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same story with me aswel lead me to trying strangling myself. it basically numbs emotion and empathy so the idea of suicide becomes logical you cant empathise with how others feel or even yourself. it took only 2 weeks for me to feel that bad i was reacting to my fathers death and doctor gave me this drug!! drugs companies are scum. aswel as psychiatrists and doctors who dont care.
i used to take prozac and i did well on it,the most "normal" i`ve been in my life.But i couldnt "cum",which was frustrating.Then i discover that prozac is a fluorinated drug,so i quit it.I`ve had thyroid problems since quitting,but i`m glad i quit.Fluorinated drugs are bad for the body and brain
I've been on 20mg of fluoxetine for 10 days now, Its working quite well. No longer feel agitated at friends or family, conversing more and just a greater sense of well-being. These side affects are extremely rare and so don't be put off taking antidepressants, they help millions of people.
@000TQ000 I've been on it (20mg) for nearly 3 years..... You'll probably have to get used to it for a while, at least the right side of your face and neck aren't plastered to your shoulder. The constant twitching is going to drive me to insanity.
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There's an unintentional pun in there..... somewhere.
@jackanoryjames I've been taking it for nearly a month now and it just makes me feel really tired all the time, I thought it would make me feel more confident and happy but no, seems like I'm gonna have to sort my head out with a psychiatrist :(
we as human beings all look for logical answers for the things we do,and no ones perfect, but to blame prozac for wot u do and your actions is not your answer,how come some hav no side effects at all ?doesnt add up,go blame sumthin else like yor mind,its just weird how wot u blame also has opposite effect on others,its also helped many .u go figure.....
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dude prozac works wonders, if your not taking it at the same time every day then shit will fuck with you. but ive been on it almost a week and feel like im on top of the world. drugs are serious, so if you cant be responsible then don't take them. some people are stupid with them and stop taking them when their not supposed, so of course they will get fucked up. lmfao...
Some people are stupid like you. SSRI's are trial and error for most people. Prozac for the wrong person can make them even more depressed. It has no effect on someone in their first week. it takes about 4 months. The only reaction you get is dizziness. There is no on top of the world feelings with SSRI's. If you want that try cocaine. Due to floride in prozac along with the dopeamine boost causes a calming feeling. I have been on prozac for a year now and know it pretty well.
Some doctor prescribe me fluoxetine to treat a minor depression and after some doses I got a mild mydriasis(my pupils looks bigger than before), I can't sleep well at night(wake up at midnight), I have anxiety and strange nightmares. God I only hope the side effects and withdrawals don´t last forever. These things piss me off.
Antidepressants are dangerous drugs and shouldnt be prescribed as antigripals. Be sure of the side effects before taking any medication.
ive been on it for almost a month now and ive been having some awful nightmares, things I would never normally dream, and they are always so vivid and disturbing. x.x also loss of appetite, and sleeping is difficult at times as well.
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one must most importantly consider the adverse effects of substance use on different people, and how we do not have a universal response. For some, floxetine has worked miracles, for others it has destroyed. For this reason, states of psychosis/depression and mental disorders are the most difficult to treat with a degree of certainty.
Prozac is the easiest SSRI to withdrawal from due to its long half life.Actually its the best antidepressant to go off of. Try getting off of Paxil or Effexor, you miss one dose and you know it right away! But by no means am I saying Prozac is the best antidepressant to take.
I was diagnosed w/ anxiety and depression. My psych gave me 10 mg of prozac a day for 3 months. It didn't help me but made me worse. Nausea, confusion, antsy, and not to mention suicidal. The withdrawls was worst. The dr. Should lose his license.
Those findings are inconclusive, flawed, and given the state of the science, do not prove anything. BTW, you are arguing two incompatible sides to your gospel: from a gross anatomical and cell level argument, simultaneously. Any study would call this a confounded study. Again, the science is still speculative, but what would I know, I only have post graduate work in neuroscience.
And now, you have the potential of compounded side effects, which then, might necessitate the introduction of other drugs. Such is the cascading effects of polypharmacalogical interventions. The big pharmas will love you.
Not to come off as a nutty, conspiracy-minded Scientologist, but the "disease" model of depression was proposed well before any "serious" psychopharmacalogical research had been done by the big medico-therapeutic industry. Nevertheless, even with disclaimers(have you ever watched the Zoloft commercials, where it is avered that, "...it is not known how" the depressed brain works on Zoloft? These new generation neuroleptics can also carry serious side effects-better doing pot, or exercising.
No. And as I have educated myself over this chemical imbalance debate, I have also found that psychiatry has a lot to answer for. I could go into exhaustive detail as to why I decided neuroleptic drugs are no good, but that would be too long a story. I suggest you read up on Szasz, especially his "The myth of mental illness", which is still timely in its insights.
i came off fluoxetine ,cold turkey after taking 40mil a day for 18months,,,very bad move!i had shakes,shivers, muscle cramps ,severe dizziness,muscle spasms,nightmares,feelings of detachment from reality,i felt like i wasnt in control of my own body,very scary.heating up or uncontrolable flushing ,my spine felt like id broken it and it was on fire!i had to go back on it after 12weeks.these symptoms have lasted though getting progressivly less since taking it again.for 15 months since then.
I've tried several of these, Fontex(Prozac), Zoloft, Seroxat(Paxil), Cipramil and so on, it's just shit, totally worthless medicine, I say That Benzodiazepines are the best medicin against problems like this that ever was find. so my advise is to all people to try them instead, Xanor(Xanax) or Diazepam or something else. tell your doctors that they prescript them for you instead. Have a nice life everybody
hmm, Maybe you just have to find the right doctor that thinks that Benzodiazepines is a good medicine, (which it really is) if it's used in the right way! Good luck to you :)
I would recommend escitalopram (Lexapro), which is in the same class of antidepressant as Prosac (an SSRI) and has no major side effects. I have been taking it for the past 4 years and it is great. I am so grateful to my psychiatrist for putting it on the drug - my life is so much better now (it couldn't be much worse!)
