I remember this ad, they're taking a fucking long time to catch me, 51 years so far 145 quid a year from everyone in the UK when everyone else in the world can get the BBC for free, totally wrong, then they send their goons out harassing people the threatening they'll be fined and left with a criminal record, arseholes !!!
the only how these cunts know what your watching is when the cheeky bastards look through your window well i would love one of them to look through my window and catch me up to my balls in his wife while shes bending over the sofa looking straight back at him.
..it really is about time everyone stands by each other and stops all this bollocks!, i mean how did the BBC get away with bullshit adverts like this!, enough is enough..
Thers a telly on in the bedroom......the user is flicking through the channels - must be the husband............waqit there another telly on in the lounge.....shes watching coronation st..........oh,, there's another in the kitchen,, the kids are watching Blue Peter...........
"Courts cannot convict without evidence, and evidence cannot be heard unless it is available to both prosecution and defence. Since TVL/BBC is unwilling to divulge the inner workings of a detector van, its evidence cannot be used in a prosecution."
To my knowledge, no-one has ever been proved guilty of not having a tv licence based upon the results gathered from using TVL detection technology. In a court of law, they would not be able to provide this evidence without showing how they obtained and by what method. Now, if, if, they did have the technology, they would not need to send anyone out to homes which didn't have a tv licence. It defeats thte object.
@martynblackburn1977 Well how do you propose they find out who is watching or recording live TV without using one of these things? And there's no "if" about it. I've been out in these things to test their accuracy and reliability and I can certainly assure you now that they do work, and they do work very well!
@AidanLunn They don't. They send letters addressed to "present occupier" with an address attached. If they haven't recieved a name to this address, they assume you don't have a licence, so they keep sending letters, and then they call round. They need your name. In my case, they already had my name. There is no evidence that these vans contain such technology. And even if they had the technology, it cannot be used in court. They have to catch you using the tv by consent only.
@martynblackburn1977 As the IF stage signals can be received outside your house and in public property such as a street, technically, they can legally catch you watching TV without your consent.
I've got evidence (circuit diagrams) if you can make sense of them (circuit reading skills would be required) but I've signed the Official Secrets Act with regard to his technology, so unfortunately, I'm not allowed to show anyone else. Most inconvenient, really, because it really is fascinating tech.
@AidanLunn This is all theoretical. There is no physical evidence, and non which can be taken to court, to prove that they can catch someone using their tv during live broadcasts. If they can catch you, why haven't they used this evidence in court? I'm afraid you or the TVL must come up with evidence, or else it can be dismissed. And this technology you know of, can also be dismissed because it has not been proven publically to exist. And it has not been put before a court.
@martynblackburn1977 If there is no physical evidence, then I wonder what those massive piles of electronics I designed were? There's a world of difference between there being evidence, and showing it.
I've told you why not. It's a copyrighted design. I'm not going to come up with evidence for anyone - Official Secrets Act.
If you wish to dismiss something that hasn't yet been proven, then fine. But out of me and you, it won't be me who ends up with egg on my face when they are proven.
@AidanLunn There's no evidence because they haven't produced it before prosecution and defense. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. Untill there is clear evidence that this technology exists, I can dismiss it. And I am dismissing it. It just doesn't exist. When they are proven? They've never been proven. I think your talking out your arse now. Seriously.
@AidanLunn No it does not. It does not exist. Are you wroking for the BBC? This technology does not exist. It has never been used in a court trial. Dodos did exist because we have documented evidence including photographs of the actual bird, unlike this technology. You have some privileged access to this technology? You must be propaganda employee for the BBC.
@martynblackburn1977 As I already said, if they don't exist, ten what was I researching, designing and testing in late 2007? No, I work for ITV Leeds (formerly known as Yorkshire Television) currently, though I worked for Ikegami at the time - major manufacturers of broadcast equipment. And TVL is under the wing of Crapita, not the BBC. As for the Dodo, we have photos of stuffed animals & paintings, but as the things were wiped out in the 17th Century, we don' have any photographs of the things.
@martynblackburn1977 And what logic do you use to incorrectly presume I'm an employee of Auntie Beeb? Pretty shambolic logic it seems. As I said, ITV is my employer. I have never worked directly for the BBC, whether that be through choice or not.
@AidanLunn Not shambolic logic. First, you claim to have special access to this "technology" (I'm sure you have interviewers turning up at your door), then you continue supporting their case without any evidence whatsover, and now you call them "Auntie Beeb".
@martynblackburn1977 Case open actually. I have special access to it because I was one of the developers. You, evidently, weren't, and even if I showed you the circuit diagrams, without wishing to insult your intelligence, I doubt you'd understand it.
I don't have them turning up at my door because I state to them that I'm not allowed to show them the proof. What's so hard to understand that I worked on the tech, it *does* exist, but I'm not allowed to show it to you with the BBC's permission?
@AidanLunn So why won't the TVL or the developers (like yourself presumably) tell us what this technology is, and why no-one has ever been convicted using the data from this technology. You can't prosecute someone without evidence. Evidence must be presented. There is no evidence that this technology exists, and I cannot take your word for it without evidence. Show me the evidence first and then I'll believe it.
@AidanLunn untrue and not revealing the fact that in order to identify recievers of these chanels(liability goes to person not address) then it would be hard to prove. the bbc have long relied on either people admiting to ,registering tvs,any device capable of recieving the programming at point of sale(no id required) without the ability or cooperation of cable/freeview box digital subscriber services tagging users or id'ing them via other means the bbc are powerless.
@jcmmc I'm confused. Which of my comments are you replying to?
Oh yeah, they rely on other methods as well as the TV detector vans.. And cable boxes and Freeview boxes, even the newest ones, can't "tag" users - they'd need the box o do that as far as I can see, and the technology inside even the newest boxes won't be able to do that. Even the newest HD boxes have rather primitive technology inside them.
@AidanLunn They don't It doesn't exist. None of it exists. You didn't develop the technology, because it doesn't exist. And there is no technology in those vans at all.
@martynblackburn1977 Look, I've worked on, tested & designed them. If you want to go around living in a fantasy land pretending that these things don't exist then go ahead, I'm sick and tired of trying to get the fact that they do exist through your stubborn head.
The fact is, they do exist, I'm not allowed to prove it.
It looks like we're not going to agree on this, even though I have the experience and memories to say I'm right, so we're just going to have to agree to disagree.
@AidanLunn They don't exist. What cannot be proved can be dismissed until there is evidence brought forward. If you are going to assert that something exists without evidence and expect me to believe it, then you might as well be selling snake oil and pretending you invented it.
@martynblackburn1977 Just because something hasn't been proven to exist yet doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. You might as well claim that aliens don't exist because they haven't been proven yet. Sound ridiculous? No more ridiculous than your theory.
If something can be physically touched, like TV detection equipment can, then it exists.
Oh God I used to fall for this horse's shite in the 80s and 90s! Seriously, people, it's bollocks. Those letters start to repeat themselves in cycles. You get one a month, and after a few months it goes back to the first style of letter.
