مماليك mamālīk (plural), "owned"; also transliterated mamlouk, mamluq, mamluke, mameluk, mameluke, mamaluke or marmeluke) was a soldier of slave origin, often of Turkic ancestry[1].
R1a is an indo-european gen marker. The fact that Kyrgyz have this gen, too, just show how Turkic nations emerged. From altayic and Indo-European people. Your words can not mess with science and biology. Get some education. Beside that, the name Kyrgyz self is even not of Turkic origin, but possibly of Indo-European which means 40. Quatre, Qarante, Chahar, Quatro, Quader, Qartet ..etc .. all of them have to do with 4 and 40. Kyrgyz means 40girls, directing an origin of many tribes
Mongols and Uyghur are great People but I do not have the same thoughts about Anatolian Turkish, scumericanos, scum han chinese, scum pakistanis, scum arabs
modern Turks are not the same as they were for 1500years ago. The so-called first turkic dynasty, the gok-turks, where in fact no Turks but tocharians from a tribe called ashina. the term turk was adoptet by later altayic tribes to designate themself with this leading tribe.
Modern Turks are a mixed of Iranians, Arabs, Europeans etc. Just take the Anatolian Turks as example. They are by language Turkic but by genetical origin and history non-Turks. Only 7%, mostly living in the mountains relatively ''isolated'' can trace their origins to real ethnical ''Turks'', altayic poeple. Modern Anatolian people are descandants of all kind of Muslims that flooded Anatolia during the Mongols, Iranians, Arabs, even europeans like Bulgarians. All of them adoptet Ottoman lang.
@Jimlead Take the Austrians or Bavarians, Bulgarians or Bosnians, Magyars or Lithuanians, Poles or Saxons, Serbs or Ukrainians, Czechs or Croats, Burgundians or Catalans…. Nearly all of them blue-eyed and fair-haired (exact replicas of the ancient Turkic men and women), and all blissfully oblivious of their common roots.
Turks are Mongolids. They are no ''blue eyed'' or ''blond''. If there are blue eyed Turks than because someone in the ancestory was not a Turk but a foreigner. That was in the case of Djingis Khan, a Mongol, who was descriped by his Persian court writer as red haired and green-eyed which indicates that one of his ancestors may belonged to a non-Mongol tribe, possibly Scythian/Sacae or even Tocharian.
Why are you talking about Turks like that, when you are not turk, you know nothing about us, we are not Mongols. mongol Populition is about 20 million and there are more then 300 million Turks in the world, so shut up and stop making Propaganda against turk.
where did I said Turks are Mongols? Turks and Mongols are two different groups. Beside that, there are ca. 180 mio Turkic* people, to say it better and correct, Turkic-speaking people. If you look Mongolide and your origin is in Central Asia or China you can call yourself a Turk and possibly your ancestors were ''ethnical'' Turks but take the Uygurs are example. They are descandants of Iranians, Tocharians and Turks. That´s explain thei physical features. From Caucasian to Mong.
Turks claim a lot for themself knowing that they had nothing to offer to the world like great Indo-European civilisasations (Greec, Indian, Roman, Persian, Chinese, Arab) . This thinking arose first in the first years of the last century when Ata Turk, a albano-bosnien Jew, was propagating a lot of non-sense. Till today, not even a single claim of Turks are accepted or respected by any scholar. That´s the greatest shame but it seems Turks do not have a bit shame.
@Leader2OO7 Google for "Y-Haplogroup_R1_distribution.png" and have a look at the first map and see the SCIENTIFIC REALTIY OF MODERN DAY SCIENCE OF 2011. Your world view will be SHOCKED.
LOL R1A, a genetical marker for Indo-Europeans ... .. you lost boy... Turks did not even existed before 1800 years ago ... and even if than they were nomads... not having any civilisation, culture etc ,. that´s why they were known as barbarian in ancient and middle-age ... barbarian people .. goat-milk drinking people.
Turan does not mean ''Turk''. It was used in the Avesta and Ferdowsi to designate ''Aryans'' who did not belong to a settled community and had not zoroastrianism as religion. Nomads and the settlements had already struggles with eachother. That is the strongest message of Avesta. The nomads, the wild barbarians, soldiers and servants of Ahriman (devil and opponent of Ahura->God of light) vs ''Aryans'' (Settlements and Zoroastrians. 'Iran and AnIran' -> Aryan (nobility) and un-Aryan
But the Persians, Tajiks, eastern-Tajiks, the Pamiris etc. ..thse people who are responsible and are direct descandants of those Aryans still live. Look for Latif Pedram, Ahmad Shah Massud, Rabbani.
@Aterkomsten There's a 6'6'' Indo-European male mummy with blond hair, and a gold plate face mask that strangely is exactly Greek. He was extremely well preserved, meaning great care was taken. It's obvious that he was worshiped.
golden masks was commonly among Central Asian´s and Iranian population widely spreade. The Chinese, Tocharians, Romans, Greecs, Burushkos etc. had them, too. Search for ''Ancient Persian Warriors''
Similarities means nothing. Old Iranian goddes and Greec Zeus did looked the same and had the same attributes but they were not the same, but had possibly the same origine (Indo-Germanic - Kurgan?). Beside that, masks, from America to Japan have the same forms and look similar.
Aryans were indeginous to the foothills of Himalayas between Indus (Sindhu) river and , Saraswati river (Now mostly dissappeared due to tectonic movement) and there is recorded proof in the Vedas , hte ancient scriptures, of Hindus. In fact there is no religion as Hindu , it is the way of life of Aryans. All the people who lived in (s)indhu or indus river. Arabic people pronounced them Hindus.i.e the religion of Aryan was and of Hindus is Sanatan Dharam which means eternal religion. For all
Aryans were not native to India and did not only moved to India. The majority kept in Central Asia, Middle East and Anatolia and some even moved to north Africa (Tunesia, Egypt) or eastern Europe. The modern Indian population is a mixture of pre-Aryan dravidian population and later invaders, such Turks, Mongols, Tibetans, Indo-Aryans and to smaller part surely Tocharians (at least in Kashmir).
so modern Indians are the inbreed of a Dravidian-Caucasian relationship? All DNA references indictae their home in eastern Europe. The Weda and the Avesta, all of them describe the Aryans as people from north wandering in new lands. 65% of all male Indians show a strong native pre-Indo-European ancestory to Indian.
@Leader2OO7 No matter where the "Aryans" originated from, the R1A genetic component relates to the people (Indo-Iranians) who called themselves "Aryans" as well as to Baltic-Slavic people. The R1a component is greater in north India, Eastern Europe and amongst Kyrgyz and other such people. R1a component is lesser amongst population of Iran. What would you say to that? Most of the Europeans population including Germans are pre-Aryan origins and therefore not Aryan origins.
The R1a was a result of mutations among nomads who possibly intermarried with eachother and are mostly seen among Iranians, particularely among Tajiks (64%) and interestingly also among Kyrgyz (65%). Kyrgyz were originally an indo-european people before became assimilated by the Turko-Mongolians but they still claim beeing of Indo-European origine, see also theirn name which is non-Turkic. R1a is lesser found in western Iran, region between Irak, Kurdistan and Khuzistan.
This migration assimilated and replaced the Indo-Europeans of the region to create a distinct identity,[9] as the Altaic languages and culture of the Turkic migrants eventually supplanted the original Indo-European influences. This fluid definition of Uyghur and the diverse ancestry of modern Uyghurs are a source of confusion about what constitutes true Uyghur ethnography and ethnogenesis.
Throughout history, the term Uyghur has taken on an increasingly expansive definition. Initially signifying only a small coalition of Tiele tribes in Northern China, Mongolia, and the Altay Mountains, it later denoted citizenship in the Uyghur Khaganate. Finally it was expanded to an ethnicity, whose ancestry originates with the fall of the Uyghur Khaganate in the year 842 AD, which caused Uyghur migration from Mongolia into the Tarim Basin.
