David Rittgers Debates Torture on FOX's The O'Reilly Factor

[R963c]

he lost and he knew it :)

[TheRelentlessRT]

Oreilly has to set up a string of ten hypothetical situations and circumstances in order to get the answers he wants. What a joke of an attempt to make torture look like a good intelligence gathering policy. If someone was dunking me in water repeatedly, I would admit I was the easter bunny if it got them to stop.

[InternetSavage]

I ordinarily like the Cato Institute but damn what a hand wringer. Why anyone gives a damn about torturing someone who would gladly cut your throat shows what a weak kneed nation we really are.

[MadLip78]

@InternetSavage Terrible analysis and you missed the point by a fucking mile. The point is, if you're being tortured, you're probably going to say whatever the interrogators want. Now the people questioning you who could have off-the-wall questions that aren't even near what the truth is have already built up a strong biased point of view. If you answer their question to give them what they want when it's not true at all, will lead them on a wild goose chase. The person being tortured wins.

[InternetSavage]

@MadLip78 Typical leftwing thinking just like the death penalty isn't a deterrent. Sure is funny torture has worked since the beginning of time and continues to work to this day.

[DaMirrorLink]

@InternetSavage torture never works, the people worth capturing for torture have been TRAINED to NOT say anything when tortured.

[InternetSavage]

@DaMirrorLink Of course it works and has already worked. However trying to reason with dunces never works.

[DaMirrorLink]

@InternetSavage Torture doesn't work for the fact that they will say anything to get out of it, and lead the people on a wild goose chase, the united states trains people to die before giving information, because even if they give information they are killed anyway, everyone else does it the same way. Torture. Doesn't. Work. Water-boarding also violates the Geneva Code which WE SIGNED.

[InternetSavage]

Well you're wrong Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded and it worked and I'm sure there are many other classified instances where torture has yielded credible information. Another example is Colonel Allen West and the his BS court marshall for firing a pistol next to terroists head to get the information he needed. Bottom line force works, pussy ass liberalism doesn't. I'm sure you'd rather see a whole city go up in smoke rather than throwing out the Geneva convention.

[DaMirrorLink]

@InternetSavage And that's why you don't make decisions, human rights dont mean a fuckin thing to you, go interrogate your brother or your mom by DROWNING them with no physician standing by when they hide something, im not responding to you anymore, go kill all the people you want, get off earth, and if it meant following THE LAW THAT WE SIGNED then yes then if that means that then yes, TORTURE IS AND SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. Your name matches you perfectly, go have Bush's short little dick inside you

[InternetSavage]

@DaMirrorLink Oh did I rattle your little cage? Big difference between your mother and a hardened terrorist that would gladly cut your throat, not equal.  The latter only respects force. Maybe someday before it's too late you'll realize that human rights don't mean a thing to the islamofascists, but you probably never will.

[InternetSavage]

@DaMirrorLink Oh and LOL on following the law when you on the left don't seem to give a damn about following so many other laws.

[TheDalinkwent]

O'Reilly's habit of quoting Cheney really proves that he's fraud, Cheney use of torture is what's in question, so how is quoting him even credible? of course he's going to say what he did was right and everyone else is wrong. How do people fall for such bullshit.

[albinomoose92]

If you don't approve of terrorist interrogation go live the fuck somewhere else

[utubegay1]

who the fuck would buy that dumb monkeys book??

[underbjorn]

Both the interviewed guys are agreeing against O'reilly so he gets "a little impatient with you gentlemen". Hahaha, xD

[underbjorn]

Oh please, CHENEY SAYS!!!!!!

Go suck Cheney then, fucking idiot.

[timeWaster76]

chenny says what an idiot ORiely

Military Leaders Speak Out Against Torture

[timeWaster76]

chenny says what an idiot ORiely

[uditchow]

He got the guy in the middle but the other chap just gave a wonderful reply in the end.

Brilliant!! seems like not all Americans are stupid.

[redfistaor]

Bill O never really interviews people....he says things and says would you agree with me? And if you don't he just reframes it until you get sick of him and say yes. Can we waterboard him? Let's see if he can called it "ENHANCED"

[tmac9938]

LOL bill cant stand it when people wont swallow his spin...... on his show.