Gradually the letters build up to a red bordered scary looking thing I think. Any
way, the guys come out, you ignore the door, and a fortnight later, you get another toothless letter in the style of the very first one you ever recieved.
How the hell would they even know if the house had a front room, for all they know it could just be completely open space!
Maybe the BBC has the power to get the house plans from the land registry or wherever so that they can pinpoint which room you are likely to place a TV, then they can send their boys round to peek through the window!
@MIKON8ERISBACK The technology exists because it detects the emitted radiation from the intermediate frequency stage of a TV with a super-heterodyne tuner, which all TVs, analogue or digital, have.
@martynblackburn1977 Because it's a copyrighted design? Or *shock, horror*, because they're allowed to efuse FOI requests? It's a request, not a demand.
@martynblackburn1977 I don't see why they'd be laughed out of court. It would be proof that the criminal has been watching television. It's very, very precise!
@martynblackburn1977 They haven't proven it because it's a copyrighted design that they don't want to share.
I'll tell you how I know. I've worked as a hardware developer when Ikegami were developing the latest ones.
And my dad and grandad used to be/is TV & video R&D engineers for Thorn-EMI and Sony respectively. It's quite basic science and thus not hard to understand how these things can, quite accurately, detect IF signals using high gain, highly directional log periodic antennas.
@AidanLunn Then they cannot use it in a court of law. It cannot be used as evidence. To prove that someone has committed a crime, you need to show evidence. Since the TVL withdraw this evidence, because they won't let out what this technology is and how it works, and how they obtained the results, it cannot be used as evidence.
@martynblackburn1977 I'm not debating that fact, seeing as I was the one who stated why they don't use that evidence. But they could if they wanted to change their mind.
@AidanLunn But they don't. they don't use it. And that was my intial point. If they wanted to they could. Yes. But until they show it, no-one can be found guilty of not having a tv licence through using this technology. Without evidence of its existence, it simply can be dismissed before a court of law.
@0muffins0 A monitor technically doesn't have a tuner, but something that it'll need to receive broadcast transmissions will have a tuner and thus will be detectable, things like digiboxes, DVD recorders, VCRs, PVRs etc.
@0muffins0 Nah. Internet TV can't be detected by TV detector vans, but they can still find out by looking at your internet history from your ISP. You still need a TVL for live viewing on the internet, i.e. playing a programme on the internet as it is being transmitted on TV.
@AidanLunn The internet providers do not have to comply (data protection act and all that).
If TV detectors worked there would not be the need for visits or search warrants to test equipment. If TV detectors worked then people like me who are TV free would not be constantly hassled by obnoxious threatening letters and rude overbearing visiting 'officers'.
@0muffins0 They don't have to but it makes them look bad if they do what the public may think is breaking the law.
They do work, however, they still need to search a house so that they can check that whatever they picked up is TV receiving equipment and to check if it is connected to an aerial of some sort (including cable). Radios, wireless routers and those wireless things that plug directly into the mains can be picked up by the equipment. They use tunable RF frequencies as well.
@AidanLunn I thought you said that they work. If they can't differentiate from all the other electrical clutter, and can't tell if the equipment is connected to an aerial or not, then the detectors don't work.
Admit it, they don't exist. If they did exist then they would not need either visits or warrants and I wouldn't get retards bashing on my door like nazi goons.
@0muffins0 They are doing the job they were designed to do, so they work. They were designed to detect the radiated output from the IF frequency stage. Not to detect whether the thing is connected to an aerial or not. The IF stage is active all the time the TV is on, whether or not its connected to anything. It wasn't designed to detect if an aerial is connected because that's not possible - yet.
They do exist. As I've repeated over and over again like a stuck vinyl, I've worked on hem.
@0muffins0 As I said, they only have literally no more than 5, due to the cost of the equipment, that's why they are so rare to see and thus why people think they're imaginary.
And they can differentiate - they can be adjusted to any IF, as different TVs use different frequencies. But because the output is exactly the same - electromagnetic interference - it can't differentiate between types of signal except analogue or digital encoding.
@0muffins0 The letters are sent out automatically by a PC at TVL HQ, so they're just empty threats. I'm surprised this is still happening! I thought they fixed that problem ages ago!
They do work, but because the equipment is so expensive as it is custom built, they only have three or four, and I think they have to get a local council's permission to operate in a certain area.
The officers really are a joke in themselves - there was a brilliant skit on The Young Ones parodying them!
Electronic information has never been used, because successive FOI requests have met with refusal to define their methods under opt out clauses. If the public are denied access to such methodology, it cannot be used against you in legally.
The only way they catch people is to gain access and or obtain a signed statement of admission.
TVL inspectors have no more right to access than a gas meter reader and you can remove their implied right of access as soon as you speak to them.
classic! blatant scare tactics! If they had the technology back then they should have even more advanced detection gear now.....so why have the TV licensing people got to come into your house to check!!
We as a nation need to stand up against The BBC Tele Tax.
We as a nation need to stop watching the BBC channels.
We as a nation will be united by not watching them.
We as a nation will be £145.50 a year better off.
We as a nation can use that on getting our economy moving.
We as a nation can win this war.
Continue to pay The Tele Tax for now. You're not breaking the law by not watching the BBC channels. You can watch any other channel. Just don't watch the BBC channels.
The Nazis used this sort of propaganda, the Khmer Rouge used this sort of propaganda, the Burmese Junta uses this sort of propaganda, Robert Mugabe uses this sort of propaganda, the Chinese government uses this sort of propaganda.. do I really need to explain what I'm getting at?
funny enough they have american hummer jeeps with big antenna's on like that can microwave people over a distance now, wonder if you need a sound weapons license?
WE CATCH 1,000 EVADERS PER DAY.... err, so that's 365,000 heathen law- breaking scum per year. Multiplied by ten, that's about... humm.... over 3 MILLION people between 2000 and today? They are amongst us in great multitudes! We must find these criminals NOW, fellow citizens and denounce them!!!!!!
@LinesMoko I've been frustrated for years, mainly by idiots like yourself without single solitary working brain cell. Soto ease the boredom, I like to have a little fun with you to see how long I can keep you on the line. :-)
I don't bother particularly wasting my time correcting typos for idiots like you, as with your standard of spelling it's obvious that you understand what i'm getting at.
I type quickly, but not necessarily accurately. This is not a Pitman's accuracy test.
Its an outrage that everyone should pay for this 3rd rate channel i NEVER watch any of the BBC channels so why am i forced to pay for a service i choose not to use. Can you imagine Sky sending out to every person in the UK without a dish or cable connection demanding they pay up NOW!!
"there's also a TV set in number 6 as well... and number 7... and number 8... and number 9... possibly number 10, but I can't tell, I'm just sitting in the back of a van with a couple of giant clothes hangers on the top, looking at some kind of machine that isn't even switched on, spouting some bullshit from a script"
@wasssuppp08 And at number 69 in the bedroom over looking the back garden the licence evaders husband is getting a blow job from the tv licence enforcers daughter
@wasssuppp08 You should not have to pay a penny, they should self finance just like the other TV channels do. You do know that they are making money also from the youtube partnership programme. But why have you bought a licence. You don't watch TV, but you say you pay for one. Just because you have a TV does not mean you need a licence.