In comparing the DNA of the mummies to that of modern day Uyghur peoples, Victor H. Mair's team found some genetic similarities with the mummies, but "no direct links", concluding that the mummies are Caucasoid; that East Asian peoples "began showing up in the eastern portions of the Tarim Basin about 3,000 years ago... while the Uighur peoples arrived after the collapse of the Orkon Uighur Kingdom, largely based in modern day Mongolia, around the year 842."[9]
Uyghur activists identify with the Tarim mummies, but research into the genetics of ancient Tarim mummies and their links with modern Uyghurs remain controversial, both to Chinese government officials concerned with ethnic separatism, and to Uyghur activists concerned that research could affect their claims of being indigenous to the region.[10][11]
were the so-called aryans the only blue-eyed, reddish blond-haired people in the planet ? the stupid europian racism put this crappy idea into the modern world ! they´d better stop dreaming about these mummies. these mummies are old Uyghurs. Uyghurs have got a very great history much more longer then "aryans" and all of TRUE aryan races descended from Uyghur forefathers.
Your forefathers were Turks. Modern Uygurs just conquered the region that once was not populated by Turks. The Tocharians were assimilated into the Turkic-speaking community who btw, where lesser by number but military powerful. A military dominance over a language was the cause that modern Uygurs speak Turkic. However, Uygur´s claim on these people for every era before the 9th century is not correct. They just suffer under an ID crisis
everyone is wrong, except you loser. The entire world historians, scientists, DNA studies are all wrong, only the claim of some IDless people who seek an identity and a deep root in modern Tarim Basin are right. Get serious!
Scientific proof of Aryan lineages creating Civilization. Along with the recent DNA tests on the Egyptian mummy King Tut, proving that his lineage was also Aryan. The Aryans brought the boost needed to create Art, Pyramids, and Beauty everywhere they migrated.
This is the political view from the 20th century. The real ''ethnical'' Aryan is of Caucasian origine and have mostly soft-dark eyes and dark hair. The earliest ancestors of modern Indo-germanic speaking Europeans who came from the Caucasus region were mostly racial like modern Tajiks and Iranians and belonged to the Corded Nordic racial people, or shortly, ''Iranid-like'' people.
they ''died out'' because they interminggled with new immigrants. The Tocharians did not only lived in Western China or Ganzu. They were living also in parts of Sibiria and intermiggled with Proto-Mongolian tribes. The same happened later when Turks arrived in their country in China. Many also moved to Central Asia, modern Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even India. The Indians know them as part of the Kamboya ''Aryans'' of Kabul under Turushka
Turks are Mongolid. Tocharians were ''Caucasian''. Modern Uygurs are not pure Turks, but a mix of Iranian, Turks, Tocharians, a pocket of Arabs and Chineses.
It appears many wish to claim these ancient caucasoid wonderers, the language and clothing, like tartan, might even suggest a Celtic tribal origin (though most went west from the ancient Ukraine pushed by their western Scythian neigbours who influenced them) ; though the Scythians or Saka may have been more Iranic in origin. It remains a mystery.
Because large part of the world, specially in Middle East and Asia, is made of deserts. Near Oases could civilisation grow at first, because people were forced to change their hard and pathetic life to a better life. In europe, only Greecs can be mentioned as the earliest civilisiation, at least the minoic civilisation
Huns were a confederation of Proto-Turks, Proto-Mongols, various Iranian tribes like the Alans, possibly even Tocharian tribes and the west Gots, a germanic tribe of Europe.The Huns were not a homogene people. They were a confederation of different tribes with different origines, something not unusual for nomads and specially for the ancient people.
There is also the lost legion of the roman army who lost in the desert after a battle in the East. Their descends still live in China. They are blonde and white.
I know this doesn't have to do with this videos but it 's something interesting. :)
Incredible textiles for that era. keep in mind there were possible also Asian or Chinese traders visiting Western Europe but their remains have decayed and forgotten
I read an article from Science. And it was about a Chinese, possibly a slave, who was found in a tomb in Italy. The tomb was more than 1800 years old.
''Finns'' are not Indi-Europeans. They speak not even an indogermanic language..but these people did.
For some Uygurs. Uygurs are descandants of Turks and Mongols settling in the 9th and 10th century in southwestern China. Modern Uygurs are not identical with the original Indogermanic population of China. They were close related cultural and ethnical with their neighbours to whom they interminggled for centuries but modern Uygurs have just absorbed them but Uygurs are not ''Tocharians''.
The 4000 years old mummies can´t also be ''uyguric''..what a pathetic people these Turks are. Just take a deep look on the features of the people. They are described as ''caucaside'' (''Aryanic''), while Uygurs, like most Turks are mongolid or at least mixture of mongolid and caucasid race but majority show a mongolid feature.
Pathetic Turks built Seljuk (lived more than 250 years) and Ottoman (lived than 600 years) Empires. And they have created their own huge cultures which others (non-pathetics?) could not created .... never ever...
cakirkus, interesting, it is new for me to see that Iranian civilisation was taken by Turks even to Vienna and now you claim those adoptet from Iranian peoples by barbarian nomadic Turks as Turkish heritage. Come on, Turks had nothing, have nothing and won´t have anything. Even within the OTTOMAN empire non-Turks were the ones who were known for beeing people of pen, science etc. The ottoman sultans were ashamed and took it as an insult if someone called them Turks. That´s reality, not dreamsy
@cakirkusu How about the Mamluks and Janissaries? Those warriors were taken from slaves of non-Muslim origins and they practically built the Arabic world we know today. How about Sokollu Mehmed Pasha? He was Grand Vizier who was de-facto ruler of Ottoman Empire for nearly 15 years. He was born in Serbian peasant's family. Still want to keep talking about who created huge Turkish culture?
Mamluks were Turkic slaves, serving for Persians and their vezirs. Later, they were given to the Abbasids as gifts. In slavrey, they were thought how to read, write, management, poetry, military etc. Not to use the Iranic people or Persians, the Iranians used many often these Turkic slaves as soldiers, same as Abbasids. The Ghaznavids were of Mamluke origine and former slaves of Persian Samanids, Tahirids, Saffarids, Farighunids, Sassanids etc.
@Leader2OO7 To the uploader, there is no "Indo-Germanic" subgroup. Also, Centum and Satem were not branches of Indo-European. They were sound changes that occurred independently of branches. Just like the guttural R spread from French (a Romance language) to German, but not to Italian which is more closely related to French.
Satem and Centum was the result of sound changing that occured some 5000 BC, thus, we use in Linguistic the words Satem and Centum Branch...both means hundred and both have the same roots.
Also, it's ironic that you mention Germans, Celts, and Greeks, who have very low frequencies of R1, to be related to the Tocharians whose mummies were found to be very high in R1a...
Mair claims that "the earliest mummies in the Tarim Basin were exclusively Caucasoid, or Europoid" with east Asian migrants arriving in the eastern portions of the Tarim Basin around 3,000 years ago while the Uyghur peoples arrived around the year 842.[14] In trying to trace the origins of these populations, Victor Mair's team suggested that they may have arrived in the region by way of the Pamir Mountains about 5,000 years ago.
@Leader2OO7 , This evidence remains controversial. It refutes the contemporary nationalist claims of the present-day Uyghur peoples who claim that they are the indigenous people of Xinjiang, rather than the Han Chinese. In comparing the DNA of the mummies to that of modern day Uyghur peoples, Mair's team found some genetic similarities with the mummies, but "NO DIRECT LINKS WITH UIGURS!!! DNA of mummies is 1Ra - like modern Ukrainians and Russians:-)".
@SS16backup so... tell me a difference between "Finn", "German" and "Slavic" ... only in a little bit different types of Haplogroups perhaps, but they are all white... with other words; differences are only in language
i will reveal tho those "Chinese caucasian mummies" were... they were ancient rulers called "Khans"
Chinese are also white but called because of the political rascism of the 19th and 20th century as ''Yellow Race''. Germanic and Slavic tribes have the same roots as Iranic and Romanic tribes have ....and thus are historical ''brothers'' and speak a sister language to eachother.