No discernable effects, at least. So, having yourself chemically altered, and no longer having to reckon with why you are feeling what you are has made your life better? If feelings of sadness are to be medicated, what does that say about your thoughts that create the negative mood? I think sadness is not a disease, but a sign post.
And you arrive at this model of depression through what means? The explanatory model of depression, as a chemical imbalance, is not fact, but based on a flimsy and oblique analogy made of "healthy" brains. To date, there have been no studies to prove what neurotransmitters, and how those yet to be discovered neurotransmitters would interact with environmental triggers. No more is known about the space between the ears, than the space filled with stars. However, if it comfort for you, go for it.
Nonsense. Scientific researchers have done scans of the brain of depressed individuals and found reduced brain activity - a physical characteristic. Since serotonin is responsible for communication between neurons in the brain, the role of SSRI antidepressants is clear in that they have the effect of increasing the amount of serotonin in the right places, and this has the effect of increasing the communication between brain cells - this effect can be seen in brain scans.
Read my reply. Brain scan studies have also been done to "prove" that individuals with ADD have discernible and pronounced irregularities in glucose uptake in their prefrontal lobe areas(as per use of radioactively tagged glucose). If you do some digging, as I have-both at university and through peer research-you will find that these studies were also flawed. Google this, and you will see that CT scans, and the like, are not conclusive, and only point to metabolic shifts, not behaviour.
Sorry, but the scans are at a macroanatomical level and say nothing about how behaviours are manifested. I can have trouble with dealing with the way my life has turned out, be poor, and loveless, and show "colour" changes through CT scanning. This does not mean I have a diseased brain, as psychiatrists and pharmaceuticals would like me to believe. Depression is not a disease, and treated as such, shows little responsiveness to many individuals. Placebo effect and caring for one can ammeiliorate
Well I am no expert, and if you have studied it at university and after then you clearly know quite a lot.
All I can say is that in my experience antidepressants work and work well, and other treatments such as CBT or "shaking yourself out of it" or "thinking about something else" do not.
Antidepressants have given me my life back.
Can you suggest an alternative treatment for the condition that I could try out? I'm open to ideas of course.
That would be Transcranial stimulation. There have also been procedures with Vagus nerve stimulation(VNS), and deep brain stimulation (DBS), both done to real no effect, but neurosurgeons(vascular surgeons for VNS, as it involves the carotid sheath, a potentially risky procedure) don't balk at such procedures, as they are very lucrative. Usually the patient is left with having to remain on drugs, as these devises don't do anything clinically significant, but in limited cases of Parkinsons.
You don't have to be a doctor to post a treatment option here on youtube :-) but I do think that the best option for me is to continue the antidepressants I am taking. They work well with no problems.
I would be interested to know a little more about how you arrived at your diagnosis of depression. Not to come off as a nosey, busy body, but I would very much like to know how long you have been on meds, what meds you have tried, and what other treatments you have tried, as well as your present situation. PM me if you'd like.
We're gonna need to deminstrate more persuasive measures of addressing this issue , such as violence . This will be far less incentive pump toxins into people until they blow their brain out and/or someone elses' . Have we become so accustomed to apathy and chemical dependancy that we allow these crimes to go unanwsered ? You see a drug rep , KICK HIS ASS !!!!
if u get on prozac or fuloxitine make sure ur not tring to get high u ediots cause there 4 real pills if where u are is tha worst place in life in ur life prozc is 4 u but u will fell tha same 4 a wile before it works when life is hell to u this can help when u fight urself on everything this is 4 u but if u dont have suvear depression or sucidle thought well both and very bad then dont go for help makes sence half tha people that took this drug wa prob like this i believe but there mind is set
ok im 19 was a druggy smoker that didnt give a fuk about me and realliey wanted a gun to blow my fuking brain out so i didnt want to go to tha doctor cause i was reaily fuked up in tha head i was weard around others it was like i could rember who i was but couldnt be me again 4 some reason life was dull i lost my sences to love trust picking up on normial things ben taking prozac4 3mounths ifuloxitine 4 3 mounths not hard pills but anyways my doses are 20mg a pill im up to 60mg a day
I'm on prozac and its the only medication that has actually worked for me. I have had adverse affects from other antidepressants but I don't think you can blame prozac for someone attempting suicide. Although there is a corellation I think it depends on the kind of person taking it. I was a total mess before it and you have to weigh up the risks.
A small warning to the killers who are profiting from these drugs. Including teachers who push the drugs.
GOD will take care of YOU, YOUR CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN. The Bible says that the curse will last 3 generations. NO ONE in your family will see a HAPPY DAY.
Albval's right. The Church of scientology has also been launching a campaign to establish it's "audit" system as the best anti-depressant...and it costs 1000 dollars to listen to an hour of audits. Perhaps there are withdrawal symptoms, but all drugs are addictive, including Tylenol and other household drugs.
Prozac was the only med that worked for me. I took it in 1995 and it healed my OCD, depression and anxiety. I felt great when taking it. The people in this video have no proof that Prozac was the CAUSE of the reactions. Those people already had problems. Had it not been for Prozac, they would probably all be dead now.
Hi Albval I have all the same symptons as you had Can i ask how long it took you to get better on prozac. I also take prozac at the moment and have my up and down days
HOLY SHIT EFFEXOR IS BAD. COMING OFF IT IS WORSE. it worked for a while though. Taking prozac since it has a ridiculous half life will make ur come down from effexor alot better though... which i didnt know.