Look at the Goons get out of the van all ready for an assault on the front door only to have the innocent home owner slam the fucker straight in their face. Join the resistance.
The Licence fee goes up as of 1st April 2010 to: £145-50
Never mind the UKs going through the worst recession in 70 years and everyone is scared to death of losing their jobs, or have lost their jobs, or even having to take pay cuts to stay in work.
Oh NO NO NO this simply doesn't apply to the BBC now does it, TV watching being such a basic necessity of life we just can't do without.
TV detector vans that actually go around detecting TVs and gathering evidence on people to be presented in a court fall in to the same category as the Loch Ness monster and Big Foot.
They are a myth, simple BBC propaganda, not one prosecution has ever been made via the evidence supplied by a so called TV detector van.
I am so scared, I told them to come to my place with a TV dectetor van to catch me watching a TV, I gave them my address, they have not caught me yet.
Sorry I just thought of something else. Did bbc employees ever realise how hated they were before? Nobody ever got the chance to express any hatred. It would just be edited out or they could character assisinate people. Thanks to the internet there's nothing to stop us exposing the truth of what we really think about them. I almost feel sorry for them. Don't tell me they were to nieve to know?
boycott the bbc.what would happen if everyone just refused to have anything to do with watching anything to do with the bbc ? would they still get away with imposing a tv licence fee on us? i don't watch anything bbc. Radio 5 live is pretty good when the sport starts but I often turn that off. I avoid the news whenever that comes on and when they start going on and on about cricket and Tiger Woods. I tried Talk Sport today but it was all about Sir Paul McCartney. Nothing to do with sport.
the feudal system still exists except that now the aristocrats all work for the bbc with their toffee voices lay down the law to us so they can all sit comfortably on their backsides while we do all the hard graft. On lovely my dears.
It's frightening to think nothing I say or do will make any difference. Think of all the jobs that would go if I could make a difference. I can never understand the logic behind keeping businesses going that nobody wants just to save jobs. All that money that goes to prop up Land Rover and Jaguar, cars that don't mean a thing to me because only a few people can afford them anyway?
marmalade net / lime / "This site is about TV Licensing™ (the "television licensing authority") . . . . . . and how they treat those who do not have television."
I went by a smart office block in Burnley ( I think) with CAPITA down the side. It really does make me wonder about the way we percieve the world. All these people that wear ties and fancy suits and work in large office blocks with "good " jobs don't actually do anything important at all. All they do is rip us off.
Ok bbc you win. But i'm still glad i managed to say all the things i wanted to say about you. It amazes me that no one from the bbc tries to defend themselves. You really mean to say they are totally unaware of these videos? I thought I might be done for incitement to murder tvlicence officers but it doesn't seem to bother anyone how vitriolic my attacks are. "Just keep giving us money" and they keep quiet.Where are you cowards? You must know,you're the best news reporters in the world?
The TV licence is really the bbc licence. It's a deliberate effort to distance themselves from the nastiness. If it was called bbc licence people might start asking "Why am I paying to watch bbc when I could just watch all the other channels? If I'm watching Champions League on ITV I'm having to pay twice. Once for the bbc licence and twice to subsidise the cost of all the adverts. "
I got a letter from TVL claiming they'd used a detector to detect a TV in my house. But I don't have a TV, and I do nothing that would require a TV license.
I just added it to my list of TVL's lies (and no, they never followed up on their threats). I don't understand how TVL could win any court case when nothing they say can have any credibility, given their willingness to tell lie after lie.
It's amazing how state tv can somehow feel justified in telling this big lie . Does the end justify the means? Was America right to pretend to land on the moon in order to win the Cold War? This is the bbc. The upholder of truth. Known throughout the world for it's unbiased News. Yet there is no TV standards commission to stop them persuading people to pay a tv licence in this way because it is an absolute lie.
Isn't that so Orwellian? The totalitarian state with the KGB watching your every move. You know the penalty for watching Columbo without a licence. 15years hard labour in the Gulag Archipelago. I told you to stick to Match Of The Day. You could have got away with 5 years in Kazakstan and you would have been out in 2and half with good behaviour.But you wouldn't listen. You just had to watch Columbo. The best of all the programmes on offer.
even if they can detect a tv (which im pretty sure they can't) it dont mean shit, your allowed to own a tv for games consoles, videos, dvds etc. you only have to pay a liecence to watch live broadcasts.
It's an extremely powerful detection system. Those magnetic loops on the roof of the van are massive. The operator can pin-ponit the set at his supreme leisure, and it only leaves the einforcement team to make their way in. It would be hliarious to see the look on the faces of the cheaters when the licence enforcers knock on their door, late one evening.
Thats just bollocks there isnt a single documented case where a detection van has provided evidence for prosecution this is because they are empty and just used to frighten ppl into coughin up.
just had massive court case with capita/tvl prosecution for refusing to pay for a tv licence,wrote out a nine page statement of every law,act,human right act,malicious commercial code broken,how to guy falsified hes statement against the accordance of the law,had enough to send every employee of theris to prison but i still walked out with a fine,im a freeman too,the BBC.capital.tvl and the courts are totally corrupt and biased,if you lived in a mud hut they would find you guilty,tossers!!!
I know for a fact they can't tell if you have a TV or not. I don't have one at uni, yet I get them knocking all the time asking to come in (I never let them, I don't know if they're a criminal or not.) I even got told a detector van had detected a TV in my room. Oh really, thank you for that admission, now I know the vans are complete BS and you just gave the game away.
I have an uncle who used to work for the TV licensing thingy and he told me it was all bullshit, they couldn't tell if you had a television and they certainly couldn't find out what you were watching.
are they legally entitled to search your house or can you just not let them in? I pay my licence but from this ad you would think evaders where terrorists or something!
No, since they're employees of a corporation and not the police they have no more right to enter your house than a double glazing salesman, you have to let them in before they can search your house.
This horseshit was meant to scare people at the time and did work! now they rely on shops passing info of the new TV you just bought. just give a false [pre thought] postcode and waiver your warranty, also never let them into your home, they have no rights!
I know it doesn't work. A mate of mine at uni does not have a TV yet was told, We know you have one the detector van spotted it. Right! Go fuck yourself.
what bullshit these detectors don't exist in the real world, the do exist in the fantasy world such as Alice in Wonderland, and the BBC fantasy channel. Television does not transmit any signals.
untrue - all CRT devices have a local oscillator - this is what they are picking up - how reliable the equipment was is debatable but it did exist in a few vans - they were plenty more decoy vans with nothing int them tho.
I know for a fact that they can't tell if you have a television or not, they MIGHT theoretically have been able to detect electrical impulses from the transformer, but they wouldn't know if it was a TV or a toaster until they searched your house.