I am amazed at the spin they put on this documentary - they are so happy that the Caucasians co-existed with the Mongolians, and even intermarried with them. Don't they realize that that is why there are no Caucasians left in China! When races intermarry, they commit genocide. The race that is in the majority will simply absorb the other race, and it will leave practically no trace. A few asians with blond hair is all that is left. I think this is a tragedy.
it is the whites who loves mixing with us asians (well can't blame them) so whenever there is a white-asian interacial couple then the white one is to blame
You are an idiot. For 1000 years ago things like racism was not existing and people, folks and tribes interminggled with eachother to survive. The nomadic Uygurs were absorbed by the Irano-Tocharian population of China, not the other way round. That´s why Uygur language have many Tocharian and Iranic vocabulary, why they have a non-Turkic culture and why they even have indogermanic myths of their origine. The same goes for Tajiks who absorbed many waves of Tocharians in Bactria, Samarkand ...
@Leader2OO7 To say racism did not exist 1000 years ago proves you need to just not post comments anywhere on anything. You are an uneducated moron and should invest in some common fucking sense.
@Leader2OO7 Racism has ALWAYS existed. Its not like America and the Blacks started the trend. Racism is part of the human mind and began the first time a human started using his brain. Just because races mated....doesn't mean they got along. It probably meant rape during battle. Therefore the race got mixed....on and on etc. Persecution of races has always been around even in ancient times.... slaves forced to sleep with their owners...and again the races mixed due to lack of birth control
@Leader2OO7 , well, Ugurs were NOT absorbed by Arian Tocharians - rather muslim Uigurs ivaided and murdered all the white men and took tocharian women as concubine. As it is typical with Islam - the religion and customs of pre-islamic time were considered to be NULL und were illuminated. The Tocharian mummies showed DNA 1Ra - like today people in Ukraine (the highest percent of DNA, russia, poland and a bit in Germany and Sweden). Today uigurs - mongolo-turkish people with OTHER DNA!
The r1a is also found among Kyrgyz and Tajiks (65%). The Kyrgyz are a Turkic-speaking people of Central Asia and have mostly an Asian feature but their name seems beeing of Indo-european background.
@Leader2OO7 according to legends.... our people Uyghurs used to built the greatest cities on the earth, 8000 years ago our people arrived India before Aryans came to India. they started agriculture before than any other nations. But Change in Climate of Central Asia forced our ancestory to move out from Cties and became nomad.
Yeah, according to legends ...that´s the point..created lies and myths to create a history ...a policy first established at the beginning of the 20th century....by it´s father Ata Turk, a blue-eyed bosnian jew from north-eastern Greec who wanted to erase any ottoman identity among so-called Turkified and Islamized Greecs, Albanians, Arabs, Kurds etc. Turks were always Nomads and had nothing to do with civilisations. Lies, slanders and propagandas. 2mio armenian victims.
@Leader2OO7 Racism existed from the time MAN EXISTED! Cannibalism was a way of life when one tribe would rape & eat the other. When a set of Caucasian people the Aryans became civilized stopping this evil practices. Aryan means civilized. Central Asia was part of the Aryan home land when mongoloid cleansed the lands of the aryans-civilized. Mongoloid people were ruthless, yet most powerful, have to agree no doubt. They succeeded in ethnically cleansing the land of Aryans. They used to harass all
What nonsense is that? People have always mixed - and what is the "blame" ???
Maybe it's just because you have prejudice about us "whites"?
So maybe you are the racist here?
We in Europe are aware that we have our roots far away in the East and are closely related to the people who live there ( N. India, Iran, Afgh.), as can also be seen in our languages - most people here when told find this extremely fascinating.
@bannelingboer I dont think soooo...... I went to china, many of them dont look chinese like their mongolian neighbours..... their women even have big boobies...
@bannelingboer Just because they intermarried and left no trace of their Caucasian traits does not imply that there was a genocide. Intermarriage is not genocide dude.
When I travelled to central Asia I have seen asian people with blond hair and blue eyes, but they look asian (mongoloid) how? Because central asia is in between europe and china...people are mixed there...in central asia people and culure are mixed (middle eastern + european + asian, etc.)
we had 1000 years problem to use the latin letters, how to write down the hungarian (magyar) texts....13 sound is not in the latin alfabet: cs, gy. ty. ly, á é ü, ű ö ő
@Leader2OO7 that is very interesting for us, that our runes are somewhere in the middle, if you compare it to other ones.
And nowodays many says the writing went to mezopotamia from the carpatian basin. Many clay tablets were found that are told to be the ancestor of the sumer writing...
@Leader2OO7 I also heared that acc. to the chenese scientists the chinese writing is originated to the huns.
Look et our f letter in the runic alfabet. föld is earth or ground. but the symbol in the chinese writing of the earth is the same as our f letter!!! or very-very similar!
Dear Sir! Where are you from because what you say it is very interesting!
I am not historian but I notice one thing.
Our dialect and part of our nation called Székely...ly thank for the latin we have run for this. é also . More and more proves show the huns were their ancestors!!!
The legends, the runic writing: Székely-magyar rovásirás!! If I read sacaes it is very very similar to my ear székely!!!!
@Leader2OO7 Mcihelangelo Naddeo says these people went to mezopotamia, and later to the Tarim basin.
And the writing and bronz and the wheel was founk by them even before the Sumer civiliztion. Shortly speaking, the ancestor of the sumers were from the carpationa basin.
@Leader2OO7 Thank you for your but one comment I would like to add....You forgot a nation from central europe who speak also not indo european lenguage, and his runic writing is equal that was found in Tuva.....18 runes from 22. And more and more say that the writing was found by a civilisation in carpatian basin and when the indoeuropeans arrived, thy left europe!!!
Because "Europeans" are Asians in disguise. You killed your cousins-the native Americans. Haplogroups P Q N O are related more so than you are related to native swedish. You brought you highly advanced proto-culture which probably developed in Asia too, and killed all the natives in Europe. Give back the land to the natives in Spain. You dumb indians.
Native americans also had stories of red haired green eyed savages attacking them, eithopia, and some part of the middle east had stories or mummmies of red haired people. all stories tell they are aggresive and enslave other race. Im not asian of any kind. im not black either or white. i cant tell you what i am. Red haired people are said to be decendants of reptilian humaniods from draco star system.
Hmm Atlantis I think it's more likely that Minoan Crete can seen as symboll of the legend Atlantis. Anyway Blonf hair and coloured is not a genetical disorder.. it is caused by genetic variation.. colour of eyes and hair are not disorders but just variation. People are paler in the north because less sunlight and more need for more vitamin D and paler skin is better absorbing vitamin D and darker skin protects better to sunlight thus is needed in the sunny africa.
non les atlantique ou basques-saxons sont arrivés en europe ensuite , pour les saxon 3500 avant et pour les basque 3000 ans avant, ils sont des indo-européens commes les slaves, les indo-européens sont à l'origine des ino-afghans ayant immigrés en sibérie puis en europe.
Ils n'ont rien en commun avec les araméens (scythians, arméniens, arabes...) qui ne sont pas IE mais G Ydna : arabic.
and you are no error to write such stupidity, it is not an error but an evolution and R1b is the first to cross the Atlantic, the first in America, the first on the moon and you say that they are an error
The Orkhun script is in Soghdian, an Iranic idiom and closelely related with Old-Persian and thus is an Indo-European language, ancestors of modern Tajiks. Secondly, the term ''Turk'' is close related with the Ashena legend which seems to be tocharic. So, if we go that way we will see that the first ''Turks'' were not Turks in modern definition, but Indo-Europeans who were absorbed by nomadic altaying people who adoptet the term Turk ''Blue Eyed''.
As long ago as 1910, the written language of the Tocharians was shown to be closer to Celtic than any of the expected local non-Chinese languages (Indo-Iranian, Finno-Ugaric, Turkic, etc.).
If the Tocharians were the descendants of the "mummy people" who used woollen tweed clothing in checked patterns, then logic would point to a common origin with the Celts.