[J0N0614]

If using torture against the "enemy" helps to save lives. It still should not be done. There is other ways to get information. This guy also makes a good point by stating how when you torture someone, they will say anything to make it stop, whether it's true or not. America should simply not employ the same tactics that it fights to stop. When you sink to that level, you are no better than the other guy. I wonder how many times the NVA tried to justify waterboarding to get their information?

[J0N0614]

Would I have used these techniques if I was in charge? Maybe... but does it make it right? is it the moral thing to do? What are we if we don't stand by our morals? We need to practice what we preach. Two wrongs don't make a right. Torture and waterboarding is something terrible that's done by the nations or regimes which America supposedly goes to war with in an attempt to STOP things like that from happening. Yet here we are using the same technique. It's morally wrong and hypocritical.

[WheelsRCool]

O'Reilly was correct and slaughtered those guys in their arguments. Neither one could give a sound rebuttal. The fact of the matter is that the torture did work, Khalid Sheik Mohammad turned into a professor on al-Qaeda when subjected to waterboarding (people subjected to torture will not always just lie, that depends), and Bush did the exactly correct thing with the situation as it was after 9/11.

[zachamazing]

Somebody arrest that man for 'accidentally' saying terror more than once. He is danger to the ***AMERICAN*** public!

[0920197234]

i'd like to see o rielly get waterboarded.

[shariotoflove]

hmmm yea waterboarding provided us with such great REALIABLE information such as Al Qaeda operating in Iraq, and WMDs being fired within 45 minutes. and we all know how that all turned out. look, torture never much less guarantess realible information, as the guy will tend to lie just to get out of the situation. i mean its so obvious.

[Vodka2389]

They kept avoiding the question of principle. Is it right to torture if it's the only way to save American lives. I say absolutely.

[shariotoflove]

then please dont accuse or start wars with other countries i.e. Iraq, Pakistan, Iran, China et al for torturing for the exact same reason as you are. its clear double standards, one of the main demonised traits of the US, and you lose much credibility.

[TimeIAm]

I really don't get why a journalist wants waterboarding to be so effective? What does he have invested in this? It's either effective or it's not. Use it if it is. Discontinue use if it consistently creates bad intel. This is ultimately a scientific question.

[MrBullfrog9876]

Maby we should do some waterboarding to discover who planted the demolition bombs in building 7, whoever did brought down that building better than any demolition team I have ever seen.

[gunnarsom]

messed up discussion. is it supposed to be like this?

[shariotoflove]

only, and i mean, only, on Fox.

[mixxmexx]

mad & crazy, fair & balanced also?

[tomuch619]

billo the clown is garbage Fu*k FOX NOISE Waterbording is torture

[wolfman2431]

that comment is not logical. it took no thought.

[jesus4torture]

Who cares.? These animals must be made to talk. They are sub human anyways. I feel more remorse when I spank my dog( and thats not a metaphor for you liberals)

[lGuardianI]

How are they sub human? Its not a matter of remorse

[timpipe]

Other sub humans: Russians, Poles, Asiatics, Ukranians, homosexuals, Jews, gypsies, etc. These races are taking up valuable living room, or "Lebensraum," you and Onkel Addie could not be more right. Our society must transcend morality, because it is restrictive and keeps us from our rightful place in the order of things. Results are what we want, Constitutions and International treaties be damned! America is a better place thanks to torture, we all know it. Thomas Jefferson was a Liberal.

[barrykaide]

O'Reilly has a point. Coercive interrogation can and does save American lives.

[cocobear33]

listen first off the cia did try differents methods but none of them work and they also knew accourding to ksm more attacks were on the way so if they had already tried the other methods and they were not working and lives were on the line so tell me what should they have done keep doing the same methods that were not working ,

[Juanmag84]

Bill O'really, you fucking douce.

[mentor972]

What's a douce?

[slaballinmytrunk]

I've never seen O'Reilly so angry as when he's arguing in favor of torture. Is this guy fucking nuts or what?!

[MyImago]

Waterboarding is Torture is Tourture is Tourture! No way around it. When we tourture we encite more Terorists, to do us harm.

[JuanjoChe72]

SO DISGUSTING that this fukking IDIOT of Orelly is defending TORTURE.. no water boarding BS... is TORTURE... just fukking DISGUSTING...

that Orelly is going straight to HELL.

