fg42 at kcr april 2006

[CRH114]

@dexm2010 The scope is a ZF4 telescopic sight it was also used on the G43 and some MP44s.

[dexm2010]

Does anybody know what type of optic is mounted on the weapon? It looks like a modern optic?

[gonzisonsbc]

Damn I heard wise lite arms was gonna make a semi auto version for civilians but the damn thing is gonna be $4,000 !! :( WHAT THE FUCK :( I need one of these!!! I could just stare at this rifle all day!!! The nazis were assholes but hey made some badass weapons!!

[ChernobylCorp]

Too bad the US gave the FG42 a new look and called it an M60. :/

[hummerskickass]

its too bad the german company that makes working repoductions of german ww2 weaponry dont ship to the usa

[t1t296]

From an angle, it kind of resembles an m60

[Xiolablu3]

@t1t296 M60 was based on the FG42 and MG42

[NitroNein]

possibly the first bullpup rifle

[daevildude45]

@NitroNein wasnt the sten made before it?

[TheBobafett13]

damn I would be to scared to shoot that mo**** f******* its like a damn mg-42 and with my luck i would proably break it lol

[cdwordsworth26]

they did slow the rate for the second version which that is so god knows what the 1st one was like to fire full auto.

[ClintSchiesswut]

as far as i know it got 7,92 x 57mm or 8 x 57 IS, same as K98, MG 34 and MG 42

[hogiesanKenobi]

@ClintSchiesswut That is correct .this would have been an incredible battle rifle if produced with the Kurz round, used in mp44

[tarpleyy]

Great gun!

[anteracmacash]

way better then the stuhrmgewehr...

[rayd408]

germans made the best rifles and mgs looks like that has a very high rate of fire....

[DavidVanPatten]

@rayd408

Actually the Garand was the best rifle of WWII. Till the Germans got something equivalent 4 years of war had to pass first.

[Xiolablu3]

@DavidVanPatten Well, the Germans had a semi auto rifle in 1941, the US and the Garand didnt really get into the war until the last 2 years, 43-44 so your statement isnt really correct. Plus the STG44 was far far ahead of the M1 Garand, thats why we still use similar assault rifles today and the M1 garand style is no longer used except as sniper rifles.

[johannes208]

what cal was the fg 42??

[savage495]

@johannes208 7.92mm or .35 cal

[johannes208]

@savage495 pritty big for a full auto gun

[Dassault354]

such a rare gun. lush

[calvin1440]

the BAR was not the most feared gun but it was badass. it had alot of power, it was accurate and automatic. the only real problem that i heard about the BAR is that it was heavy for a LMG. i think it was 19 pounds empty.

I have to agree with rebelsince1776 that the BAR would be a great choice. yea the fg42 is lighter but kickes like a horse. the wieght of the BAR gives it a more stable platform and kind of lowers the recoil too.

[tivo304]

if you were theoretically jolted into in WWII..go w/ something else lol. some of our less intelligent higher-ups were paranoid of the Browning falling into german hands for counter-reproduction so it barely saw combat in Europe. It was more generously deployed in the Pacific, where it was felt the crippled Japanese production facilities were incapable of doing so.

[jessikanapalm]

I believe you are confused with WW1.

[1012522654]

The Japanese were on our side in WW1.

[skankuser]

They weren't necessarily on "our side." They joined just at the end of the war to possibly gain territories that the Germans had left in China.

[jrpeters5]

You are probably thinking of World War I. In World War II the B.A.R. saw plenty of action in both theaters. In World War I however, the higher-ups were worried that if deployed, the Germans would capture some examples and use it as a basis for a new weapon, or in other words, they would try to reverse engineer and create their own example.

[natanreb]

the last fg42 fore sell in us was145000 us and one in europe went fore 75000 euro.i I hawe fired the first modell and it is easy to controll and it is wery acurate, it does not climb at all on full auto and it is becouse of the in line stock and the mussle brake.

[Octogon3577]

even tho the nazis were the bad guys, they had cool guns

:p

[marodeur64]

The Granduncle of the bulpup design.

[CollegeDropoutBear]

WOOOOOW :-O

[fallschirmjager0000]

Fantastic, great vid thanks for sharing, shame it wasnt a bit longer

[petrwarry]

can't stop watching , superb *****

[kinmanyuen]

very sexy rifle... hightech design.

[petrwarry]

superb.where is it?i've seen genuine fg42 just once at beltring.5stars mate

[lucaswanab]

Look at that muzzel flash.. Beautifull!!!Emagine if that weapon was used in more numbers and in more units than it did in WW2... Scary thought.

[Daniel4646]

The Sturmgewehr MP 44 was a more efficient rifle than the FG 42. Imagine THAT on the losse in WW2 ... the Allies would have been outgunned.

