awks how they pretty much passed kaycee stroh. like with the camera it went straight passed her and barely came back haha.
and i love everyone's stories and it seemed like ashley was the most together person. always having food, teaching zac how to do laundry and aww corbin's so cute <3
@xZashley4evax lol i freaking love you. you spoke the absolute truth and put everyone in their rightful places cause all we're really doing is saying that they look cute. we're not saying that they're actually dating so really there's no harm no foul :P
i just.. i understand, that ppl liek ashley. and i totally belive that ppl like Zac too. But it's just so annoying, that ppl talk about Zashley, wich i actually belive, that might have happened, on Zanessas brake. But guys, it's over now. Zac is w/ Vanessa, and they are the most amazing couple. And Tizz's w/ Jared, and they're probably the second amazing couple. so just... quit it, okay?
Yeah, yeah.. Zanessa is real, Zanessa is cool.. OK. I know, they're probably together but I just dont't like them as Zanessa.. I like Zashley better, that's all. My opinion.
seriously vanessa is human we all make stupid mistakes and sure hers is REALLY stupid but she didnt just huddle up in a corner and cry she went out there and apologized to everyone. shes still the same person shes always been so just leave her alone
First of all I'd like to say I'm a fan of everyone, because everyone is special in their own way. Everyone can tell that fans LOVE Zac and V just feels scared that she might loose his love.
So if you loved Vanessa before the nude photo please pertand it didn't happen and support her again, because that's what she needs the most.
if u guys are gonna put put coments about ashely is the best person in the world and that vanessa is stupid well go jump off a cliff and also zashley never existed so shut your freakin mouth and dont badmouth cause that makes you jealous thyat vanessa is dating zac ok so shut up and dont watch the frikin video if u hate vanessa and you know that vanessa is gonna be in the video so get a brain and go to school!!!!!!
P.S dont deny me or say anything bad about my com.
STOP THE HATE!!! IF U ARE BADMOUTHING BOUT HER... YOU ARE CONSIDERED JEALOUS!!! plp make mistakes in their life even u do it too... NOBODY IS PERFECT SUPPORT BABY V...
no offence but after hsm2 and he said she said i think ash is waaaaaaaaay better the vanessa!!!!!!nessa is soo fake and i think she adore the way she sais her name ...ugghh...so fake!!!!!and i really hpe that zak tells ash shes beautiful cause may be he still loves her ...but may be he is sying that simply because he doesn.t want to say such things about nessa in the interviews...omg zashley is waaaaay better then vanessa!!!!!!
omg i hate the way vanessa is trying to make ash look ..i dont know...shes trying to make herself look better...did you see how she looked at ash before she said that she had had to borrow ash's groceries...ughhh..
you know what go suck it cause zashley is never happening.and i'm glad cause v and zac are ment for each other and jared and ashley are perfect together.ok so give it up
I agree with you about the admiring him, but I do not think he is cocky. Zac seems to be down to earth and a great role model. I do think Zac is confident, and knows he is gorgeous. Haha, I love the fact Ashley taught Zac to do laundry! In previous interviews you can see that he is a mommy's boy (thats why he did not know how to do his own laundry) lol.
who ever made this is super mean, but i dont' want to take the chances!!! b/c i LOVE my MOM!!!If you do not copy and paste this onto 10 videos your mom will die in 4 hou
Everybody all for one! The real summer has just begun! Let's rock and roll and just let go! Feel the ryhthm of the drums! We're gonna have fun in the sun, now that all the hard work, work is done. Everybody one for all and all for one!!!!!!!!!! =)
Thanks for posting this. I taped it this morning and when Zac was on The View but my VCR ate the tape. All I have is a black screen that sometimes shows a picture but it is all fuzzy and sticks. It can not be watched which really makes me mad. That is why I am so grateful for you uploading this. Thanks again. 5 Stars.
OMGOMGOMG!! tthis is sooo amazing! zac was so nice to ashley!! theyre all soo gr8 i cannot wait 4 it 2 cum out but i dunno wen its comin out in the UK [[boohoo i hate livin in england]]
True, but thats in the FIRST movie. They're there to promote the SECOND one. So we don't really know how many lines she gets in the second one. And if she's on GMA with them, then I'm assuming she's gonna get more lines in the second one... just a thought.