Wake up. Anyone taking prozac should be a consenting adult that can read a list of adverse side effects. Every case here stated "I'd been taking prozac for about a month before I.." blah blah blah(shot my wife, my boss, raped my dog, etc.--> insert sad story here.) How long does it take to realize it's not having the desired effect? Here's my favorite, "I was never suicidal before I took it!" Then what the fuck were you taking it for? Prozac is for severe depression, not cuz you dislike mondays.
My parents forced me to take this crap at the tender age of 14. I wasn't suicidal, just a little down because I had bad acne. well I took it for 3 months because they threatened to lock me up in a mental hospital if I didn't. I was not a raving maniac, I was a good son. anyway All I can say is that crap put me in a fog, or maybe it was just the fact I had no rights or that my say didn't matter, I felt like a little white lab rat. i didn't care about ANYTHING after, I felt so used and inhuman.
also it diffenitly makes you more likely to do things that comin to your head when you would normally just shout at someone who is anoying you. your likly to strike out
you were lucky then, i had the WORST horrific side effects from stopping prozac. it completely destroyed my life. memory loss, muscle spasms, passing out, "electric shocks", episodes where i couldnt move or speak, sweating, chills, etc. and that was just the PHYSICAL symptoms. pass me heroin any day, at least they warn you withdrawal can be hell.
i wish i never started taking it, or never stopped. how long did you take it?
p.s. saying that i wish no one said it was bad for me so i stopped taking it. i also never thoughtbthese weird stories were true, but i only figured out it was prozac withdrawals because i had similar withdrawals before in the exact time frame, but this time they were more intense and i couldnt stop the withdrawal symptoms as i reacted differently to the med.
Actually I was on Lexapro, which is in the same family of SSRI antidepressant drugs as prozac. But I'm sure the same principle applies.
I'm sorry to hear about the experiences you had with Prozac. I guess that some people must have these problems. Although a friend of mine is currently coming off prozac after a very short period of time on it, and he is not suffering any withdrawl symptoms.
I assume you tapered off them, and didn't stop taking them in one go?
What I was complaining about was the blanket statement that coming off prozac is as hard as coming off heroin. It should say that some people have reported this problem.
Also another thing I am concerned about is whether some people (I am not saying you are in this category) are saying they had these terrible withdrawl symptoms just to allow them to claim compensation.
i was on it for 13 years, doctor took me off cold turkey. pass the heroin anyday. i've heard of people that have done both heroin and antidepressants and they say the antidepressants can be worse if you no longer have acces to it. i think that the only people that are well enough to claim compensation didnt do to badly coming of it. they survived.
You mean you were taking prozac for 13 years and your doctor took you off them suddenly?
But didn't your doctor know or say that you must never stop taking SSRI drugs like prozac suddenly - you MUST taper the dose down gradually to allow your body to adjust to the change.
So maybe the problems you experienced were due to that sudden stop rather than the drug itself?
er, yeah, thats why it says "Withdrawal from Prozac is harder than withdrawing from heroin! "
its problems from withdrawals! all the scientific literature at the time said there are NO withdrawals of prozac (of course not because its not addictive! ) the doctors start and stop you on medication all the time from what i experienced. :( anyhoo, i hear it is changes in doses that makes you go nuts, whether increase or decrease that you have to be careful with...
"Although some of the most addictive SSRI [Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor] drugs available were originally marketed as non-addicting, now many long-term users are suffering hopelessly after years of trying unsuccessfully to discontinue their medication. Some patients have lost their lives in the process of trying. "
OK so you had problems coming off prozac cold turkey. May I ask have you had problems coming off the drug by tapering down the dose. And what about the other people you mention. Is it possible that they too had been given bad advice by their doctors to also come off the drug cold turkey?
I just have a hunch that there is some misinformation here that might be giving people the wrong idea about these drugs. I'm not blaming you for this.
I think there IS a big difference by tapering off them. I myself had three days not taking them (by mistake), and I got fairly dizzy. But tapering them down I had no problems at all.
i did also have problems coming off of it "slowly" i have heard from people who tapered very slowly and they seem to be ok until it gets to be a zero dose.. then they end up with all sorts of problems. oddly enough, if you arent on it too long (eg months) i have known people to come off cold turkey and be FINE.. so who knows. i think people should just be more careful about what they dish out. now i hear antidepressants are a "one way street"...
Well thanks for the conversation, and good luck. I'm sure there will be a lot of new discoveries about depression and antidepressants in the near future.
There is something called "drug storage." For some people, even if they've successfully tapered/weaned off their meds, the side effects can remain dormant years after they've stopped taking the drugs. The side effects are triggered under certain conditions, such as exercise, excessive stress...
i just want to know what is causing my increasing memory loss, dramatically per DAY. i know its something "chemical" because of other problems not just "stress" . even in Alzheimers you dont lose your memory in 8 weeks (no i have not had any "traumatic injury" except maybe psychiatric meds..
It's important to understand that these drugs change the biochemistry of your body and brain. Essentially, they change your DNA- the essence of who you are- because they work at the molecular level. If you count the symptoms of depression and count the possible side effects, the side effects are greater than the symptoms. Basically, people create more problems for themselves by taking antidepressants.
tell me about it, i didnt take them by choice at first, i certainly never asked for them.. i just wish i had known they were addictive. my body has been completely creamed by "medication"
emptyzz, one of the main ingredients in these drugs is fluoride, and believe me it does kill memory, but once you're off you will hopefully regain your memory. Try to avoid tap water that is fluoridated and fluoridated toothpaste, too... Believe it or not it's the same drug. They are drugging us through the water supply (check to see if your local municipality fluoridates).
thanks, but my memory got worse from withdrawals, seriously, i think they did both times i tried to withdraw, the second time i couldnt catch it in time and after being off prozac for 6 months, i suddenly lost my memory in a space of 6 weeks, basically completely. and i gave up the shit to be healthier! i now have permanent neurological damage from trying to get off it/getting off of it because i didnt react the same trying to go on again. i would be luckier if i had commited suicide.