From central Asia (the "summer lands" of legend), the Celts went west into Europe, and the Tocharians went east to Xinjiang.
yes it is possible and being successfully performed by Chinese the most ancient genetic sample and result it is indo-european Caucasian Ydna R1bib1 and for the women HV of indo-european ancient
Can you prove that? The original Hsiung-nu were Proto-Mongols. Surely, corresponding to the time it was not unusual that Indo-Europeans and Altayic-speaking people formed an union but the Hsiung-nu were for sure of altayic-mongolian origine. The ''Wusun'' were described as red haired and green eyed people...who were for sure Tocharians.
modern Turkic speaking people in Central Asia are descandants of native non-Turkic people and altayic (''Turkic'') tribes. The majority show a strong non-Turkic origine. F.ex. Turkey. Turks in Turkey are Turkified and islamized (obviously by muslim Turkish nomads) descandants of Romans, Iranians, Arabs, Jews, Armenians, Greecs, Albanians etc. Genetical studies prove that point very well. Only 12% of Turks in the mountains show a ''possibly'' asiatic origine
For those who believe slaves where non-Turks and mamlukes were Ossetians and other Caucasians: A Mamluk (Turkish: Memlük, also called Kölemen; Arabic: مملوك (singular), مماليك mamālīk (plural), "owned"; also transliterated mamlouk, mamluq, mamluke, mameluk, mameluke, mamaluke or marmeluke) was a soldier of slave origin, often of Turkic ancestry[1].
Leader2OO7 5 months ago
@Scythianist scythians were indeed indo european but hun whose leader was attila was anscester of mongol n turk
singularku 7 months ago
its really amazing to see the ancestors i really like to know about there life story and how they must have survived in Asian lands..!!
kafirstunner666er 7 months ago
Asianhordes, you need education... to understand what Indo-European and European means.... sigh*
Leader2OO7 7 months ago
@Askar590
R1a is an indo-european gen marker. The fact that Kyrgyz have this gen, too, just show how Turkic nations emerged. From altayic and Indo-European people. Your words can not mess with science and biology. Get some education. Beside that, the name Kyrgyz self is even not of Turkic origin, but possibly of Indo-European which means 40. Quatre, Qarante, Chahar, Quatro, Quader, Qartet ..etc .. all of them have to do with 4 and 40. Kyrgyz means 40girls, directing an origin of many tribes
Leader2OO7 7 months ago
Mongols and Uyghur are great People but I do not have the same thoughts about Anatolian Turkish, scumericanos, scum han chinese, scum pakistanis, scum arabs
MariusChivu838814 8 months ago
turks are not mongolid only, there are many turkish tribes and they have different physical apperances.Turks are turks; a nation not only race.
MrLoveofme 8 months ago
@MrLoveofme
modern Turks are not the same as they were for 1500years ago. The so-called first turkic dynasty, the gok-turks, where in fact no Turks but tocharians from a tribe called ashina. the term turk was adoptet by later altayic tribes to designate themself with this leading tribe.
Leader2OO7 7 months ago
Modern Turks are a mixed of Iranians, Arabs, Europeans etc. Just take the Anatolian Turks as example. They are by language Turkic but by genetical origin and history non-Turks. Only 7%, mostly living in the mountains relatively ''isolated'' can trace their origins to real ethnical ''Turks'', altayic poeple. Modern Anatolian people are descandants of all kind of Muslims that flooded Anatolia during the Mongols, Iranians, Arabs, even europeans like Bulgarians. All of them adoptet Ottoman lang.
Leader2OO7 7 months ago
@Jimlead Take the Austrians or Bavarians, Bulgarians or Bosnians, Magyars or Lithuanians, Poles or Saxons, Serbs or Ukrainians, Czechs or Croats, Burgundians or Catalans…. Nearly all of them blue-eyed and fair-haired (exact replicas of the ancient Turkic men and women), and all blissfully oblivious of their common roots.
IdelUralState 8 months ago
@IdelUralState
Turks are Mongolids. They are no ''blue eyed'' or ''blond''. If there are blue eyed Turks than because someone in the ancestory was not a Turk but a foreigner. That was in the case of Djingis Khan, a Mongol, who was descriped by his Persian court writer as red haired and green-eyed which indicates that one of his ancestors may belonged to a non-Mongol tribe, possibly Scythian/Sacae or even Tocharian.
Leader2OO7 7 months ago
@Leader2OO7 R1a is a common Y-dna in Central Asia, wake up!
IdelUralState 4 months ago
@Leader2007
Why are you talking about Turks like that, when you are not turk, you know nothing about us, we are not Mongols. mongol Populition is about 20 million and there are more then 300 million Turks in the world, so shut up and stop making Propaganda against turk.
Bureschaghal 10 months ago
@Bureschaghal
where did I said Turks are Mongols? Turks and Mongols are two different groups. Beside that, there are ca. 180 mio Turkic* people, to say it better and correct, Turkic-speaking people. If you look Mongolide and your origin is in Central Asia or China you can call yourself a Turk and possibly your ancestors were ''ethnical'' Turks but take the Uygurs are example. They are descandants of Iranians, Tocharians and Turks. That´s explain thei physical features. From Caucasian to Mong.
Leader2OO7 7 months ago
@Jimlead
Turks claim a lot for themself knowing that they had nothing to offer to the world like great Indo-European civilisasations (Greec, Indian, Roman, Persian, Chinese, Arab) . This thinking arose first in the first years of the last century when Ata Turk, a albano-bosnien Jew, was propagating a lot of non-sense. Till today, not even a single claim of Turks are accepted or respected by any scholar. That´s the greatest shame but it seems Turks do not have a bit shame.
Leader2OO7 11 months ago
Great uygur turkish culture.long live the great turkish-uygur culture.
long live Turkistan.
long live Turanian
esincafe 11 months ago 2
@esincafe
look into a mirror and you will see a Mongol ...not a Tocharian aka Chechen person ..
Leader2OO7 11 months ago
@Leader2OO7 Google for "Y-Haplogroup_R1_distribution.png" and have a look at the first map and see the SCIENTIFIC REALTIY OF MODERN DAY SCIENCE OF 2011. Your world view will be SHOCKED.
IdelUralState 8 months ago
@IdelUralState
LOL R1A, a genetical marker for Indo-Europeans ... .. you lost boy... Turks did not even existed before 1800 years ago ... and even if than they were nomads... not having any civilisation, culture etc ,. that´s why they were known as barbarian in ancient and middle-age ... barbarian people .. goat-milk drinking people.
Leader2OO7 8 months ago
@esincafe
LOL These are caucasian proto- Viking and Scots type people living in the East, not Turks!
AbattoirBluez 9 months ago
@esincafe ironically turan is an iranian word, istan aswell
DJKAYZEE 9 months ago
@DJKAYZEE
Turan does not mean ''Turk''. It was used in the Avesta and Ferdowsi to designate ''Aryans'' who did not belong to a settled community and had not zoroastrianism as religion. Nomads and the settlements had already struggles with eachother. That is the strongest message of Avesta. The nomads, the wild barbarians, soldiers and servants of Ahriman (devil and opponent of Ahura->God of light) vs ''Aryans'' (Settlements and Zoroastrians. 'Iran and AnIran' -> Aryan (nobility) and un-Aryan
Leader2OO7 7 months ago
It is good that Chinese gov is independent so these findings can not be fully supressed by ZOG
ww2footage 1 year ago
there was a Glorious Indo-European Aryan civilisation in central asia but mongols scums exterminated them all !
the mongoloid scums where jealous of their beauty,architecture,women...
..like jews today,who are jealous of Europeans Peoples,they want to genocide our people with mass immigration and cultural marxism !
