Battleship KMS Bismarck

[bestamerica]

'

why not take this warship can bring back to dry dock and put together then show museum at navy area or ship port

[notsureyou]

@bestamerica

ummmm its a bit too deep to be salvaged for the technology that we have atm.

Bismarck is at a depth of 4791m (4.79km) or in American measurement 17,500ft

[bestamerica]

notsureyou,

'

okay thank explain,,,

no matter how deep it is,,,

go ahead pick up whole warship to dry dock as possible

[666crazytrain1]

@bestamerica agree ! it was a great ship for me it is the most beautiful ever created and it is a waste to be left there ! they raised u boats ... they died ppl in them! so whay they can t raise the bismarck ? there are some kind of technology to raise it ! we r almost 2012 !

[roaklin]

@666crazytrain1 She is to deep, to badly damaged and buried in the mud of the bottom to her own waterline to even remotely consider trying to bring her up. The cost of brining her up are astronomical and uneconomical. It also would never happen given her Nazi origins. There is also the fact she is a war grave and her crew deserves to be allowed to rest in peace and not brung up because of some historical toruists want to walk her deck. We do not have that RIGHT to do that as we didn't die on her

[bestamerica]

666crazytrain1,

'

okay thank explain,,,

yes i wish this big ship can lift up and bring to ship show,,,

no matter how deep ocean floor

[RI7878]

You made memorial of "piece of steel" that's all. It was designed, built and used against peace, it was a wapon. Why you didn't make memorial of Hood?

[roaklin]

@RI7878 You mean like the one I already did that predates THIS tribute? If you're going to get self righteous get your facts first.

[KYLEMORICE]

Ruhe in Frieden bismarck you served your purpose well. you were a tough battleship..kyle

[TheMarlboroman73]

Best and Beauty Battleship forever R.I.P Bismarck and Matrosen ;-) Die Bismarck wurde schwer Beschädigt aber keine Treffer drangen in lebenswichtige Berreiche ein nur die Waffen vielen aus und deshalb kam der Befehl zu selbstversenkung das ist Tatsache laut vielen Berichten Büchern und Überlebenden.

Es gab kein Schiff was zäher war als die Bismarck oder technologisch weiter entwickelt war . Letztendlich mußte sie passen bei so einer Überzahl der anderen.

[Basti6814]

This Ship is a legend!

Rest in Peace Bismarck

Ich bin stolz auf dich und auf die Soldaten, die auf dir gedient haben.

Ruhed in Frieden, wir werden euch nie Vergessen

[motorguzzi100]

@Basti6814 Yes she is a legend  hms Hood made her one a legend

[dallas184]

i wonder what would it would have looked like if it was still around today

[lander4545]

@dallas184 The video shows you what it looks like today.

[thebritish25]

@dallas184 supposing she surrvived the war she whould most likley have been used for nuclear tests or sold for scrap,

[roaklin]

@thebritish25 Id place bets on nuclear tests being they did that with the Prinz Eugen and a few Jap battlewagons. I got to admit I'd be curious to see how she held up.

[keinraffvonnix]

@roaklin  it would be a kind of museum-ship today, i guess. if the allies could get the Bismarck, it would be like finding a tresure, way to expensive to burn it for a nuc-test. it would be around the statue of libetry somewhere, as a sign that war sucks.

[himmler251]

alone and agains insurrmountable odds the bismarck held her ground and she and her crew fought till the last rounds, rest in peace bismarck crew

[SuperAncientmariner]

All that a lack of implosion indicates is that the hull had filled with water 100%

( I meant water inside is at the same pressure as outside) I have no doubt that any scuttling charges accelerated the sinking process rather than initiating it, therefore she was in a sinking state....how did that happen. Having lost a relation in Hood, I've been studying this since I was 14 , I'm now in my 60s and read and heard much especially during my navy days. Dont rely so much on "interviews

[SuperAncientmariner]

You wanted to know who said these things , I'm telling you. I also suggest you read Dr Micheal Epkanhans who explains that German warships were under strict instructions to fight to the last shell-until they went under, also that they were forbiden to surrender. So they would have set scuttling charges whether the ship was sinking or not. Regarding implosion. ..If a hull is full of water implosion will not occur, because the water inside the hull is equal to the water outside the hull...cont

[SuperAncientmariner]

As for M-R "saving his skin", he stayed at his post until the order to abandon was relayed to him by Statz who was answering M-R' s question .."Who is in command, what orders are in force?". Oels' order to scuttle came to the engine room via Walter Lehmann (chief eng.)

Otto Peters(ERA) states that the the ship was in a sinking condition before the abandon order. .There is no doubt the ship was sinking and IF the crew set the charges, it accelerated her sinking rather than initiating it....cont

[roaklin]

I asked for you to show me where these interviews are, didn't ask for the "facts" as you present them. I have never stated the ship's crew were the only ones responsible for her sinking. I long ago concluded the sinking was a mutual effort by both sides. The RN blasted big holes in her and her own crew making sure she wouldn't be captured. Examination of the wreck has shown lack of imploded compartments showing scuttling was a factor or hull would have been in much worse shape aka Hood's wreck.