I'm really sorry to hear that, emptyz - If I were you I would try taking Krill Oil from mercola dot com - the brain needs the essential fatty acids.
I would also take Modifilan dot com because I believe it could help repair some of the damage, according to what I've seen it do for people with brain damage.
Hi i'm really intrested in what you said I use alchohol so that probably explains why i'm loosing my memory but yeah you said it took just 8 weeks that is weird it could be something to do with the meds i don't know???
How long were you taking it...I doubt very long if you werent shaking. Shut the fuck up moron. You obviously never went through any type of antipsychotic medication withdrawal.
Thank you! Some common sense! When I was on prozac years ago, I was convinced by someone to get off it cold turkey, so I did. Things went fine until a month later of being off it. I became heavily depressed. SIMPLY BECAUSE I GOT OFF THE MEDICATION SO SUDDENLY. Prozac isn't for everyone, and that's clear. I absolutely 100% agree with you when you say not to try and scare others from using it. Thanks.
All of the SSRI (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor) drugs, and other mind drugs, can cause suicides or homicides regardless of the age of the user. Psychiatrists and the FDA hide the fact that these drugs are so dangerous.
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Sinobabaz7 2 weeks ago
If they were not contemplating suicide or extremely depressed why were they taking it?
Iwuzhere321 6 months ago
same story with me aswel lead me to trying strangling myself. it basically numbs emotion and empathy so the idea of suicide becomes logical you cant empathise with how others feel or even yourself. it took only 2 weeks for me to feel that bad i was reacting to my fathers death and doctor gave me this drug!! drugs companies are scum. aswel as psychiatrists and doctors who dont care.
AWhileHanlin 8 months ago
this shit lead me to suicide aswel when i was 18. seems im certainly not alone. drugs companies are scum.
AWhileHanlin 8 months ago
i used to take prozac and i did well on it,the most "normal" i`ve been in my life.But i couldnt "cum",which was frustrating.Then i discover that prozac is a fluorinated drug,so i quit it.I`ve had thyroid problems since quitting,but i`m glad i quit.Fluorinated drugs are bad for the body and brain
IwontConform 11 months ago
Note to Self: Stop taking Prozac
frogirl1993 1 year ago
I couldn't watch the video
jacobh849 1 year ago
I've been on 20mg of fluoxetine for 10 days now, Its working quite well. No longer feel agitated at friends or family, conversing more and just a greater sense of well-being. These side affects are extremely rare and so don't be put off taking antidepressants, they help millions of people.
012524 1 year ago
I've been taking fluoxetine for 4 days now.....and it makes me want to shit!
000TQ000 1 year ago 2
@000TQ000 I've been on it (20mg) for nearly 3 years..... You'll probably have to get used to it for a while, at least the right side of your face and neck aren't plastered to your shoulder. The constant twitching is going to drive me to insanity.
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There's an unintentional pun in there..... somewhere.
jackanoryjames 1 year ago 2
@jackanoryjames I've been taking it for nearly a month now and it just makes me feel really tired all the time, I thought it would make me feel more confident and happy but no, seems like I'm gonna have to sort my head out with a psychiatrist :(
000TQ000 1 year ago
we as human beings all look for logical answers for the things we do,and no ones perfect, but to blame prozac for wot u do and your actions is not your answer,how come some hav no side effects at all ?doesnt add up,go blame sumthin else like yor mind,its just weird how wot u blame also has opposite effect on others,its also helped many .u go figure.....
braking100 1 year ago
prozac made me gain weight like crazy.
hematitecrow 1 year ago
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xthcmusic 2 years ago
dude prozac works wonders, if your not taking it at the same time every day then shit will fuck with you. but ive been on it almost a week and feel like im on top of the world. drugs are serious, so if you cant be responsible then don't take them. some people are stupid with them and stop taking them when their not supposed, so of course they will get fucked up. lmfao...
alieco 2 years ago
Some people are stupid like you. SSRI's are trial and error for most people. Prozac for the wrong person can make them even more depressed. It has no effect on someone in their first week. it takes about 4 months. The only reaction you get is dizziness. There is no on top of the world feelings with SSRI's. If you want that try cocaine. Due to floride in prozac along with the dopeamine boost causes a calming feeling. I have been on prozac for a year now and know it pretty well.
SicTransitGIoria 2 years ago
yea and they keep prescirbing this shittt.. im 18 now and they kept prescirbing antidepressants plus antiphychotics. prozac is disgusting..
LordWhoseLavin 2 years ago
Aldous Huxley wrote of the Brave New World where we all lived in artificial bliss. Taking "soma" to achieve happiness.
This day is quite close, self medication of legal drugs to escape reality.
If not that then alcohol, illegal drugs like exstasy. The numbing down has begun.
LabRat6619 2 years ago
Amen, brother. Amen.
qnsphilosopher 2 years ago
u all just need to smoke a joint of a good sativa bud!
MrSamreeves 2 years ago
Agreed, my life has improved along with my thoughts, actions, and complete outlook on life.
xHayzul 2 years ago
Some doctor prescribe me fluoxetine to treat a minor depression and after some doses I got a mild mydriasis(my pupils looks bigger than before), I can't sleep well at night(wake up at midnight), I have anxiety and strange nightmares. God I only hope the side effects and withdrawals don´t last forever. These things piss me off.
Antidepressants are dangerous drugs and shouldnt be prescribed as antigripals. Be sure of the side effects before taking any medication.
Sunrise8686 2 years ago
I also read that prozac can cause nerve and brain damage, stifle the creativity, permanent neurochemical changes, baldess, apathy and impotence.