It's so cute when Zac says that Ashely's gotten more beautiful!!! He's so sweet! And also when Corbin says Vanessa WAS so nice, and then he jokes 'what happened to her now!?!?' They're all so close!! :)
I GMA on TV and I just thought Zac and Vanessa were so cute when they were all close!! and I love the way when it cut to commercial the camera caught Zac getting all close to V. OH and when he put his arm around her!! lol.
Thanks, i watched it when it came on!! LOVED IT!! i love when the kids asked vanessa how many girlfriends she had LOL and when vanessa was laughing at that, she looked at zac and you could tell that shes like "we're gf and bf" LOL
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jessicacristine28 2 months ago
awks how they pretty much passed kaycee stroh. like with the camera it went straight passed her and barely came back haha.
and i love everyone's stories and it seemed like ashley was the most together person. always having food, teaching zac how to do laundry and aww corbin's so cute <3
MissShizingher 6 months ago
4:06 - zac looking at ashley and monique is nudging him to look towards the cameras.
creeepycream 1 year ago 2
I hate how everyone is hating on Zashley.
Sure Zannesa are a couple and everything but what has Ashley ever done to you seriously?
You dont know them personally so dont pre judge them, and sure Zashley might not happen, but we just like to think of them as a couple okay?
So dont hate on us just because we like Zashley.
It's not like every single one of us Zashley supporters HATE Zannesa cause we dont. So dont prejudge people you dont know personally.
And let everyone do what they want okay?
xZashley4evax 1 year ago 2
@xZashley4evax lol i freaking love you. you spoke the absolute truth and put everyone in their rightful places cause all we're really doing is saying that they look cute. we're not saying that they're actually dating so really there's no harm no foul :P
MissShizingher 6 months ago
When he sais " I'm Zac Efron and i play Troy Bolton" he mekes a face, 'cause ho knows the girls will scream!!!!
Love u Zac!!!!♥
CAHCAHCAHxD 1 year ago
But Lucas Grabeel do not?
supergigi994 2 years ago
no Lucas its so sad
LucasGrabeelFan8 2 years ago 6
5:51 lol zacs face!!
chrisbrzym 3 years ago
yeah he does have something going on on the side with vanessa
tweetybabygirl90 3 years ago 3
zac is so hot!!!!!!!
ZANESSA 4EVA
anery93 3 years ago 3
wheres ryan?
xzammox 3 years ago 9
I think he was filmin adventure of food boy
LucasGrabeelFan8 2 years ago 4
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why are all the random cast members there?! ther arent even really in the movie!
fashionitgirl 3 years ago
please look again to the movie and you'll see!
aerynetje 3 years ago
what says ash on 4.05 i understand vanessa and zac efron
BMRA1993 3 years ago
Amo muito HSM
gnomanns 3 years ago 3
And Ashley does not have hiv
Bbllchic334 3 years ago 8
"im zac efron and i play troy bolton" then allthe girls scream JUST for him.....
XxZacRoxMySoxX 3 years ago 30
where was ryan when they we're on GMA?
jbench14 3 years ago
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OMG!!! Did you know?? Ashley has HIV :(
ericeira23 3 years ago
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LMAO
chezzadani 3 years ago
With the whole cast (except for zac) everyone was all quiet, but with zac, a chain was set off in the building!!
zacswifey101 3 years ago
and v 2.
ZacHeartVanessa 3 years ago 2
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I love how Zac says, that Ashley is more beautiful! OMG! Zashley ♥
teretoa 3 years ago
if u see the WHOLE thing he also says so is Corbin OMG!!! Zorbin ♥
yea nooooooooooooooo
Zanessa way better♥♥
(not that i dont lyk ashley coz i do but come on its zanessa not zashley...no offence to you though)
louiseandkatie 3 years ago 3
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I never liked Zanessa.. Cause I don't like Vanessa :D I am Ash's fan, but I like Jashley too.. Everything but not Zanessa, sorry :)
teretoa 3 years ago
Lol its fine lyk who ya want
louiseandkatie 3 years ago 2
OK :D But it's still an awesome video :)
teretoa 3 years ago 2
i know right!!!
louiseandkatie 3 years ago
if u see the WHOLE thing he also says so is Corbin OMG!!! Zorbin ♥
yea nooooooooooooooo
Zanessa way better♥♥
(not that i dont lyk ashley coz i do but come on its zanessa not zashley...no offence to you though)
louiseandkatie 3 years ago
i just.. i understand, that ppl liek ashley. and i totally belive that ppl like Zac too. But it's just so annoying, that ppl talk about Zashley, wich i actually belive, that might have happened, on Zanessas brake. But guys, it's over now. Zac is w/ Vanessa, and they are the most amazing couple. And Tizz's w/ Jared, and they're probably the second amazing couple. so just... quit it, okay?