True, but the signals given out from a local oscillator are tiny, and can at best be detected from about 2 meters away. Hold a hair dryer up to a CRT TV, it goes weird, because your interfering with the LO. So you still can't tell the difference between a hair dryer and a TV with the equipment if you can get close enough.
There are so many illogical things about this commercial. For example, he said the tv is in the "front room". To know this you would have to either have a detail map of inside every house or you would have to have a technology that can scan a house and determine which one is the "front room". Trust me, if the UK had this kind of technology they wouldn't need vans or hand held meters to track you down. This is all about money and control because BBC decides when and what your going to watch.
They still haven't court me!!! BBC are full of lies. Nowadays they realise that TV detector vans don't con anyone...Neither dose their database! They have no way of proving anything. They lie about their convictions. They never tally.
HA HA HA HA HA FUCKN HA
silkcut59 17 hours ago
They don't work, or even exist. It was a con to make people buy TV licenses. As far as I'm aware, it didn't work.
MultiSoundboy 1 week ago
I remember this ad, they're taking a fucking long time to catch me, 51 years so far 145 quid a year from everyone in the UK when everyone else in the world can get the BBC for free, totally wrong, then they send their goons out harassing people the threatening they'll be fined and left with a criminal record, arseholes !!!
twatlasher 2 weeks ago
That is Fucking Hilarious..!!!! I actually nearly dribbled a bit of piss..!!!! HAHA... Sweet as... :-D
mickwade1 1 month ago
I wonder if Corgi do a TV licence detector van. If so where did they get the design from?
onlywhenpissed 1 month ago
the only how these cunts know what your watching is when the cheeky bastards look through your window well i would love one of them to look through my window and catch me up to my balls in his wife while shes bending over the sofa looking straight back at him.
DETECT THAT YA BASTARD.
THESKULL1979 1 month ago 2
..it really is about time everyone stands by each other and stops all this bollocks!, i mean how did the BBC get away with bullshit adverts like this!, enough is enough..
UK7BRITISH 3 months ago
Imaginary or not, who cares? Seriously.
wesmatron 4 months ago
i pay sky tv i didnt sign a contract with the bbc so they can pop round for a scalding hot cup of tea if they like.
THESKULL1979 4 months ago
@THESKULL1979 i like that you said scalding :D
DisasterRasta 1 month ago
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THESKULL1979 4 months ago
Thers a telly on in the bedroom......the user is flicking through the channels - must be the husband............waqit there another telly on in the lounge.....shes watching coronation st..........oh,, there's another in the kitchen,, the kids are watching Blue Peter...........
spottydog4477 4 months ago
"Courts cannot convict without evidence, and evidence cannot be heard unless it is available to both prosecution and defence. Since TVL/BBC is unwilling to divulge the inner workings of a detector van, its evidence cannot be used in a prosecution."
This.
martynblackburn1977 4 months ago
To my knowledge, no-one has ever been proved guilty of not having a tv licence based upon the results gathered from using TVL detection technology. In a court of law, they would not be able to provide this evidence without showing how they obtained and by what method. Now, if, if, they did have the technology, they would not need to send anyone out to homes which didn't have a tv licence. It defeats thte object.
martynblackburn1977 5 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 Well how do you propose they find out who is watching or recording live TV without using one of these things? And there's no "if" about it. I've been out in these things to test their accuracy and reliability and I can certainly assure you now that they do work, and they do work very well!
AidanLunn 5 months ago
@AidanLunn They don't. They send letters addressed to "present occupier" with an address attached. If they haven't recieved a name to this address, they assume you don't have a licence, so they keep sending letters, and then they call round. They need your name. In my case, they already had my name. There is no evidence that these vans contain such technology. And even if they had the technology, it cannot be used in court. They have to catch you using the tv by consent only.
martynblackburn1977 5 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 As the IF stage signals can be received outside your house and in public property such as a street, technically, they can legally catch you watching TV without your consent.
I've got evidence (circuit diagrams) if you can make sense of them (circuit reading skills would be required) but I've signed the Official Secrets Act with regard to his technology, so unfortunately, I'm not allowed to show anyone else. Most inconvenient, really, because it really is fascinating tech.
AidanLunn 5 months ago
@AidanLunn This is all theoretical. There is no physical evidence, and non which can be taken to court, to prove that they can catch someone using their tv during live broadcasts. If they can catch you, why haven't they used this evidence in court? I'm afraid you or the TVL must come up with evidence, or else it can be dismissed. And this technology you know of, can also be dismissed because it has not been proven publically to exist. And it has not been put before a court.
martynblackburn1977 5 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 If there is no physical evidence, then I wonder what those massive piles of electronics I designed were? There's a world of difference between there being evidence, and showing it.
I've told you why not. It's a copyrighted design. I'm not going to come up with evidence for anyone - Official Secrets Act.
If you wish to dismiss something that hasn't yet been proven, then fine. But out of me and you, it won't be me who ends up with egg on my face when they are proven.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn There's no evidence because they haven't produced it before prosecution and defense. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. Untill there is clear evidence that this technology exists, I can dismiss it. And I am dismissing it. It just doesn't exist. When they are proven? They've never been proven. I think your talking out your arse now. Seriously.
martynblackburn1977 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 Well, it does exist, whether it has been proven in court or not.
That's like saying Dodos didn't exist because you either haven't seen a living one and/or they haven't been proven in a crown or magistrates court.
There is clear evidence that this technology exists - it's just that I'm not allowed to show you it.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn No it does not. It does not exist. Are you wroking for the BBC? This technology does not exist. It has never been used in a court trial. Dodos did exist because we have documented evidence including photographs of the actual bird, unlike this technology. You have some privileged access to this technology? You must be propaganda employee for the BBC.
martynblackburn1977 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 As I already said, if they don't exist, ten what was I researching, designing and testing in late 2007? No, I work for ITV Leeds (formerly known as Yorkshire Television) currently, though I worked for Ikegami at the time - major manufacturers of broadcast equipment. And TVL is under the wing of Crapita, not the BBC. As for the Dodo, we have photos of stuffed animals & paintings, but as the things were wiped out in the 17th Century, we don' have any photographs of the things.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 And what logic do you use to incorrectly presume I'm an employee of Auntie Beeb? Pretty shambolic logic it seems. As I said, ITV is my employer. I have never worked directly for the BBC, whether that be through choice or not.
I like Paris. Doesn't mean I work there!
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn Not shambolic logic. First, you claim to have special access to this "technology" (I'm sure you have interviewers turning up at your door), then you continue supporting their case without any evidence whatsover, and now you call them "Auntie Beeb".
Case closed.
martynblackburn1977 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 Case open actually. I have special access to it because I was one of the developers. You, evidently, weren't, and even if I showed you the circuit diagrams, without wishing to insult your intelligence, I doubt you'd understand it.
I don't have them turning up at my door because I state to them that I'm not allowed to show them the proof. What's so hard to understand that I worked on the tech, it *does* exist, but I'm not allowed to show it to you with the BBC's permission?