SHAME ON FOX BS

[EastSideReaper]

None of you ever say what they should do instead of using force.

Please tell me what they should do. Don't say they should use the Army Field Manual methods or the FBI methods. Tell me what those methods are. None of you ever explain the action that you believe "should" be used.

[lowenklee]

Funny thing is, whatever those methods were that were used by the FBI they worked and did so before the CIA resorted to torture. Timeline of events and internal memo's within the intel community show this. Further more, torture is simply inconsistent with the values upon which this country is founded. The ends should not justify the means as a matter of policy.

[EastSideReaper]

And the interrogations used against the terrorists weren't succesful? They prevented another attack.

[lowenklee]

Which attack? The actionable intel cited by the CIA was actually made by a joint program prior to the CIA's introduction of aggressive interrogation methods (torture).

And besides, this is all irrelevant to the illegality of torture in accordance to numerous international statutes and agreements to which the USA is a signatory.

[EastSideReaper]

The attacks towards Los Angeles and New York.

Now explain the methods you believe we should use. Explain.....what.....they.....­.are.

[bodah44]

the methods we should use are the methods which are proven to work, manipulation, speaking thier language, gaining thier trust, limiting thier options. People are trained to do this they are not trained to torture. And what Iowenklee says is so true; if peole are going to die would you pull fingernails out? would you kill family members? How about a little rape that always messes them up. Ends do not justify the means: just ask the Bible

[EastSideReaper]

Let's give them cookies and milk while we're at it.

[lowenklee]

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

Or, in your case, use irrational arguments as a justification for unethical actions. You're argument of "but it works" holds no weight as a matter of fact or ethics but you refuse to become informed on the subject and prefer to keep your head in the sand.

[lowenklee]

/sigh...this isn't hard to understand. The FBI have methods that don't include torture. They used those methods and gained valuable intel. The CIA then were instructed to use waterboarding. No useful information was obtained by that method. The end. Why do I need to cite FBI interrogation methods? As long as they don't involve the use of illegal methods and prove effective...check on both points.

[EastSideReaper]

It's not "torture", it's tough interrogation. You and the majority of liberals exaggerate the situation.

Can you provide irrefutable evidence that the methods used didn't work?

They are trying to KILL us, we shouldn't have to be ethical about it. If someone kidnapped your mother wouldn't you want the officers to be just a little bit forceful with them to find out where your mother is? I would do anything to that person (excluding murder) to find out where my mother is.

[lowenklee]

We can go round and round thinking up hypotheticals to justify anything. Google Ali Soufan. Look up the international statutes and laws on what is torture...statutes and laws to which we are signatories. It doenst matter what you think is torture, there is a legal definition accepted by international law to which we've signed. Even the FBI declined further involvment after the CIA begain torture methods on the grounds that "we (the FBI) don't do that". Stop being dishonestly evasive.

[EastSideReaper]

I'm not being "dishonestly evasive", I'm just stating my opinion. I could say college hazings are torture, but that would be exaggerating the situation just like you're doing.

Again, they are trying to KILL us, I have no sympathy for anyone who trying to kill me. I will have mercy like God does, but not sympathy.

[lowenklee]

Obviously you just don't get it. You are entitled to your opinion but your opinion is quite an ignorant one. It's clear you've looked up nothing or else you'd see that morals aside this is a legal issue. And as a legal issue it's very damning...you'd know this if you bothered to become informed. As a legal matter we tortured, as a legal matter torture is against the law both domestically and internationally End of story. And with that i'm tired of pointing out the obvious. Have a pleasant day.

[EastSideReaper]

Get what?The fact that you consider the slightest form of physical interrogation "torture"? An opinion can't be ignorant.

You consider it torture. Just because you believe something is torture it doesn't mean it is. It's your opinion.

Prove to me that the methods used didn't work. Show me undeniable proof.

[Blip4023]

Nah, your a dumbass. created ana ccount just to say that lol. if you think bank robbing is cool thats your opinion but its still illegal aint it? but go ahead and try it and tell the police its your opinon lol

look this up on youtube dumbass "Hardball-former CIA operative Bob Baer opines on torture... Does not work. Period"

[EastSideReaper]

Uhhh......no. I created this account in July of last year. The proof is on my page.

I didn't say robbing a bank is okay, you're putting words in my mouth because you don't have an arguement. At least 'lowenklee' had a valid arguement that made sense.