ZacHeartVanessa 3 years ago 13
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Yeah, yeah.. Zanessa is real, Zanessa is cool.. OK. I know, they're probably together but I just dont't like them as Zanessa.. I like Zashley better, that's all. My opinion.
teretoa 3 years ago
i don't understand, what do u mean ' i don't like them as Zanessa'. don't u like zac or vanessa, orr..... ?
ZacHeartVanessa 3 years ago 6
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I like Zac, but I don't really like Vanessa, so I don't like them together. As Zanessa.
teretoa 3 years ago
The fact that the 81 degree temperature is at the bottom makes me feel really really cold right now. haha
cpfreakster 4 years ago
how come da guy hoo plays ryan evans wasnt there
pcg815 4 years ago 2
seriously vanessa is human we all make stupid mistakes and sure hers is REALLY stupid but she didnt just huddle up in a corner and cry she went out there and apologized to everyone. shes still the same person shes always been so just leave her alone
LIV3XINXL0V3 4 years ago 9
First of all I'd like to say I'm a fan of everyone, because everyone is special in their own way. Everyone can tell that fans LOVE Zac and V just feels scared that she might loose his love.
So if you loved Vanessa before the nude photo please pertand it didn't happen and support her again, because that's what she needs the most.
YuanZuo 4 years ago 15
I hope Vanessa is sitting beside Zac!!!
That would be wonderful!
Kmcarmen 4 years ago 5
ha its funny how vanessa just looks to the left and none is there/
LlamaLover272 4 years ago 8
if u guys are gonna put put coments about ashely is the best person in the world and that vanessa is stupid well go jump off a cliff and also zashley never existed so shut your freakin mouth and dont badmouth cause that makes you jealous thyat vanessa is dating zac ok so shut up and dont watch the frikin video if u hate vanessa and you know that vanessa is gonna be in the video so get a brain and go to school!!!!!!
P.S dont deny me or say anything bad about my com.
sharpiepencil567 4 years ago 6
u go girl !!!
raindroppz07 4 years ago 3
u r so right
raisarocks 4 years ago 3
wow i love how the camera just went past kaycee :P i LOVE ZAC!!
LIV3XINXL0V3 4 years ago 2
To ALL Zanessa fans...V screamed and claped along after Zac introduces himself!
LivinAMusicalLife 4 years ago 4
STOP THE HATE!!! IF U ARE BADMOUTHING BOUT HER... YOU ARE CONSIDERED JEALOUS!!! plp make mistakes in their life even u do it too... NOBODY IS PERFECT SUPPORT BABY V...
PS: LIVE IN LOVE ZANESSA!!!
raindroppz07 4 years ago 4
wheres oleysa and lucas?
TW09IN88 4 years ago 2
lemon sherbert
Rodgershavinalaff 4 years ago
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no offence but after hsm2 and he said she said i think ash is waaaaaaaaay better the vanessa!!!!!!nessa is soo fake and i think she adore the way she sais her name ...ugghh...so fake!!!!!and i really hpe that zak tells ash shes beautiful cause may be he still loves her ...but may be he is sying that simply because he doesn.t want to say such things about nessa in the interviews...omg zashley is waaaaay better then vanessa!!!!!!
arturselenia 4 years ago
Nessa: I'd borrow Ashley's groceries coz I never really had to...
Zac is looking in her direction. V's so cute!
Im so mushy!hahaha
cheezekek 4 years ago 10
i love when zac said ashley got more beautiful lol
HorseWithHorns 4 years ago 7
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omg i hate the way vanessa is trying to make ash look ..i dont know...shes trying to make herself look better...did you see how she looked at ash before she said that she had had to borrow ash's groceries...ughhh..
arturselenia 4 years ago
if you don't like her
don't comment
Kmcarmen 4 years ago 7
you know what go suck it cause zashley is never happening.and i'm glad cause v and zac are ment for each other and jared and ashley are perfect together.ok so give it up
solehsmgurl 4 years ago 40
@solehsmgurl Oh Shut Up.