Be really careful.
Sunrise8686 2 years ago
ive been on it for almost a month now and ive been having some awful nightmares, things I would never normally dream, and they are always so vivid and disturbing. x.x also loss of appetite, and sleeping is difficult at times as well.
thelightandtheglass1 2 years ago 2
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hsttraindriver 2 years ago
Gun Rights taken if you use drugs prescribed to you.
Psychiatry is a political tool.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
one must most importantly consider the adverse effects of substance use on different people, and how we do not have a universal response. For some, floxetine has worked miracles, for others it has destroyed. For this reason, states of psychosis/depression and mental disorders are the most difficult to treat with a degree of certainty.
d1ffsta 2 years ago 2
Prozac is the easiest SSRI to withdrawal from due to its long half life.Actually its the best antidepressant to go off of. Try getting off of Paxil or Effexor, you miss one dose and you know it right away! But by no means am I saying Prozac is the best antidepressant to take.
derek2653 2 years ago 5
I was diagnosed w/ anxiety and depression. My psych gave me 10 mg of prozac a day for 3 months. It didn't help me but made me worse. Nausea, confusion, antsy, and not to mention suicidal. The withdrawls was worst. The dr. Should lose his license.
stoie1898 2 years ago
you took it for 3 months with all of those side effects? you should lose your license
gigiinla 2 years ago
Those findings are inconclusive, flawed, and given the state of the science, do not prove anything. BTW, you are arguing two incompatible sides to your gospel: from a gross anatomical and cell level argument, simultaneously. Any study would call this a confounded study. Again, the science is still speculative, but what would I know, I only have post graduate work in neuroscience.
whiff1962 2 years ago
o shit im scared now i was on 2 prozac pills a day and the docs switched it to 1 prozac and one efferexin and 1 aderax to help me sleep at night.
legend1617 2 years ago
And now, you have the potential of compounded side effects, which then, might necessitate the introduction of other drugs. Such is the cascading effects of polypharmacalogical interventions. The big pharmas will love you.
whiff1962 2 years ago
Not to come off as a nutty, conspiracy-minded Scientologist, but the "disease" model of depression was proposed well before any "serious" psychopharmacalogical research had been done by the big medico-therapeutic industry. Nevertheless, even with disclaimers(have you ever watched the Zoloft commercials, where it is avered that, "...it is not known how" the depressed brain works on Zoloft? These new generation neuroleptics can also carry serious side effects-better doing pot, or exercising.
whiff1962 2 years ago
i wont be on them for life...just step em down slowly.instead of going cold turkey.have you ever taken it?
paulopezz 2 years ago
No. And as I have educated myself over this chemical imbalance debate, I have also found that psychiatry has a lot to answer for. I could go into exhaustive detail as to why I decided neuroleptic drugs are no good, but that would be too long a story. I suggest you read up on Szasz, especially his "The myth of mental illness", which is still timely in its insights.
whiff1962 2 years ago
Hey Germankrigare, you suggest ppl to take benzodiazepines instead of ssri's? Are you crazy, try coming off benzos, that is hell!
derek2653 3 years ago
i came off fluoxetine ,cold turkey after taking 40mil a day for 18months,,,very bad move!i had shakes,shivers, muscle cramps ,severe dizziness,muscle spasms,nightmares,feelings of detachment from reality,i felt like i wasnt in control of my own body,very scary.heating up or uncontrolable flushing ,my spine felt like id broken it and it was on fire!i had to go back on it after 12weeks.these symptoms have lasted though getting progressivly less since taking it again.for 15 months since then.
paulopezz 3 years ago
And that is what the pharmaceuticals are happy to hear: lifetime medication. I prefer my medicine that grows in soil :^)
whiff1962 2 years ago
I've tried several of these, Fontex(Prozac), Zoloft, Seroxat(Paxil), Cipramil and so on, it's just shit, totally worthless medicine, I say That Benzodiazepines are the best medicin against problems like this that ever was find. so my advise is to all people to try them instead, Xanor(Xanax) or Diazepam or something else. tell your doctors that they prescript them for you instead. Have a nice life everybody
germankrigare 3 years ago
...that's right guy,it's just shit!
oloscience 3 years ago
docs wont prescribe diazepam here in uk too addictive
ukandoittowithkandoo 3 years ago
hmm, Maybe you just have to find the right doctor that thinks that Benzodiazepines is a good medicine, (which it really is) if it's used in the right way! Good luck to you :)
germankrigare 3 years ago
WTF??!!! I AM ON IT AND I FEEL GOOOOOD
luciferAir 3 years ago
I would recommend escitalopram (Lexapro), which is in the same class of antidepressant as Prosac (an SSRI) and has no major side effects. I have been taking it for the past 4 years and it is great. I am so grateful to my psychiatrist for putting it on the drug - my life is so much better now (it couldn't be much worse!)
neil9327 3 years ago
No discernable effects, at least. So, having yourself chemically altered, and no longer having to reckon with why you are feeling what you are has made your life better? If feelings of sadness are to be medicated, what does that say about your thoughts that create the negative mood? I think sadness is not a disease, but a sign post.
whiff1962 2 years ago
But I do recon with why I was feeling bad - it was the chemical/biological imbalance in my brain that was the underlying cause of the problem.
It was not a psychological problem that could be treated with therapy.
It was the negative mood that caused the thoughts, not the other way round.