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn So why won't the TVL or the developers (like yourself presumably) tell us what this technology is, and why no-one has ever been convicted using the data from this technology. You can't prosecute someone without evidence. Evidence must be presented. There is no evidence that this technology exists, and I cannot take your word for it without evidence. Show me the evidence first and then I'll believe it.
martynblackburn1977 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 Because it's a copyrighted design. I don't even think a court would even accept it as evidence anyway.
If I show you the evidence, then I face a prison sentence!
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn Rubbish. If it was copyrighted then it would have been publicised. Just admit that you're talking absolute rubbish.
martynblackburn1977 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 I'm not. I worked on the things, and designed the things.
Just because i hasn't been published doesn't mean it's not true.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 And the "Auntie Beeb" thing is just my casual prose style.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn untrue and not revealing the fact that in order to identify recievers of these chanels(liability goes to person not address) then it would be hard to prove. the bbc have long relied on either people admiting to ,registering tvs,any device capable of recieving the programming at point of sale(no id required) without the ability or cooperation of cable/freeview box digital subscriber services tagging users or id'ing them via other means the bbc are powerless.
jcmmc 4 months ago
@jcmmc I'm confused. Which of my comments are you replying to?
Oh yeah, they rely on other methods as well as the TV detector vans.. And cable boxes and Freeview boxes, even the newest ones, can't "tag" users - they'd need the box o do that as far as I can see, and the technology inside even the newest boxes won't be able to do that. Even the newest HD boxes have rather primitive technology inside them.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn They don't It doesn't exist. None of it exists. You didn't develop the technology, because it doesn't exist. And there is no technology in those vans at all.
martynblackburn1977 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 no the technology was a scam - but the vans were around 'scaring' the public..........
spottydog4477 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 Look, I've worked on, tested & designed them. If you want to go around living in a fantasy land pretending that these things don't exist then go ahead, I'm sick and tired of trying to get the fact that they do exist through your stubborn head.
The fact is, they do exist, I'm not allowed to prove it.
It looks like we're not going to agree on this, even though I have the experience and memories to say I'm right, so we're just going to have to agree to disagree.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn They don't exist. What cannot be proved can be dismissed until there is evidence brought forward. If you are going to assert that something exists without evidence and expect me to believe it, then you might as well be selling snake oil and pretending you invented it.
martynblackburn1977 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 Just because something hasn't been proven to exist yet doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. You might as well claim that aliens don't exist because they haven't been proven yet. Sound ridiculous? No more ridiculous than your theory.
If something can be physically touched, like TV detection equipment can, then it exists.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn Unlike the fictitious TVL detectors UFOs have been seen by the public. End of discussion.
martynblackburn1977 4 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 I was talking about aliens themselves.
But yeah, I agree that we must leave this discussion, for the sake of both our sanities!
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@HolyBomb. Looool. That's funny!
onlywhenpissed 5 months ago
Oh God I used to fall for this horse's shite in the 80s and 90s! Seriously, people, it's bollocks. Those letters start to repeat themselves in cycles. You get one a month, and after a few months it goes back to the first style of letter.
Gradually the letters build up to a red bordered scary looking thing I think. Any
way, the guys come out, you ignore the door, and a fortnight later, you get another toothless letter in the style of the very first one you ever recieved.
God it's so funny.
Noodles37UK 5 months ago
"there is a tv set on the bedroom. next to the blue chair. he is watching the Filth channel but he doesn't seem to enjoy it"
HolyBomb 6 months ago
Lol... it's in the front room..
How the hell would they even know if the house had a front room, for all they know it could just be completely open space!
Maybe the BBC has the power to get the house plans from the land registry or wherever so that they can pinpoint which room you are likely to place a TV, then they can send their boys round to peek through the window!
Fucking cock-a-roaches!
stephenfalken 7 months ago
@kramnodd0 There's no evidence that those things, or any such technology exists. They've admitted that it's all just a deterrent.
MIKON8ERISBACK 7 months ago
@MIKON8ERISBACK The technology exists because it detects the emitted radiation from the intermediate frequency stage of a TV with a super-heterodyne tuner, which all TVs, analogue or digital, have.
AidanLunn 5 months ago
@AidanLunn If it existed why would they have refused the FOI?
martynblackburn1977 5 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 Because it's a copyrighted design? Or *shock, horror*, because they're allowed to efuse FOI requests? It's a request, not a demand.
AidanLunn 5 months ago
@AidanLunn It's not like they are going to prosecute someone using evidence from this technology. They'd be laughed out of court.
martynblackburn1977 5 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 I don't see why they'd be laughed out of court. It would be proof that the criminal has been watching television. It's very, very precise!
AidanLunn 5 months ago
@AidanLunn Because it has never been used in a court and never will be unless it can be shown how TVL obtained that data, and with what equipment.
martynblackburn1977 5 months ago
@AidanLunn Very, very precise! I don't think so. There's no proof that the BBC has such technology, so how can you possibly know that it is precise?
martynblackburn1977 5 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 They haven't proven it because it's a copyrighted design that they don't want to share.
I'll tell you how I know. I've worked as a hardware developer when Ikegami were developing the latest ones.
And my dad and grandad used to be/is TV & video R&D engineers for Thorn-EMI and Sony respectively. It's quite basic science and thus not hard to understand how these things can, quite accurately, detect IF signals using high gain, highly directional log periodic antennas.
AidanLunn 5 months ago
@AidanLunn Then they cannot use it in a court of law. It cannot be used as evidence. To prove that someone has committed a crime, you need to show evidence. Since the TVL withdraw this evidence, because they won't let out what this technology is and how it works, and how they obtained the results, it cannot be used as evidence.
martynblackburn1977 5 months ago
@martynblackburn1977 I'm not debating that fact, seeing as I was the one who stated why they don't use that evidence. But they could if they wanted to change their mind.
AidanLunn 5 months ago
@AidanLunn But they don't. they don't use it. And that was my intial point. If they wanted to they could. Yes. But until they show it, no-one can be found guilty of not having a tv licence through using this technology. Without evidence of its existence, it simply can be dismissed before a court of law.
martynblackburn1977 5 months ago
@AidanLunn What about monitors ... LCD and CRT?
0muffins0 4 months ago
@0muffins0 A monitor technically doesn't have a tuner, but something that it'll need to receive broadcast transmissions will have a tuner and thus will be detectable, things like digiboxes, DVD recorders, VCRs, PVRs etc.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn I was thinking along the lines of internet TV.
0muffins0 4 months ago
@0muffins0 Nah. Internet TV can't be detected by TV detector vans, but they can still find out by looking at your internet history from your ISP. You still need a TVL for live viewing on the internet, i.e. playing a programme on the internet as it is being transmitted on TV.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn lol@detector vans. Does anyone actually believe they're real anymore?
They're just BBC propaganda.
As for internet TV, why would internet providers snoop on their customers for Capita Business Services?
0muffins0 4 months ago
@0muffins0 They do exist. As I said to someone else, I worked on, designed and tested the things when I used to work at Ikegami.
Crapita would request the ISP to do that.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn The internet providers do not have to comply (data protection act and all that).