[ARGENGUY44]

It's a beautyfull piece of enginerie, my fav rifle in WW2 games

[Belva1]

It's live fire of course!

[Belva1]

well it wasn't adopted, so I just don't count it. Do you have pictures of it by the way?

[Belva1]

I know that, read posts correctly. It's the first attempt of a bullpup, for the chamber is getting near your head when firing. Of course it's not an assault rifle, it's a 8x57 mm automatic rifle, see the muzzle flash?

But it's a little heavier than an mp40, and shorter than a k98k! With kurz ammo, it would have been the first assault rifle indeed.... study your history.

[nerdlinger123]

actually its not the first attempt at a bullpup. the Faucon-Meunier was one of the first bullpup rifles, that was develpoed in 1918.

[Canashea]

Not to forget the .303 Tornycroft carbine of 1901

[DONChuto]

it do is chambered for 8mm, its not bullpup, and no, this is not an assault rifle, neither the Browning Automatic Rifle (30-06)... they are just Auto-Rifles... just that... the first assault rifle was the SturmGewehr 1944... because it used shorted 8mm rounds...

[Canashea]

So the FG42 in modern terms may getaway as a 'Battle Rifle'. A 'Battle Rifle' is different than an 'Assault Rifle'.

[ARGENGUY44]

It's an automatic rifle just like the american BAR and the British BREN.

[JunoNH]

Really not the same. The BAR and Bren really arent in the same class accuracy or range wise. The FG42 was firing rifle quality rounds with the repeating action of a machine gun, instead of the lighter sub machinegun rounds. All the strengths an infantry rifle like the K98 had were incorporated, and non of the drawbacks of the close range support weapons class (accept for some minor overheating issue's).

[RebelSince1776]

Dude... wut? The Bren and BAR's were far better, they too fired the rifle round of their country not a smg round! And lower rate of fire is better since high rate of fire eats ammo up, and isnt as accurate, whereas with the BAR and Bren the gun was controllable, and the ammo lasted a lot longer, the BAR also had a selector switch for higher, or lower rates of fire

[JunoNH]

But they where markably hevier also, the BAR weighing in at anything from 7.5-9 kgs, the bren around 10kg, double the weight of the FG42.

The effective range of the FG42 matches that of the BAR and the Bren, with almost no accuracy difference on the first shot.

Also the FG42 is significantly more compact, staying under the 40inch mark, with the exception of the expanded stock model, where as the other 2 are far over that size.

[RebelSince1776]

Length wasnt really important in an infantry support weapon, it wasnt meant for close quarters comat, the Bar was relaible, it was controllable, and accurate, the first isnt the only one that matters, it's not a sniper rifle, and the Fg42 was wild, and had too high a rate of fire

[JunoNH]

thats the point though, the FG42 was true multi role, it wasnt pure support or rifle or SMG, it performed all those functions.

If it was a pure light support weapon we were talking about, the length/weight wouldn't be an issue.

The kickback is a bitch on the FG42, but then again it was designed with the master race in mind, so i guess they didnt think that would be such an issue lol.

[RebelSince1776]

I see what you mean, I thought u meant support weapon, but I'd still rather take the BAR since accuracy is better, it's reliable, recoil isnt bad, it has adjustable rates of fire, and is controllable in long bursts

[magnum9987]

the BAR weighed 20 pounds, and the bren most certainly did not weigh more than the BAR, the bren weighed like 4-6 pounds, the FG42 was around 14 pounds

[JunoNH]

sry bro, the browning was lighter... Bren LMG stats go something like this

Specifications

Weight 22.83 lb (10.35 kg)

Length 42.9 in (1,156 mm), Mk IV

Barrel length 25 in (635 mm)

Crew 2, firer and magazine/barrel changer

[jessikanapalm]

Sorry, I got confused with Sten SMG. Can't blame me, they sound awfully alike

[fingersticks74]

? the fg42 used rifle rounds

[RebelSince1776]

I know, that's why I said they TOO as in also, I know it fired rifle rounds

[fingersticks74]

oh I missread

[magnum9987]

NO SHIT SHERLOCK

[magnum9987]

The FG42 compensated its high ROF by having an inline stock. The Germans where smart and knew that weapons should have inline stocks. just look at the STG44 and MG42, both have inline stocks, which explains their incredible accuracy. So no, the bren and BAR where horrible in comparison to ANY German gun

[RebelSince1776]

First off having an inline stock means nothing in this case since the FG42 was completely uncontrolable, whereas the BAR and Bren were excellent controlable weapons. The BAR was the most feared weapon by the Germans. There is nothing wrong with the stocks on the BAR and Bren, and the stock on the FG42 does nothing to stabalize the weapon. Also the FG42 falls short in pretty much every category when compared with the BAR andFG42, READ MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS!