Sadness is not depression - they are similar, but different in many ways
neil9327 2 years ago
And you arrive at this model of depression through what means? The explanatory model of depression, as a chemical imbalance, is not fact, but based on a flimsy and oblique analogy made of "healthy" brains. To date, there have been no studies to prove what neurotransmitters, and how those yet to be discovered neurotransmitters would interact with environmental triggers. No more is known about the space between the ears, than the space filled with stars. However, if it comfort for you, go for it.
whiff1962 2 years ago
Nonsense. Scientific researchers have done scans of the brain of depressed individuals and found reduced brain activity - a physical characteristic. Since serotonin is responsible for communication between neurons in the brain, the role of SSRI antidepressants is clear in that they have the effect of increasing the amount of serotonin in the right places, and this has the effect of increasing the communication between brain cells - this effect can be seen in brain scans.
neil9327 2 years ago
Read my reply. Brain scan studies have also been done to "prove" that individuals with ADD have discernible and pronounced irregularities in glucose uptake in their prefrontal lobe areas(as per use of radioactively tagged glucose). If you do some digging, as I have-both at university and through peer research-you will find that these studies were also flawed. Google this, and you will see that CT scans, and the like, are not conclusive, and only point to metabolic shifts, not behaviour.
whiff1962 2 years ago
Sorry, but the scans are at a macroanatomical level and say nothing about how behaviours are manifested. I can have trouble with dealing with the way my life has turned out, be poor, and loveless, and show "colour" changes through CT scanning. This does not mean I have a diseased brain, as psychiatrists and pharmaceuticals would like me to believe. Depression is not a disease, and treated as such, shows little responsiveness to many individuals. Placebo effect and caring for one can ammeiliorate
whiff1962 2 years ago
Well I am no expert, and if you have studied it at university and after then you clearly know quite a lot.
All I can say is that in my experience antidepressants work and work well, and other treatments such as CBT or "shaking yourself out of it" or "thinking about something else" do not.
Antidepressants have given me my life back.
Can you suggest an alternative treatment for the condition that I could try out? I'm open to ideas of course.
How about Magneto cranial stimulation?
neil9327 2 years ago
That would be Transcranial stimulation. There have also been procedures with Vagus nerve stimulation(VNS), and deep brain stimulation (DBS), both done to real no effect, but neurosurgeons(vascular surgeons for VNS, as it involves the carotid sheath, a potentially risky procedure) don't balk at such procedures, as they are very lucrative. Usually the patient is left with having to remain on drugs, as these devises don't do anything clinically significant, but in limited cases of Parkinsons.
whiff1962 2 years ago
As for the "treatment" options, I dare not say anything, as I am not a doctor. I will let you decide what is best for your circumstance.
whiff1962 2 years ago
Yes Transcranial stimulation is the treatment.
You don't have to be a doctor to post a treatment option here on youtube :-) but I do think that the best option for me is to continue the antidepressants I am taking. They work well with no problems.
neil9327 2 years ago
I would be interested to know a little more about how you arrived at your diagnosis of depression. Not to come off as a nosey, busy body, but I would very much like to know how long you have been on meds, what meds you have tried, and what other treatments you have tried, as well as your present situation. PM me if you'd like.
whiff1962 2 years ago
THESE PEOPLE ARE 100% RIGHT!
3Decadesago 3 years ago
Why dont they talk about akathisia that stuff is hell. and there are many retarted mentally ill people that are going through it and cannot speak up.
foxleyleon 3 years ago
Bullshit.
AndThisJustIn 3 years ago
We're gonna need to deminstrate more persuasive measures of addressing this issue , such as violence . This will be far less incentive pump toxins into people until they blow their brain out and/or someone elses' . Have we become so accustomed to apathy and chemical dependancy that we allow these crimes to go unanwsered ? You see a drug rep , KICK HIS ASS !!!!
vandall 3 years ago
im on it n im fine
havokflicks 3 years ago
if u get on prozac or fuloxitine make sure ur not tring to get high u ediots cause there 4 real pills if where u are is tha worst place in life in ur life prozc is 4 u but u will fell tha same 4 a wile before it works when life is hell to u this can help when u fight urself on everything this is 4 u but if u dont have suvear depression or sucidle thought well both and very bad then dont go for help makes sence half tha people that took this drug wa prob like this i believe but there mind is set
Awakenedgoddes 3 years ago
ok im 19 was a druggy smoker that didnt give a fuk about me and realliey wanted a gun to blow my fuking brain out so i didnt want to go to tha doctor cause i was reaily fuked up in tha head i was weard around others it was like i could rember who i was but couldnt be me again 4 some reason life was dull i lost my sences to love trust picking up on normial things ben taking prozac4 3mounths ifuloxitine 4 3 mounths not hard pills but anyways my doses are 20mg a pill im up to 60mg a day
Awakenedgoddes 3 years ago
I'm on prozac and its the only medication that has actually worked for me. I have had adverse affects from other antidepressants but I don't think you can blame prozac for someone attempting suicide. Although there is a corellation I think it depends on the kind of person taking it. I was a total mess before it and you have to weigh up the risks.
Aneirin86 3 years ago
hah, people dont even have proof that prozac does anything at all. Even the good effects, these are just poor excuses. POOR POOR excuses.
reed00112 3 years ago
A small warning to the killers who are profiting from these drugs. Including teachers who push the drugs.
GOD will take care of YOU, YOUR CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN. The Bible says that the curse will last 3 generations. NO ONE in your family will see a HAPPY DAY.
Unless you repent and pray for God's mercy.
Amen
Metania01 3 years ago
Prozac depends in the individual. Prozac would not be available to the public if this made them do these things.
Jgerman 3 years ago
REALLY?
Metania01 3 years ago
Yes really
Jgerman 3 years ago
prozac is not theat bad try antisphicotics.
foxleyleon 3 years ago
Albval's right. The Church of scientology has also been launching a campaign to establish it's "audit" system as the best anti-depressant...and it costs 1000 dollars to listen to an hour of audits. Perhaps there are withdrawal symptoms, but all drugs are addictive, including Tylenol and other household drugs.