Aterkomsten 1 year ago
@Aterkomsten
But the Persians, Tajiks, eastern-Tajiks, the Pamiris etc. ..thse people who are responsible and are direct descandants of those Aryans still live. Look for Latif Pedram, Ahmad Shah Massud, Rabbani.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
@Aterkomsten There's a 6'6'' Indo-European male mummy with blond hair, and a gold plate face mask that strangely is exactly Greek. He was extremely well preserved, meaning great care was taken. It's obvious that he was worshiped.
aaronscrewme 1 year ago
@aaronscrewme
golden masks was commonly among Central Asian´s and Iranian population widely spreade. The Chinese, Tocharians, Romans, Greecs, Burushkos etc. had them, too. Search for ''Ancient Persian Warriors''
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
@Leader2OO7 Well the placement, size, and style of the mask is uniquely similar to the Greeks.
aaronscrewme 1 year ago
@aaronscrewme
Similarities means nothing. Old Iranian goddes and Greec Zeus did looked the same and had the same attributes but they were not the same, but had possibly the same origine (Indo-Germanic - Kurgan?). Beside that, masks, from America to Japan have the same forms and look similar.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
Aryans were indeginous to the foothills of Himalayas between Indus (Sindhu) river and , Saraswati river (Now mostly dissappeared due to tectonic movement) and there is recorded proof in the Vedas , hte ancient scriptures, of Hindus. In fact there is no religion as Hindu , it is the way of life of Aryans. All the people who lived in (s)indhu or indus river. Arabic people pronounced them Hindus.i.e the religion of Aryan was and of Hindus is Sanatan Dharam which means eternal religion. For all
ILUVJEZUZ94 1 year ago
@ILUVJEZUZ94
Aryans were not native to India and did not only moved to India. The majority kept in Central Asia, Middle East and Anatolia and some even moved to north Africa (Tunesia, Egypt) or eastern Europe. The modern Indian population is a mixture of pre-Aryan dravidian population and later invaders, such Turks, Mongols, Tibetans, Indo-Aryans and to smaller part surely Tocharians (at least in Kashmir).
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
@Leader2OO7 Keep telling yourself that. Aryans were indeginous to India. Thats the oldest form of the "caucasoid"
ILUVJEZUZ94 1 year ago
@ILUVJEZUZ94
so modern Indians are the inbreed of a Dravidian-Caucasian relationship? All DNA references indictae their home in eastern Europe. The Weda and the Avesta, all of them describe the Aryans as people from north wandering in new lands. 65% of all male Indians show a strong native pre-Indo-European ancestory to Indian.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
@Leader2OO7 you are right... India is a pot of different cultures, races and religions... Kali Ma as example was not part of "Arajan cult" at all...
VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
@Leader2OO7 No matter where the "Aryans" originated from, the R1A genetic component relates to the people (Indo-Iranians) who called themselves "Aryans" as well as to Baltic-Slavic people. The R1a component is greater in north India, Eastern Europe and amongst Kyrgyz and other such people. R1a component is lesser amongst population of Iran. What would you say to that? Most of the Europeans population including Germans are pre-Aryan origins and therefore not Aryan origins.
websurfer554 11 months ago
@websurfer554
The R1a was a result of mutations among nomads who possibly intermarried with eachother and are mostly seen among Iranians, particularely among Tajiks (64%) and interestingly also among Kyrgyz (65%). Kyrgyz were originally an indo-european people before became assimilated by the Turko-Mongolians but they still claim beeing of Indo-European origine, see also theirn name which is non-Turkic. R1a is lesser found in western Iran, region between Irak, Kurdistan and Khuzistan.
Leader2OO7 11 months ago
@Leader2OO7 R1a always existed on this planet (and arrived from outside) - and later spread over the world from North (Siberia) ...
VendPrekmurec 9 months ago
This migration assimilated and replaced the Indo-Europeans of the region to create a distinct identity,[9] as the Altaic languages and culture of the Turkic migrants eventually supplanted the original Indo-European influences. This fluid definition of Uyghur and the diverse ancestry of modern Uyghurs are a source of confusion about what constitutes true Uyghur ethnography and ethnogenesis.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
Throughout history, the term Uyghur has taken on an increasingly expansive definition. Initially signifying only a small coalition of Tiele tribes in Northern China, Mongolia, and the Altay Mountains, it later denoted citizenship in the Uyghur Khaganate. Finally it was expanded to an ethnicity, whose ancestry originates with the fall of the Uyghur Khaganate in the year 842 AD, which caused Uyghur migration from Mongolia into the Tarim Basin.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
In comparing the DNA of the mummies to that of modern day Uyghur peoples, Victor H. Mair's team found some genetic similarities with the mummies, but "no direct links", concluding that the mummies are Caucasoid; that East Asian peoples "began showing up in the eastern portions of the Tarim Basin about 3,000 years ago... while the Uighur peoples arrived after the collapse of the Orkon Uighur Kingdom, largely based in modern day Mongolia, around the year 842."[9]
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
Uyghur activists identify with the Tarim mummies, but research into the genetics of ancient Tarim mummies and their links with modern Uyghurs remain controversial, both to Chinese government officials concerned with ethnic separatism, and to Uyghur activists concerned that research could affect their claims of being indigenous to the region.[10][11]
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
were the so-called aryans the only blue-eyed, reddish blond-haired people in the planet ? the stupid europian racism put this crappy idea into the modern world ! they´d better stop dreaming about these mummies. these mummies are old Uyghurs. Uyghurs have got a very great history much more longer then "aryans" and all of TRUE aryan races descended from Uyghur forefathers.
In6the6dark 1 year ago
@In6the6dark
Your forefathers were Turks. Modern Uygurs just conquered the region that once was not populated by Turks. The Tocharians were assimilated into the Turkic-speaking community who btw, where lesser by number but military powerful. A military dominance over a language was the cause that modern Uygurs speak Turkic. However, Uygur´s claim on these people for every era before the 9th century is not correct. They just suffer under an ID crisis
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
@Leader2OO7 my answer is easy, you know nothing about the true history of Uyghurs and even Tocharians.
In6the6dark 1 year ago
@In6the6dark
everyone is wrong, except you loser. The entire world historians, scientists, DNA studies are all wrong, only the claim of some IDless people who seek an identity and a deep root in modern Tarim Basin are right. Get serious!
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
@In6the6dark are you retarded? aryans founded civilizations thousands of year´s before altaic people
the oldest altaic people date like back to 200 AD uyghur? hahhaha
uyghurs have no history nothing intressting nothing old these were indo-european
wich none of you belong too.
fuckturks2223 1 year ago
Thanks a lot for uploading it. Muchas gracias por subirlo. Excelente. I´ll post it in my facebook page. Lo voy a publicar en mi pàgina de facebook.
ptrck99 1 year ago
these mumies are native europeans not indos.
ANTIMATERlAL 1 year ago
Scientific proof of Aryan lineages creating Civilization. Along with the recent DNA tests on the Egyptian mummy King Tut, proving that his lineage was also Aryan. The Aryans brought the boost needed to create Art, Pyramids, and Beauty everywhere they migrated.
xwaystranger 1 year ago
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In6the6dark 1 year ago
@In6the6dark
This is the political view from the 20th century. The real ''ethnical'' Aryan is of Caucasian origine and have mostly soft-dark eyes and dark hair. The earliest ancestors of modern Indo-germanic speaking Europeans who came from the Caucasus region were mostly racial like modern Tajiks and Iranians and belonged to the Corded Nordic racial people, or shortly, ''Iranid-like'' people.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
The Indo Europeans lived together long before this even. They lived in central Asia back roughly 5000 to 6000 BC
Eksynyt 1 year ago
maybe they did NOT get along so well, since they are ALL DEAD at the same place.
kinda looks suspicious, if you ask me........veeery suspicious......
jws54 1 year ago
@jws54
they ''died out'' because they interminggled with new immigrants. The Tocharians did not only lived in Western China or Ganzu. They were living also in parts of Sibiria and intermiggled with Proto-Mongolian tribes. The same happened later when Turks arrived in their country in China. Many also moved to Central Asia, modern Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even India. The Indians know them as part of the Kamboya ''Aryans'' of Kabul under Turushka
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
i have noted that these people are the cousins of the celts and ancestors of the modermn tajiks of afghanistan,tajikistan and northern china
RNBCRAZZY 1 year ago
Turks from east Turkistan:indo-european is a mythos!.
30062004se 1 year ago
@30062004se
Turks are Mongolid. Tocharians were ''Caucasian''. Modern Uygurs are not pure Turks, but a mix of Iranian, Turks, Tocharians, a pocket of Arabs and Chineses.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
Uyghurs are not XIngjiang's native people, they migrated to this region about 1000 years ago.
The native people of Xin Jiang were blonde white tribes which accepted ancient Han Chinese culture..