You're intentionally exaggerating the situation. You define it as torture, that's your opinion. Show me undeniable proof that the methods used didn't work.

[S0vereignty]

After WWII, the United States EXECUTED, not imprisoned, executed, Japanese Soldiers who water boarded Americans during the war. America executed them. How do you defend the fact that America is now using the crimes the Empire of Japan committed as interrogation techniques? It has nothing to do with being a bleeding heart liberal, the United States does NOT torture. If the United States tortures, then who are they to tell countries like China, Iran and North Korea that they cannot torture either?

[S0vereignty]

America signed agreements against torture. This information could have been obtained another way, and it has soured America's international relations. If America wants to be a beacon for prosperity and good will across the globe, having prisoners locked up to be tortured in Cuba is not a good starting point.

[EastSideReaper]

You consider a college hazing (waterboarding) torture? My father went through that ritual when he joined the military. He said it wasn't that bad and that many people go through it.

Comparison:

Terrorists: Decapitating our troops.

Our methods: Dunking their head under water.

Tell me which one is worse. A little pain or murder?

[bodah44]

i do not get these arguments which say waterboarding isn't that bad if its not that bad then how in the hell would it be effectual? if the terrorist knew there was a doctor standing by knew he couldn't be killed then why would he be so concerned about a little hazing?

[EastSideReaper]

Compared to what the terrorists do it's not that bad. What we did was a little more harsh than the normal waterboarding. But it worked because it was harsh.

The terrorists don't know what is going on other than them getting dunked under water. We can't be nice to the people who are trying to kill us.

[bodah44]

you cant have it both ways either its 'harsh' ie torture or its not 'harsh' ie not torture and therefore ineffective. also if it worked why did it have to be done 83 times to one person in one month?

[EastSideReaper]

When it comes to terrorists they take waterboarding to another level. In hazing they only do it for a couple of minutes and they don't strap people down. With terrorists they could do it for hours.

Some people are harder to crack than others. You say it's innefective then you say it's torture. Well which is it? It saved your ass from more attacks to the U.S. and you can't prove it didn't.

[bodah44]

no i say you want it both ways you want to torture people and say its not torture. I say there is no proof that torture saved any lives only a lot of bullshit coming from ex CIA like Tennent who is hardly going to say it is torture the head of FBI said that they were getting better info when they wern't using torture. so all I want is for you to call it what it is: toture: keeping someone awake for 11 days is torture, waterboarding someone 183 times in a month is torture can we agree on that?

[EastSideReaper]

You can't disprove that the methods worked.

Compare what the terrorists did to what we did to the terrorists.

Terrorists: Decapitated our troops

Us: Put their head under water.

[littlebier8]

I love how O'Reilly gets pissed when BOTH of his guests refuse to agree with him.

[lowenklee]

What an unpatriotic asshole. Billy boy never ceases to amaze me with his blantant ignorant unamericanism.

[Dutch2123]

On this O'Reilly is wrong. Torture and Enhanced Interrogation techniques can help you win the battle, but not the war. Winning wars is all about winning hearts and minds. Sometimes, the PR campaign is more important than the strategic campaign. Yes, we have stopped new attacks on the homeland, but we have created a never ending war. A war that breeds new adversaries by the day. To win hearts and minds, you must lead by example!

[seethepatterns]

Amen brother. I wish one of these guests brought up that point because it really is the bottom - and irrefutable - line. The word torture now conjures up images of Unites States flag all over the world thanks to short sighted people like, well we all know who.

[amaduli]

waterboarding is a frat hazing, not torture.

O'Reily is a petulant child, getting pissed when he doesn't hear what he wants from his guests. They're lucky he didn't cut off their mics.

[chevydriver1123]

Cutting off the mic of a former Army Captain wouldnt play well even among his group of supporters.

[MooseOfReason]

David got a "maybe" out of Bill O'Reilly. That is impressive.

[chairde]

When you waterboard someone 183 times at what point do you realize that it is not working? The reason for this was because Bush et al wanted a reason to invade Iraq. It took 193 times until the victim discovered what they wanted him to say. Oh by the way there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So the waterboarding information was no good and just a scam to invade Iraq.

[EastSideReaper]

If we don't use tough interrogation methods then how are we supposed to get information out of the terrorists.