[SuperAncientmariner]

Please may I put this fact into the argument to make of what you will.....

ALL survivors of the Bismark, inc. Mullenheim-Rechberg, senior surviving officer, have all stated that she was sinking before any order to scuttle, and would have eventually sunk through the damage received.

[roaklin]

-Show me an interview they say that. I have seen hours of interviews and never heard or even read where one said she was doing that. Also Mullenheim-Rechberg was an artillery officer and was busy saving his own skin at the time so IF he didn't hear the scuttle order it was due to being a bit "busy" at the time on a warship under attack I doubt the order to scuttle would be relayed to someone who had no part of that procedure any how.

[SuperAncientmariner]

@roaklin Have you read the admiralty records of interviews with the survivors. Hienz Jucknat and Gerhard Junack speak of "air pressure rising within the hull beforeCommander Oels gave the order to abandon ship , followed shortly after by the order to set scuttling charges" Now, having spent 38 odd years at sea, a rise in air pressure, to me, indicates a sinking ship. Joseph Stats speaks of seeing from the damage conrol lights, compartments filling before the scuttling charges went off......cont

[Tronor123]

Im a bismarck/tirpitz fan love the story for the 2 strongest ship that did make fear over the the British navy

[zhaviator]

i am a Bismarck fan...but i think that the american "lowa" class were the fastest and most powerful battleships...

[Basti6814]

Rest in Peace Bismarck

you are a great legend and we never forgett you!

Ruhe in Frieden

[SMSSeydlitz]

According to the Royal Navy records: "Oscar, the Bismarck's cat, finished his days at the Home for Sailors in Belfast in 1955."

[SMSSeydlitz]

Oscar was again one of the survivors. Oscar was then taken to the crew of the aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal and became their mascot. But only three weeks later HMS Ark Royal was also torpedoed and sunk by another German submarine. And again, Oscar survived but after this event the British sailors never allowed the cat to be a mascot for any other ship again and Oscar was brought to the office of the port commander of Gibraltar.

[SMSSeydlitz]

The story of Oscar, a lucky black cat, seems unbelieveable, but it is true. After the Bismarck was sunk on 27 May 1941 the British destroyer HMS Cossack entered the battle area a few hours later. Between dead bodies and floating debris they found a freezing black cat on a piece of wood. They rescued the cat and named it Oscar. Oscar remained on board and became their mascot. But the cat was really not a talisman and five months later HMS Cossack was torpedoed and sank.

[Sentinel2k6]

The Hull and the Belt armor are still intackt, the found no impackt that penetratet the Armor.

I think she was sinked by her own crew, and not from a Torpedo hit.

(I'm sorry 4 my bad english skills^^ )

[redneck8431]

The fact that it took the British so much to sink her makes her even greater

[DontScatter]

i find it sad that a ship of such beastly capabilities was sunk so quickly.

[bighairybiker45]

the reason she was sunk so quickly was because the germans skuttled her instead of risking her falling into british hands

[DontScatter]

and she was torpedoed at almost the same time

[crpdst2003]

@DontScatter

torpedo hit as she rolled over and hit maindeck amidships near the catapault so she was sinking before Dorestshire torpedo but Bismarck was hit by Rodneys torpedo(only case a BB hitting another with a torp....) near misses act like torpedos and are far more likely to hit under the Belt... bigger warhead too... area not seen since Bismarck settled into mud that deep...WWI Warspite almost sunk that way...

[cart13]

i am german , and i am also a passionate model builder, i have build all the german navel ships as models. and my biggest one os The Bismark. shes 30 inches long . i dont care what people say, but she was a beauty, same as her sister ship. The Tirpitz.

[roaklin]

A "modernized" Bismarck class would not look out of place in today's navies. Swap out her smaller AAs for vulcans and SAMs, a chopper pad at her stern and she'd be good to go. Lets see Somilan pirates jack ships with something like her on patrol.

[cart13]

that would be really good . make it a little bigger , or at least make it more stable for impacts. if my english sucks im sorry im german . but id love the idea of a modern sisterhood of The Bismarck and The Tirpitz.

[roaklin]

Well the Bismarck class was already an execeptionally stable gun platform, so wider wouldn't need to be done, I'd concentrate more on her machniery (modern engines maybe even nuke powered, modern computers, radar etc). And dont worry about your English beats the hell out of my German.

[bv141a]

before you rebuild the bismarck[her and her sister were hugh wastes of $ and lives the first time]why does germany need a navy?Blackwater subcontracts.

[roaklin]

who said build the ships for Germany this time around? Defense Patrol ships for hire, with the guns and equipment to do the job. As for needing such big guns, with every other battleship now as a musem ship imagine the contracts for bombardment you could bid for, and nothing scares pirates more then a ship with way bigger guns at anchor off their harbor going , 'care to give us those ships back now before we pummel you into oblivion?"