ANd their religion WAS NOT ISLAM, they were Buddhists
lordzilu1584 1 year ago
It appears many wish to claim these ancient caucasoid wonderers, the language and clothing, like tartan, might even suggest a Celtic tribal origin (though most went west from the ancient Ukraine pushed by their western Scythian neigbours who influenced them) ; though the Scythians or Saka may have been more Iranic in origin. It remains a mystery.
Nuiceltico 1 year ago
these mummies are for uyghurs
it has nothing to do with china
china just invaded the uyghurs
before that , china treat East turkestan as pity as they hate those Barbarian mongolians on the other side of the great wall
BrownPeopleOfEurope 1 year ago
stupid vedio, stupid mummies, stupid commments. wtf who cares about uygurs. lucky they escaped total annihlation.
Hanueberalles 1 year ago
very very cool.
LampreyStaghelm 1 year ago
Chinese name. Original name is kroran. With the original name, the history is very important.
BlueDream82D 1 year ago
why do archaeologists always seem to find stuff in deserts? it seems like the last place ancient people would want to live
339194 1 year ago
@339194 True, but the folks they're finding aint doing much living.
gotchanowdog 1 year ago
@339194
Because they were not always deserts ;-) - but then the climate
changed, or a river changed its course, and the peoples had to leave.
But this also means that the ruins and graves have been left to themselves -
and the weather of course - so less plundering for building materials and grave
goods etc. has gone on.
Bjowolf2 1 year ago
@339194 THANK YOU!! i see alot of this shit as bullshit!! YOU KNOW HOW EASY IT WOULD BE ABLE TO PLACE A HOAX IN THE DESERT LMAO!!
PharaohII 1 year ago
@339194 dry and well preserved and untouched
spike378 1 year ago
@339194
Because large part of the world, specially in Middle East and Asia, is made of deserts. Near Oases could civilisation grow at first, because people were forced to change their hard and pathetic life to a better life. In europe, only Greecs can be mentioned as the earliest civilisiation, at least the minoic civilisation
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
what do you mean indo get your story straight .
VINCEV1980 1 year ago
those mummies are HUNNIC and not indoeuropeans
kekvirag111 1 year ago
@kekvirag111
Huns were a confederation of Proto-Turks, Proto-Mongols, various Iranian tribes like the Alans, possibly even Tocharian tribes and the west Gots, a germanic tribe of Europe.The Huns were not a homogene people. They were a confederation of different tribes with different origines, something not unusual for nomads and specially for the ancient people.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
Great video!
There is also the lost legion of the roman army who lost in the desert after a battle in the East. Their descends still live in China. They are blonde and white.
I know this doesn't have to do with this videos but it 's something interesting. :)
iliriku 2 years ago
Incredible textiles for that era. keep in mind there were possible also Asian or Chinese traders visiting Western Europe but their remains have decayed and forgotten
allclassics 2 years ago
@allclassics
I read an article from Science. And it was about a Chinese, possibly a slave, who was found in a tomb in Italy. The tomb was more than 1800 years old.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
These mummies are decendants of Finns, who crossed from russia to china before getting to japan
SS16backup 2 years ago
''Finns'' are not Indi-Europeans. They speak not even an indogermanic language..but these people did.
For some Uygurs. Uygurs are descandants of Turks and Mongols settling in the 9th and 10th century in southwestern China. Modern Uygurs are not identical with the original Indogermanic population of China. They were close related cultural and ethnical with their neighbours to whom they interminggled for centuries but modern Uygurs have just absorbed them but Uygurs are not ''Tocharians''.
Leader2OO7 2 years ago
The 4000 years old mummies can´t also be ''uyguric''..what a pathetic people these Turks are. Just take a deep look on the features of the people. They are described as ''caucaside'' (''Aryanic''), while Uygurs, like most Turks are mongolid or at least mixture of mongolid and caucasid race but majority show a mongolid feature.
Leader2OO7 2 years ago 8
@Leader2OO7
Pathetic Turks built Seljuk (lived more than 250 years) and Ottoman (lived than 600 years) Empires. And they have created their own huge cultures which others (non-pathetics?) could not created .... never ever...
cakirkusu 10 months ago
cakirkus, interesting, it is new for me to see that Iranian civilisation was taken by Turks even to Vienna and now you claim those adoptet from Iranian peoples by barbarian nomadic Turks as Turkish heritage. Come on, Turks had nothing, have nothing and won´t have anything. Even within the OTTOMAN empire non-Turks were the ones who were known for beeing people of pen, science etc. The ottoman sultans were ashamed and took it as an insult if someone called them Turks. That´s reality, not dreamsy
Leader2OO7 10 months ago
@Leader2OO7
So in this video are they saying these people are similar to modern Turkish Uygers?
OrthodoxDarwinist 10 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist
no of course not. They say they resemble modern-day Tajiks and Iranians and some even nordic people.. such as Germans and Scandinavians.
Leader2OO7 7 months ago
@Leader2OO7 watch video about Caucasians in China (old Aryan Arimia) - type "Arkaim" into YT window
cheers
VendPrekmurec 9 months ago
@VendPrekmurec
Thank you brother, I will.
Leader2OO7 7 months ago
@cakirkusu How about the Mamluks and Janissaries? Those warriors were taken from slaves of non-Muslim origins and they practically built the Arabic world we know today. How about Sokollu Mehmed Pasha? He was Grand Vizier who was de-facto ruler of Ottoman Empire for nearly 15 years. He was born in Serbian peasant's family. Still want to keep talking about who created huge Turkish culture?
Gjalpinulva 8 months ago
@Gjalpinulva
Mamluks were Turkic slaves, serving for Persians and their vezirs. Later, they were given to the Abbasids as gifts. In slavrey, they were thought how to read, write, management, poetry, military etc. Not to use the Iranic people or Persians, the Iranians used many often these Turkic slaves as soldiers, same as Abbasids. The Ghaznavids were of Mamluke origine and former slaves of Persian Samanids, Tahirids, Saffarids, Farighunids, Sassanids etc.
Leader2OO7 7 months ago
Genetically Finns are overwhelmingly indo-european.
Fyllesjuk 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 To the uploader, there is no "Indo-Germanic" subgroup. Also, Centum and Satem were not branches of Indo-European. They were sound changes that occurred independently of branches. Just like the guttural R spread from French (a Romance language) to German, but not to Italian which is more closely related to French.
accw 1 year ago
@accw
Satem and Centum was the result of sound changing that occured some 5000 BC, thus, we use in Linguistic the words Satem and Centum Branch...both means hundred and both have the same roots.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
Also, it's ironic that you mention Germans, Celts, and Greeks, who have very low frequencies of R1, to be related to the Tocharians whose mummies were found to be very high in R1a...
accw 1 year ago
Mair claims that "the earliest mummies in the Tarim Basin were exclusively Caucasoid, or Europoid" with east Asian migrants arriving in the eastern portions of the Tarim Basin around 3,000 years ago while the Uyghur peoples arrived around the year 842.[14] In trying to trace the origins of these populations, Victor Mair's team suggested that they may have arrived in the region by way of the Pamir Mountains about 5,000 years ago.
goodcupoftea 1 year ago
@Leader2OO7 , This evidence remains controversial. It refutes the contemporary nationalist claims of the present-day Uyghur peoples who claim that they are the indigenous people of Xinjiang, rather than the Han Chinese. In comparing the DNA of the mummies to that of modern day Uyghur peoples, Mair's team found some genetic similarities with the mummies, but "NO DIRECT LINKS WITH UIGURS!!! DNA of mummies is 1Ra - like modern Ukrainians and Russians:-)".
goodcupoftea 1 year ago
Kelts Some Irish adventures traveling the world as they do today.
allclassics 2 years ago
@SS16backup
Nonsense! ;-)
No Finns in Japan anyway - not until "modern" times.