SaoAlberto 3 years ago
Prozac was the only med that worked for me. I took it in 1995 and it healed my OCD, depression and anxiety. I felt great when taking it. The people in this video have no proof that Prozac was the CAUSE of the reactions. Those people already had problems. Had it not been for Prozac, they would probably all be dead now.
Albval1711 3 years ago
LIAR
Metania01 3 years ago
Hi Albval I have all the same symptons as you had Can i ask how long it took you to get better on prozac. I also take prozac at the moment and have my up and down days
Jgerman 3 years ago
what the fuck!
that scares me!
JohnEveryMann 3 years ago
I'm on prozac, and if I shoot myself I give you all permission to blame me and not pfizer
murderterebi 3 years ago 3
No body is going to blame Pfiser because they don't make prozac.
Illy Lilly Does.
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
Your nickname starts with murder, murderterebi,
Does that say something about you>
Metania01 3 years ago
try crack instead.
aquafin11 3 years ago 3
GIVE ME PAXIL, its the best thing thats happened to me.
blackeconomics 3 years ago
Just hope you don't need to get off it..
It will be hell.
tarquin08 3 years ago
Effexor, Is just about as bad, A person
trusts there Dr. I wasn't told what the
side effects were or how hard it was going
to be to get off of it, Which I am now doing.
Starting to feel alive again..
tarquin08 3 years ago
HOLY SHIT EFFEXOR IS BAD. COMING OFF IT IS WORSE. it worked for a while though. Taking prozac since it has a ridiculous half life will make ur come down from effexor alot better though... which i didnt know.
shk9664 3 years ago
Wake up. Anyone taking prozac should be a consenting adult that can read a list of adverse side effects. Every case here stated "I'd been taking prozac for about a month before I.." blah blah blah(shot my wife, my boss, raped my dog, etc.--> insert sad story here.) How long does it take to realize it's not having the desired effect? Here's my favorite, "I was never suicidal before I took it!" Then what the fuck were you taking it for? Prozac is for severe depression, not cuz you dislike mondays.
ChimX420 3 years ago 7
You shouldn't take antidepressants for any reason. It's designed as a consumer product. Take nutrients if the cause is biological in nature.
prokopton 3 years ago 3
No meds work. Antidepressants doesn't only deal with depression, they treat a range of mental health disorders.
shk9664 3 years ago
waaa, they dont make you better, they HELP you get better, if you dont want it help, it aint goona work. life sucks, its no secret
truthbunny 3 years ago
My parents forced me to take this crap at the tender age of 14. I wasn't suicidal, just a little down because I had bad acne. well I took it for 3 months because they threatened to lock me up in a mental hospital if I didn't. I was not a raving maniac, I was a good son. anyway All I can say is that crap put me in a fog, or maybe it was just the fact I had no rights or that my say didn't matter, I felt like a little white lab rat. i didn't care about ANYTHING after, I felt so used and inhuman.
allstarshawk 3 years ago
also it diffenitly makes you more likely to do things that comin to your head when you would normally just shout at someone who is anoying you. your likly to strike out
gobsiter 4 years ago
That's very true gobsiter. Thanks for posting on this very relevant matter.
MannyZtotheG 4 years ago
i was clinicly psycotic for 10 years on sri medication now i take no psyc meds and iv finally stoped seeing hearing things that or not there
gobsiter 4 years ago
My son commited suicide 6 moths ago after being on Prozac for 6 weeks.
It can be a killer for some.
tonyds2112 4 years ago
I'm sorry tonyds, that's so horrible.
OliviaHadassah 4 years ago
My dad killed himself when i was 10 years old on this stuff.
psychonaut33 4 years ago
"Withdrawal from Prozac is harder than withdrawing from heroin"
Rubbish!
I've taken prozac, and withdrawn from it with no adverse symptoms at all. It helped enormously with the depression I suffered from.
If you have problems with Prozac then stop taking it. Don't try to put off others using it.
neil9327 4 years ago
you were lucky then, i had the WORST horrific side effects from stopping prozac. it completely destroyed my life. memory loss, muscle spasms, passing out, "electric shocks", episodes where i couldnt move or speak, sweating, chills, etc. and that was just the PHYSICAL symptoms. pass me heroin any day, at least they warn you withdrawal can be hell.
i wish i never started taking it, or never stopped. how long did you take it?
emptyzzzzzz 4 years ago
p.s. saying that i wish no one said it was bad for me so i stopped taking it. i also never thoughtbthese weird stories were true, but i only figured out it was prozac withdrawals because i had similar withdrawals before in the exact time frame, but this time they were more intense and i couldnt stop the withdrawal symptoms as i reacted differently to the med.
emptyzzzzzz 4 years ago
Actually I was on Lexapro, which is in the same family of SSRI antidepressant drugs as prozac. But I'm sure the same principle applies.
I'm sorry to hear about the experiences you had with Prozac. I guess that some people must have these problems. Although a friend of mine is currently coming off prozac after a very short period of time on it, and he is not suffering any withdrawl symptoms.
I assume you tapered off them, and didn't stop taking them in one go?
neil9327 4 years ago
What I was complaining about was the blanket statement that coming off prozac is as hard as coming off heroin. It should say that some people have reported this problem.
Also another thing I am concerned about is whether some people (I am not saying you are in this category) are saying they had these terrible withdrawl symptoms just to allow them to claim compensation.
neil9327 4 years ago
i was on it for 13 years, doctor took me off cold turkey. pass the heroin anyday. i've heard of people that have done both heroin and antidepressants and they say the antidepressants can be worse if you no longer have acces to it. i think that the only people that are well enough to claim compensation didnt do to badly coming of it. they survived.
emptyzzzzzz 4 years ago
cold turkey? really?
You mean you were taking prozac for 13 years and your doctor took you off them suddenly?