The liberals don't realize that giving them milk and cookies won't get any information out of them. The interrogation methods aren't as bad as they are trying to make it sound. The terrorists decapitated our troops. Waterboarding is child's play compared to what happened to our troops.

[rfarmer474]

Do you disbelieve that there is a threat? Is there really no enemy in your mind? If the people who keep you safe decide not to, what do you propose? Those who want to do us harm shout with glee as they cut the head off of a prisoner. The very idea that torture does not work defies good sense. You are telling me that you would send the enemy on a goose chase after watching them cut the head off your cell mate for doing so? There are decisions in life that we cannot afford to be wrong on.

[33115566]

We come to this attitude not as people at war concerned about our people being tortured, but as a 'classified' government that runs endless covert operations, denies our agent's existence and expects them to die without a word.

[motherlegion6]

It's funny because Obama's director of national intelligence released a memo last week that says that waterboarding the terrorists led to "high value" information, this is why Obama will not try to prosecute CIA officials for saving people's lives.

[Invirtuo]

Bill O'Reilly is such a dick!! haha! it's great tho!

[mopo80]

torture the hell out of those sons a bitches

[Kad5]

Your forgetting that some of the people in guantanamo weren't even terrorists.

They weren't given trial so potentially they could jsut pick up a random nearby goat farmer in afghanistan and send them to guantanamo and torture them.

[2008goo]

Guess what, internet patriots and tough guys? After being tortured, people will say ANYTHING. "Are you planning to bomb (insert location) next?" Hell yes. I am an orange. You are my God. We're gonna bomb everything! Just make it stop."

[starhikers]

Not using techniques to get people to talk would likely result in our country having another 9/11. You might feel differently if one of your children, your Mom or even you, experienced being incinerated in a high rise building.....grow up!

[chairde]

Torture is illegal, immoral and not effective. It is wrong every single time no matter who does it and for whatever reason. Waterboarding is torture by everyone's definition in every court system in the world. The Justice Department is legally bound to pursue this issue, investigate, charge and conduct the necessary trials. If that means that former high ranking official go to jail then so be it. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!

[EastSideReaper]

It saved the country from anymore attacks after 9/11.

What are we supposed to do? Give them sundaes and slushies and let them relax in a five star hotel? That won't do a damn thing.

[chairde]

Torture NEVER gave good information. Simply because the victim will say anything to get it to stop. We executed Japanese after WWII because they waterboarded American soldiers. It is illegal and immoral. There are no excuses for torture and actually no good reason.

[EastSideReaper]

Tell us how we should get information out of the terrorists.

Can't wait for this....

[chairde]

The Army field manual covers this. Also the FBI are very good and experienced at getting information without torture. We never used torture in WWI or WWII and still got plenty of information from people. People confess and give good information to the police and FBI all the time. We even have a witness protection program set up so people can start a new life under a new name. Mafia members confess all the time for reduced sentences and the state takes good care of their wife and children.

[EastSideReaper]

But what are the methods used to get that information? I'm pretty sure the FBI doesn't just give them a 'stern talking to'.

They probably put some type of fear in the criminals.

[chairde]

The FBI has done a real fine study of how to question suspects. The best proof is their record of success without the use of torture. Torture does not and never has produced good reliable information and once done no other methods can be used. If you take out your emotion for revenge you will do better at getting information. Not to mention the fact that it is illegal.

[MooseOfReason]

It saved us from attacks?

Can you prove that?

Also, no one's suggesting giving them sundae's or putting them in a hotel. People are suggesting we follow our rule of law, and international laws that we've agreed to.

[EastSideReaper]

I personally can't show you proof it worked. You can't prove it didn't work.

What are those laws? Everyone says to not "torture" (that's exaggerating it) the terrorists but never say what action we should take. Tell me a better way to get information out of them.

[MooseOfReason]

So we don't know whether the policies kept us safe. Neither of us can say "true" or "false".

The Geneva Conventions:

"To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;

(b) taking of hostages;

(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment;"

[MooseOfReason]

Sorry, I ran out of room in my other comment.

There's also the UN Conventions Against Torture.

There's historical precedence, since we prosecuted a Japanese officer a couple years after World War II for practicing waterboarding.

How about the Army Field Manual?