[magnum9987]

you know no shit, you are completely wrong. Inline stocks have everything to do with controllability. No weapon is completely accurate on full auto, but on bursting fire the FG42 is more accurate than the BAR on bursting. Look at the M14 and the G3. The G3 has an inline stock, and because of it is so much more accurate even on full auto than the m14 on full auto. stock has everything to do with it

[RebelSince1776]

Obviously not HAVE YOU SEEN HOW UNCONTROLLABLE THE FG42 IS!?!?!?! No ur wrong inline stock is not everything, not by a long shot, the BAR is far more accurate in short bursts, the only way the Fg42 can compare to the BAR in accuracy is on the first shot, thats pretty sad, and if YOU knew anything you would know that, ask any gun enthusiast and they'll agree. The m14 is better than the G3 on semi, and its obvious you hav nothing intelligent to say when you start a sentence off the way you did!!!!

[TheBelva85]

BAR was a very dated project. It was a ww1 weapon that never really got a specific role apart from "meating" up fire team with additional fire. A nice weapon, but terribly outdated. expensive, heavy, and quite unreliable, it was used cause it was already there and as an offensive force usa needed something more handy than a m1919.

FG42 is a whole other planet. I hope you'll try one someday. It's actually very controllable.

Full auto was intended for max 100 yards anyway. This aint no lmg.

[hackerhater]

it's more like an assault rifle eh?

[TheBelva85]

Actually it's like a step in between an automatic rifle and an assault rifle. But still, it's an auntomatic rifle.

[hogiesanKenobi]

@hackerhater Fires full house loads though.Goring interfered in development and demanded full loads. His para's were pinned down by long range fire from Aussie and NZ troops in Crete. He over reacted. Aussies head shot most of the Germans.many of these Aussies were from west NSW and QLD and took their own rifles with them, Lee Enfields ,of course. They ran out of ammo and water. Ooops pommie logistics.

[yroslav]

@TheBelva85 It was intended to be used as a lmg

[TheBelva85]

@yroslav No way. No quick change barrel. This is stil an automatic (auto fire) rifle (full powered cartridge). Innovation is : making a very modern automatic rifle, low weight and shorter than any automatic rifle made before. The only problem is : automatic rifles we're at the end of their lifespawns. 8x57 was good for LMG but in no way useful over full auto rifles.

[RebelSince1776]

I'm tired of little kids like you thinking they know everything, and that they're never wrong! You dont know everything, but ur cocky attitude makes you think you do, and you just need to calm down, step back, think about what you said, and admit that it is possible that you can be wrong, and that, in this case, you are!

[bellator11]

You're exactly right magnum.

[RebelSince1776]

Also Id rather take 6 lbs of extra weight knowing that my weapon is controllable, and effective in combat, not something that is completely uncontrollable, and virtually useless

[fanatiXone87]

only the same in dod lol...

[Belva1]

if they chamebered it for 8mm kurz, it would have been the first assault rifle, the first bullpup rifle, the first modular rifle.... man there were still carcanos, nagants and mausers around..................

[Canashea]

The FG42 is not a bullpup, Id call it a 'Sideloader' as the mag is on the left side, The closest 'sideloader' to the FG42 is the Vietnam era TRW LMR which is a 5.56 version of it in appearence.

Id like to see one in 7.62 NATO though.

[ARGENGUY44]

And another one is the WWII american Johnson Rifle.

[ARGENGUY44]

Yeah, both the FG42 and the STG 44 were very advanced weapons for the time.

[MrPennyworth007]

@ARGENGUY44 ya.one had to much recoil (fg42) and one didnt have enough time to infuence the war.

[Evilislam]

i wonder if wal-mart sells them?

[2491tj]

or.....you can buy them brand new in America.

[nitricacidx]

I so want that rifle!

[WANGZOOMZIP]

beautiful

[panzerkw]

They go for absolute fortune $50.000 plus. Shoei make a spot on replica which goes for about $2000

[Canashea]

Are they Live/Blank/Inert?

[Alienrobot3x3]

try 125k plus (now-a-days)

[gusplaer]

i saw one from a dealer in argentina for around 35k not too long ago.

[ARGENGUY44]

Where exactly? I'm from Argentina. 35k? argentinian pesos or dolars?

wow, it's very expensive.

[sharpanator]

it is expensive because it is so rare, ww2 germany only produced small numbers of this rifle and it came kind of late in 1943, read the wikipedia article.

[Daringa]

oh shit they only made a few thousand fg42s that must cost a fortune

[rudeass]

its got wayy too much barrel crawl

[capttenneal]

Full-auto 8mm, mmmmmmmmmmmm...

[volksjager8]

Dude awsome vid. I love the Fg 42, love to get one if i can find one.

[armormaster]

I've heard they're really rare. One of my friends (a WW2 reinactor) said they basically never see fg42's...

[veprman]

I love that gun. Thanks for the upload.