If TV detectors worked there would not be the need for visits or search warrants to test equipment. If TV detectors worked then people like me who are TV free would not be constantly hassled by obnoxious threatening letters and rude overbearing visiting 'officers'.
0muffins0 4 months ago
@0muffins0 They don't have to but it makes them look bad if they do what the public may think is breaking the law.
They do work, however, they still need to search a house so that they can check that whatever they picked up is TV receiving equipment and to check if it is connected to an aerial of some sort (including cable). Radios, wireless routers and those wireless things that plug directly into the mains can be picked up by the equipment. They use tunable RF frequencies as well.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@AidanLunn I thought you said that they work. If they can't differentiate from all the other electrical clutter, and can't tell if the equipment is connected to an aerial or not, then the detectors don't work.
Admit it, they don't exist. If they did exist then they would not need either visits or warrants and I wouldn't get retards bashing on my door like nazi goons.
0muffins0 4 months ago
@0muffins0 They are doing the job they were designed to do, so they work. They were designed to detect the radiated output from the IF frequency stage. Not to detect whether the thing is connected to an aerial or not. The IF stage is active all the time the TV is on, whether or not its connected to anything. It wasn't designed to detect if an aerial is connected because that's not possible - yet.
They do exist. As I've repeated over and over again like a stuck vinyl, I've worked on hem.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@0muffins0 As I said, they only have literally no more than 5, due to the cost of the equipment, that's why they are so rare to see and thus why people think they're imaginary.
And they can differentiate - they can be adjusted to any IF, as different TVs use different frequencies. But because the output is exactly the same - electromagnetic interference - it can't differentiate between types of signal except analogue or digital encoding.
AidanLunn 4 months ago
@0muffins0 The letters are sent out automatically by a PC at TVL HQ, so they're just empty threats. I'm surprised this is still happening! I thought they fixed that problem ages ago!
They do work, but because the equipment is so expensive as it is custom built, they only have three or four, and I think they have to get a local council's permission to operate in a certain area.
The officers really are a joke in themselves - there was a brilliant skit on The Young Ones parodying them!
AidanLunn 4 months ago
BOLLOX ITS AT SOME MATCHBOX FLATS TO, IN THE 70'S FAT CHANCE
toweronepower 7 months ago
what is this? star treck?
Glitterfinger 8 months ago
Anyway u don't need a tv license if u only use ur tv as a monitor for games or watching shop bought dvd's/videos.
Just keep telling them u don't watch tv,they have no authority to come into ur home.
andybaillie192 8 months ago
Bullshit!
They couldn't detect their own R-Soles
andybaillie192 8 months ago
Dear Aunty Beeb.
Kiss my arse!
That licence money is going on essentials. Petrol for the VXR and Lager!
timpovikings 8 months ago
Electronic information has never been used, because successive FOI requests have met with refusal to define their methods under opt out clauses. If the public are denied access to such methodology, it cannot be used against you in legally.
The only way they catch people is to gain access and or obtain a signed statement of admission.
TVL inspectors have no more right to access than a gas meter reader and you can remove their implied right of access as soon as you speak to them.
timpovikings 8 months ago 2
Dammit, it literally shoves fear right in your face. Although there is no evidence that those vans were ever used, or even exist.
MIKON8ERISBACK 8 months ago
I'm spooked, it's got an East German repression vibe going. Christ they should have been arrested for putting stuff like this out.
fartlord747 8 months ago
classic! blatant scare tactics! If they had the technology back then they should have even more advanced detection gear now.....so why have the TV licensing people got to come into your house to check!!
MrBeSpoken 10 months ago
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We as a nation need to stop watching the BBC channels.
We as a nation will be united by not watching them.
We as a nation will be £145.50 a year better off.
We as a nation can use that on getting our economy moving.
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boycottbbc 10 months ago
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The Nazis used this sort of propaganda, the Khmer Rouge used this sort of propaganda, the Burmese Junta uses this sort of propaganda, Robert Mugabe uses this sort of propaganda, the Chinese government uses this sort of propaganda.. do I really need to explain what I'm getting at?
thewr0ngchild 1 year ago
It's a Death Ray Van....
funny enough they have american hummer jeeps with big antenna's on like that can microwave people over a distance now, wonder if you need a sound weapons license?
matthewmc01 1 year ago
how did they know the tv was in the front room. does the detector have a map of the rooms in the house aswell. wow thats some technology right there.
fuck of bbc, you aint scaring no one.
sekky123 1 year ago 10
@sekky123 Maybe because the front room curtains, were wide open.
phil1958uk 1 year ago
@sekky123 The reason why they knew they had a tv switched on, in the first place!
phil1958uk 1 year ago
@sekky123
But they sure did back on the 70's :)))
artholmenssommarstad 5 months ago
SCUM
sameoldfitup2008 1 year ago
@sameoldfitup2008 he's dead by now.
GRPLiningServices 11 months ago
Detector van! Looooool. Funny as hell. As if.
onlywhenpissed 1 year ago
oooh ive upset someone havent i lol - grow up ya moron
LinesMoko 1 year ago
WE CATCH 1,000 EVADERS PER DAY.... err, so that's 365,000 heathen law- breaking scum per year. Multiplied by ten, that's about... humm.... over 3 MILLION people between 2000 and today? They are amongst us in great multitudes! We must find these criminals NOW, fellow citizens and denounce them!!!!!!
Kelly14UK 1 year ago 2
pmsfl look @ you getting all emotional and angry haha are you welling up is you gonna start crying lol
LinesMoko 1 year ago 3
you can tell your getting frustrated the spelling of posts as "posrts" is a dead give away your cracking up lad hahaha
LinesMoko 1 year ago 5
@LinesMoko I've been frustrated for years, mainly by idiots like yourself without single solitary working brain cell. Soto ease the boredom, I like to have a little fun with you to see how long I can keep you on the line. :-)
I don't bother particularly wasting my time correcting typos for idiots like you, as with your standard of spelling it's obvious that you understand what i'm getting at.
I type quickly, but not necessarily accurately. This is not a Pitman's accuracy test.
ozzirt 1 year ago
Its an outrage that everyone should pay for this 3rd rate channel i NEVER watch any of the BBC channels so why am i forced to pay for a service i choose not to use. Can you imagine Sky sending out to every person in the UK without a dish or cable connection demanding they pay up NOW!!
LinesMoko 1 year ago
"there's also a TV set in number 6 as well... and number 7... and number 8... and number 9... possibly number 10, but I can't tell, I'm just sitting in the back of a van with a couple of giant clothes hangers on the top, looking at some kind of machine that isn't even switched on, spouting some bullshit from a script"
thatrandomhumanbeing 1 year ago 3
At the end of the video, are they holding guns before invading the house? ;D
HolyBomb 1 year ago
It is true.
That van can even detect your THOUGHTS about thinking to avoid tv licencing.