Bjowolf2 1 year ago
@SS16backup There were no finns that long back in time.
jaskamakkara 1 year ago
@SS16backup so... tell me a difference between "Finn", "German" and "Slavic" ... only in a little bit different types of Haplogroups perhaps, but they are all white... with other words; differences are only in language
i will reveal tho those "Chinese caucasian mummies" were... they were ancient rulers called "Khans"
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@VendPrekmurec
Chinese are also white but called because of the political rascism of the 19th and 20th century as ''Yellow Race''. Germanic and Slavic tribes have the same roots as Iranic and Romanic tribes have ....and thus are historical ''brothers'' and speak a sister language to eachother.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
I am amazed at the spin they put on this documentary - they are so happy that the Caucasians co-existed with the Mongolians, and even intermarried with them. Don't they realize that that is why there are no Caucasians left in China! When races intermarry, they commit genocide. The race that is in the majority will simply absorb the other race, and it will leave practically no trace. A few asians with blond hair is all that is left. I think this is a tragedy.
bannelingboer 2 years ago 6
it is the whites who loves mixing with us asians (well can't blame them) so whenever there is a white-asian interacial couple then the white one is to blame
lcddg 2 years ago
You are an idiot. For 1000 years ago things like racism was not existing and people, folks and tribes interminggled with eachother to survive. The nomadic Uygurs were absorbed by the Irano-Tocharian population of China, not the other way round. That´s why Uygur language have many Tocharian and Iranic vocabulary, why they have a non-Turkic culture and why they even have indogermanic myths of their origine. The same goes for Tajiks who absorbed many waves of Tocharians in Bactria, Samarkand ...
Leader2OO7 2 years ago 8
@Leader2OO7 To say racism did not exist 1000 years ago proves you need to just not post comments anywhere on anything. You are an uneducated moron and should invest in some common fucking sense.
LampreyStaghelm 1 year ago
@Leader2OO7 Racism has ALWAYS existed. Its not like America and the Blacks started the trend. Racism is part of the human mind and began the first time a human started using his brain. Just because races mated....doesn't mean they got along. It probably meant rape during battle. Therefore the race got mixed....on and on etc. Persecution of races has always been around even in ancient times.... slaves forced to sleep with their owners...and again the races mixed due to lack of birth control
LoveMokes 1 year ago
@Leader2OO7 , well, Ugurs were NOT absorbed by Arian Tocharians - rather muslim Uigurs ivaided and murdered all the white men and took tocharian women as concubine. As it is typical with Islam - the religion and customs of pre-islamic time were considered to be NULL und were illuminated. The Tocharian mummies showed DNA 1Ra - like today people in Ukraine (the highest percent of DNA, russia, poland and a bit in Germany and Sweden). Today uigurs - mongolo-turkish people with OTHER DNA!
goodcupoftea 1 year ago
@goodcupoftea
The r1a is also found among Kyrgyz and Tajiks (65%). The Kyrgyz are a Turkic-speaking people of Central Asia and have mostly an Asian feature but their name seems beeing of Indo-european background.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
@Leader2OO7 according to legends.... our people Uyghurs used to built the greatest cities on the earth, 8000 years ago our people arrived India before Aryans came to India. they started agriculture before than any other nations. But Change in Climate of Central Asia forced our ancestory to move out from Cties and became nomad.
TheOguze 11 months ago
@TheOguze
Yeah, according to legends ...that´s the point..created lies and myths to create a history ...a policy first established at the beginning of the 20th century....by it´s father Ata Turk, a blue-eyed bosnian jew from north-eastern Greec who wanted to erase any ottoman identity among so-called Turkified and Islamized Greecs, Albanians, Arabs, Kurds etc. Turks were always Nomads and had nothing to do with civilisations. Lies, slanders and propagandas. 2mio armenian victims.
Leader2OO7 11 months ago
@Leader2OO7 Racism existed from the time MAN EXISTED! Cannibalism was a way of life when one tribe would rape & eat the other. When a set of Caucasian people the Aryans became civilized stopping this evil practices. Aryan means civilized. Central Asia was part of the Aryan home land when mongoloid cleansed the lands of the aryans-civilized. Mongoloid people were ruthless, yet most powerful, have to agree no doubt. They succeeded in ethnically cleansing the land of Aryans. They used to harass all
mishrik 8 months ago
@mishrik
descandants of Aryans* exists still, you moron. Ossetians, Iranians, Tajiks, Baluchs, Nuristanis, Kalashs, Chitralis etc ..
Leader2OO7 8 months ago
@lcddg
What nonsense is that? People have always mixed - and what is the "blame" ???
Maybe it's just because you have prejudice about us "whites"?
So maybe you are the racist here?
We in Europe are aware that we have our roots far away in the East and are closely related to the people who live there ( N. India, Iran, Afgh.), as can also be seen in our languages - most people here when told find this extremely fascinating.
Bjowolf2 1 year ago
@bannelingboer I dont think soooo...... I went to china, many of them dont look chinese like their mongolian neighbours..... their women even have big boobies...
BrownPeopleOfEurope 1 year ago
@bannelingboer Just because they intermarried and left no trace of their Caucasian traits does not imply that there was a genocide. Intermarriage is not genocide dude.
lthrlover 1 year ago
@bannelingboer its Mongoloid not Mongolian..........two different meanings...go look it up.
Mongol/mongolian= an ethnic group and nationality of mongolia
Mongoloid= a Race-chinese/korean/japanese/vietnamese/thai/mongol ect ect ect
Lazyboyz702 1 year ago
the Uyghurs were from Mongolia and the Siberia (Tuva.......) and they moved to central asian,
but before it, there were also the Hun_Uyghurs in central asia,
they came from mongolia-siberia and they got togathered with the central asian Uyghur who were much more of them. after they lived togather.
well, i mean they were the Hun_Uyghurs in central asia.
Abdumutellip 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 yes but who gives...
worIdcitizen 2 years ago
What do you mean with ''yes but who gives''?
Leader2OO7 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 I think he meens: 'but who cares.' In Dutch (literally translated) you say: 'Who gives something about it' instead of: 'But who cares'
I know, late responce but I just watched this clip (I think it's great) :)
DutchGirl027 1 year ago
When I travelled to central Asia I have seen asian people with blond hair and blue eyes, but they look asian (mongoloid) how? Because central asia is in between europe and china...people are mixed there...in central asia people and culure are mixed (middle eastern + european + asian, etc.)
worIdcitizen 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 ...
you are wrong .... homer describes man
with blond hair in his book
..... so it existed ancient greeks like this
... in 5000 years before christ some say that went there dionysos with greek people
marioorange 2 years ago
the newest genetical searc says that the hungarians are closest relation with the sar-yogurs sárga=yellow also sárig=yellow in our lenguage
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7
we had 1000 years problem to use the latin letters, how to write down the hungarian (magyar) texts....13 sound is not in the latin alfabet: cs, gy. ty. ly, á é ü, ű ö ő
search székely-magyar rovás
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7
descendant 1: ivadék iv=the fish places the eggs!!
descendant 2 utód után=after
descendant 3 leszármazott
fiú=boy fia=son of sy
forefather is:
ős ancestor ősi=ancient
előd (első=first coming from egy=one)
ősapa apa=father atya=father
őslakó nativ Lakó living
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
When I heared this first I started to study this topic. So my knowledge is very poor, but I want to make a database with the links about this topic.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
there are also some hungarian films on youtube about the priamids, but focusing onto the runes!!!
Search:
boszniai piramisok
A múlt üzenete-A boszniai piramisok 2. rész
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
In Tuva some years ago they found a tomb of a Skythian-hun princess.
As I was informed, from the 22 runes 18 is equal to our ones.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Very good question!
I can not but many film can be found in youtube and also sites on the net. Do not forget, I am amateur!!!
But if you cearch in the net: Tatárlakai korongok or in english tartaria tablets,
you will fint a lot!!! 4 runes on this tablet are very-very similar with 4 runes of the székely-magyar rovásirás!
Even many runes of our writing were found in the bosnian piramids!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7
how do you pronounce Sacaes ???
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 that is very interesting for us, that our runes are somewhere in the middle, if you compare it to other ones.
And nowodays many says the writing went to mezopotamia from the carpatian basin. Many clay tablets were found that are told to be the ancestor of the sumer writing...
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 I also heared that acc. to the chenese scientists the chinese writing is originated to the huns.
Look et our f letter in the runic alfabet. föld is earth or ground. but the symbol in the chinese writing of the earth is the same as our f letter!!! or very-very similar!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 You know that is the very interesting thing that we have in our lenguage even iranians middle asia turks, finno-ugor words.