[endless66]

cheney did not want to tell the truth as vp - now he wants the administration to disclose what the bush administration would not

[Thorbie]

O'Reilly: Ok let's try this again...I'm going to keep asking you until you agree with me. Do you agree with me now? now? now? What if i restate my own scenario again? no? now? how about now? lol

[hayesism]

He should've tried pulling the ol' rabbit season / duck season one on em.

[gochr1s]

lawls...beautiful.

[gajoset]

Why can no one just say, "No. No, I would NOT have tortured someone to 'save American lives' and if I did make such a decision it would have been wrong" ?

I have a feeling that what these torture sessions did was get some guy to say there would be an attack, and then when there wasn't an attack, the intel guys were like, "Hey, we prevented an attack!"

[bertinotti]

I think what the Captain should have said was as follows: If there was a specific iminent threat, and we knew or were very sure that the people we had were knowledgeabel of this imminent threat, and NO alternative interrogation techniques worked, THEN and only THEN could torture be used. The points O'Reilly shouted over (on purpose) were that (i) we could have obtained the information by means short of torture; (ii) the threats that were averted were not of the ticking time bomb nature.

[Elasaltaculos]

that is what I gathered as well. Just torturing people because they might have information produces no results.

It is different than if a person x, planted a bomb that is going to go off in a certain amount of time, and that the people in charge know this information beforehand and need specifics. I could understand how that seeking that type of specific info would be effective.

Indiscriminately waterboarding people who may not know anything will lead to fabricated answers.

[mcgrawtim123]

O'Reilly has to be the worst interviewer in the world. I'm afraid he's going to interrupt me as I write this.

[dickeypjeep]

LOL No kidding. Its not an interview if you are simply stating your opinion; Its an argument.

[mcgrawtim123]

Why did the CIA burn the tapes of the torture sessions if they worked and saved American lives?

[mcgrawtim123]

zeihan slips, "Terror is awful for that, I'm sorry, I mean torture."

[mpapile]

These fearmongering statements by the bush apologists are very dangerous. If you think of it, Hitler made people believe that jews presented a danger to germany, and then people went down the slippery slope and we all know what happened then. I really get scared when the government pretty much tells us to allow them to disregard the laws of our country for some unspecified dangers.

[nyguy]

These assholes are trying to say that torture works and should be used to prevent terrorism even if it's illegal. By the same token, one can claim that robbing banks works and yet it's illegal. The key word here is "illegal". You torture people you go to jail, as simple as that.

[nolocus]

OReilly is awful.

[harshy07]

And today's show is brought to by the letter O: as in OWNED. He asks them questions, then when they have good points, quickly talks over them to redirect the conversation. He proves nothing. His guests often do. At least people only see him as what he is: an ass, and a hell of a lot of entertainment.

[mpapile]

Unfortunately not everyone sees him this way. If you listen to hannity, rush etc they all do the same thing. Present one sided arguments and yell over them with strawman arguments like the ticking nuclear bomb scenario etc. At least this case he brought on competent people who can hold there own up, but often he has either a guest that agrees with him 100% or some fool to represent the counter point.

[TruthsHidden]

Bill hates to be proven wrong - "Pompous Ass" - Don't you just want to water board him.

[ejgnandt]

No lives were saved by torture. The information would have been leaked by now.

[harryogre]

Well done Dave!

Well done.

[starfireucsd]

haha i have never seen o'reily that much frustrated. you lose this one, o'reily.

Good job, captain and mr. zeihan.

[torresut]

Are't you glad this idiot is not a politician, again, it's sad that we have politician with the same mentality of O'really. He's such an jack ass.

[bighitter42]

Jack ass? Yes. Partisan asshat? Yes. Often wrong and ideologically inconsistent? Yes. Idiot? Nope. He's very smart.

[CountArtha]

Exterminating every madrassa in Saudi Arabia would save American lives too. Maybe we should do away with the silly taboo that says we can't do that.

[unodepoalli]

If O'Reilly became the president of the United States then we are really screwed

[migkillertwo]

this coming from a small-government libertarian, I'd rather have Obama

[HarryNRubin]

"Coerced Interrogation" what a joke! Watch out when Bill becomes impatient! And I like that Bush is writing his memoirs; the commercial for it will be "Were people tortured during the Bush administration? You'll have to buy the book to find out! Only twelve easy payments of $9.95!"