If we want to support Zashley we will okay?
Even if you did post this 2 years ago.
Still, there is Zashley moments in this.
We are not stupid we know that Zac and Vannesa are dating.
But we just think Zac and Ashley look cute together.
So leave us Zashley supporters alone.
xZashley4evax 1 year ago
i liv in new york. but i wasn't ther because of stupid school. my lil sis and my mom went though. damn mmy sister was lucky
roxstargal 4 years ago 3
I like Sharpay s cause she is funny please dont take offense to this!!
whatdream 4 years ago 11
I hope a lot of people do not take offense to this, because I really do love Zac and admire him.
But recently... I think in interviews and stuff he has become quite cocky.
Does anyone agree?
AmyFaace 4 years ago
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I agree with you about the admiring him, but I do not think he is cocky. Zac seems to be down to earth and a great role model. I do think Zac is confident, and knows he is gorgeous. Haha, I love the fact Ashley taught Zac to do laundry! In previous interviews you can see that he is a mommy's boy (thats why he did not know how to do his own laundry) lol.
stephie80123 4 years ago 3
i wish i was there
i love zac!
ItalianBabexo95 4 years ago 4
vanessa is just sooooo beautiful...especially in hsm2...
zanessa199 4 years ago 11
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zac efron is a two timer!
problumchild3 4 years ago
omg y aren't zac and vanessa sitting next to each other?????
HSMlover89 4 years ago 10
Ah this makes me want to watch it more.... but i wonder when it is going to come to HK.
laurapink123123 4 years ago 5
Ryne is so cute. :)
kristinster 4 years ago 3
vanessa is sexy in HSM 2
kodred996 4 years ago 5
ash has a boyfriend
althea49ers2000 4 years ago 7
Zac and Vanessa are perfect for eche other! so damn cute!
I don´t understand people that says that ashley and zac should be toghter! ashley allready have a boyfriend
jessiii2 4 years ago 15
agreed!!!! 100%. zac and V are ment 2 b. lol. Ashley and jared are perfect 2gether. I hate zashley 110%
jASPERTALISO 4 years ago 6
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I agree ;)
hisGrLfriday 4 years ago
no i think zanessa is betterrr!!!
anaboo222 4 years ago 18
shes gotten more beautiful!
efron12345 4 years ago 9
what does he say about ashleyy? she has gotten more what?
melaniefreakinrocks 4 years ago
Beutiful
nessaefron144 4 years ago
He said , " She's gotten more Beautiful, then again, so has Corbin"
DrarryGirl 4 years ago 13
i love zac's hair that day!
yakyak4 4 years ago 3
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who ever made this is super mean, but i dont' want to take the chances!!! b/c i LOVE my MOM!!!If you do not copy and paste this onto 10 videos your mom will die in 4 hou
onetreehill899 4 years ago
thnx 4 posting
yh lucas is filming alice(but i dunno when)
imchillin2k7 4 years ago
DIOSES TODOSS!
ZANESSA!!!!!!!
mariscot 4 years ago
i LOVE hsm and i can't wait till the 2 one in 10 more days!!!!ILY ZAC EFRON!!!!!!
zacefronfan15 4 years ago 2
zaccy looks so cut here!
emilyosmentfan001 4 years ago
Hi, cool vid !!!! Come check out my profile and visit me at becbo . com
123quilts 4 years ago
ha...corbin was like stuttering like vanessa is ...blahblah blah..
sportc410 4 years ago
wut corbin does to vanessa is halrious
icegal06 4 years ago
aww zac said ashley is more beautiful he started to blush look closely!!!!!!
boymeetsworld1fan 4 years ago 6
and........