But didn't your doctor know or say that you must never stop taking SSRI drugs like prozac suddenly - you MUST taper the dose down gradually to allow your body to adjust to the change.
So maybe the problems you experienced were due to that sudden stop rather than the drug itself?
neil9327 4 years ago
er, yeah, thats why it says "Withdrawal from Prozac is harder than withdrawing from heroin! "
its problems from withdrawals! all the scientific literature at the time said there are NO withdrawals of prozac (of course not because its not addictive! ) the doctors start and stop you on medication all the time from what i experienced. :( anyhoo, i hear it is changes in doses that makes you go nuts, whether increase or decrease that you have to be careful with...
emptyzzzzzz 4 years ago
"Although some of the most addictive SSRI [Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor] drugs available were originally marketed as non-addicting, now many long-term users are suffering hopelessly after years of trying unsuccessfully to discontinue their medication. Some patients have lost their lives in the process of trying. "
emptyzzzzzz 4 years ago
OK so you had problems coming off prozac cold turkey. May I ask have you had problems coming off the drug by tapering down the dose. And what about the other people you mention. Is it possible that they too had been given bad advice by their doctors to also come off the drug cold turkey?
neil9327 4 years ago
I just have a hunch that there is some misinformation here that might be giving people the wrong idea about these drugs. I'm not blaming you for this.
I think there IS a big difference by tapering off them. I myself had three days not taking them (by mistake), and I got fairly dizzy. But tapering them down I had no problems at all.
neil9327 4 years ago
i did also have problems coming off of it "slowly" i have heard from people who tapered very slowly and they seem to be ok until it gets to be a zero dose.. then they end up with all sorts of problems. oddly enough, if you arent on it too long (eg months) i have known people to come off cold turkey and be FINE.. so who knows. i think people should just be more careful about what they dish out. now i hear antidepressants are a "one way street"...
emptyzzzzzz 4 years ago
Well thanks for the conversation, and good luck. I'm sure there will be a lot of new discoveries about depression and antidepressants in the near future.
Neil
neil9327 4 years ago
There is something called "drug storage." For some people, even if they've successfully tapered/weaned off their meds, the side effects can remain dormant years after they've stopped taking the drugs. The side effects are triggered under certain conditions, such as exercise, excessive stress...
prokopton 4 years ago
i just want to know what is causing my increasing memory loss, dramatically per DAY. i know its something "chemical" because of other problems not just "stress" . even in Alzheimers you dont lose your memory in 8 weeks (no i have not had any "traumatic injury" except maybe psychiatric meds..
emptyzzzzzz 4 years ago
It's important to understand that these drugs change the biochemistry of your body and brain. Essentially, they change your DNA- the essence of who you are- because they work at the molecular level. If you count the symptoms of depression and count the possible side effects, the side effects are greater than the symptoms. Basically, people create more problems for themselves by taking antidepressants.
prokopton 4 years ago
tell me about it, i didnt take them by choice at first, i certainly never asked for them.. i just wish i had known they were addictive. my body has been completely creamed by "medication"
emptyzzzzzz 4 years ago
emptyzz, one of the main ingredients in these drugs is fluoride, and believe me it does kill memory, but once you're off you will hopefully regain your memory. Try to avoid tap water that is fluoridated and fluoridated toothpaste, too... Believe it or not it's the same drug. They are drugging us through the water supply (check to see if your local municipality fluoridates).
OliviaHadassah 4 years ago
thanks, but my memory got worse from withdrawals, seriously, i think they did both times i tried to withdraw, the second time i couldnt catch it in time and after being off prozac for 6 months, i suddenly lost my memory in a space of 6 weeks, basically completely. and i gave up the shit to be healthier! i now have permanent neurological damage from trying to get off it/getting off of it because i didnt react the same trying to go on again. i would be luckier if i had commited suicide.
emptyzzzzzz 3 years ago
I'm really sorry to hear that, emptyz - If I were you I would try taking Krill Oil from mercola dot com - the brain needs the essential fatty acids.
I would also take Modifilan dot com because I believe it could help repair some of the damage, according to what I've seen it do for people with brain damage.
OliviaHadassah 3 years ago
thanks :-)
emptyzzzzzz 3 years ago
Hi i'm really intrested in what you said I use alchohol so that probably explains why i'm loosing my memory but yeah you said it took just 8 weeks that is weird it could be something to do with the meds i don't know???
luke555auusa 4 years ago
heroin you only have withdrawals for a week, prozac my withdrawals *intensified* over 7 months.... give me one week anyday...
emptyzzzzzz 3 years ago
How long were you taking it...I doubt very long if you werent shaking. Shut the fuck up moron. You obviously never went through any type of antipsychotic medication withdrawal.
Jsmooth7444 4 years ago
Don't you call me a moron!
I was taking it for 9 months, and no shaking at all. I'm shaking with anger more now at your insult than I ever was with prozac.
And what on earth are you talking about antipsychotic medication? Prozac is an antidepressant, not an antipsychotic!
neil9327 4 years ago
Thank you! Some common sense! When I was on prozac years ago, I was convinced by someone to get off it cold turkey, so I did. Things went fine until a month later of being off it. I became heavily depressed. SIMPLY BECAUSE I GOT OFF THE MEDICATION SO SUDDENLY. Prozac isn't for everyone, and that's clear. I absolutely 100% agree with you when you say not to try and scare others from using it. Thanks.
AndThisJustIn 3 years ago
All of the SSRI (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor) drugs, and other mind drugs, can cause suicides or homicides regardless of the age of the user. Psychiatrists and the FDA hide the fact that these drugs are so dangerous.
paulswebdiscounts 4 years ago
It's unfortunate that most people are not told about this by their doctors or their pharmacists when they take these harmful pills.
prokopton 4 years ago