And more say today that sumer words...
Many say that our writing is fit to read the sumer texts!!!
In this topic Badiny Jós Ferenc had a lot of presentatiion.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 Searc in youtube and on the net:
"the origin of hungarians"
Michelangelo Naddeo's theory from 1998.
Tatárlakai korongok or tartaria tablets
tordos-vinca culture
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 According to the last archeological results in the carpatian basin!!! even the ancestor of the sumer runic writing!!!!
Many runes were found in the bosnianpriamids!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7
Dear Sir! Where are you from because what you say it is very interesting!
I am not historian but I notice one thing.
Our dialect and part of our nation called Székely...ly thank for the latin we have run for this. é also . More and more proves show the huns were their ancestors!!!
The legends, the runic writing: Székely-magyar rovásirás!! If I read sacaes it is very very similar to my ear székely!!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 And what about the Skythian-huns:? They were also not asian people.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 Mcihelangelo Naddeo says these people went to mezopotamia, and later to the Tarim basin.
And the writing and bronz and the wheel was founk by them even before the Sumer civiliztion. Shortly speaking, the ancestor of the sumers were from the carpationa basin.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7 Thank you for your but one comment I would like to add....You forgot a nation from central europe who speak also not indo european lenguage, and his runic writing is equal that was found in Tuva.....18 runes from 22. And more and more say that the writing was found by a civilisation in carpatian basin and when the indoeuropeans arrived, thy left europe!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@Leader2OO7
maybe the mumies are greeks ...
when Dionysos went to fight the ennemies there ....
in takla makan
marioorange 2 years ago
Is it sure that they are indo-european?
Isn't it possible that they are that people from europe who left the carpatian basin when the indo-europeans arrived?
Before indo-europeans appeared in europe there were a civilisation using writing!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Search in youtube:
the origin of hungarians.
Michelangelo Naddeo's theory....
It explain also the uyghur's ancestors....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Thats right, Aryans come from Europe. Turk & Mongols come from Yenisei Yakutistan.
VizardMaskedSoldier 2 years ago
Because "Europeans" are Asians in disguise. You killed your cousins-the native Americans. Haplogroups P Q N O are related more so than you are related to native swedish. You brought you highly advanced proto-culture which probably developed in Asia too, and killed all the natives in Europe. Give back the land to the natives in Spain. You dumb indians.
Turningplowshare 2 years ago
Thanks for posting a very interesting video.
DragonWaveMaster 2 years ago
Oh yes, the typical anti-White racist terminology!
The White people are an error and a mistake, right? tststs
FYI, the appearance of the fair hair and light eyes is far more before that!
Wiligot 2 years ago
clear traces of Aryan migration to india ..if you travel from urumchi/xinghziang southwest you can hit kashmir and afghan-pak region.
UHF333 2 years ago
Native americans also had stories of red haired green eyed savages attacking them, eithopia, and some part of the middle east had stories or mummmies of red haired people. all stories tell they are aggresive and enslave other race. Im not asian of any kind. im not black either or white. i cant tell you what i am. Red haired people are said to be decendants of reptilian humaniods from draco star system.
AuronWarrior 2 years ago
thats bullshit this mummies are tocharians or skythians
dataman121 2 years ago
so this is where ugyhurs came from
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
aryans, in MY china?
flecktarnjoe 2 years ago
do you have any source of our statement, it is interesting
Blechmy 2 years ago
Hmm Atlantis I think it's more likely that Minoan Crete can seen as symboll of the legend Atlantis. Anyway Blonf hair and coloured is not a genetical disorder.. it is caused by genetic variation.. colour of eyes and hair are not disorders but just variation. People are paler in the north because less sunlight and more need for more vitamin D and paler skin is better absorbing vitamin D and darker skin protects better to sunlight thus is needed in the sunny africa.
That is all.
Eopyk 2 years ago
this proves that racism is retarded
cuaem 2 years ago
non les atlantique ou basques-saxons sont arrivés en europe ensuite , pour les saxon 3500 avant et pour les basque 3000 ans avant, ils sont des indo-européens commes les slaves, les indo-européens sont à l'origine des ino-afghans ayant immigrés en sibérie puis en europe.
Ils n'ont rien en commun avec les araméens (scythians, arméniens, arabes...) qui ne sont pas IE mais G Ydna : arabic.
mtdnaT1 2 years ago
and you are no error to write such stupidity, it is not an error but an evolution and R1b is the first to cross the Atlantic, the first in America, the first on the moon and you say that they are an error
mtdnaT1 2 years ago
Before telling anything about Turks let me make you aware of some aspects of Turks.
On the Orkhon (Orhun) inscriptions, the word Turk can be seen as (ö)T(ü)r(ü)k. It means speaking, loving, being thus "HUMAN"
Ök(ü)k T(ü)r(ü)k is written on the inscriptions and it means "God (Tengri) Knowing Humans"
Turks are a cultural unity. Any "race" can be Turk as long as he is thought about Tengri (God) knowledge.
ancalimonungol 2 years ago
@ancalimonungol
The Orkhun script is in Soghdian, an Iranic idiom and closelely related with Old-Persian and thus is an Indo-European language, ancestors of modern Tajiks. Secondly, the term ''Turk'' is close related with the Ashena legend which seems to be tocharic. So, if we go that way we will see that the first ''Turks'' were not Turks in modern definition, but Indo-Europeans who were absorbed by nomadic altaying people who adoptet the term Turk ''Blue Eyed''.
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
As long ago as 1910, the written language of the Tocharians was shown to be closer to Celtic than any of the expected local non-Chinese languages (Indo-Iranian, Finno-Ugaric, Turkic, etc.).
If the Tocharians were the descendants of the "mummy people" who used woollen tweed clothing in checked patterns, then logic would point to a common origin with the Celts.
From central Asia (the "summer lands" of legend), the Celts went west into Europe, and the Tocharians went east to Xinjiang.
baraxor 2 years ago
the genetic result of the samples of tokhariens:
Ydna R1b1b1 and MT dna HV,
Breed Caucasoid. indo-europeans
R1b1b2* modern caucasian (basque-saxon-hittite)
mtdnaT1 2 years ago
the genetic result of the samples of tokhariens:
Ydna R1b1b1 and MT dna HV,
Breed Caucasoid.
polarisreseau 2 years ago
the adn was successfully analysed by Chinese and it is about people in the neighbouring genetic contour of the Caucasian.
Ydna R1b1b1 and MTdna HV.
For basque-saxon-hittite it is R1b1b2a1 and MTdna HV? H AND V.
They are therefore a lifeless branch of the Caucasian
polarisreseau 2 years ago
Tocharians are the tusharas in India
puloman1 2 years ago
Is it possible that their hair turned blonde after thousands of years?
99999999988888888 2 years ago
yes it is possible and being successfully performed by Chinese the most ancient genetic sample and result it is indo-european Caucasian Ydna R1bib1 and for the women HV of indo-european ancient
polarisreseau 2 years ago
R1b1b1 and MTdna HV it is caucasoïd.
Indo-european caucasian modern Ydna R1b1b2
mtdnaT1 2 years ago
Can you prove that? The original Hsiung-nu were Proto-Mongols. Surely, corresponding to the time it was not unusual that Indo-Europeans and Altayic-speaking people formed an union but the Hsiung-nu were for sure of altayic-mongolian origine. The ''Wusun'' were described as red haired and green eyed people...who were for sure Tocharians.
ParsistaniTajik 2 years ago
ancient kipchak turks were described as having red hair and green eyes, I wonder if ancient turkic people were in fact not asian..
mavikilen 2 years ago
@mavikilen
modern Turkic speaking people in Central Asia are descandants of native non-Turkic people and altayic (''Turkic'') tribes. The majority show a strong non-Turkic origine. F.ex. Turkey. Turks in Turkey are Turkified and islamized (obviously by muslim Turkish nomads) descandants of Romans, Iranians, Arabs, Jews, Armenians, Greecs, Albanians etc. Genetical studies prove that point very well. Only 12% of Turks in the mountains show a ''possibly'' asiatic origine
Leader2OO7 1 year ago
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
rockymountain21th 2 years ago