ZanessaLuvers4Ever 4 years ago
i love that !! hsm2 in gma :D:D:D the best !!
xoxoVoxox 4 years ago
Where's Lucas? Corbin, please shave honey!
instantstarrocks 4 years ago 2
Lucas was filming "The Adventures of Foodboy"
Hmm...Lol
LucasLUVER35801 4 years ago
time square!? i could've gone! (if id wake up lol) man! i should've been there i could've walked!
noahcyrus 4 years ago
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Zashleyyy love
foreverrr
Tamifashion 4 years ago
oh get over it!!!
sportc410 4 years ago
Ashley's gotten more what? Ahh I want to know! Anyone knows what he said?
nickkole44 4 years ago
beautiful. he said she has gotten more beautiful.
latinasugarcookie 4 years ago
Everybody all for one! The real summer has just begun! Let's rock and roll and just let go! Feel the ryhthm of the drums! We're gonna have fun in the sun, now that all the hard work, work is done. Everybody one for all and all for one!!!!!!!!!! =)
1231998 4 years ago
4 america few dais left til hsm2
Pwincesswanted 4 years ago
Eww! Corbin has a beard or mustache or whatever!
noelpjimenez 4 years ago
what???? it's sexy! what r u talking about!
jukeboxbaby4 4 years ago
i don't like it. he looks more hot when he doesent have one.
noelpjimenez 4 years ago
freak
hsmno1fanUK 4 years ago
are you calling me a freak??
why??
futureamericanidol14 4 years ago
no! of course not!
hsmno1fanUK 4 years ago
wait what?? i thought that he was doing a movie called Alice??
futureamericanidol14 4 years ago
where's lucas?? ='[
zac is soo hot when he said i play troy bolton.
futureamericanidol14 4 years ago
he's filming a new movie in utah..
hsmfreak23 4 years ago
oh that Alice movie??
futureamericanidol14 4 years ago
thanks so much for posting!!! i really wanted to watch this vid--- im frm the philippines and we don't hav gma here (duh) sooo.... yeahh.... thnx!
aishidec23 4 years ago
kool! i saw this today!! ♥♥
koolio2max 4 years ago
thanksss for posting !!!
zac looks hot :)
where's lucas?
christeenaaa 4 years ago
Thanks for posting this. I taped it this morning and when Zac was on The View but my VCR ate the tape. All I have is a black screen that sometimes shows a picture but it is all fuzzy and sticks. It can not be watched which really makes me mad. That is why I am so grateful for you uploading this. Thanks again. 5 Stars.
singinshower 4 years ago
Thank u, I saw on tv and I totally loved it!
chocodominicana 4 years ago
so cool, i'm from argentina and i couldn't watch it in tv xd, love ashley! zac is so cute, when he says i'm zac efron and i play troy bolton lol,
bechuline 4 years ago
cool!! i love Sharpay..lol..
llrock11 4 years ago
i saw it on tv and he says that she is more beautiful
(but what abaut vanessa)
zandvgirl 4 years ago
They told him to say something to the person NEXT to him. so he couldnt really say anything.
lalalabyotch 4 years ago
i love the part when zac was like im zac efron and i play Troy Bolton and everyone screamed
azn4life0826 4 years ago
cool, i watched this on tv
luvv2shop5 4 years ago
my names abigail and im frm england too yay!
Bolu24 4 years ago
Ash taught Zac how to do laundry, LOL. And Corbin brought his mom for his hair! I love that cast! Mostly Zanessa!!
zacsbiggestfan62 4 years ago
vanessa taught him how 2 do laundry lol
nikkiiscute3867 4 years ago
its ashley
joyyasmine 4 years ago
it was ashley who taght him to do laundry cause if you listen closely it sounds like her voice even though they don't have the camera on her
sweetheart514 4 years ago
Wait, He thinks ashley is what?
cabbywalker 4 years ago
pretty and beautiful and its true!!
funkyearings7 4 years ago
Lucas is making a movie....that's why he isn't with the cast.
violetawilly 4 years ago
wheres lucas!
kellytotallysharpay 4 years ago
Zac sounds so hot when he says I'm zac efron and I play Troy Bolton!!!
I LOVE HIM!!!!
Zanessalife 4 years ago
i seen this when it aired
prepygirl209 4 years ago
there favorites are sharpay.