HolyBomb 1 year ago
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phil1958uk 1 year ago
I would rather pay $ky TV to watch their Adverts
Doubleringer 1 year ago
id rather just watch youtube for free and watch there funking adverts...bastards :)
terryoneill1978 1 year ago
@wasssuppp08 And at number 69 in the bedroom over looking the back garden the licence evaders husband is getting a blow job from the tv licence enforcers daughter
paul1967uk 1 year ago 4
@wasssuppp08 You should not have to pay a penny, they should self finance just like the other TV channels do. You do know that they are making money also from the youtube partnership programme. But why have you bought a licence. You don't watch TV, but you say you pay for one. Just because you have a TV does not mean you need a licence.
paul1967uk 1 year ago
@wasssuppp08 if you don't watch tv you don't need a licence. Doesn't matter how many tv's you have, you dont need to buy one if you don't watch telly
paul1967uk 1 year ago
Look at the Goons get out of the van all ready for an assault on the front door only to have the innocent home owner slam the fucker straight in their face. Join the resistance.
onlywhenpissed 1 year ago
Get rid of the TV Licence fee
Please vote on May 6 for whichever of the 3 main parties will scrap it once and for all
Kidbrookekid 1 year ago
What an outrageous tax. I had no idea.
What's the fee for breathing or bathing?
They will never be satisfied. The Bloodsuckers. Thanks for posting.
Easy to download fav programs & movies, then burn to dvd.
Check out WinMx tutorials on utub.e- Excellent for just that. All free.
teshnic 1 year ago
@teshnic There soon will be a breathing tax in the UK, you get taxed for everything else.
onlywhenpissed 1 year ago
Just because the law says you have to buy a tv licence, does'nt make the tv licence right.
phil1958uk 1 year ago
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The Licence fee goes up as of 1st April 2010 to: £145-50
Never mind the UKs going through the worst recession in 70 years and everyone is scared to death of losing their jobs, or have lost their jobs, or even having to take pay cuts to stay in work.
Oh NO NO NO this simply doesn't apply to the BBC now does it, TV watching being such a basic necessity of life we just can't do without.
TheTVLicence 1 year ago
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TV detector vans that actually go around detecting TVs and gathering evidence on people to be presented in a court fall in to the same category as the Loch Ness monster and Big Foot.
They are a myth, simple BBC propaganda, not one prosecution has ever been made via the evidence supplied by a so called TV detector van.
What does that tell you?
TheTVLicence 1 year ago
How come I"ve never seen one of these vans, on the street?
phil1958uk 1 year ago
sounds and looks like a paedo
acidsunrise 1 year ago 3
facebook 10 million for no tv licence group.500,000 members and rising
iusemiro 2 years ago 2
whooooo I'm so fucking scared. Fuck the tv license
paul1967uk 2 years ago 21
I am so scared, I told them to come to my place with a TV dectetor van to catch me watching a TV, I gave them my address, they have not caught me yet.
ws1a37 2 years ago
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iusemiro 2 years ago
Sorry I just thought of something else. Did bbc employees ever realise how hated they were before? Nobody ever got the chance to express any hatred. It would just be edited out or they could character assisinate people. Thanks to the internet there's nothing to stop us exposing the truth of what we really think about them. I almost feel sorry for them. Don't tell me they were to nieve to know?
iusemiro 2 years ago
boycott the bbc.what would happen if everyone just refused to have anything to do with watching anything to do with the bbc ? would they still get away with imposing a tv licence fee on us? i don't watch anything bbc. Radio 5 live is pretty good when the sport starts but I often turn that off. I avoid the news whenever that comes on and when they start going on and on about cricket and Tiger Woods. I tried Talk Sport today but it was all about Sir Paul McCartney. Nothing to do with sport.
iusemiro 2 years ago
in the "fffrvont" room?
iusemiro 2 years ago
the feudal system still exists except that now the aristocrats all work for the bbc with their toffee voices lay down the law to us so they can all sit comfortably on their backsides while we do all the hard graft. On lovely my dears.
iusemiro 2 years ago
It's frightening to think nothing I say or do will make any difference. Think of all the jobs that would go if I could make a difference. I can never understand the logic behind keeping businesses going that nobody wants just to save jobs. All that money that goes to prop up Land Rover and Jaguar, cars that don't mean a thing to me because only a few people can afford them anyway?
iusemiro 2 years ago
bbc shit
iusemiro 2 years ago
marmalade net / lime / "This site is about TV Licensing™ (the "television licensing authority") . . . . . . and how they treat those who do not have television."
iusemiro 2 years ago
I went by a smart office block in Burnley ( I think) with CAPITA down the side. It really does make me wonder about the way we percieve the world. All these people that wear ties and fancy suits and work in large office blocks with "good " jobs don't actually do anything important at all. All they do is rip us off.
iusemiro 2 years ago
Ok bbc you win. But i'm still glad i managed to say all the things i wanted to say about you. It amazes me that no one from the bbc tries to defend themselves. You really mean to say they are totally unaware of these videos? I thought I might be done for incitement to murder tvlicence officers but it doesn't seem to bother anyone how vitriolic my attacks are. "Just keep giving us money" and they keep quiet.Where are you cowards? You must know,you're the best news reporters in the world?
iusemiro 2 years ago
Don't like the BBC propaganda?
Check my channel and please sub me and watch the helpful videos and use the links ; )
TheTVLicence 2 years ago
The TV licence is really the bbc licence. It's a deliberate effort to distance themselves from the nastiness. If it was called bbc licence people might start asking "Why am I paying to watch bbc when I could just watch all the other channels? If I'm watching Champions League on ITV I'm having to pay twice. Once for the bbc licence and twice to subsidise the cost of all the adverts. "
iusemiro 2 years ago
my family have been dodging the licence since the 10/ radio licence in 1926 and we are proud to have never paid a penny.
bigfist255 2 years ago 2
the bbc should be made to pay for these lies anyone who still pays is a silly how can you pay for a company that treats the public like mugs.
bigfist255 2 years ago
I got a letter from TVL claiming they'd used a detector to detect a TV in my house. But I don't have a TV, and I do nothing that would require a TV license.
I just added it to my list of TVL's lies (and no, they never followed up on their threats). I don't understand how TVL could win any court case when nothing they say can have any credibility, given their willingness to tell lie after lie.
AndyM677 2 years ago
I would like to see that letter from TVLA.
This is a new one to me I have never seen that one before
ws1a37 2 years ago
I blogged the whole thing: if you Google on 'Life With TV Licensing' you can find the blog.
AndyM677 2 years ago
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iusemiro 2 years ago
It's amazing how state tv can somehow feel justified in telling this big lie . Does the end justify the means? Was America right to pretend to land on the moon in order to win the Cold War? This is the bbc. The upholder of truth. Known throughout the world for it's unbiased News. Yet there is no TV standards commission to stop them persuading people to pay a tv licence in this way because it is an absolute lie.
iusemiro 2 years ago
Isn't that so Orwellian? The totalitarian state with the KGB watching your every move. You know the penalty for watching Columbo without a licence. 15years hard labour in the Gulag Archipelago. I told you to stick to Match Of The Day. You could have got away with 5 years in Kazakstan and you would have been out in 2and half with good behaviour.But you wouldn't listen. You just had to watch Columbo. The best of all the programmes on offer.
iusemiro 2 years ago
No we weren't watching Columbo. We were watching Jackanory. Or was it Star Trek when Doctor Who landed outside our front door in his Tardis.
iusemiro 2 years ago
even if they can detect a tv (which im pretty sure they can't) it dont mean shit, your allowed to own a tv for games consoles, videos, dvds etc. you only have to pay a liecence to watch live broadcasts.
