Jill Trenary (USA) - 1988 Calgary, Ladies' Short Program

[mlc2005]

I agree, that combo was excellent.. maybe a .1 deduction. Second best combo in the competition, after Ito of course.

[mjcamck71]

Hello. Having attended 7 Nationals, I clearly recall Nicole a doing single axel/double Salchhow combination. I must have missed it when she added a revolution. Carlo Fassi had undisguised high hopes for Nicole who I recall winning the Novice bronze medal and being, well, too cute for words. Her recent legal troubles are unfortunate. In the meantime, since it reached a point where the combination was expected by Jill, I still think it should be named after her. Just my two cents. Thank You.

[3Axel1996]

@mjcamck71 She added the extra revolution for Worlds. She landed the combination in the Qualifying Round but fell on it in the actual Free Skate.

[mjcamck71]

@3Axel1996 - Hello. Information appreciated. That would explain why I don't remember Nicole completing the move. Since Jill was performing this combination in the late 80's, it would still appear, she was the First (correct?)  and, therefore, deserves having the move named after her. Just a thought. Thank you.

[mjcamck71]

I agree with skaterdude1962. On their own, flips & loops are tricky jumps. To do them in combination was VERY GUTSY which Jill did very well, even if not perfect. And, speaking of combinations, when is "THE TRENARY TRIPLE" going to go Officially in the books as being named after Jill? I've never seen anyone else even attempt this extremely difficult move (only a single axel, double). Jill deserves this honor.

[3Axel1996]

@mjcamck71 If you're talking about her trademark one-foot Axel - triple Salchow combination, Nicole Bobek did the same combination in the 1994-95 season (prior to that she worked on a one-foot Axel - double Salchow combination). Probably a by-product of the two being coached by the great Carlo Fassi.

[skaterdude1962]

It was the most difficult combination @ this Olympics. Jill did deserve higher marks and should have been above Manely who's combination was shakier than Jill's.

[3Axel1996]

@skaterdude1962 IMO, I actually though Midori Ito's double loop-triple loop was the most difficult combination.

[spartyutube]

Their double axels were all huge in the 80's!

[proxy22]

she touched down before taking off... thats not a true loop take-off.... and seeing as how that was the required jump in the combination no wonder they took a deduction....

[metsdudenj]

@proxy22 I am not sure if she touched down, but the foot did kinda cheat the take off a little and it seemed to have an almost salchow take off as opposed to the loop take off, it was off center and somewhat shaky. It deserved a ,2 deduction, but her base mark for techincal should have been 5.7 to start off given the difficulty

[faeryquene]

She was my favorite pre-Oksana and Sasha. :)

[faeryquene]

Oksana Baiul has said Jill was her idol. :)

[premierrules]

I didn't think the combo was that messy? Its an incredibly difficult combination putting a double loop on the end of a triple flip and its rare. I think she was under marked here asthe vibrancy and vitality of the performance was great.

[3Axel1996]

Pre-1989, judges would scrutinize every move and a deduction would be made if a landing was not done perfectly. She was a little off in the landing of the flip that made the entry into the double loop a little off. That was enough to garner a 0.2 deduction. Her final combination spin also traveled a bit and should have incurred a 0.1 deduction.