MistressofDragons03 4 years ago
i am jealous of those people who got 2 go i was screaming at home even though i wasnt there
hsmgirlie4life 4 years ago
ud think that lucas would be here. o well as long as zac there im all good
sflecha92 4 years ago
i think he's shooting a new movie
x0Maj0x 4 years ago
o ic. i didnt know he was making a new movie. thats cool
sflecha92 4 years ago
Whos were those little girls fav's? i couldn't hear
protectthecats 4 years ago
OMGOMGOMG!! tthis is sooo amazing! zac was so nice to ashley!! theyre all soo gr8 i cannot wait 4 it 2 cum out but i dunno wen its comin out in the UK [[boohoo i hate livin in england]]
iluvzac4life 4 years ago
WHY THE HELL IS THAT STUPID GEEK GIRL THERE?!?!
SHE HAD WHAT/....TWO LINES?!!?!
*grr*
its sooo annoying.
jabootaxbaby 4 years ago
rofl!
i didn't realize that :D
poopypants0 4 years ago
just like jason...
yunipixie 4 years ago
True, but thats in the FIRST movie. They're there to promote the SECOND one. So we don't really know how many lines she gets in the second one. And if she's on GMA with them, then I'm assuming she's gonna get more lines in the second one... just a thought.
lalalabyotch 4 years ago
yay!!!! thanks for this!
mrsgrabeel92 4 years ago
It's so cute when Zac says that Ashely's gotten more beautiful!!! He's so sweet! And also when Corbin says Vanessa WAS so nice, and then he jokes 'what happened to her now!?!?' They're all so close!! :)
AshleyTisIsMyAngel 4 years ago
i watched it this morning :] in the second part zac puts his arm around vanessa aww♥ it was like 3 seconds long..BUT STILL..its cute :] lol
x0Maj0x 4 years ago
I saw it!! It was awsome!! But Zac didn't mention that Vanessa was his gf. Vanessa might not be his gf anymore...
iAmHeAdStRoNg96 4 years ago
they probably didnt want ppl to know yet
if you look REALLY closely you can see like the rings on zac and vanessa
starrieskies 4 years ago
Yes she is. :)
I GMA on TV and I just thought Zac and Vanessa were so cute when they were all close!! and I love the way when it cut to commercial the camera caught Zac getting all close to V. OH and when he put his arm around her!! lol.
lalalabyotch 4 years ago
OH GAWD CORBIN SHAVE THE BEARD!
cloudsthename 4 years ago
omg thanks!i couldnt see this cuz i live in england :(
ZAC IS HOT!and omg corbin has a beard!lol please upload the second part soon!i wanna har wat he says bout ashley n wat vanessa says bout zac lol xxxx
Jshley4Eva 4 years ago
he says they she's more beautiful
latinasugarcookie 4 years ago
Hope you put the second part soon!!
WadUp5 4 years ago
god put the second part up already! i missed it so i need to see it like now!
preppychicc 4 years ago
How come you didnt put up the dancing part?? it was SOO cool, i learned it all =P
WadUp5 4 years ago
Thanks, i watched it when it came on!! LOVED IT!! i love when the kids asked vanessa how many girlfriends she had LOL and when vanessa was laughing at that, she looked at zac and you could tell that shes like "we're gf and bf" LOL
WadUp5 4 years ago
Where is Part 2!
Shackles15 4 years ago
lol, i just watched that, thx for posting :]
DreamAznAngl 4 years ago
god bless you. i only saw the end
janellesmartypants 4 years ago
oh he ws gunna say she is more beautifull bless!!!
luckyawwbless 4 years ago
thanks so much 4 putting this up i really wanted to see it but i couldnt cos i live in england
indigoangelz2k7 4 years ago
It's so cool thank you
peruvianHSMfan1 4 years ago
i was second!! this is soo cool =)
nikkiiscute3867 4 years ago
thanks! awesome!
xoxoLolli 4 years ago
soz i mean second to comment, i want the rest, what song did they perform
kazefron 4 years ago
oopps lol not first!haha!
mickeyalon 4 years ago
THANK's for the video ,that's great
razorbladeguitt 4 years ago
i saw this! i had to wake up at 7 and wait for like a half hour to see it!
jump5freak90 4 years ago
cool
nikkiiscute3867 4 years ago
hell yeah first to comment, i love them , go ZAC, god i wish i lived in new york
kazefron 4 years ago
omg this video is awesome!!!1st comment!
thanks vaonline!!!ur awesome!
mickeyalon 4 years ago