KRAZYTommySmiles 2 years ago
It's an extremely powerful detection system. Those magnetic loops on the roof of the van are massive. The operator can pin-ponit the set at his supreme leisure, and it only leaves the einforcement team to make their way in. It would be hliarious to see the look on the faces of the cheaters when the licence enforcers knock on their door, late one evening.
dunbustin 2 years ago
Thats just bollocks there isnt a single documented case where a detection van has provided evidence for prosecution this is because they are empty and just used to frighten ppl into coughin up.
raybinns 2 years ago
Lol, not really (if they don't let him in. They don't have to.)
Lyncheh 2 years ago
just had massive court case with capita/tvl prosecution for refusing to pay for a tv licence,wrote out a nine page statement of every law,act,human right act,malicious commercial code broken,how to guy falsified hes statement against the accordance of the law,had enough to send every employee of theris to prison but i still walked out with a fine,im a freeman too,the BBC.capital.tvl and the courts are totally corrupt and biased,if you lived in a mud hut they would find you guilty,tossers!!!
MoneyMaker4Ads 2 years ago
Yes there's a TV set on at number five. It's in the front room, and they're watching colombo.
If you don't have a tv license, it won't take us long to find you.
TVSTAPPO!
8ullfrog 2 years ago
These deceiving scare tactics really are alarming.
I think it´s funny that we´re spreading "freedom and democracy to all the oppressed people of the world" when we have shit like this on tv
staponsa1 2 years ago
Why would anyone agree to pay that bastard clarksons wages?
Drunkenher0 2 years ago
I know for a fact they can't tell if you have a TV or not. I don't have one at uni, yet I get them knocking all the time asking to come in (I never let them, I don't know if they're a criminal or not.) I even got told a detector van had detected a TV in my room. Oh really, thank you for that admission, now I know the vans are complete BS and you just gave the game away.
heathenwalking 2 years ago
all horse shit this
you can even watch bbc free on the net.
so the only way they could show this is with your ip.
still a hard job mean logging what you look at
homer4556 2 years ago
fucking hilariouis, pisser ,look at the van .what is it ? doctor fucking who??
absolute bollocks!!
amigolakota1974 2 years ago 9
I have an uncle who used to work for the TV licensing thingy and he told me it was all bullshit, they couldn't tell if you had a television and they certainly couldn't find out what you were watching.
TashkentFox 2 years ago 2
are they legally entitled to search your house or can you just not let them in? I pay my licence but from this ad you would think evaders where terrorists or something!
yousurfer2 2 years ago
No, since they're employees of a corporation and not the police they have no more right to enter your house than a double glazing salesman, you have to let them in before they can search your house.
TashkentFox 2 years ago
Without a warrant AND a police officer with ID present they have the same right to enter your premises as a burglar does: i.e none whatsoever.
If they come round trying to act tough tell them to go fuck themselves and close the door. Job done.
MCH1984 2 years ago
This horseshit was meant to scare people at the time and did work! now they rely on shops passing info of the new TV you just bought. just give a false [pre thought] postcode and waiver your warranty, also never let them into your home, they have no rights!
wotsganninon 2 years ago
Thing is, back then everybody believed it.
alanstarkie2001 2 years ago
and the guy at no 70 is having a doner kebab with chilli sauce.
bigfist255 2 years ago 7
ha ha ha ha its so funny they think we are all retards.
bigfist255 2 years ago 4
They don't tellus the really important news, and they also tell us down-right lies.
Question:- Why on earth should I pay for someones lies ?
True journalism has been gone for years.
What we have is media shills, who repeat 'establiment' mantra/polcies.
I say: DON'T PAY FOR THEIR LIES !
elenite396 2 years ago
I am really scared I am shaking in my boots. Check these big knobs in front of him, bet they do shit man.
ws1a37 2 years ago 5
They are watching baby p reports naked.
ManlytearsUK 2 years ago 5
I like the converted roof rack. lol
Zeamus634 2 years ago 3
Bullshit!!! hahahahah lol
Zeamus634 2 years ago
I know it doesn't work. A mate of mine at uni does not have a TV yet was told, We know you have one the detector van spotted it. Right! Go fuck yourself.
F1X0R121 2 years ago 3
shove the licence up yer asshole,
m83txn 2 years ago 4
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m83txn 2 years ago
The liars at the BBC have never divulged the following information in court:
- The make and model of the TV detection devices
- The system callibration records
- Training records of the operators
- Full technical specification of the systems so that their performance could be scrutinised by a telecommunications professional.
The BBC are liars, ignore them and don't pay them £142,50 for a piece of paper.
Millions of homes are now doing this.
greensock89 2 years ago 3
what bullshit these detectors don't exist in the real world, the do exist in the fantasy world such as Alice in Wonderland, and the BBC fantasy channel. Television does not transmit any signals.
ws1a37 2 years ago 3
untrue - all CRT devices have a local oscillator - this is what they are picking up - how reliable the equipment was is debatable but it did exist in a few vans - they were plenty more decoy vans with nothing int them tho.
denbighlad70 2 years ago
These equipment never existed, how did you know they existed in the real world?
Yes they all have the local oscillator inside TV sets, but the signals cannot be detected.
I have had 3 visits from TVLA and nothing was done about it, so I know its all bullshit
ws1a37 2 years ago 4
I know for a fact that they can't tell if you have a television or not, they MIGHT theoretically have been able to detect electrical impulses from the transformer, but they wouldn't know if it was a TV or a toaster until they searched your house.
TashkentFox 2 years ago
how did you know the equipment existed?
The Post Office used to have the contact from the BBC. They had nothing inside the van but the driver.
ws1a37 2 years ago
True, but the signals given out from a local oscillator are tiny, and can at best be detected from about 2 meters away. Hold a hair dryer up to a CRT TV, it goes weird, because your interfering with the LO. So you still can't tell the difference between a hair dryer and a TV with the equipment if you can get close enough.
heathenwalking 2 years ago
Wankers, what the hell have the UK nazis been feeding us??? Only to leave us to die in filthy hospitals.
nsxjl 2 years ago
There are so many illogical things about this commercial. For example, he said the tv is in the "front room". To know this you would have to either have a detail map of inside every house or you would have to have a technology that can scan a house and determine which one is the "front room". Trust me, if the UK had this kind of technology they wouldn't need vans or hand held meters to track you down. This is all about money and control because BBC decides when and what your going to watch.
hello0787 2 years ago
They still haven't court me!!! BBC are full of lies. Nowadays they realise that TV detector vans don't con anyone...Neither dose their database! They have no way of proving anything. They lie about their convictions. They never tally.
eyechubcunt 2 years ago 2