[bv141a]

More creepy things in the works than bb's,stealth kenetic gun platforms,with robotic aricraft and gunships helo's.Nuke weapons ruled out armor plate,in a lessend atomic playing field some sort of armored ship might come back.Rail guns need big ships

[cart13]

thanks, i have to say that i love the older looks . not like the new modern warfare looks. but i know the new supposed to be good , but heck i love the ww2 looks

[bv141a]

if Lutjens had at least topped of her fuel tanks,instead of lingering under clear Norwegian sky's,had slipped out of the Baltic by Kiel canal,instead of showing off to Swedes,or best of all.Waited for Tirpitz

[roaklin]

The canal was avoided because it was always under observation and he wasn't showing her off to the swedes, swedan was suppose to be neutral but reported Bismarck's passing on to England anyhow. Waiting for Tirpitz was out of the question given the operational needs at the time and the risk the ship could be damaged while in Port from RAF bombing raids like what had already happened to other German warships.

[bv141a]

tirpitz was ready,maybe not up to the conservative standerds of the kreigsmarine,but allied ships had gone to sea with green crews,trial by fire.

[roaklin]

The German Navy tried that with Blucher in Norway and look how well that turned out for them. They were not going to risk the same thing with a battleship.

[bv141a]

all her guns were disabled,her upperworks wrecked,and she couldn't steer.Bismarcks citidel was intact ,but what good it did her?

[berlinmitte10117]

There are some depressingly inaccurate and ill founded opinions attached to this. The Bismarck was indeed scuttled by her crew after taking tremendous punishment from HMS King George V and HMS Rodney.

[roaklin]

There is no inaccurarces in the video, she was wounded, corenered and pounded tom pieces. She was scuttled by her crew, the British pounded her to scrap metal if you bothered to watch the entire video I stated that.

[vnck25]

I disagree, leave behind children not even grown ups know what you are describing, however Bismarck sank the way you described. The British ships were so close to Bismarck that they couldnt get any "Plungging fire" on to the deck of Bismarck thus it was immune to British shells shot at small elevations.

[ArgoPloetz]

best and most beautiful ship ever

[Basti6814]

"This is a memorial to a lengend of a ship.Any "Your a Nazi" comments will be deleted. "

the most german soldiers wasn´t nazis!

they were normal soldiers...

only the SS soldiers are nazis

[vnck25]

I agree, The German Navy was very different, even Hilter sometimes didnt understand the way and the customs of the Navy. I think Lindermann ( Capt of the Bismarck ) was Jewsih.

[roaklin]

At no point in the video does it show Bismarck being blown into two parts. At the end she is battered, burning and slowly rolling over to port as she goes under.

[roaklin]

What are you talking about? I never said Bismarck wqas blown into two two pieces. READ the post.

[bismarck729]

this is a good video. bismarck was the finest and the largest battleship of the kriegsmarine and obviously packed a deadly punch.

[roaklin]

Thank you. I also have a video of her sister ship Tirptiz. These ships altered the course of the war in ways that will never be fully understood I believe. Not in the damage they could have done, but the sheer amount of effort, energy and material the Allies tied up to deal with these TWO warships.

[srylnglycouple]

INCREDIBLE SHIP!!! ive read many books on this magnificent ship from start to its doom... INCREDIBLE STORY!!! and what a beast!!

[Basti6814]

the KMS Bismarck was a gerat Ship!!

very impressive and beautiful!!!

KMS Bismarck

Ruhe in Frieden

wir werden euch nie vergessen....

[callieandkelsie]

your no nazi your just trying to say germans are not hitler wershipers!!!

[3friend]

Yup-no air cover or escorts-Prinz Eugen departed-no chance on her own-beautiful looking ship though.

[roaklin]

Prinz Eugen was sent off to continue the mission. Even if she had stayed wh Bismark, she wouldn't have done much good against the combined firepower of TWO battleships, heavy cruisers and an air strike that didn't move in because so many shells where flying. She would have been sunk as well.

[robinhood48]

@roaklin

You are correct concerning the final battle. But PE could have helped to defend Bismarck against the Swordfish. Without the hit into the rudder transmission Bismarck and Prinz Eugen would have reached Brest, my opinion.

But the war itself was lost for Germany also with Bismarck in Brest. We should not forget that the capital ships had to be withdrawn through the channel to avoid air attacks to destroy them!

BTW 5 stars.

[golf7272]

Bismarck was doomed before she put to sea. No escorts and no air cover. Bismarck just became nothing more than a target. Beautiful ship however.

[Riku1135]

regardless of what side she fought for, she was still a battleship lost in the fires of war, taking human lives down with her.

5 stars.

[Meerjungfrau19]

Great Work

rest in peace Bismarck

[vlaemink]

awesome ship! As usual, numbers prevailed.

[tony2444]

really scary

[dbrs1962]

A gallant ship and a valiant crew.

[TitanicMatthew]

SWEETNESS~! 5/5 Stars. This Is Awesome~!